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Mr. Plow
07-20-2009, 12:07 PM
Headed to Boston tomorrow for a conference. I won't have a lot of free time, but wanted to get some suggestions on "must see" things.

I will essentially have all afternoon/evening tomorrow, and then Wed & Thur evening to do some stuff.

So, what say you Planet.....what are some things I should definitely do or see.

Gonzo
07-20-2009, 12:10 PM
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Frazod
07-20-2009, 12:11 PM
Go see the Constitution.

stumppy
07-20-2009, 12:20 PM
It's been many years since I stayed there and then for only 4 months. One of the things I still remember to this day was the food. If you get a chance make the run up to Gloucester (sp?). There used to be some of the best restaraunts on the wharf. Most of them were right on the water and had great views. My favorite at the time was Captain Courageous. The lobster was the best in the world.There were some nice local shops too.
If you're going to just hang around Boston take advantage of some of the historical sites.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:23 PM
A few standard tourist-y things:

1. Duck Boat tour. A cool and innovative tour of Boston.

http://www.bostonducktours.com/

2. Walking the Boston Freedom Trail -- which is a self-guided walking tour of Boston's history, which obviously focuses on the Revolutionary War era.

http://www.thefreedomtrail.org/

3. For one offs, I'd suggest the USS Constitution as probably the most interesting single item. I've never understood either Harvard Yard or Faneuil Hall as tourist sites. Harvard Yard is, after all, a bunch of grass, and Faneuil Hall is a really old building that is now full of shops and junk. Whoop-de-doo.

4. The John Hancock Tower observatory is closed, but you can go to the top of the Prudential to get a good look around on a clear day.

5. Boston has a very good science museum and aquarium, if you're into those, and the Museum of Fine Arts is very good. We don't have a zoo worth the name, however, really.

Great Expectations
07-20-2009, 12:25 PM
Fenway


Eat at the original Legal Seafood

Frazod
07-20-2009, 12:25 PM
Amnorix, did they ever improve the Cheers (Bull & Finch) Bar? I dedicated an entire evening to finding/seeing that about 20 years ago and it was one of the biggest let-downs of my life.

Pioli Zombie
07-20-2009, 12:26 PM
Harvard Square is fun. Chinatown is a must. Newbury Street too.
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CoMoChief
07-20-2009, 12:34 PM
Eat some good seafood while up there. That never disappoints.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 12:40 PM
Headed to Boston tomorrow for a conference. I won't have a lot of free time, but wanted to get some suggestions on "must see" things.

I will essentially have all afternoon/evening tomorrow, and then Wed & Thur evening to do some stuff.

So, what say you Planet.....what are some things I should definitely do or see.

Wow. Where to start.

The transportation system in Boston is pretty efficient. Just stay off the lower part of the Orange Line: that's the bad section of town.

Faneuil Hall Marketplace is a bunch of overrated shops; the Hall itself is a historic building. It's a good spot to start a walk. Get off at Government Center and walk down the stairs to Faneuil Hall. Then go back up the stairs and left, down Tremont Street, past the burial ground (some famous people in there, can't remember who, might be Paul Revere and John Hancock). Keep walking to the Public Gardens and Boston Common. Take a left onto Boyleston and walk up to Copley Square (Trinity Church, and both the John Hancock Building and Prudential Center have observation decks, for a fee). Check out the upscale Coplay Place mall, then keep walking down to the Prudential Mall. Cut over to Newbury Street (electic shops) and then walk down and to the right, and left under the highway into Kenmore Square (student area and Fenway Park). Once you see the outside of Fenway, walk up Beacon Street to Chef Chang's House, the best Chinese food on the planet. :)

Harvard Square (accessible by the Red Line) is neat to check out, big student area. You can also walk up and down the Charles River on either the Boston or Cambridge side; the Cambridge side's prettier (goes from Harvard to MIT and down to the Museum of Science and has views of the skyline).

Historical sites: Bunker Hill Monument (it's just an obelisk, really). USS Constitution is cool. Freedom Trail and Paul Revere's House.

The New England Aquarium and Boston Museum of Science have nothing really unique.

If you have a car, you can drive up through Lexington and Concord, or up to Salem and Gloucester/Rockport. All worth a look-see. In Gloucester is one of my favorite buildings on earth, Hammond Castle.

Down south, in my neck of the woods, you have Providence (where I work at the IMAX) as well as Newport RI (mansions). An hour farther out are Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun (Indian casinos in CT).

Cape Cod's overrated IMO. A tourist trap with sand.

I think Legal Sea Foods is overrated, too, as is the Bull and Finch (Cheers bar, and any of the knockoffs) and Durgin Park in Faneuil Hall. The Union Oyster House near Faneuil Hall is pricey but decent, and it's a cool old building. Check out the Holocaust Memorial in front of it, pretty moving.

Revere Beach (Blue Line) is just north of town and has awesome fried fish at Kelly's.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Boston has a very good science museum and aquarium, if you're into those, and the Museum of Fine Arts is very good. We don't have a zoo worth the name, however, really.

Ooh, forgot about the MFA, good call. I love that place. I disagree with the Aquarium and Science Museum, though, neither are really outstanding. They're solid but expensive, and if you've seen another big city's version there's no need to go. (And I worked at the Museum of Science for 7 years, LOL.) The Zoo's much better now, and worth a trip if you like lions, tigers, or gorillas (their main animals).

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:44 PM
Amnorix, did they ever improve the Cheers (Bull & Finch) Bar? I dedicated an entire evening to finding/seeing that about 20 years ago and it was one of the biggest let-downs of my life.

Not a clue. I don't really go to bars. Never even been to the Bull & Finch. Sad, I know, but there it is.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:45 PM
Harvard Square is fun. Chinatown is a must. Newbury Street too.
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Well, Newbury Street is mostly high end shopping and high end restaurants. The restaurants maybe, but is he really interested in a Gucci store or whatever?

Harvard Square is fun. It's the YARD thing that throws me off.

Chinatown can be fun, but you sort of need to know your way around or have a host along, in my opinion.

Donger
07-20-2009, 12:47 PM
Boston: where history comes from.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:48 PM
Ooh, forgot about the MFA, good call. I love that place. I disagree with the Aquarium and Science Museum, though, neither are really outstanding. They're solid but expensive, and if you've seen another big city's version there's no need to go. (And I worked at the Museum of Science for 7 years, LOL.) The Zoo's much better now, and worth a trip if you like lions, tigers, or gorillas (their main animals).

I honestly haven't been to many other Aquariums, so I can't compare. Seems like ours is a solid one, however. Heck, it's a big tank with fish -- hard to imagine anybody else's being all that much better. Though it's not a Sea World, obviously.

Science Museum -- sure, other big cities are as good or better, but no idea how many/any of those he's seen.

MFA is good.

Zoo -- better but still sucks compared to the ones I like -- Philly and the National are much better. Heck, Roger Williams in Providence is still better than anything we have.

Frazod
07-20-2009, 12:48 PM
Not a clue. I don't really go to bars. Never even been to the Bull & Finch. Sad, I know, but there it is.

Well, when I went there it was a dark, dingy piece of shit - just a tourist dive. Looked nothing like the bar from the TV show. Took me an hour and a half to find it, then an hour to find a parking spot. I walked down the familiar stairs, opened the familiar door... and it was like an unfinished basement of an old house. I bought two shot glasses and a t-shirt and left. I didn't even bother to get a beer.

I hope it's not still like that, but I haven't been to Boston since '87.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:55 PM
The transportation system in Boston is pretty efficient. Just stay off the lower part of the Orange Line: that's the bad section of town.

Yes, public transit is quite good. Reasonably priced compared to other big cities.

Faneuil Hall Marketplace is a bunch of overrated shops;

BIG snip. Your walking tour is perfect.

Historical sites: Bunker Hill Monument (it's just an obelisk, really). USS Constitution is cool. Freedom Trail and Paul Revere's House.

Yeah, Bunker Hill. Bit of a yawner.

If you have a car, you can drive up through Lexington and Concord, or up to Salem and Gloucester/Rockport. All worth a look-see. In Gloucester is one of my favorite buildings on earth, Hammond Castle.

Down south, in my neck of the woods, you have Providence (where I work at the IMAX) as well as Newport RI (mansions). An hour farther out are Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun (Indian casinos in CT).

Cape Cod's overrated IMO. A tourist trap with sand.

I think Legal Sea Foods is overrated, too, as is the Bull and Finch (Cheers bar, and any of the knockoffs) and Durgin Park in Faneuil Hall. The Union Oyster House near Faneuil Hall is pricey but decent, and it's a cool old building. Check out the Holocaust Memorial in front of it, pretty moving.

Revere Beach (Blue Line) is just north of town and has awesome fried fish at Kelly's.

I'll let you speak to bars as I know naught of them. :D

Driving -- be warned -- Boston and region driving signage sucks, so it's not easy to get around. Traffic is bad and the drivers aggressive. Alot of out-of-towners don't like to drive in this area.

All that said -- Newport Rhode Island, Rockport/Gloucester are very cool places to go. For the casinos he mentioned, you're tlaking a solid 2-1/2 hour drive, so it's not a small undertaking to go to those.

Cooler and closer than those would be Foxboro Place or whatever it is -- Gillette Stadium, the Patriots Hall of Fame and a bunch of shopping, all done very well. It's about 40 or so minutes southwest of Boston. More or less on the way to Providence, and not too far out of the way if you're goint o Newport.

I love Newport. Great shops and food, and the mansions are stunning. If you can only see a couple, I like the Breakers and Rosecliff. If you can only see one, it's gotta be the Breakers.

http://www.newportmansions.org/

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 12:55 PM
Well, when I went there it was a dark, dingy piece of shit - just a tourist dive. Looked nothing like the bar from the TV show. Took me an hour and a half to find it, then an hour to find a parking spot. I walked down the familiar stairs, opened the familiar door... and it was like an unfinished basement of an old house. I bought two shot glasses and a t-shirt and left. I didn't even bother to get a beer.

I hope it's not still like that, but I haven't been to Boston since '87.

Might still be. Cadmonkey was probably there last night. :D

Mr. Plow
07-20-2009, 12:58 PM
I knew there is going to be a shit ton to see/do in Boston. The duck tours thing looks pretty cool. Might be a quick, easy way to see all the sites and then still have some time left over to do a bit on our own.

Luckily, I'll be back in Boston next year with more time to waste....this year is just a quick trip with little free time.

Thanks for all the suggestions....keep 'em coming.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 01:17 PM
I knew there is going to be a shit ton to see/do in Boston. The duck tours thing looks pretty cool. Might be a quick, easy way to see all the sites and then still have some time left over to do a bit on our own.

Luckily, I'll be back in Boston next year with more time to waste....this year is just a quick trip with little free time.

Thanks for all the suggestions....keep 'em coming.

Honestly, if you only had time for one thing, then the Duck Tours might be about the best choice. It's fun, low effort, reasonably quick, and very interesting.

sodcat
07-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if the combat zone is still there.......

JD10367
07-20-2009, 01:47 PM
Zoo -- better but still sucks compared to the ones I like -- Philly and the National are much better. Heck, Roger Williams in Providence is still better than anything we have.

Roger Williams was good when I first got here, but then we shipped out two polar bears and the third one died. We've got a few elephants and giraffe, that's really it now. But I belong to the zoo, which is cool 'cause it gets me into Franklin Park for free as well as a bunch of other AZA zoos across America; I've been to zoos in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Tampa, Syracuse, Cleveland, etc.,., all for free. A great deal, if you like animals and you travel.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 01:54 PM
Driving -- be warned -- Boston and region driving signage sucks, so it's not easy to get around. Traffic is bad and the drivers aggressive. Alot of out-of-towners don't like to drive in this area.

Yeah, driving around Boston itself is a nightmare. When I worked at the Science Museum, tourists in the driveway would ask how to drive to Faneuil Hall, which is about a quarter-mile away, and I'd say, "I can walk it, and I can drive you there, but I can't really tell you how to drive yourself there," LOL. But the main highways are okay... as long as you don't try to use them between 7am-9:30am and 3pm-6:30pm. Out of those time zones, they're fine. If I have to go to Boston from Providence, I don't even bother driving, I just hop the commuter rail for $8, it's quicker at rush hour and a lot easier and safer. :)

I love Newport. Great shops and food, and the mansions are stunning. If you can only see a couple, I like the Breakers and Rosecliff. If you can only see one, it's gotta be the Breakers.

http://www.newportmansions.org/



Yeah, Rosecliff is my favorite, smaller than the others but very pretty inside. The Breakers is good as well, as is Marble House. I like the "well-built" end of the Cliff Walk, from the beach down.

seclark
07-20-2009, 01:55 PM
Please come to Boston for the springtime
I'm stayin' here with some friends and they've got lots of room
You can sell your paintings on the sidewalk
By a café where I hope to be workin' soon
Please come to Boston
She said no, would you come home to me

JD10367
07-20-2009, 01:57 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if the combat zone is still there.......

Alas, they cleaned it up years ago. As a kid I have fond memories of wandering the Combat Zone, going into the army-navy stores for weaponry and catching a chop-socky flick, and ogling the porn movie posters at the Pussycat Theater. :D

Supposedly, now, Providence is actually the place to go for a happy ending. There's some bizarre law on the books that allows indoor prostitution or something, and supposedly in downtown Providence there are dozens of massage parlors where you can get much more than a massage. :shrug: Damned if I've ever seen any, though, and downtown's pretty small and fairly safe... and, trust me, I've looked for them, LOL... We do have some decent strip clubs, the biggest name being the Foxy Lady (whose claim to fame is the weekly "Legs and Eggs" strip-breakfast). ;)

JD10367
07-20-2009, 01:59 PM
I knew there is going to be a shit ton to see/do in Boston. The duck tours thing looks pretty cool. Might be a quick, easy way to see all the sites and then still have some time left over to do a bit on our own.

Luckily, I'll be back in Boston next year with more time to waste....this year is just a quick trip with little free time.

Thanks for all the suggestions....keep 'em coming.

The Duck Tour is definitely neat, 'cause you get both the bus-type tour and then a quick river tour.

Just watch out for thrown batteries, someone nailed Pedro Martinez in the head with one at the Red Sox rolling rally in 2004 and he never forgave us, I think. :D

JD10367
07-20-2009, 02:01 PM
Speaking of duck tours, there are some cool Boston Harbor tours that run from the pier near the Aquarium, but I think they're all during the day and you'll be busy. Same goes for the whale watches that are run from that pier by a couple of organizations. Too bad, 'cause that would be something neat for you to do, and you probably don't see many whales in your home area. :)

Mr. Plow
07-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Speaking of duck tours, there are some cool Boston Harbor tours that run from the pier near the Aquarium, but I think they're all during the day and you'll be busy. Same goes for the whale watches that are run from that pier by a couple of organizations. Too bad, 'cause that would be something neat for you to do, and you probably don't see many whales in your home area. :)


Oh, I get to see plenty of whales. But around here we call it "taking one for the team".

KCChiefsMan
07-20-2009, 02:22 PM
Fenway


Eat at the original Legal Seafood

this

KCChiefsMan
07-20-2009, 02:23 PM
make sure you don't wander off in Roxbury or Roslindale, you have about a 70% chance of getting shot there.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 03:17 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if the combat zone is still there.......

It's not. Not in any meaningful sense, at least. They cleaned most of it up. I'm sure a hooker or three could be had in the area, or whatever, but it's no the complete den of iniquity that it once was.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 03:19 PM
Supposedly, now, Providence is actually the place to go for a happy ending. There's some bizarre law on the books that allows indoor prostitution or something, and supposedly in downtown Providence there are dozens of massage parlors where you can get much more than a massage. :shrug: Damned if I've ever seen any, though, and downtown's pretty small and fairly safe... and, trust me, I've looked for them, LOL... We do have some decent strip clubs, the biggest name being the Foxy Lady (whose claim to fame is the weekly "Legs and Eggs" strip-breakfast). ;)

I go to strip clubs even less often than bars, but from what I hear the Foxy Lady in Providence is better than any strip club in Boston.

Amnorix
07-20-2009, 03:20 PM
make sure you don't wander off in Roxbury or Roslindale, you have about a 70% chance of getting shot there.

Chances of that are about zero.

Wandering off that'a'way, not the getting shot part. It's not like they're in the main parts of town, or that you don't notice that you're heading in a direction you don't really want to be going in pretty quick...

Halfcan
07-20-2009, 03:40 PM
cheers

Halfcan
07-20-2009, 03:40 PM
boston tea party

JFK musuem

RJ
07-20-2009, 03:47 PM
make sure you don't wander off in Roxbury or Roslindale, you have about a 70% chance of getting shot there.


70%? They oughta do something about that. Maybe pass a law or something.

KCChiefsMan
07-20-2009, 04:15 PM
70%? They oughta do something about that. Maybe pass a law or something.

that's the way it is everywhere, we're only reactive to crime, not preventative.

KCChiefsMan
07-20-2009, 04:16 PM
Chances of that are about zero.

Wandering off that'a'way, not the getting shot part. It's not like they're in the main parts of town, or that you don't notice that you're heading in a direction you don't really want to be going in pretty quick...

I found myself in the projects on accident, I got out of there like a bat out of hell.

PunkinDrublic
07-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Go to a Haaavaad baah and beat up some fackin rich kids.

kcfanintitanhell
07-20-2009, 05:08 PM
As a tourist a couple years ago, the Duck Boat tour was great. Another thing that was fascinating was just walking around downtown and checking out those tiny cemetaries that are situated in between the big buildings.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 07:22 PM
make sure you don't wander off in Roxbury or Roslindale, you have about a 70% chance of getting shot there.

Probably more like 85% in Roxbury, 75% in Roslindale. Eastie and Southie are no slouches either. Nor is Chinatown, or downtown. Basically, when the sun sets, run like hell, the zombies come out. :D

Rain Man
07-20-2009, 07:26 PM
I've never been to Boston, so I envision it as a place where the men all wear tricorn hats and there are horses everywhere on the dirt streets. I bet it's changed since my history books were published, though.

Thig Lyfe
07-20-2009, 07:28 PM
Make sure you're not black before you go.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 07:32 PM
Chances of that are about zero.

Wandering off that'a'way, not the getting shot part. It's not like they're in the main parts of town, or that you don't notice that you're heading in a direction you don't really want to be going in pretty quick...

It's been a while, Amnorix, so see if these are accurate, LOL.

JD10367
07-20-2009, 07:38 PM
I've never been to Boston, so I envision it as a place where the men all wear tricorn hats and there are horses everywhere on the dirt streets. I bet it's changed since my history books were published, though.

That's actually a very interesting observation. It brings up something that struck me when I went to Europe. You read the travel brochures, and see the imagery in movies and novels, and you get a very romantic idea of the place. Then you get there, and you're sort of jarred by the fact that you're in a modern, bustling city. I went to Rome and Florence, and it felt bizarre, to have all this amazing history around me--palaces, ruins, churches--and yet the everyday Romans and Florentians (?) were bustling about in their tiny cars on the way to work. I wanted to shake them on the street and say, "My God! Look! That's the frigging COLISEUM fer crissake!" And you come to the realization that, when you seek history, you have to pick it out here and there from among the modernity of life. Being from Boston, I'd never thought about it, but I came back from Italy and told people, "I'm sure tourists picture Boston as a place where men with walking sticks and tricornered hats bow to each other in passing on the street, and they're probably disappointed to get here and find a congested, noisy, dirty, often polluted and crime-ridden modern city."

Mr. Plow
07-20-2009, 08:50 PM
Ok....maybe this would help. We are staying at the Sheraton Boston Hotel. Downtown - maybe called the Hynes Convention Center?

KC Dan
07-20-2009, 08:53 PM
Ok....maybe this would help. We are staying at the Sheraton Boston Hotel. Downtown - maybe called the Hynes Convention Center?Do me a favor and go piss on the new Boston Garden.

Pioli Zombie
07-20-2009, 09:22 PM
Wow. Where to start.

The transportation system in Boston is pretty efficient. Just stay off the lower part of the Orange Line: that's the bad section of town.

Faneuil Hall Marketplace is a bunch of overrated shops; the Hall itself is a historic building. It's a good spot to start a walk. Get off at Government Center and walk down the stairs to Faneuil Hall. Then go back up the stairs and left, down Tremont Street, past the burial ground (some famous people in there, can't remember who, might be Paul Revere and John Hancock). Keep walking to the Public Gardens and Boston Common. Take a left onto Boyleston and walk up to Copley Square (Trinity Church, and both the John Hancock Building and Prudential Center have observation decks, for a fee). Check out the upscale Coplay Place mall, then keep walking down to the Prudential Mall. Cut over to Newbury Street (electic shops) and then walk down and to the right, and left under the highway into Kenmore Square (student area and Fenway Park). Once you see the outside of Fenway, walk up Beacon Street to Chef Chang's House, the best Chinese food on the planet. :)

Harvard Square (accessible by the Red Line) is neat to check out, big student area. You can also walk up and down the Charles River on either the Boston or Cambridge side; the Cambridge side's prettier (goes from Harvard to MIT and down to the Museum of Science and has views of the skyline).

Historical sites: Bunker Hill Monument (it's just an obelisk, really). USS Constitution is cool. Freedom Trail and Paul Revere's House.

The New England Aquarium and Boston Museum of Science have nothing really unique.

If you have a car, you can drive up through Lexington and Concord, or up to Salem and Gloucester/Rockport. All worth a look-see. In Gloucester is one of my favorite buildings on earth, Hammond Castle.

Down south, in my neck of the woods, you have Providence (where I work at the IMAX) as well as Newport RI (mansions). An hour farther out are Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun (Indian casinos in CT).

Cape Cod's overrated IMO. A tourist trap with sand.

I think Legal Sea Foods is overrated, too, as is the Bull and Finch (Cheers bar, and any of the knockoffs) and Durgin Park in Faneuil Hall. The Union Oyster House near Faneuil Hall is pricey but decent, and it's a cool old building. Check out the Holocaust Memorial in front of it, pretty moving.

Revere Beach (Blue Line) is just north of town and has awesome fried fish at Kelly's.

That was so good you have made me quite homesick!!!
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JD10367
07-21-2009, 06:13 PM
I've been quite busy today in work, pulling a nice 16-hour double shift and assembling my IMAX print of "Harry Potter" (measuring a meager 94 reels of film... that wasn't an exaggeration, it's 94 reels, each one 10" across and weighing 10 pounds). But I've had the local news on, and I haven't heard any breaking stories about an out-of-towner with a Chiefs baseball cap being arrested for public intoxication or indecency... so I assume his visit is going okay so far. :D

Pablo
07-21-2009, 06:24 PM
You should wear a Yankees hat and a Bernard Pollard jersey any and everywhere.

Amnorix
08-19-2009, 03:37 PM
Headed to Boston tomorrow for a conference. I won't have a lot of free time, but wanted to get some suggestions on "must see" things.

I will essentially have all afternoon/evening tomorrow, and then Wed & Thur evening to do some stuff.

So, what say you Planet.....what are some things I should definitely do or see.

Hey, how did htis work out for you anyway???

Mr. Plow
08-19-2009, 05:42 PM
Hey, how did htis work out for you anyway???

Honestly, we ended up with less free time than I thought. Didn't get to see much at all. The one morning that we could have gotten up and done a few things, we got kind of drunk the night before and slept in.

Either way, we had a good time. And we are going to be back at the same conference next year and it's in Boston again. So, we are planning to go out at least a couple days early and staying a couple days longer to see the sites.....so all this info isn't going to go to waste.

Simply Red
08-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Headed to Boston tomorrow for a conference. I won't have a lot of free time, but wanted to get some suggestions on "must see" things.

I will essentially have all afternoon/evening tomorrow, and then Wed & Thur evening to do some stuff.

So, what say you Planet.....what are some things I should definitely do or see.

enjoy the crime. / some random CP hater.

Bearcat
08-20-2009, 04:21 AM
That's actually a very interesting observation. It brings up something that struck me when I went to Europe. You read the travel brochures, and see the imagery in movies and novels, and you get a very romantic idea of the place. Then you get there, and you're sort of jarred by the fact that you're in a modern, bustling city. I went to Rome and Florence, and it felt bizarre, to have all this amazing history around me--palaces, ruins, churches--and yet the everyday Romans and Florentians (?) were bustling about in their tiny cars on the way to work. I wanted to shake them on the street and say, "My God! Look! That's the frigging COLISEUM fer crissake!" And you come to the realization that, when you seek history, you have to pick it out here and there from among the modernity of life. Being from Boston, I'd never thought about it, but I came back from Italy and told people, "I'm sure tourists picture Boston as a place where men with walking sticks and tricornered hats bow to each other in passing on the street, and they're probably disappointed to get here and find a congested, noisy, dirty, often polluted and crime-ridden modern city."

LMAO

Rome is the perfect example, with it's mix of the ancient city and modern city, and I had the same feeling when I went there.

I was standing in the middle of a street last night in Paris (on a crosswalk island thing, not just randomly hanging out), and had a great shot of the Arc de Triomphe... so I took out my camera and took a shot, and a couple of other people did as well. It got me thinking about how the traffic around us was probably thinking "stupid f***ing tourists" because they drive by the thing everyday.