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petegz28
07-11-2009, 11:57 AM
July 11 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his $787 billion stimulus bill “has worked as intended” as he pushed back against Republican criticism that his recovery program has failed to rescue the economy.

“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address. “It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and business.”

Obama spoke after stocks fell for a fourth week on concern that an economic recovery will be delayed. A government report last week showed that employers cut 467,000 jobs in June and the unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, the highest since 1983.

The weakening labor market is taking a toll on Obama’s popularity. A survey by Hamden, Connecticut-based Quinnipiac University released July 7 showed 49 percent of Ohio voters approved of Obama’s job performance, down from 62 percent in a May 6 poll. The disapproval figure for Obama was 44 percent, up from 31 percent in May.

Obama, in his speech, said the stimulus program is helping state governments save jobs. Were it not for the program, the president said, “state deficits would be nearly twice as large as they are now, resulting in tens of thousands of additional layoffs -- layoffs that would affect police officers, teachers, and firefighters.”

Republican Response

In the weekly Republican response, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia said the stimulus bill was “full of pork- barrel spending, government waste and massive borrowing cleverly called ‘stimulus.’”

“The plain truth is that President Obama’s economic decisions have not produced jobs, have not produced prosperity, and have not worked,” Cantor said.

He said the Republicans want reductions in tax rates that he said would help middle-class families.

In asking for public patience, Obama said the recovery act “wasn’t designed to restore the economy to full health on its own, but to provide the boost necessary to stop the free fall.”

Enacted in February, the bill “was designed to spur demand and get people spending again and cushion those who had borne the brunt of the crisis,” the president said.

Obama said the measure “was not designed to work in four months -- it was designed to work over two years.”

The spending plan will “accelerate greatly” through the summer and autumn, creating “thousands more infrastructure projects” that will lead to additional jobs, he said.

‘Right Direction’

“We’re moving in the right direction,” Obama said. “We must let it work the way it’s supposed to, with the understanding that in any recession, unemployment tends to recover more slowly than other measures of economic activity.”

The Standard & Poor’s 500 dropped 1.9 percent this week to 879.13, the lowest level since May 1. The measure has now retreated 7.1 percent since June 12. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 134.22 points, or 1.6 percent, to 8,146.52.

Sears Holdings Corp., the largest U.S. department-store chain based in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, lost 8.2 percent after an index of consumer confidence dropped more than forecast. Exxon Mobil Corp., the world’s biggest oil company based in Irving, Texas, slid 4.9 percent as crude tumbled on concern the recession will keep sapping demand.

In a Bloomberg interview last month, the president said he expected unemployment rates to exceed 10 percent.

In his radio address, Obama also renewed his commitment to comprehensive health-care legislation that expands insurance coverage while cutting costs. He also vowed to address long-term entitlement overhaul.

Earlier this week, Vice President Joe Biden also defended the Obama administration’s efforts to rebuild America’s economy, while expressing frustration with those who say progress is too slow.

“Remember, we’re only 140 days into this deal,” Biden said in a speech in Cincinnati. “It’s supposed to take 18 months.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Edwin Chen in Washington at Echen32@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: July 11, 2009 12:18 EDT
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a0StZd9y2rCY



Working as intended, heh? What utter bullshit. Last time I checked 9.5 is higher than 8. 8 being the % of unemployed he said the Stimulus Bill was suppsed to cap.

But he said it is working therefore it must be working.......nevermind last week him and his Admin said they misread the economy.

This guy flip-flops more than John Kerry

petegz28
07-11-2009, 12:02 PM
Obama said the measure “was not designed to work in four months -- it was designed to work over two years.”

Yet he was just talking about the need for a 2nd Stimulus earlier this week?????


OOOKKK , Barry. Methinks you don't have a fucking clue.

Stewie
07-11-2009, 12:08 PM
“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address.

I'm pretty sure giving people extended unemployment and health insurance is juxtaposed to a recovery. Maybe I'm just dumb.

petegz28
07-11-2009, 12:11 PM
“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address.

I'm pretty sure giving people extended unemployment and health insurance is juxtaposed to a recovery. Maybe I'm just dumb.

Sounds to me like once again we have a Democratic Admin governing via poll #'s and his crew is scrambling big time to spin whatever excuse they can in the face of falling poll #'s.

KILLER_CLOWN
07-11-2009, 12:13 PM
Sounds to me like once again we have a Democratic Admin governing via poll #'s and his crew is scrambling big time to spin whatever excuse they can in the face of falling poll #'s.

and if that doesn't work we'll just have us another false flag that will get all the people behind our beloved king.

petegz28
07-11-2009, 12:19 PM
and if that doesn't work we'll just have us another false flag that will get all the people behind our beloved king.

And the sheep will fall in line...

ROFL

Calcountry
07-11-2009, 12:23 PM
And the sheep will fall in line...

ROFLSheep get slaughtered.

KC Dan
07-11-2009, 12:40 PM
My next negihbor that voted for Obama and has been unemployed for 5 months would disagree with Obama...He attended a July 4th TEA party as well.

chiefforlife
07-11-2009, 12:51 PM
Yet he was just talking about the need for a 2nd Stimulus earlier this week?????


OOOKKK , Barry. Methinks you don't have a fucking clue.

Obama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
President dismisses GOP complaints, defends plan 'to work over two years’

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31862083/ns/us_news/

petegz28
07-11-2009, 01:01 PM
Obama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
President dismisses GOP complaints, defends plan 'to work over two years’

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31862083/ns/us_news/

Yea..this was after he said he wouldn't take a 2nd Stimulus off the table earlier this week....


As stated...he saw the poll #'s on a 2nd stimulus and now is "rejecting" it........

After Biden said they misread the economy...

And after unemployment has gone well above the 8% where Obama swore the Stimulus would cap it....

Stewie
07-11-2009, 01:05 PM
Obama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
President dismisses GOP complaints, defends plan 'to work over two years’

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31862083/ns/us_news/

That's his story today. He'll do a 180 within two months. It's the plan.

chiefforlife
07-11-2009, 01:06 PM
The poll #'s on the first stimulus werent very good either. I doubt the polls have anything to do with his decision.

petegz28
07-11-2009, 01:08 PM
The poll #'s on the first stimulus werent very good either. I doubt the polls have anything to do with his decision.

We will agree to disagree......his poll #'s are the worst they have been and are falling quickly...almost 10% over the last few weeks

BigRedChief
07-11-2009, 01:12 PM
That's his story today. He'll do a 180 within two months. It's the plan.Better not. No more friggin bailouts

KC Dan
07-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Better not. No more friggin bailouts
Yeah, right...
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=210185

chiefzilla1501
07-11-2009, 01:34 PM
The stimulus plan won't work as intended, because it revolves around forking over tons of money over to states, who have proven time and time again that they have no idea how to use money. They are trying to create jobs artificially by creating projects that will create jobs for the sake of creating jobs. What I don't understand is why that money isn't instead being used to benefit small businesses that have the opportunity to grow and create more jobs.

KC Dan
07-11-2009, 01:48 PM
They are trying to create jobs artificially by creating projects that will create jobs for the sake of creating jobs. What I don't understand is why that money isn't instead being used to benefit small businesses that have the opportunity to grow and create more jobs.No, they are trying to spend money where they can get the most votes. Their use of money has really nothing to do with jobs. It never has and never will. Politicians spend money so they can say "look what i did while in office serving you! Now, give me your vote". If politicians really wanted to create jobs, they would give incentives to small business be it by tax breaks or other means. Businesses create jobs, politicians create more gov't and gov't waste. I can't believe the populace is so ignorant. Yes, I can.......

Calcountry
07-11-2009, 02:09 PM
No, they are trying to spend money where they can get the most votes. Their use of money has really nothing to do with jobs. It never has and never will. Politicians spend money so they can say "look what i did while in office serving you! Now, give me your vote". If politicians really wanted to create jobs, they would give incentives to small business be it by tax breaks or other means. Businesses create jobs, politicians create more gov't and gov't waste. I can't believe the populace is so ignorant. Yes, I can.......All is well, for I have come to bring you hope.

donkhater
07-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Supposed to take two years to implement? BULLS$%T

One question...

If all along it was intended to be implemented over 2 years, why the haste in which it was voted on? You know, the bill NO ONE READ!!!!

I call BS on this pile of smelly rhetoric. Someone show me one article published leading up to the stimulus spending vote that says it was intended to be slowly dispersed. I can't remember any talk of this. Quite the contrary, it was billed as immediate help to shock the economy into recovery.

Politicians are a F&&&ing joke.

KC Dan
07-11-2009, 02:11 PM
All is well, for I have come to bring you hope.I don't need his F'n hope. I make my own way through hard work and sacrifice. I am an American capitalist

donkhater
07-11-2009, 02:15 PM
ALSO...

If it takes that long to disperse the money, why all the talk about a second stimulus? Wouldn't one think that if the intention was a 2 year dispersement, you'd give it time to let it work?

No, this is just more double talk along the same vein as 'jobs created or saved'. They set themselves up to never be second guessed. Bunch of liars.

Calcountry
07-11-2009, 02:23 PM
Yet he was just talking about the need for a 2nd Stimulus earlier this week?????


OOOKKK , Barry. Methinks you don't have a ****ing clue.I give you, the Obama reelection theme song: Living on a prayer.

Ohhh, we're half way there, ohhhoohh! living on a prayer, take my hand, we'll make it I SWEAR!1.

--

reposted for those of you who may have missed it.

petegz28
07-11-2009, 02:28 PM
I give you, the Obama reelection theme song: Living on a prayer.

Ohhh, we're half way there, ohhhoohh! living on a prayer, take my hand, we'll make it I SWEAR!1.

--

reposted for those of you who may have missed it.

LMAO

KILLER_CLOWN
07-11-2009, 03:57 PM
The stimulus plan won't work as intended, because it revolves around forking over tons of money over to states, who have proven time and time again that they have no idea how to use money. They are trying to create jobs artificially by creating projects that will create jobs for the sake of creating jobs. What I don't understand is why that money isn't instead being used to benefit small businesses that have the opportunity to grow and create more jobs.

States? no no the Banks and Goldman Sachs. We need to audit the fed and find out where all the money went because it sure isn't stimulating anything worthwhile.

chiefzilla1501
07-11-2009, 04:03 PM
No, they are trying to spend money where they can get the most votes. Their use of money has really nothing to do with jobs. It never has and never will. Politicians spend money so they can say "look what i did while in office serving you! Now, give me your vote". If politicians really wanted to create jobs, they would give incentives to small business be it by tax breaks or other means. Businesses create jobs, politicians create more gov't and gov't waste. I can't believe the populace is so ignorant. Yes, I can.......

Absolutely. It really pisses me off. Not that some of the jobs that will be created aren't noble work, but they're mostly contract jobs--they're not going to do anything to create jobs. All they will do is create temporary jobs until the economy picks up. And to fund it, they're squeezing every last penny out of a lot of productive businesses.

I'm just thoroughly disappointed b/c Obama was one of the first candidates in a long time to preach a pretty moderate agenda in his campaign. But he's full of shit. It's amazing how his rhetoric about cost cutting in the health care industry suddenly turned into a socialistic overhaul of the entire system.

Saul Good
07-11-2009, 04:25 PM
The poll #'s on the first stimulus werent very good either

Link?

patteeu
07-12-2009, 07:32 AM
Obama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
President dismisses GOP complaints, defends plan 'to work over two years’

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31862083/ns/us_news/

When the economy recovers, as it inevitably will with or without government help, are you going to buy the line that Obama made it happen?

Does chicken soup really cure the common cold if you just give it enough time?

blaise
07-12-2009, 07:36 AM
"The stimulus plan is working fantastically!"

-jAZ

HonestChieffan
07-12-2009, 07:38 AM
I don't need his F'n hope. I make my own way through hard work and sacrifice. I am an American capitalist

You devil. The party will seek you out and destroy you. You must be made average. Assimilate or be taken.

Saul Good
07-12-2009, 08:51 AM
When the economy recovers, as it inevitably will with or without government help, are you going to buy the line that Obama made it happen?

Does chicken soup really cure the common cold if you just give it enough time?

In about 2-3 years, you will see the full effects of the stimulus plan in ways you never even imagined. For example, I predict that my son will be taller. I also predict that the Chiefs will win more than 2 games. When these things come to pass, what are all of you doubters going to say about the stimulus?

RedNeckRaider
07-12-2009, 09:45 AM
In about 2-3 years, you will see the full effects of the stimulus plan in ways you never even imagined. For example, I predict that my son will be taller. I also predict that the Chiefs will win more than 2 games. When these things come to pass, what are all of you doubters going to say about the stimulus?

This will just add to my disappointment of Obama

stevieray
07-12-2009, 12:13 PM
Calm down....it takes time to bankrupt the Country under the guise of saving it from itself.

petegz28
07-12-2009, 12:21 PM
My brother in law and father in law both voted for Obama and both said at breakfast this morning they are more than sorry they did.

patteeu
07-12-2009, 12:35 PM
In about 2-3 years, you will see the full effects of the stimulus plan in ways you never even imagined. For example, I predict that my son will be taller. I also predict that the Chiefs will win more than 2 games. When these things come to pass, what are all of you doubters going to say about the stimulus?

LMAO

SHTSPRAYER
07-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Calm down....it takes time to bankrupt the Country under the guise of saving it from itself.

Sad but true.

B.O. is a jackass.

BucEyedPea
07-12-2009, 04:15 PM
We're already bankrupt or we wouldn't need to print all that money that got printed last fall.

King_Chief_Fan
07-12-2009, 04:18 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a0StZd9y2rCY



Working as intended, heh? What utter bullshit. Last time I checked 9.5 is higher than 8. 8 being the % of unemployed he said the Stimulus Bill was suppsed to cap.

But he said it is working therefore it must be working.......nevermind last week him and his Admin said they misread the economy.

This guy flip-flops more than John Kerry

it is working as intended. laid off neighbor (wife doesn't work either) just bought a new car...how does that work?

Saul Good
07-12-2009, 04:52 PM
it is working as intended. laid off neighbor (wife doesn't work either) just bought a new car...how does that work?

Cash for clunkers, baby.

KcFanInGA
07-14-2009, 12:01 PM
I heard they were hiring for the frisbee golf course in the stimulus package. That package has dick cheese.