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RINGLEADER
08-18-2009, 09:33 AM
WASHINGTON White House spokesman Robert Gibbs insists the Obama administration has not shifted its goals on health care reform or distanced itself from a government-run public insurance option.

He said in a meeting with reporters Tuesday morning that news stories suggesting that the administration was ready to abandon the public option as it battles to push health care reform through were overblown. The rash of reports began after Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius (seh-BEEL'-yuhs) appeared to signal the president was open to health care cooperatives as an alternative.

Gibbs said there was no intention to indicate a change in policy. He said, "If it was a signal, it was a dog whistle we started blowing weeks ago."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jdIOrJQWRsFj21RqHyaA16KhlB7gD9A5BIP00

Plus we get this from seh-BEEL'-yuhs herself this morning:

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius today says nothing has changed; the Obama administration still supports a public option in health care reform.

She delivered that message in a DC speech on Medicare fraud. Over the weekend, administration officials appeared to soften support for a public option. That provoked a furious response from liberal Democrats.

Sunday, Sebelius said a public option is not the essential element in overall health care reform.

She argued that the most important element is choice and competition.

Clarifying her remarks in the Medicare speech, Sebelius said, quote, "Absolutely nothing has changed; we continue to support the public option." She insisted that it will help lower costs, promote choice and keep private health insurance companies honest.

Republicans and some moderate-to-conservative Democratic lawmakers are opposed to a public option.

The idea has generated a firestorm of controversy among conservatives.

Critics charge it would lead to a government takeover of the U.S. health care system.

Supporters of aggressive health care reform accuse critics of fueling opposition with misinformation.

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=177091

Donger
08-18-2009, 09:35 AM
LMAO

This is becoming comical.

wild1
08-18-2009, 09:38 AM
Just when you thought the government couldn't be any less competent than it was before, here comes the DNC triumvirate of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi to lower the bar again.

Cue the Benny Hill music

BigRedChief
08-18-2009, 09:40 AM
you really think it was Pelosi? give me a break....There are many members of his base that he promised a public option. They are the ones that caused the shift, not Pelosi. Sny politician that ignores his base does so at its own peril

memyselfI
08-18-2009, 09:41 AM
Good to know he's pussy, er, Pelosi whipped.

Baby Lee
08-18-2009, 09:42 AM
The only way they're going to get this is to make every effort to make it a true competitor, not a government tool.
Completely self funding and completely voluntary participation/nonparticipation.

petegz28
08-18-2009, 09:44 AM
LMAO

LMAO

LMAO

LMAO


This Administration is hillarious...

RINGLEADER
08-18-2009, 09:46 AM
you really think it was Pelosi? give me a break....There are many members of his base that he promised a public option. They are the ones that caused the shift, not Pelosi. Sny politician that ignores his base does so at its own peril

Umm...okay...when Obama backtracks from his backtrack of the first backtrack you can try selling that again.....

RINGLEADER
08-18-2009, 09:47 AM
The only way they're going to get this is to make every effort to make it a true competitor, not a government tool.
Completely self funding and completely voluntary participation/nonparticipation.

Exactly.

memyselfI
08-18-2009, 09:49 AM
LMAO

LMAO

LMAO

LMAO


This Administration is hillarious...

Perhaps this is their strategy. Kill people off by having them laugh themselves to death. Thereby lessening both the opposition and the costs of covering those people. :hmmm:

petegz28
08-18-2009, 09:50 AM
The only way they're going to get this is to make every effort to make it a true competitor, not a government tool.
Completely self funding and completely voluntary participation/nonparticipation.

Yep. Forcing this upon people is pure bullshit. Regulating private insurance out of business is also, pure bullshit.


This bill is nothing more than a power grab. And most people know it.

Donger
08-18-2009, 09:54 AM
The only way they're going to get this is to make every effort to make it a true competitor, not a government tool.
Completely self funding and completely voluntary participation/nonparticipation.

But that doesn't give the Democrats any more power, does it?

petegz28
08-18-2009, 09:57 AM
We were for the public option before we were against it before we were for it....

and I thought Bush was a moron...

thecoffeeguy
08-18-2009, 10:29 AM
LMAO

LMAO

LMAO

LMAO


This Administration is hillarious...

Understatement. This administration is a complete joke...

patteeu
08-18-2009, 11:09 AM
The only way they're going to get this is to make every effort to make it a true competitor, not a government tool.
Completely self funding and completely voluntary participation/nonparticipation.

What would be the point of doing that?

patteeu
08-18-2009, 11:11 AM
Assuming that they can't strong arm enough democrat votes to pass this, it may just be a negotiating position so that they can look like they've really compromised when they finally accept the stealth-public coop option later.

Baby Lee
08-18-2009, 11:16 AM
What would be the point of doing that?

http://thesunkissedtanningsalon.com/cart/images/SavingFace.jpg

mlyonsd
08-18-2009, 11:29 AM
Cue the Benny Hill music

This.

Taco John
08-18-2009, 11:31 AM
Two words come to mind:

Wish and wash

trndobrd
08-18-2009, 11:48 AM
Herein lies the problem with the Obama administration, there is no plan. On healthcare the administration did not provide outlines of what the Whitehouse wanted. The administration provided no guidance, at least none that the Congressional democrats cared to follow, on the stimulus. No one has a clue about the Obama administration's position on climate change legislation.

Instead of making Congress use a divining rod to figure out the ever administration's ever changing positions from campaign like speeches and press conferences, the Whitehouse should hammer out the framework of legislation, then sell it to the American people. If the President were leading, there would be only one House bill for healthcare, one bill for cap and trade, and the stimulus....well, it would have been an all out pork fest anyway.

Obama is trying to vote 'present', in the hopes of running out in front of the band in 2012 right as they turn on to Main Street and convince America that he is calling the tune.

Donger
08-18-2009, 11:50 AM
Obama is trying to vote 'present'

I was just thinking the exact same thing. We all tried to warn his followers during the campaign that he had no executive experience, but they wouldn't listen.

RINGLEADER
08-18-2009, 11:56 AM
I was just thinking the exact same thing. We all tried to warn his followers during the campaign that he had no executive experience, but they wouldn't listen.

It's part and parcel of his politicking...he likes to say things like "As I've said before" before making statements that are completely at odds with what he truly advocates. This is just another example.