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Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 04:14 PM
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Put Up Your Dukes
Players, media have trust issues with McDaniels

Posted: July 16th, 2009 | Jamie Dukes |

Jay Cutler isn’t the only player who has developed trust issues
with first-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels.
A few other players have privately expressed concern, and the media has
joined the chorus in feeling that McDaniels has a problem with honesty.
Cutler, who’s now a Chicago Bear, said his rationale for wanting a
trade out of Denver was because McDaniels refused to be honest with him
about his role in pursuing Matt Cassel. According to
Cutler, McDaniels continued to deny his role even when confronted with
incontrovertible evidence that he had tried to trade for Cassel, his
pupil in New England.


But this trust issue goes beyond players and extends to the Denver media.
In June, Broncos WR Brandon Marshall met with Broncos owner
Pat Bowlen to discuss his future. In that meeting, according to Marshall,
Bowlen said he wouldn’t stand in the way of the receiver being traded to another team.

Later that afternoon, reporters questioned McDaniels about whether he had met with Marshall.
According to Mike Klis of The Denver Post, McDaniels said, “We met after Pat’s meeting with Brandon,
and we are going to continue our dialogue with Brandon and his representatives.”
Within subsequent days, KDVR-TV in Denver received a tip that
McDaniels wasn’t being forthright and challenged him on his statement.
Presented with the report, McDaniels admitted that he DID NOT meet with Marshall.

Some would say this is no big deal, but trust is the cornerstone of
this society. We need to be able to trust our government. Trust is
essential to marriage and relationships. We need to be able to trust
our children. We need to be able to trust our friends.

As a former NFL player, I can tell you that trust is the foundation
between the player and the coach. When players trust their coach, they
play at another level. Unfortunately, truthfulness seems to be a
character trait that Bill Belichick didn’t pass down to young McDaniels.

Halfcan
07-18-2009, 04:21 PM
I trust him.....







trust him to lose to the Chiefs twice this year.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 04:24 PM
I trust him.....







trust him to lose to the Chiefs twice this year.

I'd laugh my ass off of if McKid and Crennel were coords with the Chiefs next year.

At that point, you have to say, "Pioli, you are the Motherfucking Man"!

LMAO

KC Tattoo
07-18-2009, 05:46 PM
I hate the GALL DAMN BRONCOWS I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them I hate them
did I mention I hate them.


:D

Der Flöprer
07-18-2009, 05:49 PM
I have zero interest in McKid coaching anything for the Chiefs. Let him fetch a sake. And piss on Herm.

chasedude
07-18-2009, 08:41 PM
I just love hearing about more bad news on the donks. Only thing better is good news on the Chiefs.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 08:41 PM
I have zero interest in McKid coaching anything for the Chiefs. Let him fetch a sake. And piss on Herm.


ROFL

Mmmmm...right you may be. Sauto and Duck Dong drink and surf Planet ON CLOCK!

I almost pay busboy and dishwasher prease to take Sauto and Duck Dong to back alley, and BEAT LIKE ORPHAN!

Hai!

Count Alex's Losses
07-18-2009, 08:43 PM
In McDaniels We Trust

To fuck things up.

LaChapelle
07-18-2009, 08:47 PM
**** the Broncos, but Jamie Dukes is a not quite right in the head.

Von Dumbass
07-18-2009, 08:57 PM
I was wondering, I know you were in Dove Valley at one of the mandatory practices, what are your impressions of Josh McDaniels, and how is the team responding to him?

Rod Smith
In control. He's earning their respect by the discipline he's demanding each and every day, not only from the players, but from the coaches. That helps build a solid foundation for any organization. And then you build from there.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/353


http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-broncos/09000d5d81147803/Broncos-2009-outlook

Rod Smith also says that the veteran guys love the changes McDaniels has made. Rod Smith also completely destroys Jamie Dukes' "trust" argument live, on national TV. He makes Jamie Dukes look like a complete fool.

Keep talking out of your ass Dukes!ROFL

The Bad Guy
07-18-2009, 09:22 PM
I was wondering, I know you were in Dove Valley at one of the mandatory practices, what are your impressions of Josh McDaniels, and how is the team responding to him?

Rod Smith
In control. He's earning their respect by the discipline he's demanding each and every day, not only from the players, but from the coaches. That helps build a solid foundation for any organization. And then you build from there.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/353


http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-broncos/09000d5d81147803/Broncos-2009-outlook

Rod Smith also says that the veteran guys love the changes McDaniels has made. Rod Smith also completely destroys Jamie Dukes' "trust" argument live, on national TV. He makes Jamie Dukes look like a complete fool.

Keep talking out of your ass Dukes!ROFL

Yeah, I'm sure Rod Smith is going to be outspoken about anything involving the Denver Broncos. That would be like expecting Will Shields to come out and say nasty shit about the Chiefs.

You must lead a miserable life having to constantly go to rival message boards to try refute every single negative Broncos piece.

JuicesFlowing
07-18-2009, 09:24 PM
**** the Broncos, but Jamie Dukes is a not quite right in the head.

Yancy Thigpen agrees. :)

Von Dumbass
07-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I'm sure Rod Smith is going to be outspoken about anything involving the Denver Broncos. That would be like expecting Will Shields to come out and say nasty shit about the Chiefs.

You must lead a miserable life having to constantly go to rival message boards to try refute every single negative Broncos piece.

He is a straight shooter, always has been. He said he didn't like that Denver traded away Cutler, and didn't give Kyle Orton any praise when asked about him.

orange
07-18-2009, 10:11 PM
You must lead a miserable life having to constantly go to rival message boards to try refute every single negative Broncos piece.

Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

chefsos
07-18-2009, 10:15 PM
I was wondering, I know you were in Dove Valley at one of the mandatory practices, what are your impressions of Josh McDaniels, and how is the team responding to him?

Rod Smith
In control. He's earning their respect by the discipline he's demanding each and every day, not only from the players, but from the coaches. That helps build a solid foundation for any organization. And then you build from there.
http://chat.nfl.com/front/archived_chat/353


http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-broncos/09000d5d81147803/Broncos-2009-outlook

Rod Smith also says that the veteran guys love the changes McDaniels has made. Rod Smith also completely destroys Jamie Dukes' "trust" argument live, on national TV. He makes Jamie Dukes look like a complete fool.

Keep talking out of your ass Dukes!ROFL

There's not a damn thing in either link you posted that has Rod Smith even discussing whether or not McDaniels is a lying weasel. He's more of a Donkey Homer than you are, and he has a right to be. But he's nowhere near objective.

Der Flöprer
07-18-2009, 10:20 PM
Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Cooooooooooooooome Ooooooooooooooooooonnn. If you don't hope for the blood of your enemies, you're not devoted to your cause.

PHOG
07-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Keep talking

The Bad Guy
07-18-2009, 10:27 PM
Almost as miserable a life as Jamie Dukes who has nothing better to "report" about than month-old articles...

... but not quite as miserable a life as Chiefs fans who have nothing better to hope for or expect than the demise of their rivals.

Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

Der Flöprer
07-18-2009, 10:28 PM
Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

LMAO Don't chuck the Mane up to Orange. They're the WPI of Broncodom as far as he's concerned.

That's still one of the best lines I've heard around here.

Raised On Riots
07-18-2009, 10:29 PM
Cooooooooooooooome Ooooooooooooooooooonnn. If you don't hope for the blood of your enemies, you're not devoted to your cause.

Don't forget retribution. They've got a SHITLOAD of that headed their way.

orange
07-18-2009, 10:31 PM
Get off your high horse. If the Chiefs were in this position, you'd be laughing it up with all the other douchebags on OrangeMane.

I'd be laughing at current miseries, but this is old hash.

My horse bronco isn't all that high - not lately, anyway.

BigRock
07-19-2009, 01:52 AM
I was wondering, I know you were in Dove Valley at one of the mandatory practices, what are your impressions of Josh McDaniels, and how is the team responding to him?

WOW! Tell us more, Rod Smith!

BossChief
07-19-2009, 03:15 AM
Knowmo, you fail to mention Marshall on nfln and when they asked him about if he expects to be traded how big of a smile he gave and then reverted to "my agent takes care of all that stuff" ....or when they asked him if he would be wearing #15 for the Broncos and he responded by saying "I can say Ill definatly be wearing #15" lol.....or when they asked him about trading Cutler and he said something like "losing a probowl quarterback is never good" instead of sticking up for the new qb...or when they asked him how he would feel now that his stats will go down because of a dropoff at qb and he didnt say anything, just smiled again. Like he is still shellshocked about the whole deal.

Id give up a 2 and change for the kid...

Von Dumbass
07-19-2009, 03:37 AM
Knowmo, you fail to mention Marshall on nfln and when they asked him about if he expects to be traded how big of a smile he gave and then reverted to "my agent takes care of all that stuff" ....or when they asked him if he would be wearing #15 for the Broncos and he responded by saying "I can say Ill definatly be wearing #15" lol.....or when they asked him about trading Cutler and he said something like "losing a probowl quarterback is never good" instead of sticking up for the new qb...or when they asked him how he would feel now that his stats will go down because of a dropoff at qb and he didnt say anything, just smiled again. Like he is still shellshocked about the whole deal.

Id give up a 2 and change for the kid...

You also failed to mention him calling Orton a "Great QB" :hmmm:

Mile High Mania
07-19-2009, 06:56 AM
There's nothing new in this initial post... it's the same thing Dukes says on every espisode of NFLA.

the Talking Can
07-19-2009, 07:04 AM
so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

Mile High Mania
07-19-2009, 07:06 AM
so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

I'm saying that this stuff from Dukes has been commented on already... when I clicked on the thread that was created yesterday, I was expecting something new.

the Talking Can
07-19-2009, 07:13 AM
I'm saying that this stuff from Dukes has been commented on already... when I clicked on the thread that was created yesterday, I was expecting something new.

i just hadn't heard the bit about lying about meeting with marshall

seems like a pointless lie to tell.....

without McTeenager this offseason would infinitely less fun for Chiefs fans...

The Bad Guy
07-19-2009, 10:51 AM
You also failed to mention him calling Orton a "Great QB" :hmmm:

Tony Gonzalez called Tyler Thigpen a great QB too.

orange
07-19-2009, 10:57 AM
so, McDaniels has admitted to lying to his players?

i just hadn't heard the bit about lying about meeting with marshall

seems like a pointless lie to tell.....

without McTeenager this offseason would infinitely less fun for Chiefs fans...

McDaniels didn't lie. Dukes is an idiot.

Here's the original from Williamson:

Broncos coach Josh McDaniels would not say whether Marshall requested a trade, but he told ESPN's Ed Werder on Tuesday that internal meetings conducted after the holdout receiver's discussions with Bowlen suggest Denver plans to keep the player.

"We met after Pat's meeting with Brandon Marshall, and we've decided that we will continue to have a dialogue with Brandon and his representative, but we are looking forward to having Brandon at training camp," McDaniels said to Werder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4261327

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And here's the scandalous "admission" according to Dukes:

Presented with the report, McDaniels admitted that he DID NOT meet with Marshall.

Which was ACTUALLY this:
* When Fox 31 Sports asked Josh McDaniels if he followed through on his statement yesterday at practice that he was meeting with Marshall later on that day, McDaniels admitted today he in fact did not meet with his disgruntled pro bowl wide receiver Friday. McDaniels now confirms that Marshall only met with owner Pat Bowlen.

http://community.kdvr.com/_BRONCOS-BRIEF-MCDANIELS-DID-NOT-MEET-WITH-MARSHALL-ORTON/blog/347692/96399.html


So, McDaniels "admitted" he never had a meeting with Marshall THAT HE NEVER CLAIMED HE HAD.

Chocolate Hog
07-19-2009, 03:24 PM
Hey Orange go get my some coffee. The Broncos are our bitches, LJ should pimp slap DJ Williams.

orange
07-19-2009, 03:33 PM
Hey Orange go get my some coffee. The Broncos are our bitches, LJ should pimp slap DJ Williams.

Don't be ridiculous - LJ only hits girls.

Der Flöprer
07-19-2009, 03:51 PM
Don't be ridiculous - LJ only hits girls.

Douche. I mean, touche! :D

orange
07-19-2009, 04:12 PM
Douche. I mean, touche! :D

Douche' in other words.

I like it. Let's see if we can't make that the next great Internet meme.

:evil:

Der Flöprer
07-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Douche' in other words.

I like it. Let's see if we can't make that the next great Internet meme.

:evil:

I've been using that for years, but only around here. Milkman told me he only refers to it as doo shay now.

Von Dumbass
07-20-2009, 05:06 AM
I like head coach Josh McDaniels. He is a stand up guy and is up front and to the point. He lets you know what’s on his mind, he’s honest and tells you things straight. He tells you like it is, and doesn’t hold back. I like that. He’s a winner.

From Ronald Fields' blog (http://affiliate.kickapps.com/_Summer-Camp/BLOG/431208/107659.html?widgetId=189755).

The Bad Guy
07-20-2009, 10:17 AM
From Ronald Fields' blog (http://affiliate.kickapps.com/_Summer-Camp/BLOG/431208/107659.html?widgetId=189755).

What is a guy who is fighting for a roster spot going to come out and say?

Are you 15 years old?

Raised On Riots
07-20-2009, 01:10 PM
The new Donko "Fan In Denial" Anthem:

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Von Dumbass
07-20-2009, 03:50 PM
What is a guy who is fighting for a roster spot going to come out and say?

Are you 15 years old?

He is a lock to make the roster. Mike Nolan brought him from San Francisco to play NT for us.