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RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:42 AM
I think tyson Jackson is gonna be a really good player. Our De's are fine, and judging from the posts I see alot here including myself are concerned about the NT position.

It'll be a weak point all year, unless, Tank Tyler can become really good for us? I hope so. If not, then there is always that position to fill next year. This team had a lot of holes to fill to begin with so its expected were still gonna have weaknesses on the team. Pioli is in year 1 of cleaning Carls mess he needs a couple of more years.

*Did Wilfork sign a new contract w/ the Pats?

The Bad Guy
08-17-2009, 09:43 AM
I don't think Wilfork did. I also don't think he ever hits the open market.

Just Passin' By
08-17-2009, 09:46 AM
Wilfork has not yet signed an extension.

DeezNutz
08-17-2009, 09:48 AM
I'd put the odds on the Pats letting a Pro Bowl NT walk at about 0.2%.

The position is too tough to fill.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:50 AM
I don't think Wilfork did. I also don't think he ever hits the open market.

You may be right. I think it'll all come down to the money. As most often is the case with alot of these guys.

He'd be really good to have. Any player that gets praise from Bill Belicheck says alot.

*They should push to get him if he's available, Id love to see it

Amnorix
08-17-2009, 09:51 AM
Wilfork has not signed an extension. Has made many noises about staying with Pats, but deal isn't done yet.

We drafted Ron Brace, who is a potential replacement, for leverage.

REally hope we don't lose him, but either he or Seymour is definitely gone after this year, IMHO.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:51 AM
I'd put the odds on the Pats letting a Pro Bowl NT walk at about 0.2%.

The position is too tough to fill.

$$$$ show it...The Chiefs have it.

DeezNutz
08-17-2009, 09:52 AM
$$$$ show it...The Chiefs have it.

NE will lock him up before the Chiefs could even get in the mix.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:52 AM
Wilfork has not signed an extension. Has made many noises about staying with Pats, but deal isn't done yet.

We drafted Ron Brace, who is a potential replacement, for leverage.

REally hope we don't lose him, but either he or Seymour is definitely gone after this year, IMHO.

Exactly, you will lose one or the other. Both guys are going to demand alot of coin. I hope its Wilfork you lose:p

Just Passin' By
08-17-2009, 09:57 AM
Exactly, you will lose one or the other. Both guys are going to demand alot of coin. I hope its Wilfork you lose:p

They don't have to lose anyone they don't want to, assuming money is the only issue. Next year is the uncapped year, and they'll still have the franchise tag available on top of that.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:58 AM
They don't have to lose anyone they don't want to. Next year is the uncapped year.

oh yeah right i forgot about that

Just Passin' By
08-17-2009, 10:03 AM
Just a follow up on Patriots players going to K.C.. The Patriots just cut a DB named Mike Richardson to bring in another RB. You might see Mike show up in K.C.. If so, he'll be just a bottom of the roster guy.

chiefzilla1501
08-17-2009, 10:07 AM
Raji was the guy I had pegged, but there were enough character concerns to justify passing. I would have liked Raji, but I'll trust Pioli on this one. I have a feeling that Raji is one of those guys who could eat his way out of the NFL. I dont' know why.

Pitt Gorilla
08-17-2009, 11:04 AM
What's the deal with Tank? Is it conditioning, attitude, understanding the new position, etc?

Basileus777
08-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Exactly, you will lose one or the other. Both guys are going to demand alot of coin. I hope its Wilfork you lose:p

New England would be stupid to pay Seymour. He's been nothing but mediocre the past few years.

ChiefGator
08-17-2009, 11:08 AM
I think tyson Jackson is gonna be a really good player. Our De's are fine, and judging from the posts I see alot here including myself are concerned about the NT position.

It'll be a weak point all year, unless, Tank Tyler can become really good for us? I hope so. If not, then there is always that position to fill next year. This team had a lot of holes to fill to begin with so its expected were still gonna have weaknesses on the team. Pioli is in year 1 of cleaning Carls mess he needs a couple of more years.

*Did Wilfork sign a new contract w/ the Pats?

You ask a good question... and then give it a good answer.... :)

Many many holes... Just hope we are in the right position in the draft for a good NT next year and that there is someone there that Pioli likes. With more and more teams moving to 3-4, the NT is a more and more coveted big body.

Dave Lane
08-17-2009, 11:20 AM
What's the deal with Tank? Is it conditioning, attitude, understanding the new position, etc?

Its getting blasted by 2-3 guys on every play. Its the hardest position there is. Bar none. You need strength, mass and leverage and an attitude. Its hard to develop while you are being mauled

Fish
08-17-2009, 11:21 AM
What's the deal with Tank? Is it conditioning, attitude, understanding the new position, etc?

I think Tank needs stronger legs. His upper body is strong enough to bench press a dump truck. But he doesn't have a strong enough base to hold his position.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 11:59 AM
New England would be stupid to pay Seymour. He's been nothing but mediocre the past few years.

Sorry have to disagree.

Seymour is awesome.

He was in his prime when NE won bowls, prolly not as good as he used to be, but I still think he is a factor in that defense.

id take him over anyone we have on the line at this point.

Chief Faithful
08-17-2009, 12:02 PM
Raji was the guy I had pegged, but there were enough character concerns to justify passing. I would have liked Raji, but I'll trust Pioli on this one. I have a feeling that Raji is one of those guys who could eat his way out of the NFL. I dont' know why.

I watched the Bucs play Saturday and they have a DT named Sims that looks like he has eaten his way out of the NFL.

suds79
08-17-2009, 12:03 PM
I think Tank needs stronger legs. His upper body is strong enough to bench press a dump truck. But he doesn't have a strong enough base to hold his position.

I think i heard after all the weight the team lost during this off-season, he's down to 303 or something... That just won't cut it at NT.

But if he were to add 2, 3 or say 30 more pounds, we'd be set. :P

CoMoChief
08-17-2009, 12:06 PM
Man if we landed Wilfork (something Carl would NEVER do) that would be nuts.

Then next season we focus on FA/draftees for OL, LB (both inside and outside) and WR

Ultra Peanut
08-17-2009, 04:48 PM
Anyone who's even pretending to imagine that we could land Wilfork is doing some serious junk.

OctoberFart
08-17-2009, 05:05 PM
What's the deal with Tank? Is it conditioning, attitude, understanding the new position, etc?

Nothings wrong with him he plays just like he did in college. He is super strong in the gym but plays high with terrible technique and gets pushed around a lot. He was the blocking dummy at the senior bowl and was getting owned by soon to be college offensive linemen.

B_Ambuehl
08-17-2009, 05:05 PM
The Pats have 2 young defensive tackles in Ron Brace and Myron Pryor that are both looking exceptional thus far. I know it's preseason, but given the impressive youngsters and the Pats history with re-signing free agents I'd be surprised if they keep Wilfork.

sedated
08-17-2009, 08:18 PM
I was all for the Raji pick in the draft, especially knowing (in hindsight) that we got a pretty good 3-4 DE prospect in the 3rd round.

If running the 3-4, I'd rather use the 3rd overall pick on a NT over a DE.

Tribal Warfare
08-17-2009, 08:58 PM
Terrence Cody shall be the target player in the '10 draft.

aturnis
08-17-2009, 09:10 PM
What's the deal with Tank? Is it conditioning, attitude, understanding the new position, etc?

I think he's the same as DBowe. He's obviously playing well, just not doing it the way the coach's want. Even if you do it your way and do it well, you ain't gonna start on this team. Just give it time, if he doesn't get it by the first game, I'd imagine he'll buy in a few games in.

I have a feeling the guys who aren't playing b/c they aren't doing as their told know why they aren't playing. Is not starting the punishment for DBowe? Or is it that he has to see his actions are hurting the offense, therefore hurting the team. Not to mention the attitudes of the guys around him if he continues to be stubborn and hurt the team.

aturnis
08-17-2009, 09:13 PM
Sorry have to disagree.

Seymour is awesome.

He was in his prime when NE won bowls, prolly not as good as he used to be, but I still think he is a factor in that defense.

id take him over anyone we have on the line at this point.

Well duh. That's not a hard statement to make, also doesn't make him better than mediocre.

RedThat
08-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Well duh. That's not a hard statement to make, also doesn't make him better than mediocre.

LMAO I know.

He is better then mediocre cmon.