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Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:11 PM
You are really creepy sometimes hth

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:14 PM
:spock:

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:14 PM
Thank you

Bill Parcells
07-16-2009, 10:14 PM
http://i8.tinypic.com/5yrh11v.gif

FAX
07-16-2009, 10:14 PM
Hold The Horseradish?

FAX

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:17 PM
YEEEEEEAAAHHHH!

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1892014

Thig Lyfe
07-16-2009, 10:17 PM
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FAX
07-16-2009, 10:20 PM
Hiking Through Hell?

FAX

Pablo
07-16-2009, 10:20 PM
*masturbates to Howard the Duck sig*

Bill Parcells
07-16-2009, 10:20 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Blazeland/Motivational%20Posters/maxieninja.jpg

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:24 PM
:spock:I posted a photo of myself elsewhere. This naturally led some guy to the conclusion that, not only had I taken naughty photos of my boobs, but that I would be eager to share them with him.

fuck is wrong with y'all

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:27 PM
I posted a photo of myself elsewhere. This naturally led some guy to the conclusion that, not only had I taken naughty photos of my boobs, but that I would be eager to share them with him.

fuck is wrong with y'all

Guys like tits.

Actually, guys LOVE tits.

Left tit, left tit, right tit, right. Tits in the morning, tits in the night. How many tits can I see?

Tits, tits, tits, tits, tits!

Just Passin' By
07-16-2009, 10:28 PM
Guys like tits.

Actually, guys LOVE tits.

Left tit, left tit, right tit, right. Tits in the morning, tits in the night. How many tits can I see?

Tits, tits, tits, tits, tits!

^Tits

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:28 PM
I posted a photo of myself elsewhere. This naturally led some guy to the conclusion that, not only had I taken naughty photos of my boobs, but that I would be eager to share them with him.

fuck is wrong with y'all

:shake:

that IS pretty sad, but can you really expect much else from the intrawebz? I mean, let's be honest. you're a veteran internet user. this ain't usenet. have you really, having seen the seedy underbelly of the internet (much like the seedy underbelly of reno, there IS a grind room and leather pony), come to expect much else?

the internet IS for porn, after all.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:31 PM
Guys like tits.

Actually, guys LOVE tits.

Left tit, left tit, right tit, right. Tits in the morning, tits in the night. How many tits can I see?

Tits, tits, tits, tits, tits!

yep. I married a lovely set of 42 dd's.

her personality is nice too :drool::thumb::spock::doh!:

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:31 PM
and in the spirit of george carlin,

AND NOW, WE PRESENT YOU WITH TATER TITS! betcha can't eat just ONE?!!

FAX
07-16-2009, 10:33 PM
That is a real good song about tits, Mr. DaneMcCloud. Real good.

Meanwhile, back to the problem at hand ...

Horny Tittah Humpers?

FAX

Bill Parcells
07-16-2009, 10:34 PM
Guys like tits.

Actually, guys LOVE tits.

Left tit, left tit, right tit, right. Tits in the morning, tits in the night. How many tits can I see?

Tits, tits, tits, tits, tits!

Do you know that you are legendary now? :D

pr_capone
07-16-2009, 10:35 PM
You are really creepy sometimes hth

Wha?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2115/manbra.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/manbra.jpg/)

Mr. Kotter
07-16-2009, 10:35 PM
Eh, you know you love us.

"Show us your tits, UP."

:)

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:35 PM
Wha?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2115/manbra.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/manbra.jpg/)

ROFL

:shake:

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:36 PM
yep. I married a lovely set of 42 dd's.

her personality is nice too :drool::thumb::spock::doh!:

You lost me at 42DD

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:36 PM
I'm just disturbed to hear Ultra Peanut talking about her tits.

I still view UP's persona as male.

It's just very weird.

But if she's happy, more power to her.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:36 PM
Do you know that you are legendary now? :D

No, I wasn't aware.

When did this happen?

FAX
07-16-2009, 10:37 PM
Do people who go spontaneously blind qualify for disability?

FAX

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:38 PM
You lost me at 42DD

ditto. she wonders sometimes why I end up with a glazed look on my face and eyes on the chestal area.

speaking of which, don't you owe me a few michael jackson stories via pm?

FAX
07-16-2009, 10:39 PM
No, I wasn't aware.

When did this happen?

It was around that time, Mr. DaneMcCloud, you know ... when you let one rip and caused the Big Bang.

FAX

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:39 PM
42DD is too big.

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
ditto. she wonders sometimes why I end up with a glazed look on my face and eyes on the chestal area.

speaking of which, don't you owe me a few michael jackson stories via pm?

Yes, I do. As soon as I get a few things wrapped up here and before my folks come in next week (and stay for a week!), I'll get them over to you.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
42DD is too big.

says the virgin.

let's just say there are things to do with em' other than just look and be mesmerized by bouncy action.

Bill Parcells
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
Wha?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2115/manbra.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/manbra.jpg/)

ROFL

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
42DD is too big.

Wrong

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:41 PM
Yes, I do. As soon as I get a few things wrapped up here and before my folks come in next week (and stay for a week!), I'll get them over to you.

no sweat. just a thought that popped into my head, and being an impulsive guy on the internet, I spoke my mind.

Bill Parcells
07-16-2009, 10:41 PM
No, I wasn't aware.

When did this happen?

You didnt see that thread I made?


ROFL

DaneMcCloud
07-16-2009, 10:41 PM
You didnt see that thread I made?


ROFL

Oh no, I'll check it out.

Thanks for the heads up!

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:44 PM
:shake:

that IS pretty sad, but can you really expect much else from the intrawebz? I mean, let's be honest. you're a veteran internet user. this ain't usenet. have you really, having seen the seedy underbelly of the internet (much like the seedy underbelly of reno, there IS a grind room and leather pony), come to expect much else?

the internet IS for porn, after all.Oh, it's not surprising at all. Well, maybe a little surprising, considering I've never been the, um, target before.

Mostly, it was fucking hilarious. And creepy.

I'm just disturbed to hear Ultra Peanut talking about her tits.Me, too!

Isn't it amazing? I mean, seriously, the ways in which both of us have changed, essentially from the same basic starting point... pretty mindblowing.

nstygma
07-16-2009, 10:47 PM
oh super psi, donot being sillys

Pablo
07-16-2009, 10:48 PM
You're not the only one that's fallen victim to sexual suggestions on da intrawebzish.

I once had a guy send me a pic of his flaccid penis on XBox Live because I made the grave mistake of letting my g/f talk on my headset while playing Gears.

Bowser
07-16-2009, 10:48 PM
I just want to be part of this epic thread. So, hi.

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:49 PM
says the virgin.

let's just say there are things to do with em' other than just look and be mesmerized by bouncy action.

1. I'm not a virgin.

2. I had some 34DDs in my hands not too long ago. Anything bigger is waaay too big. I prefer smaller boobs.

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:50 PM
You're not the only one that's fallen victim to sexual suggestions on da intrawebzish.

I once had a guy send me a pic of his flaccid penis on XBox Live because I made the grave mistake of letting my g/f talk on my headset while playing Gears.Didja keep it and cherish it forever?

Pablo
07-16-2009, 10:50 PM
1. I'm not a virgin.

2. I had some 34DDs in my hands not too long ago. Anything bigger is waaay too big. I prefer smaller boobs.You fail at preferring boobs.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:50 PM
Oh, it's not surprising at all. Well, maybe a little surprising, considering I've never been the, um, target before.

Mostly, it was fucking hilarious. And creepy.

Me, too!

Isn't it amazing? I mean, seriously, the ways in which both of us have changed, essentially from the same basic starting point... pretty mindblowing.

sooooo. enough talk. show us your bewbs?

Bowser
07-16-2009, 10:51 PM
42DD is too big.

Negative. You just have a lack of imagination in this regard.

Pablo
07-16-2009, 10:51 PM
Didja keep it and cherish it forever?No.

I did however catch some of my friends off guard, and said I was gonna show them a pic of some awesome tits...then BAM!! Limp dick and a Miami Dolphins t-shirt.

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:52 PM
Isn't it amazing? I mean, seriously, the ways in which both of us have changed, essentially from the same basic starting point... pretty mindblowing.

No, I will not fuck you.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:52 PM
1. I'm not a virgin.

2. I had some 34DDs in my hands not too long ago. Anything bigger is waaay too big. I prefer smaller boobs.

anything with a dd cup ain't small. and there's nothing wrong with small tittahs, but it's damned awesome when they're big AND loaded with nerve endings. erogenous zone that's just a grope away? instant win.

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:53 PM
You fail at preferring boobs.

Whatever dude. I also like my women petite. That curvy cougar was a workout. I want someone I can throw around.

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:53 PM
sooooo. enough talk. show us your bewbs? Not. Helping. With the creepy.

No, I will not fuck you.Same! hi5!

Bowser
07-16-2009, 10:53 PM
TITTIES ALL DAY LONG!!

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:54 PM
Not. Helping. With the creepy.

Same! hi5!

ROFL

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 10:54 PM
WOO HOO!
GERSTMANN!

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 10:54 PM
anything with a dd cup ain't small. and there's nothing wrong with small tittahs, but it's damned awesome when they're big AND loaded with nerve endings. erogenous zone that's just a grope away? instant win.

Oh, I know. I'm saying even the 34s were too big. Depending on the size of the girl, I'm fine with almost ANY set of smaller tits.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:56 PM
Oh, I know. I'm saying even the 34s were too big. Depending on the size of the girl, I'm fine with almost ANY set of smaller tits.

eh, I view em' as just another ride to play on in the playground of poon. I have a short attention span, and boobs help me to focus. :harumph:

Mr. Flopnuts
07-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Mr. Flopnuts can't resist a good titty thread. Someone should do a Hello Kitty spinoff. Care to guess my idea?

Bowser
07-16-2009, 10:57 PM
Not. Helping. With the creepy.

Same! hi5!

I bet Psicosis would have shown her boooobs by now.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 10:57 PM
WOO HOO!
GERSTMANN!

wait: are said breasticles HO scale?

Bowser
07-16-2009, 11:05 PM
ANNNNND Ebola kills thread with his desire to see the newly minted Ultra Psi Boobs.

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 11:07 PM
wait: are said breasticles HO scale?(dont break they are my sons)

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 11:16 PM
ANNNNND Ebola kills thread with his desire to see the newly minted Ultra Psi Boobs.

hey, only if it's a superboob. I said I'd go in halfsies on the superboob.

Reaper16
07-16-2009, 11:20 PM
In unrelated news, I used the cursive alphabet as an icebreaker with this girl at the KC Flying Saucer last night and got a number and a pint of Boulevard Tank 7 Saison for my efforts.

I don't need to be creepy; I've got game, yo.

88TG88
07-16-2009, 11:25 PM
In unrelated news, I used the cursive alphabet as an icebreaker with this girl at the KC Flying Saucer last night and got a number and a pint of Boulevard Tank 7 Saison for my efforts.

I don't need to be creepy; I've got game, yo.

explain

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 11:27 PM
explain

a lot of panties drop when you slide into the joint and drop 4.99 on a two piece grilled chicken box. that's all I'm sayin'

Douche Baggins
07-16-2009, 11:28 PM
Game is retarded. She was attracted to your looks and happy that you talked to her. That's all.

Ari Chi3fs
07-16-2009, 11:28 PM
I'm just disturbed to hear Ultra Peanut talking about her tits.

I still view UP's persona as male.

It's just very weird.

But if she's happy, more power to her.

This.

I thought he lost weight and became content with himself. And he/she is calling us "guys" on the internet "weird".

Reaper16
07-16-2009, 11:29 PM
explain
There were two girls (they ended up being sisters) at the booth behind me. The people I was with and I were trying to remember how to write the cursive alphabet, especially the capitals. None of us could remember the full capital cursive alphabet. So I just up and asked the women behind me if they could write out the cursive alphabet. I parlayed that random bit into conversation, a free round, and a phone number.

Bowser
07-16-2009, 11:29 PM
a lot of panties drop when you slide into the joint and drop 4.99 on a two piece grilled chicken box. that's all I'm sayin'

Go Chicken Go FTMFW

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 11:38 PM
This.

I thought he lost weight and became content with himself. Boy, did you read that wrong!

The weight loss was kind of a test run for transitioning, though the gap between losing weight and transitioning was way bigger than I wanted. I was pretty much still generally miserable until, like, April. And now things are kind of amazing and I actually look forward to life. Woop woop.

And he/she is calling us "guys" on the internet "weird".I can't imagine why.

Ebolapox
07-16-2009, 11:40 PM
in the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey.

Ari Chi3fs
07-16-2009, 11:42 PM
Boy, did you read that wrong!

The weight loss was kind of a test run for transitioning, though the gap between losing weight and transitioning was way bigger than I wanted. I was pretty much still generally miserable until, like, April. And now things are kind of amazing and I actually look forward to life. Woop woop.

I can't imagine why.

Well, good luck.

Do you have a new name you go by? Sheila or something? And if you change your name... how will all of your old grade school, junior high & high school friends find you on Facebook?

Ultra Peanut
07-16-2009, 11:46 PM
Well, good luck.Know what's really, really, really cool? Sometimes, whether I'm at the store or washing dishes or just sitting down watching TV, a stray thought will hit me. That stray thought is the realization that I am currently in the middle of doing THE MOST AMAZING THING I'VE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE, at that very moment.

Do you have a new name you go by? Sheila or something? And if you change your name... how will all of your old grade school, junior high & high school friends find you on Facebook?I didn't have a facebook. Well, I mean, I had one, but it was blank and I didn't add anybody or anything. The first time I ever uploaded a photo of myself to the internet was a month ago.

And yes, my name is the best of names, though it's surprisingly not the name I'd expected to have from the time I was 11 years old (it was the OTHER name I'd been considering at the time, ha). It's most assuredly not Sheila, though.

Reaper16
07-16-2009, 11:51 PM
Know what's really, really, really cool? Sometimes, whether I'm at the store or washing dishes or just sitting down watching TV, a stray thought will hit me. That stray thought is the realization that I am currently in the middle of doing THE MOST AMAZING THING I'VE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE, at that very moment.

Real perspective on a football board? Well, I'll be a _________ (noun, possessive) __________ (noun)

Ari Chi3fs
07-16-2009, 11:54 PM
Serious question... what was/is the parents take on the whole thing...

See, I have a son... what if one day he does this... How did they react? Are they supportive? Do they call you by your new "bestest of best names"?

Ultra Peanut
07-17-2009, 12:01 AM
They, um... it's weird, because from that moment four years ago when I was on the verge of suicide, broke down, and told my mom, she's been 100% supportive. My dad was initially supportive, but then he expressed reservations and I was still in a really, really awful place, so we ended up not speaking about it for, oh, three and a half years.

At which point I found out via my mom that he said he'd be willing to introduce me to people as his daughter, and I laughed in her face in shock. We've since talked about it, and his stance is basically that he's my dad and wanting me to be happy is his job. It's staggering how much of a boost that provided, especially considering how fine I was with writing him off for so long. I wrote him a really long, gushing letter on Father's Day.

So now my mom and I tease each other about girly stuff I missed out on for a couple of decades, and I feel closer to my dad than I've felt since I was a kid. I am very, very lucky.

I thought I wasn't capable of doing this. I thought I was alone. I thought I was a special kind of screwed that few other people could ever imagine. And it was all bullshit. I wasn't a strong, confident person before all of this, but I am now. If anyone else out there on the information superhighway is dealing with this, seriously, just fucking address it and surprise yourself.

Also, I've been kind of (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5826640&#post5826640) droppin' (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5874664#post5874664) hints (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5849556#post5849556), y'know (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5895117#post5895117). WHY HAVE YOU NOT BEEN PROPERLY KEEPING UP WITH THE MINUTIAE OF MY LIFE?

BigRock
07-17-2009, 12:02 AM
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Mecca
07-17-2009, 12:18 AM
I posted a photo of myself elsewhere. This naturally led some guy to the conclusion that, not only had I taken naughty photos of my boobs, but that I would be eager to share them with him.

fuck is wrong with y'all

Is it wrong that this post made me interested to see the picture that caused this?

listopencil
07-17-2009, 12:22 AM
hope that helps

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2009, 12:26 AM
They, um... it's weird, because from that moment four years ago when I was on the verge of suicide, broke down, and told my mom, she's been 100% supportive. My dad was initially supportive, but then he expressed reservations and I was still in a really, really awful place, so we ended up not speaking about it for, oh, three and a half years.

At which point I found out via my mom that he said he'd be willing to introduce me to people as his daughter, and I laughed in her face in shock. We've since talked about it, and his stance is basically that he's my dad and wanting me to be happy is his job. It's staggering how much of a boost that provided, especially considering how fine I was with writing him off for so long. I wrote him a really long, gushing letter on Father's Day.

So now my mom and I tease each other about girly stuff I missed out on for a couple of decades, and I feel closer to my dad than I've felt since I was a kid. I am very, very lucky.

I thought I wasn't capable of doing this. I thought I was alone. I thought I was a special kind of screwed that few other people could ever imagine. And it was all bullshit. I wasn't a strong, confident person before all of this, but I am now. If anyone else out there on the information superhighway is dealing with this, seriously, just fucking address it and surprise yourself.

Also, I've been kind of (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5826640&#post5826640) droppin' (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5874664#post5874664) hints (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5849556#post5849556), y'know (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5895117#post5895117). WHY HAVE YOU NOT BEEN PROPERLY KEEPING UP WITH THE MINUTIAE OF MY LIFE?

Ah, things are working out like they should. There's no reason for bitterness.

And you should get used to the phrases "Show us your tits!" or "Skin to Win!".

Regardless of what you might think, those are happy phrases.

:D

Mecca
07-17-2009, 12:29 AM
I actually know what UP's name is because I remember from awhile back but that isn't my information to share.

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2009, 12:31 AM
I actually know what UP's name is because I remember from awhile back but that isn't my information to share.

Who cares what her name actually is?

I just want her to be happy.

Hopefully, the universe will comply.

FAX
07-17-2009, 12:32 AM
hope that helps

Ah. Of course.

I knew it couldn't be Hippo Twat Hamburgers, but that was going to be my next guess.

FAX

Rausch
07-17-2009, 12:41 AM
Who cares what her name actually is?

I just want her to be happy.

Hopefully, the universe will comply.

UP knew what she wanted, was decisive, and didn't waiver.

Fucking whatever, no way in hell that's a "woman at heart..."

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2009, 12:50 AM
UP knew what she wanted, was decisive, and didn't waiver.

Fucking whatever, no way in hell that's a "woman at heart..."

If you truly think that, then come out to LA and spend a week with me.

I think you'll leave with a different tune.

With all due respect, I find it odd that people deal with physical anomalies and subsequent birth defects (missing arms, legs, blindness, hearing loss, retardation, etc.) but can't or won't believe that chromosomes are misplaced and men are born as women and vice versa.

That type of thinking doesn't make sense to me.

Birth defects aren't limited to physical attributes. I'm not saying that UP is "defective", I'm just stating that if she believes she wasn't born "correctly", who are we to argue?

Reaper16
07-17-2009, 01:00 AM
If you truly think that, then come out to LA and spend a week with me.

I think you'll leave with a different tune.

With all due respect, I find it odd that people deal with physical anomalies and subsequent birth defects (missing arms, legs, blindness, hearing loss, retardation, etc.) but can't or won't believe that chromosomes are misplaced and men are born as women and vice versa.

That type of thinking doesn't make sense to me.

Birth defects aren't limited to physical attributes. I'm not saying that UP is "defective", I'm just stating that if she believes she wasn't born "correctly", who are we to argue?

Us middle-America types aren't often privy to that Caaaaaaaaaalifornia Loooove. /Roger Troutman

Rausch
07-17-2009, 01:03 AM
If you truly think that, then come out to LA and spend a week with me.

I think you'll leave with a different tune.

I don't think you could keep up with me...:evil:

If UP is a woman, decisive, and knows what she wants then she's the only one on the planet.

And your sarcasm meter's broken.

DaneMcCloud
07-17-2009, 01:04 AM
I don't think you could keep up with me...:evil:

If UP is a woman, decisive, and knows what she wants then she's the only one on the planet.

And your sarcasm meter's broken.

Dammit! I asked DaFace to fix it a million times!

Goldmember
07-17-2009, 02:20 AM
http://i8.tinypic.com/5yrh11v.gif

Now that's fucking funny shit right there!

JohnnyV13
07-17-2009, 02:39 AM
Next thing you know, GC will be giving Kama Sutra seminars and UP will be a fashion expert. But the Chiefs still won't have a playoff win.

Katipan
07-17-2009, 06:11 AM
Also guys in co-ed bathrooms, librarys, Hannah Montana concerts, and Utah.

FAX
07-17-2009, 06:59 AM
U go, Ms. Ultra Peanut.

The way you've approached this situation is very admirable. Few could or would have done so with similar (let alone equal) humor, aplomb, and sang-froid. I, for one, am very proud of you, supportive of your decisions, and impressed with how you've handled things. I hope you know that I would never, ever treat you with such disrespect as to demand to see your tittahs.

But should you want some constructive feedback on those bad boys, just let me know.

FAX

Ari Chi3fs
07-17-2009, 08:59 AM
It's of my opinion that people who feel that they are the wrong gender... probably was the opposite sex in their most previous past life...

But, the lesson is to learn how to be a guy this life... or something.

Oh well... I'm sure you will get to try again... you just aren't ready to be a guy... so next couple lives UP will probably choose to be a girl... then later attempt being a man again.

Who knows? That is the way I see it... Maybe most of the time UP incarnates as a woman...

I'd do a past life regression session if I were you, UP... certainly will glean some interesting knowledge, I'd bet.

Ari Chi3fs
07-17-2009, 09:01 AM
Oh and... SHOW US YER BEEWBS!!!

TIT-TAYS!! lmao

Reaper16
07-17-2009, 04:21 PM
This my be inappropriate and I apologize if it is but did you have your, well um little peanutz removed or did you just get tit's?
Would you ask something along those lines to anyone else? You probably wouldn't, not even in a private message.

Gonzo
07-17-2009, 05:34 PM
How in the sweet chocolate christ did I miss this? I will never again ignore a UP thread for as long as I live.

Congrats on your new found happenis. lol
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patteeu
07-17-2009, 07:04 PM
Would you ask something along those lines to anyone else? You probably wouldn't, not even in a private message.

:spock: It wouldn't make any sense to ask that question to anyone else. It makes complete sense to ask it to UP and it was asked in a completely respectful way. UP can choose whether or not to answer it. It's not like UP has been reluctant to share some pretty personal information in the past. She's a big girl. She doesn't need a PC enforcer clearing the path for her.

patteeu
07-17-2009, 07:05 PM
I'm happy to hear that your relationship with your family and your life in general are going well these days, UP. Good for you.

Iowanian
07-17-2009, 07:09 PM
Lots of freaks on the internet man.

Reaper16
07-17-2009, 07:12 PM
:spock: It wouldn't make any sense to ask that question to anyone else. It makes complete sense to ask it to UP and it was asked in a completely respectful way. UP can choose whether or not to answer it. It's not like UP has been reluctant to share some pretty personal information in the past. She's a big girl. She doesn't need a PC enforcer clearing the path for her.
It was asked respectfully, you're right. Well, as respectfully as one can publicly ask about someone else's private parts.

RJ
07-17-2009, 07:21 PM
Some women like to show their tits. I think the view them the same as a nice piece of jewelry.

UP is a friend, and I never ask my friends to show me their tits......unless I'm drunk.....and the friend is drunk. Cause I have certain standards of behavior, ya' know?

Raised On Riots
07-17-2009, 08:51 PM
You fail at preferring boobs.

ROFL This.

kstater
07-17-2009, 08:55 PM
I'm happy to hear that your relationship with your family and your life in general are going well these days, UP. Good for you.

This

Ceej
07-17-2009, 09:00 PM
Sooo.. what are you wearing?

RJ
07-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Sooo.. what are you wearing?


Me?

Blue gym shorts, gray t-shirt.

Why?

Mr. Krab
07-17-2009, 09:05 PM
Wha?

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2115/manbra.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/manbra.jpg/)ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Mr. Krab
07-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Wait ......... UP has tits?

BCD
07-17-2009, 09:28 PM
I hope everything goes well for UP. Whatever makes her happy. I always wondered if UP was male or female. I'm not surprised at this development.

Ultra Peanut
07-18-2009, 03:20 AM
:spock: It wouldn't make any sense to ask that question to anyone else. It makes complete sense to ask it to UP and it was asked in a completely respectful way.No, it really doesn't make complete sense, no matter how respectful the question (and Buzz asked nicely, sort of). There are lots of states in which people have physical issues that aren't addressed in the same way, because cis people tend to be able to own their bodies and the discussion of their bodies in ways they feel trans people don't have the right to do.

If you walked up to a woman approaching menopause, how well do you think it would go over if you asked her whether or not she was still "a bleeder?" If you saw some 60 year old guy, it would be rude to ask, "Hey there, how's the ol' penis been acting lately? You still able to get that thing up or do you need pills?"

Similarly, it is rude to ask a trans person, as in the case of any other person, about their genitals if they're not volunteering the information first. This doesn't make Buzz or any of the countless other people who have asked rude people, it just means that the message society sends out is one that says my privacy is less important than your curiosity, just like my safety is less important than your perceived emotional well-being.

It's just assumed that because we have to exert an incredible amount of visible effort (and even more mental effort) to get our bodies to align with our genders, everyone else has the right to pry as hard as they can about whatever they want; we're weird and fascinating, right? What purpose could we possibly have for wanting to hold on to a shred or two of privacy with regard to our bodies? You already know so much, after all!

Anyways, I'd already answered the question elsewhere (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5903096#post5903096) just the other day, because people really really really really like to bring it up.

She doesn't need a PC enforcer clearing the path for her.I was actually chatting with him when I saw the post and asked him to say something, because I was exhausted and looking for a more pointed and direct response than the rambling response about exotification and privilege that I would have gone into at that point. Or this point, I guess.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 03:27 AM
No, it really doesn't make complete sense, no matter how respectful the question (and Buzz asked nicely, sort of). There are lots of states in which people have physical issues that aren't addressed in the same way, because cis people tend to be able to own their bodies and the discussion of their bodies in ways they feel trans people don't have the right to do.

If you walked up to a woman approaching menopause, how well do you think it would go over if you asked her whether or not she was still "a bleeder?" If you saw some 60 year old guy, it would be rude to ask, "Hey there, how's the ol' penis been acting lately? You still able to get that thing up or do you need pills?"

Similarly, it is rude to ask a trans person, as in the case of any other person, about their genitals if they're not volunteering the information first. It's just assumed that because we have to exert an incredible amount of visible effort (and even more mental effort) to get our bodies to align with our genders, everyone else has the right to pry as hard as they can about whatever they want; we're weird and fascinating, right? What purpose could we possibly have for wanting to hold on to a shred or two of privacy with regard to our bodies? You already know so much, after all!

Anyways, I'd already answered the question elsewhere (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5903096#post5903096) just the other day, because people really really really really like to bring it up.

I was actually chatting with him when I saw the post and asked him to say something, because I was exhausted and looking for a more pointed and direct response than the rambling, barely-coherent response about exotification and privilege that I would have gone into at that point.

You don't owe these motherfuckers shit!

Now you know me, and you know I'm gonna' let you handle your business your way and that I'm gonna' step out and off right now, but I had to say at least that much.

Dick Bull
07-18-2009, 03:29 AM
No, it really doesn't make complete sense, no matter how respectful the question (and Buzz asked nicely, sort of). There are lots of states in which people have physical issues that aren't addressed in the same way, because cis people tend to be able to own their bodies and the discussion of their bodies in ways they feel trans people don't have the right to do.

If you walked up to a woman approaching menopause, how well do you think it would go over if you asked her whether or not she was still "a bleeder?" If you saw some 60 year old guy, it would be rude to ask, "Hey there, how's the ol' penis been acting lately? You still able to get that thing up or do you need pills?"

Similarly, it is rude to ask a trans person, as in the case of any other person, about their genitals if they're not volunteering the information first. This doesn't make Buzz or any of the countless other people who have asked rude people, it just means that the message society sends out is one that says my privacy is less important than your curiosity, just like my safety is less important than your perceived safety (http://questioningtransphobia.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/bathroom-panic-its-totally-feminist/), and my emotional well-being is less important than your emotional well-being.

It's just assumed that because we have to exert an incredible amount of visible effort (and even more mental effort) to get our bodies to align with our genders, everyone else has the right to pry as hard as they can about whatever they want; we're weird and fascinating, right? What purpose could we possibly have for wanting to hold on to a shred or two of privacy with regard to our bodies? You already know so much, after all!

Anyways, I'd already answered the question elsewhere (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5903096#post5903096) just the other day, because people really really really really like to bring it up.

I was actually chatting with him when I saw the post and asked him to say something, because I was exhausted and looking for a more pointed and direct response than the rambling, barely-coherent response about exotification and privilege that I would have gone into at that point.


That'd be all good but you're the one who posted this info about your personal life a ways back. You're also the person who continuously brings it up. You can't divulge the story and the back drop without expecting some to act like asses, some to be curious or some to be compassionate.

I look at this the same way as a ballplayer. If they didn't want to be a celebrity don't act like one.

Ultra Peanut
07-18-2009, 03:33 AM
That'd be all good but you're the one who posted this info about your personal life a ways back.Coming out as trans four years ago does not entitle you to ask about my genitals, thanks.

You're also the person who continuously brings it up. You can't divulge the story and the back drop without expecting some to act like asses, some to be curious or some to be compassionate.
I haven't initiated a conversation about me being trans in for-fucking-ever. Assholes constantly mentioning it as some sort of trump card whenever I disagree with them is not "continuously bringing it up."

I look at this the same way as a ballplayer. If they didn't want to be a celebrity don't act like one.Suicidal teenager reaching out for the first time in her life = acting like a celebrity, got it.

Dick Bull
07-18-2009, 03:41 AM
Coming out as trans four years ago does not entitle you to ask about my genitals, thanks.

I haven't initiated a conversation about me being trans in for-****ing-ever. Assholes constantly mentioning it as some sort of trump card whenever I disagree with them is not "continuously bringing it up."

Suicidal teenager reaching out for the first time in her life = acting like a celebrity, got it.

Look. I'm not gonna argue with you and I wish you all the happiness in the world and if I came off sounding otherwise I apologize. I don't know your situation, emotions etc.

The only point i'm trying to make (and I don't know what brought all of this on) is that once you opened that door (and I respect you for it and have always felt it was a courageous thing to do) that door wouldn't close.

I think it's a bunch of crap when people engage in a disagreement and they reach for the low brow encyclopedias as well, that being said you must have known that would play out that way.

My last statement about you bringing it up isn't like you reached out to mom, dad or a teacher at your school. You posted it on a forum on the world wide web. Surely as someone as intelligent as yourself must have known their would be repercussions.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 03:47 AM
The Lord is My Chauffeur, and I Want Yam-Yam!

stevieray
07-18-2009, 04:19 AM
Psarkosis playing the sympathy card in between five thousand insults again?

I'd stand by your side if someone gave you trouble in public, but don't pretend that sharing this information doesn't make you vulnerable....you appear to want this validation at a distance, understandable, but tiresome

Moobs
07-18-2009, 04:21 AM
I don't post often, and this may not be the proper setting, but your story is quite inspiring UP.

From a random guy, I'm glad that you have shared your story over the years.

Fuck, I have a UP/Zach avatar. Now this is just weird.

Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 06:16 AM
I'm not above asking Bob Dole [THE Bob Dole, not our Bob Dole] how the viagra and Britney Spears videos were working for him.

Phobia
07-18-2009, 08:44 AM
I'm no longer arrogant enough to think I know what is best for UP. At first I was. But, who am I to decide? I'm very pleased to hear that it's working out with her family. There is nobody more important than our families.

JohnnyV13
07-18-2009, 08:55 AM
Listen, I don't pretend to understand transsexualism.

I don't think anyone really understands it, even the people that have it. No one knows why some people feel that way. Are they really "the other gender", in mind spirit or soul or whatever? Or, do they have some kind of serious psychiatric problem?

I think the bottom line is that UP isn't trying to harm anyone else. She's just trying to live in a way that makes her happy and not miserable.

Ebolapox
07-18-2009, 09:59 AM
No, it really doesn't make complete sense, no matter how respectful the question (and Buzz asked nicely, sort of). There are lots of states in which people have physical issues that aren't addressed in the same way, because cis people tend to be able to own their bodies and the discussion of their bodies in ways they feel trans people don't have the right to do.

If you walked up to a woman approaching menopause, how well do you think it would go over if you asked her whether or not she was still "a bleeder?" If you saw some 60 year old guy, it would be rude to ask, "Hey there, how's the ol' penis been acting lately? You still able to get that thing up or do you need pills?"

Similarly, it is rude to ask a trans person, as in the case of any other person, about their genitals if they're not volunteering the information first. This doesn't make Buzz or any of the countless other people who have asked rude people, it just means that the message society sends out is one that says my privacy is less important than your curiosity, just like my safety is less important than your perceived emotional well-being.

It's just assumed that because we have to exert an incredible amount of visible effort (and even more mental effort) to get our bodies to align with our genders, everyone else has the right to pry as hard as they can about whatever they want; we're weird and fascinating, right? What purpose could we possibly have for wanting to hold on to a shred or two of privacy with regard to our bodies? You already know so much, after all!

Anyways, I'd already answered the question elsewhere (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5903096#post5903096) just the other day, because people really really really really like to bring it up.

I was actually chatting with him when I saw the post and asked him to say something, because I was exhausted and looking for a more pointed and direct response than the rambling response about exotification and privilege that I would have gone into at that point. Or this point, I guess.

wait. did you just go cis/trans organic chem isomerism? impressive. only a small handful of people on this board who would even have a slight clue where you just went. nice.

RNR
07-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Listen, I don't pretend to understand transsexualism.

I don't think anyone really understands it, even the people that have it. No one knows why some people feel that way. Are they really "the other gender", in mind spirit or soul or whatever? Or, do they have some kind of serious psychiatric problem?

I think the bottom line is that UP isn't trying to harm anyone else. She's just trying to live in a way that makes her happy and not miserable.

I have nothing against UP or for UP. I have read enough to know we come from much different worlds. I can not relate to his, and I am sure he can not relate to mine. That said if you air your laundry in public you can expect some comments about the stains.

Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 11:49 AM
wait. did you just go cis/trans organic chem isomerism? impressive. only a small handful of people on this board who would even have a slight clue where you just went. nice.

Dunno if UP is a chemist, but that's the terminology used to gender alignment, adapted from Chem [or technically, Latin] long before UP used it here.

And FTR, cis and trans isn't limited to organic chem, it can describe any diastereoisomer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

Mecca
07-18-2009, 11:55 AM
Usually anyone asking about genitals is pretty strange/rude unless it's not at al meant to be serious and both parties are aware of it.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 11:58 AM
Usually anyone asking about genitals is pretty strange/rude unless it's not at al meant to be serious and both parties are aware of it.

How big are your balls?

Ebolapox
07-18-2009, 12:02 PM
Dunno if UP is a chemist, but that's the terminology used to gender alignment, adapted from Chem [or technically, Latin] long before UP used it here.

And FTR, cis and trans isn't limited to organic chem, it can describe any diastereoisomer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

yeah, I know. though technically, diastereomers (and stereoisomers in general) are organic chem bread/butter.

and yeah, it's likely adapted from the latin and has NO relation to chem aside from root-meanings. it just piqued the science geek in me.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 12:06 PM
How big are your balls?

Are you wondering if I should change my name to Flopnuts #2...or maybe Mecca of Flopnuts?

Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 12:08 PM
yeah, I know. though technically, diastereomers (and stereoisomers in general) are organic chem bread/butter.

and yeah, it's likely adapted from the latin and has NO relation to chem aside from root-meanings. it just piqued the science geek in me.

Maybe it's just still fresh from going through that shit with Ligands, then going through it again with Alkenes and Alkynes.

Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 12:09 PM
How big are your balls?

[Stern Reference]I need some twatchtkk cream[/SR]

cabletech94
07-18-2009, 12:32 PM
How in the sweet chocolate christ did I miss this? I will never again ignore a UP thread for as long as I live.

Congrats on your new found happenis. lol
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Totally agree here. I'm a lurker, who occassionally posts. Love the Chefs and love my peeps that love 'em too, but I totally missed this.

Good for you UP!

also, when the hell did gochiefs lose his hyman?
Gone for one day and KABLAMMO!

burt
07-18-2009, 12:42 PM
It's the internet.....I don't care what UP is....I just don't like UP....and it doesn't matter what UP is, because I will hever meet UP!

patteeu
07-18-2009, 04:06 PM
yeah, I know. though technically, diastereomers (and stereoisomers in general) are organic chem bread/butter.

and yeah, it's likely adapted from the latin and has NO relation to chem aside from root-meanings. it just piqued the science geek in me.

Is this the same science geek who has a rigid, faith-based view of the solar system? Yes, I think it is.

patteeu
07-18-2009, 04:15 PM
No, it really doesn't make complete sense, no matter how respectful the question (and Buzz asked nicely, sort of). There are lots of states in which people have physical issues that aren't addressed in the same way, because cis people tend to be able to own their bodies and the discussion of their bodies in ways they feel trans people don't have the right to do.

If you walked up to a woman approaching menopause, how well do you think it would go over if you asked her whether or not she was still "a bleeder?" If you saw some 60 year old guy, it would be rude to ask, "Hey there, how's the ol' penis been acting lately? You still able to get that thing up or do you need pills?"

Similarly, it is rude to ask a trans person, as in the case of any other person, about their genitals if they're not volunteering the information first. This doesn't make Buzz or any of the countless other people who have asked rude people, it just means that the message society sends out is one that says my privacy is less important than your curiosity, just like my safety is less important than your perceived emotional well-being.

It's just assumed that because we have to exert an incredible amount of visible effort (and even more mental effort) to get our bodies to align with our genders, everyone else has the right to pry as hard as they can about whatever they want; we're weird and fascinating, right? What purpose could we possibly have for wanting to hold on to a shred or two of privacy with regard to our bodies? You already know so much, after all!

Anyways, I'd already answered the question elsewhere (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5903096#post5903096) just the other day, because people really really really really like to bring it up.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't think it was rude at all (considering how it was asked) and given your openness about the subject I think it's the type of question that can be anticipated. OTOH, if you consider it too personal, I don't have a problem with you politely telling him it's none of his business.

Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 04:18 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't think it was rude at all (considering how it was asked) and given your openness about the subject I think it's the type of question that can be anticipated. OTOH, if you consider it too personal, I don't have a problem with you politely telling him it's none of his business.

I DO tend to think that there's a discernable difference between asking a complete stranger about his/her genetalia, and hearing someone say they are in existential crisis about the configuration of their genetalia and replying 'so what have you done about it?'

Or, for that matter, to ask again when the same person [so far as you know somewhere in his journey of transition to her] says 'you guys would have no way of knowing about this otherwise, but I thought I'd tell you some guy on the internet requested pictures of my boobies'

Valiant
07-18-2009, 04:31 PM
Game is retarded. She was attracted to your looks and happy that you talked to her. That's all.

Please don't give out advice..

Bowser
07-18-2009, 04:32 PM
Has anyone shown their tits yet?

Ceej
07-18-2009, 04:37 PM
Has anyone shown their tits yet?

No kidding. Where do I fast forward to the good stuff -- like boobies, lesbos and beer?

Phobia
07-18-2009, 04:37 PM
I DO tend to think that there's a discernable difference between asking a complete stranger about his/her genetalia, and hearing someone say they are in existential crisis about the configuration of their genetalia and replying 'so what have you done about it?'

Or, for that matter, to ask again when the same person [so far as you know somewhere in his journey of transition to her] says 'you guys would have no way of knowing about this otherwise, but I thought I'd tell you some guy on the internet requested pictures of my boobies'

Completely agree with this. It would be one thing to be a complete dickbag about it and ask expressly to embarrass her. But she's put it out there and has been very open about it. As long as we're respectful, I don't see how asking is overly rude. If she wants it to be none of our business then make it ALL none of our business. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Don't be a tease already, UP.

Fire Me Boy!
07-18-2009, 04:41 PM
I DO tend to think that there's a discernable difference between asking a complete stranger about his/her genetalia, and hearing someone say they are in existential crisis about the configuration of their genetalia and replying 'so what have you done about it?'

Or, for that matter, to ask again when the same person [so far as you know somewhere in his journey of transition to her] says 'you guys would have no way of knowing about this otherwise, but I thought I'd tell you some guy on the internet requested pictures of my boobies'

That's how I see it.

Valiant
07-18-2009, 04:43 PM
I don't post often, and this may not be the proper setting, but your story is quite inspiring UP.

From a random guy, I'm glad that you have shared your story over the years.

****, I have a UP/Zach avatar. Now this is just weird.

Wow, your name is soo fitting in this thread...

UP grats and good luck, an ex-coworker named Phil thought about what you did.. He did not go through with it though.. And not the Phil on her, but you never know..

Gonzo
07-18-2009, 04:46 PM
Completely agree with this. It would be one thing to be a complete dickbag about it and ask expressly to embarrass her. But she's put it out there and has been very open about it. As long as we're respectful, I don't see how asking is overly rude. If she wants it to be none of our business then make it ALL none of our business. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Don't be a tease already, UP.

Hey, Phil...

Show me ur titties...
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Phobia
07-18-2009, 04:49 PM
Hey, Phil...

Show me ur titties...
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I would but they're not impressive. Plus there is some hair. We don't need any of that.

BCD
07-18-2009, 04:50 PM
Has anyone shown their tits yet?I'm prepared to post my manboobs...

Gonzo
07-18-2009, 04:51 PM
I would but they're not impressive. Plus there is some hair. We don't need any of that.
Tease...
:)
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Gonzo
07-18-2009, 04:52 PM
I'm prepared to post my manboobs...

I don't know how but this thread got gheyer.
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Baby Lee
07-18-2009, 05:00 PM
Gonzo, BCD and Phobia, go decide who gets to be Lucky Pierre somewheres else. :thailor:

BCD
07-18-2009, 05:00 PM
I don't know how but this thread got gheyer.
Posted via Mobile DeviceIts OK, there is some hair. Does that butch it up any? :)

patteeu
07-18-2009, 06:00 PM
Completely agree with this. It would be one thing to be a complete dickbag about it and ask expressly to embarrass her. But she's put it out there and has been very open about it. As long as we're respectful, I don't see how asking is overly rude. If she wants it to be none of our business then make it ALL none of our business. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Don't be a tease already, UP.

Same

Ultra Peanut
07-18-2009, 08:21 PM
Sorry Eb, I came to use trans/cis via activist language, not chemistry. I am not as science smart as I wish I were.

Listen, I don't pretend to understand transsexualism.

I don't think anyone really understands it, even the people that have it. No one knows why some people feel that way. Are they really "the other gender", in mind spirit or soul or whatever? Or, do they have some kind of serious psychiatric problem?In the last decade or so there have been some neat studies about trans women having brain features (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034) similar to those of cis women, with the same applying for trans and cis men.

Basically, though, regardless of what the hell happened to cause the trans, the "reparative" psychological model has been a complete failure, while medical and social transition has had a rather high success rate. Let me just say that I'm very, very, very glad I decided to give life as myself a shot instead of trying to kill myself, the latter of which appearing to be the only logical conclusion for a long, long time.

Completely agree with this. It would be one thing to be a complete dickbag about it and ask expressly to embarrass her. But she's put it out there and has been very open about it. As long as we're respectful, I don't see how asking is overly rude.I didn't say it was overly rude in this particular case. Buzz was fairly polite, though he also showed his lack of understanding of the process when he indicated that he thought I'd gotten implants or something. For the record, I have very very very small (and incredibly painful) boobs; the creepy guy would have been quite disappointed if he'd gotten his wish.

My primary point was that focusing on and asking intrusive questions about trans people's genital configuration was a rude habit cis people feel entitled to perpetuate as a result of society's ignorance and misperceptions of trans people and our experiences.

If she wants it to be none of our business then make it ALL none of our business. I wouldn't have a problem with that. Many people have shared parts of their personal lives on here over the years, but there are boundaries which tend to not be crossed. The knowledge of the fact that I'm trans does not mean I'm obligated to entertain every single inquiry into extremely intimate details about my body.

And even if you think it's not all that rude to take such a prying tack, I'd say it's pretty rude to keep making an issue of something after someone has said she's really not into that particular line of discussion. No?

Don't be a tease already, UP.Maybe that's supposed to be funny, I dunno.

I DO tend to think that there's a discernable difference between asking a complete stranger about his/her genetalia, and hearing someone say they are in existential crisis about the configuration of their genetalia and replying 'so what have you done about it?'Bingo bango bongo, chalk up another one for the "Being trans is all about the genitals" trope.

Also, to clear up more terminology, I'm not becoming a "her." I've been one my entire life.

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 08:23 PM
In the last decade or so there have been some neat studies about trans women having brain features (http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/85/5/2034) similar to those of cis women, with the same applying for trans and cis men.

Basically, though, regardless of what the hell happened to cause the trans, the "reparative" psychological model has been a complete failure, while medical and social transition has had a rather high success rate. Let me just say that I'm very, very, very glad I decided to give life as myself a shot instead of trying to kill myself, the latter of which appearing to be the only logical conclusion for a long, long time.

I didn't say it was overly rude in this particular case. Buzz was fairly polite, though he also showed his lack of understanding of the process when he indicated that he thought I'd gotten implants or something. For the record, I have very very very small (and incredibly painful) boobs; the creepy guy would have been quite disappointed if he'd gotten his wish.

My primary point was that focusing on and asking intrusive questions about trans people's genital configuration was a rude habit cis people feel entitled to perpetuate as a result of society's ignorance and misperceptions of trans people and our experiences.

Many people have shared parts of their personal lives on here over the years, but there are boundaries which tend to not be crossed. The knowledge of the fact that I'm trans does not mean I'm obligated to entertain every single inquiry into extremely intimate details about my body.

And even if you think it's not all that rude to take such a prying tack, I'd say it's pretty rude to keep making an issue of something after someone has said she's really not into that particular line of discussion. No?

Maybe that's supposed to be funny, I dunno.

Bingo bango bongo, chalk up another one for the "Being trans is all about the genitals" trope.
The effort it took to post that was worth it.

Silock
07-18-2009, 08:56 PM
UP = a dude, in my eyes, but only because I'm only familiar with the online persona.

I'm sure the off-line persona is different, but the online persona is very masculine. UP's interests aren't those normally attributed to women. Not a bad thing, though. Just how I see it. I think any time a woman posts on the internet, I just assume it's a dude until proven otherwise. I love UP's sense of humor and our interests are similar. I guess I just don't see online personas as "gendered," if that makes any sense. You all are the same to me. You're all assholes!

Ultra Peanut
07-18-2009, 09:29 PM
You want I should start talking (even more) about qt boiz and fashion on here? So help me, I'll do it out of spite!

PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO, may your cheeks be forever pinchable!

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:31 PM
UP = a dude, in my eyes, but only because I'm only familiar with the online persona.

I'm sure the off-line persona is different, but the online persona is very masculine. UP's interests aren't those normally attributed to women. Not a bad thing, though. Just how I see it. I think any time a woman posts on the internet, I just assume it's a dude until proven otherwise. I love UP's sense of humor and our interests are similar. I guess I just don't see online personas as "gendered," if that makes any sense. You all are the same to me. You're all assholes!

Well, allow me to sound female for a minute and remind you of how much I love you. You helped me lose 125lbs you son of a bitch. :D

Silock
07-18-2009, 09:37 PM
You want I should start talking (even more) about qt boiz and fashion on here? So help me, I'll do it out of spite!

That's cool with me. I'm metro!

And the boiz like me. To the yard, my milkshake brings them:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5898236

Silock
07-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Well, allow me to sound female for a minute and remind you of how much I love you. You helped me lose 125lbs you son of a bitch. :D

<3

Hope you're still doing well with it!

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Well, allow me to sound female for a minute and remind you of how much I love you. You helped me lose 125lbs you son of a bitch. :D

Yeah, that had a spot of awkward in it. Fer sure.

Silock
07-18-2009, 09:38 PM
PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO, may your cheeks be forever pinchable!

He's like a living Keebler Elf. Every time I see him, I just want cookies :cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:39 PM
<3

Hope you're still doing well with it!

I got lazy for a long time, but I maintained what I lost. Recently I've started back up again, within 2 months got right back up to 25 miles a week. So I'm pretty hopeful for the future. But besides that, I know what to do now. I was really an uneducated schlep, and I have you to thank for the new knowledge. I know you'd rather I not go on, but I'm very grateful for you taking an interest last year.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:40 PM
Man if I lost 125lbs I'd be dead.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Man if I lost 125lbs I'd be dead.

LMAO Yeah, and I have another 100 to go. I weighed 450 dude.

Silock
07-18-2009, 09:43 PM
I got lazy for a long time, but I maintained what I lost. Recently I've started back up again, within 2 months got right back up to 25 miles a week. So I'm pretty hopeful for the future. But besides that, I know what to do now. I was really an uneducated schlep, and I have you to thank for the new knowledge. I know you'd rather I not go on, but I'm very grateful for you taking an interest last year.

Nice. It really was no problem. I love sharing info, especially related to fitness. Things always seem to be changing, so what we knew 5 years ago is already outdated. It's almost impossible for one person to stay up to date on everything. I'm just glad it helped and you dropped weight.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:43 PM
LMAO Yeah, and I have another 100 to go. I weighed 450 dude.

Wow really? I never knew that...I could drop a few lbs how are you doing this that's really impressive.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:47 PM
Wow really? I never knew that...I could drop a few lbs how are you doing this that's really impressive.

I lost it in 6 months. From Jan of 08 to June of 08. Since then, I haven't lost much. I'd go up 10lbs and lose it. Rinse and repeat. Finally I put on an extra 20 lbs and have lost about 30lbs in the last 2 months.

It's just running and rabbit food. Literally. It started with 20 minutes of walking around the block, and that really pained me. Now, I weigh 325 and run 4-5 miles a day on an elleptical machine. Losing weight is 80% calorie intake, and 20% exercise. If you eat less calories than you burn every day, you lose weight. By running, I force my metabolism to work for me, rather than against me.

Sorry for the hijack UP.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:49 PM
One of my knees is completely jacked up so the idea of running makes me grimace....

Silock
07-18-2009, 09:50 PM
One of my knees is completely jacked up so the idea of running makes me grimace....

Cycling, elliptical or swimming. You don't have to run. You just have to get your heart rate up. There are plenty of ways to do that without impact.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:51 PM
One of my knees is completely jacked up so the idea of running makes me grimace....

Cardio is the greatest thing for losing weight. Swimming laps much the same way as you would run would be an excellent way to accomplish it. If you want it, you'll go get it. I say that because I'm not nearly as desperate at 325 as I was at 450. I won't lose this 100 anywhere near as fast as the 125 because I'm living my life now. Then I was eating what was necessary, when it was necessary to lose as much weight as fastly as possible, while being healthy.

Ultra Peanut
07-18-2009, 09:52 PM
I lost it in 6 months. From Jan of 08 to June of 08. Since then, I haven't lost much. I'd go up 10lbs and lose it. Rinse and repeat. Finally I put on an extra 20 lbs and have lost about 30lbs in the last 2 months.

It's just running and rabbit food. Literally. It started with 20 minutes of walking around the block, and that really pained me. Now, I weigh 325 and run 4-5 miles a day on an elleptical machine. Losing weight is 80% calorie intake, and 20% exercise. If you eat less calories than you burn every day, you lose weight. By running, I force my metabolism to work for me, rather than against me.

Sorry for the hijack UP.Weight loss is awesome. I fully support it.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:52 PM
I don't know how to swim lol....

I weigh like 235, I'd be happy to be 200.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Cycling, elliptical or swimming. You don't have to run. You just have to get your heart rate up. There are plenty of ways to do that without impact.

Exactly. The elliptical is what I use for the same reason. I could never put 325lbs of impact on my knees and joints. Especially in 5 mile stretches.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 09:53 PM
Cycling, elliptical or swimming. You don't have to run. You just have to get your heart rate up. There are plenty of ways to do that without impact.

Can't beat it; best cardio EVAH!

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:54 PM
Weight loss is awesome. I fully support it.

I know you've been there, but I wasn't trying to hijack this thread. This thread is important. A lot of what Silock did for me was on fatchatter, and I just wanted to take that opportunity to pimp him to the masses. I'm indebted to that guy in ways no one including him could really understand. I would've been dead within 10 years without the knowledge he gave me.

Douche Baggins
07-18-2009, 09:55 PM
Cardio is the greatest thing for losing weight.

Incorrect.

http://www.drdarden.com/img/photos/mcCutcheonsPhoto.jpg

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:56 PM
Incorrect.

http://www.drdarden.com/img/photos/mcCutcheonsPhoto.jpg

Only if you run your ass off immediately after lifting. Otherwise, I don't agree with that at all.

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 09:56 PM
I weigh 145. Be jealous.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:56 PM
I weigh 145. Be jealous.

You do realize if I was super skinny we'd look exactly alike.

Douche Baggins
07-18-2009, 09:57 PM
Only if you run your ass off immediately after lifting. Otherwise, I don't agree with that at all.

Weight lifting > cardio.

There is zero question.

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 09:57 PM
You do realize if I was super skinny we'd look exactly alike.
Yes. It'd be hilarious.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:57 PM
I weigh 145. Be jealous.

LMAO I am jealous of your absurdly high metabolism, but honestly I would never want to be that light. For one thing, I enjoy the added security of being 6'5. Being a big motherfucker doesn't guarantee you safety, but it certainly lowers percentages of unwanted confrontation.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Weight lifting > cardio.

There is zero question.

This doctor would disagree.

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/features/exercise-lose-weight

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
LMAO I am jealous of your absurdly high metabolism, but honestly I would never want to be that light. For one thing, I enjoy the added security of being 6'5. Being a big motherfucker doesn't guarantee you safety, but it certainly lowers percentages of unwanted confrontation.
You don't think I've got a posse? I'm untouchable.

Mecca
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Reaper is about to show his Morrison abs.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Incorrect.

http://www.drdarden.com/img/photos/mcCutcheonsPhoto.jpg

It takes both, actually.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
You want I should start talking (even more) about qt boiz and fashion on here? So help me, I'll do it out of spite!

PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO PAVLYUCHENKO, may your cheeks be forever pinchable!DUDE! Dad's a CHICK!! [/Chris Griffin]

UP = a dude, in my eyes, but only because I'm only familiar with the online persona.

I'm sure the off-line persona is different, but the online persona is very masculine. UP's interests aren't those normally attributed to women. Not a bad thing, though. Just how I see it. I think any time a woman posts on the internet, I just assume it's a dude until proven otherwise. I love UP's sense of humor and our interests are similar. I guess I just don't see online personas as "gendered," if that makes any sense. You all are the same to me. You're all assholes!I think this take is pretty close to how I feel. UP is a funny, intelligent poster that has way more sports knowledge than I. However she found that place that makes her happy is ok by me. Most of the rest of us would be so lucky to be so happy/comfortable with our own lives.

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 10:00 PM
You don't think I've got a posse? I'm untouchable.

LMAO Well and good. I'm a hermit for the most part, I've got me.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 10:02 PM
Incorrect.

http://www.drdarden.com/img/photos/mcCutcheonsPhoto.jpgIF done correctly, with cardio thrown in. I'm in the process of losing by cardio and a bunch of core workouts, and I'm about to start the p90X. I will definitely take the before/after pics.

I weigh 145. Be jealous.Dude, I could fart and blow you down the street.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 10:04 PM
Can't beat it; best cardio EVAH!

Today was 40 minutes and 4.28 miles on the eliptical. I was sweating like a whore in confession.

Phobia
07-18-2009, 10:09 PM
I didn't say it was overly rude in this particular case. Buzz was fairly polite, though he also showed his lack of understanding of the process when he indicated that he thought I'd gotten implants or something. For the record, I have very very very small (and incredibly painful) boobs; the creepy guy would have been quite disappointed if he'd gotten his wish.

My primary point was that focusing on and asking intrusive questions about trans people's genital configuration was a rude habit cis people feel entitled to perpetuate as a result of society's ignorance and misperceptions of trans people and our experiences.

Many people have shared parts of their personal lives on here over the years, but there are boundaries which tend to not be crossed. The knowledge of the fact that I'm trans does not mean I'm obligated to entertain every single inquiry into extremely intimate details about my body.

And even if you think it's not all that rude to take such a prying tack, I'd say it's pretty rude to keep making an issue of something after someone has said she's really not into that particular line of discussion. No?

Maybe that's supposed to be funny, I dunno.


You're moving the goalposts, UP. If you want your body to be private then don't talk about your breasts. It's really quite simple. If you open the door to breasts then you can't cry about genital questions.

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 10:11 PM
You're moving the goalposts, UP. If you want your body to be private then don't talk about your breasts. It's really quite simple. If you open the door to breasts then you can't cry about genital questions.
That's like a poster telling someone to 'suck my left nut' or something and another poster asking the first poster 'how big is your dick.'

Mr. Flopnuts
07-18-2009, 10:12 PM
Today was 40 minutes and 4.28 miles on the eliptical. I was sweating like a whore in confession.

Wow! That's a lot faster than me. It would take me 45 minutes to do that. But I burn about 750 calories at that rate.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 10:13 PM
Today was 40 minutes and 4.28 miles on the eliptical. I was sweating like a whore in confession.

I don't use the "ski"-model. I like the one where your arms stay stationary while your legs incline/decline.

One hour in the morning, one hour at night with a two mile walk on the treadmill after each.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 10:18 PM
I don't use the "ski"-model. I like the one where your arms stay stationary while your legs incline/decline.

One hour in the morning, one hour at night with a two mile walk on the treadmill after each.

Yeah, I learned that the hard way. For over a year I used that ski model EFX, and I have massive knots in my shoulders. Since I gave that up and just went to the more conventional model, I haven't had the issues with my back/shoulders.

And that's how I used to work out whe I was a younger dude, pre-family - cardio in the morning, weights in the evening.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 10:19 PM
Wow! That's a lot faster than me. It would take me 45 minutes to do that. But I burn about 750 calories at that rate.

It was like 7300 steps at 180-195 steps/min, or something. I have to keep going on that thing, or else I'll just stop. :)

Phobia
07-18-2009, 10:22 PM
That's like a poster telling someone to 'suck my left nut' or something and another poster asking the first poster 'how big is your dick.'

You're right. It's exactly like that. Thanks for your response.

Kyle DeLexus
07-18-2009, 10:29 PM
I honestly hate eliptical trainers. I can't get used to the motion it's just not the same as running to me. I prefer cycling, rowing, or treadmill/outside run. I really want to get into swimming, but never have done that....might hafta start at the new apt. complex.

Bowser
07-18-2009, 10:32 PM
I honestly hate eliptical trainers. I can't get used to the motion it's just not the same as running to me. I prefer cycling, rowing, or treadmill/outside run. I really want to get into swimming, but never have done that....might hafta start at the new apt. complex.

I like the EFX just because I hate dealing with the shin splints, and it's a whole lot less destructive on your knees (and everything, really) than running. But, that's just my preference.

I remember reading an article saying that if you could actually sweat while swimming, it would be far and away the best exercise anyone could do to lose weight.

Kyle DeLexus
07-18-2009, 10:36 PM
I like the EFX just because I hate dealing with the shin splints, and it's a whole lot less destructive on your knees (and everything, really) than running. But, that's just my preference.

I remember reading an article saying that if you could actually sweat while swimming, it would be far and away the best exercise anyone could do to lose weight.

Yeah, it would be a good change since I have a bad left knee from football....there you go anyone who eventually gets in a fight with me just take out my left knee.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Yeah, it would be a good change since I have a bad left knee from football....there you go anyone who eventually gets in a fight with me just take out my left knee.

Duly noted.






Junior. :fire:

Ceej
07-18-2009, 11:13 PM
Ultra Penith. ....sorry.
Posted via Mobile Device

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 11:26 PM
Ultra Penith. ....sorry.
Posted via Mobile Device
Shut the internet down, folks. We have reached the pinnacle of humor.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 11:31 PM
Shut the internet down, folks. We have reached the pinnacle of humor.

ROFL

Phobia
07-18-2009, 11:38 PM
Shut the internet down, folks. We have reached the pinnacle of humor.

Are you and UP dating or are you a hired bodyguard?

Reaper16
07-18-2009, 11:41 PM
Are you and UP dating or are you a hired bodyguard?
Shit, UP isn't the only one. I'll back up Hamas or Mecca or demonpenz or milkman or DeezNuts or old you or any other of my favorite posters.

stevieray
07-19-2009, 12:02 AM
Are you and UP dating or are you a hired bodyguard?

at 145, he's half a bodyguard...err wait..isn't UP 5'7"?

my mistake...three qtrs...

Phobia
07-19-2009, 12:18 AM
Shit, UP isn't the only one. I'll back up Hamas or Mecca or demonpenz or milkman or DeezNuts or old you or any other of my favorite posters.

So you're not dating UP?

Dick Bull
07-19-2009, 12:20 AM
So is this the new 12:00 thread?

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 12:48 AM
at 145, he's half a bodyguard...err wait..isn't UP 5'7"?

my mistake...three qtrs...
You're probably being generous. I'm not fit to bodyguard shit.

So you're not dating UP?
No. She deserves someone more attractive than me.

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 12:52 AM
You're probably being generous. I'm not fit to bodyguard shit.


No. She deserves someone more attractive than me.

I just don't see you two grooving on Dark Throne and Emperor together.:evil:

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 12:52 AM
I just don't see you two grooving on Dark Throne and Emperor together.:evil:
BLACK METAL IST KRIEG

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 12:58 AM
BLACK METAL IST KRIEG

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m3/RaDemon/DeathMetal.gif

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:01 AM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m3/RaDemon/DeathMetal.gif
Watch out, that might give J Diddy a seizure /crossthread humor from last week

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 01:04 AM
Watch out, that might give J Diddy a seizure /crossthread humor from last week


A little seizing never hurt anyone. It'll toughen him up.

Phobia
07-19-2009, 01:06 AM
No. She deserves someone more attractive than me.
You're a nice looking young man in need of a haircut. You seem to have a special affinity for her and the rapport is there. You should take her to a game or something.

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:14 AM
You're a nice looking young man in need of a haircut. You seem to have a special affinity for her and the rapport is there. You should take her to a game or something.
I would be delighted to do that. The hanging out with UP thing, not the haircut thing so much.

This is an awkward conversation to have on the forums, isn't it?

Mecca
07-19-2009, 01:21 AM
I'm not cutting my hair either...fight the power!

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:21 AM
I'm not cutting my hair either...fight the power!
Shit yes.

stevieray
07-19-2009, 01:27 AM
Shit yes.

got bad news for ya.....you aren't fighting anything.

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 01:27 AM
I'm not cutting my hair either...fight the power!

Shit yes.

It does my blackened soul good to see you boys have your priorities straight.:clap:

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:28 AM
got bad news for ya.....you aren't fighting anything.
Yeah huh. We fightin' power. Power gon' lose.

stevieray
07-19-2009, 01:30 AM
Yeah huh. We fightin' power. Power gon' lose.
As someone who wore their hair long for years...You might think you are...but you aren't.

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 01:33 AM
Yeah huh. We fightin' power. Power gon' lose.

ROFL

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:33 AM
As someone who wore my hair long for years...You might think you are...but you aren't.
Oh. See, I was trying, though the lighthearted nature of these posts, to show that I know that I am not fighting anything. I know that. I only have long hair because it fits "me." Its just a part of how I see myself.

Mecca
07-19-2009, 01:38 AM
I have long hair because I like it that way, I figured everyone would know fight the power was a joke.

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:41 AM
I have long hair because I like it that way, I figured everyone would know fight the power was a joke.
Stevieray does not joke. Nor kid. He doesn't josh around. He may not even engage in horseplay.

pr_capone
07-19-2009, 01:42 AM
Stevieray does not joke. Nor kid. He doesn't josh around. He may not even engage in horseplay.

What about tomfoolery?

Dick Bull
07-19-2009, 01:42 AM
I would be delighted to do that. The hanging out with UP thing, not the haircut thing so much.

This is an awkward conversation to have on the forums, isn't it?

We are currently involved in a thread devoted to someone who is going through a sex change publicly and how she is offended about someone asking about her genitals and you think that is awkward conversation.

Mecca
07-19-2009, 01:43 AM
Stevieray does not joke. Nor kid. He doesn't josh around. He may not even engage in horseplay.

He's Regal to our Edge and Christian.

Dick Bull
07-19-2009, 01:44 AM
I have long hair because I like it that way, I figured everyone would know fight the power was a joke.



I used to have long hair, then I shaved one side of my head. After I grew out of that I got it all trimmed up to match the shaved side and haven't turned back since.

Reaper16
07-19-2009, 01:48 AM
What about tomfoolery?
Nay. Shenanigans, neither.

Phobia
07-19-2009, 09:52 AM
I would be delighted to do that. The hanging out with UP thing, not the haircut thing so much.

This is an awkward conversation to have on the forums, isn't it?

I'm a bit of cupid. Can't really help myself. It's a natural talent.

Silock
07-19-2009, 10:10 AM
Weight lifting > cardio.

There is zero question.

You're right... there's no question, but mainly because you're incorrect.

The best weight loss routine includes 4 things:

Lifting for strength gains (higher weight, lower reps), interval cardio training, lifting for size gains (lower weight, higher reps), and a moderate amount of steady-state cardio training.

It takes all four things, and even then, those 4 only take care of about 20% of weight loss. The rest is in the diet. You can get away with doing not all of those 4 physical activities if your diet is in check, or you can make progress, but it won't be optimal.

Raised On Riots
07-19-2009, 02:02 PM
You're right... there's no question, but mainly because you're incorrect.

The best weight loss routine includes 4 things:

Lifting for strength gains (higher weight, lower reps), interval cardio training, lifting for size gains (lower weight, higher reps), and a moderate amount of steady-state cardio training.

It takes all four things, and even then, those 4 only take care of about 20% of weight loss. The rest is in the diet. You can get away with doing not all of those 4 physical activities if your diet is in check, or you can make progress, but it won't be optimal.

And muscle burns fat.

Delano
07-19-2009, 04:35 PM
This thing is kind of neat.

Mr. Kotter
07-19-2009, 05:39 PM
:spock:


Wow. I miss all the fun these days...

LMAO LMAO LMAO