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dtebbe
08-18-2009, 10:32 PM
Man, it's starting to sound a LOT like the Broncos are quickly becoming Raiders North. I hate to see it... well not really.

How long will it be until we see Bowen trade his pin-striped pimp suit for a sweat suit? ROFL

DT

salame
08-18-2009, 10:33 PM
well
they are a lot less talented than oakland
so maybe it was a total roll reversal

88TG88
08-18-2009, 10:46 PM
well
they are a lot less talented than oakland
so maybe it was a total roll reversal

Meh, their suck is pretty even.

chiefbowe82
08-18-2009, 11:35 PM
great year to be a dolts fan

POND_OF_RED
08-19-2009, 12:40 AM
great year to be a dolts fan

They sure seem excited about the season too. Have they sold out any games yet or are they still looking at blackouts? To be fair I don't know how excited I'd be about buying season tickets when nearly half of the home games are against the Raiders, Chiefs, and Broncos. It's not even going to be a fun season for the AFCW.

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 02:11 AM
Bowlen has run THE BEST organization in all of sports since he got here. I don't think any NFL team has won more games than Denver since Bowlen got here.

Denver is not imploding.

MoreLemonPledge
08-19-2009, 02:14 AM
Bowlen has run THE BEST organization in all of sports since he got here. I don't think any NFL team has won more games than Denver since Bowlen got here.

Denver is not imploding.

HAHAHAHA

The Patriots would disagree.

So would the Steelers.

I'm sure the Colts would have something to say about that, too.

Eagles would be pissed to hear that.

POND_OF_RED
08-19-2009, 02:20 AM
Bowlen has run THE BEST organization in all of sports since he got here. I don't think any NFL team has won more games than Denver since Bowlen got here.

Denver is not imploding.

I'm sure Raiders fans felt the same way about Al Davis until he went bat shit crazy. Give it a few years...

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 02:24 AM
HAHAHAHA

The Patriots would disagree.

So would the Steelers.

I'm sure the Colts would have something to say about that, too.

Eagles would be pissed to hear that.

Those teams have had a lot of success the past 10 years. But Denver went to 3 SB's in the 80's, two SB's in the 90's, and had good teams in the 2000's we just never could get over the hump.

The Steelers were a .500 team in the 80's.

The Colts were one of the worst franchises in the NFL from 1980 until they drafted Peyton Manning.

The Eagles have only went to 1 SB in the past, what 30 years???

Denver has been a first class organization for over 25 years.

POND_OF_RED
08-19-2009, 02:54 AM
I don't think any NFL team has won more games than Denver since Bowlen got here.


The 49ers have won more games even counting the last 5 dreadful years. They also have won 4 super bowls in that time. You should have just left it at this:

I don't think

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 03:16 AM
The 49ers have won more games even counting the last 5 dreadful years. They also have won 4 super bowls in that time. You should have just left it at this:

Denver has won 243 regular season games since 1984. The 49ers have won 239 regular season games since 1984.

SF and Denver are actually tied overall the past 25 years including playoff wins.

LaChapelle
08-19-2009, 04:08 AM
I never thought of the Raider's as gay. Thugs perhaps. The mile high salute and the in-com-plete chant are another story.

InChiefsHell
08-19-2009, 05:56 AM
Dungver is not the Raiders. Totally different animal. Totally worthy of hate, but a different animal nonetheless. I think given the choice, any NFL athlete would rather be a Donk that a Faider...for whatever the hell that's worth...

Buck
08-19-2009, 07:10 AM
Wouldn't it be Raiders East?
great year to be a dolts fan

Any year is a great year when you have Rivers, LT, Sproles, Gates, Jackson, Chambers, Good O-Line, Jamal Williams, Castillo, Merriman, Phillips, etc.

brophog
08-19-2009, 07:15 AM
I don't think any NFL team has won more games than Denver since Bowlen got here.



You do that by having a coach that can win year in and year out.


And last I heard, he was sippin' a Pina Colada on a beach somewhere.

brophog
08-19-2009, 07:16 AM
Any year is a great year when you have Rivers, LT, Sproles, Gates, Jackson, Chambers, Good O-Line, Jamal Williams, Castillo, Merriman, Phillips, etc.

Don't forget Norv Turner.

Skip Towne
08-19-2009, 07:21 AM
Don't forget Norv Turner.

I already forgot him.

Buck
08-19-2009, 07:24 AM
Don't forget Norv Turner.

I already forgot him.

Norv Turner has won more playoff games in his tenure in San Diego than the Chiefs have since 1991.

Skip Towne
08-19-2009, 07:28 AM
Norv Turner has won more playoff games in his tenure in San Diego than the Chiefs have since 1991.

Who hasn't?

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 07:30 AM
Raiders north? That's a bit of a reach.

Buck
08-19-2009, 07:32 AM
How many coaches have won 3 playoff games in the last 2 years?

Mike Tomlin, Ken Wisenhunt, Tom Coughlin, Norv Turner

CHIEFS58
08-19-2009, 07:36 AM
more like raiders northeast. besides, who gives a damn? they both can go to hell. coincidentally, al davis runs that place too.

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 07:38 AM
How many coaches have won 3 playoff games in the last 2 years?

Mike Tomlin, Ken Wisenhunt, Tom Coughlin, Norv Turner

And, 3 of those coaches have won Conference titles... 2 won SBs. Which one is not like the others?

Oh and Norv also only has 4 seasons (of his 11) with more wins than losses. He's stellar! One day he hopes to be like Marty... once he reaches that point, his goal is to be Dan Reeves or Marv Levy.

Buck
08-19-2009, 07:40 AM
And, 3 of those coaches have won Conference titles... 2 won SBs. Which one is not like the others?

And also one of them had an injured starting QB (1 year), RB (2 years), TE (2 years), Stud OLB (1 year), yet still managed to win 3 games.

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 07:44 AM
And also one of them had an injured starting QB (1 year), RB (2 years), TE (2 years), Stud OLB (1 year), yet still managed to win 3 games.

Every season, every team has injury issues.

Buck
08-19-2009, 07:45 AM
Every season, every team has injury issues.

But they don't all win 3 playoff games.

I don't know many people who don't think that a healthy Chargers team would have beat the Pats in 2007-08.

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 07:52 AM
And also one of them had an injured starting QB (1 year), RB (2 years), TE (2 years), Stud OLB (1 year), yet still managed to win 3 games.

But they don't all win 3 playoff games.

I don't know many people who don't think that a healthy Chargers team would have beat the Pats in 2007-08.

Ok, you point to an "injured QB 1 year"... Rivers has started 32 games in the last 2 seasons. So, sure - he may have had some issues, but again - every team has this stuff happen to them.

You point to the injured RB "2 years)... LT and Sproles have been fine from a production stand point the last 2 seasons. LT has started 32 games in the last 2 seasons.

Has LT been the freak of nature that he was earlier in his career? No, but he's been very productive - 2500 yds rushing / 110 recs / 800 yds rec / 30 total TDs the last 2 seasons.

Gates - again, started 32 games with over 1600 yds and 17 TDs the last 2 seasons.

So, stop crying... Norv hasn't been forced to bring a replacement crew to the playoffs.

Norv = Marty Jr ... just accept it.

brophog
08-19-2009, 07:56 AM
Norv Turner has won more playoff games in his tenure in San Diego than the Chiefs have since 1991.

I hope that helps you sleep at night when he keeps costing you games. Playoff games don't mean shit if they don't include trophies.

I'll donate to a lifetime contract if it makes you happy.

InChiefsHell
08-19-2009, 08:08 AM
I hope that helps you sleep at night when he keeps costing you games. Playoff games don't mean shit if they don't include trophies.

I'll donate to a lifetime contract if it makes you happy.

If any Chiefs coach would have won a playoff game in the last 15 years, we'd be hanging our hats on that too, FWIW.

Buck
08-19-2009, 08:08 AM
Ok, you point to an "injured QB 1 year"... Rivers has started 32 games in the last 2 seasons. So, sure - he may have had some issues, but again - every team has this stuff happen to them.

You point to the injured RB "2 years)... LT and Sproles have been fine from a production stand point the last 2 seasons. LT has started 32 games in the last 2 seasons.

Has LT been the freak of nature that he was earlier in his career? No, but he's been very productive - 2500 yds rushing / 110 recs / 800 yds rec / 30 total TDs the last 2 seasons.

Gates - again, started 32 games with over 1600 yds and 17 TDs the last 2 seasons.

So, stop crying... Norv hasn't been forced to bring a replacement crew to the playoffs.

Norv = Marty Jr ... just accept it.

Really? Sure they were fine in the regular season but in the playoffs, Rivers played with a torn ACL, I thought this was common knowledge?

Tomlinson had to sit out both years in the playoffs because of a Sprained Knee in 07, and a TORN GROIN in 08. Gates had a sprained toe in the 07 playoffs (hard to run), and a case of plantar fasciitis last year. Merriman was obviously out all year last year.

Our injuries have hit us during the playoffs the last 2 years.

brophog
08-19-2009, 08:14 AM
If any Chiefs coach would have won a playoff game in the last 15 years, we'd be hanging our hats on that too, FWIW.

Not me. I have more than half a brain. If the rest of you want to play these silly little games, be my guest. People that get all happy about winning a playoff game a year are the same folks that set their standards low enough to never do anything more than that.

A playoff game don't mean shit. Never has. Never will. If it meant anything, they'd give you a trophy for it.

Buck
08-19-2009, 08:16 AM
Not me. I have more than half a brain. If the rest of you want to play these silly little games, be my guest. People that get all happy about winning a playoff game a year are the same folks that set their standards low enough to never do anything more than that.

A playoff game don't mean shit. Never has. Never will. If it meant anything, they'd give you a trophy for it.

That might be easy for you to say, considering your team has won a Super Bowl.

The Chargers haven't ever won one. They won an AFL Championship 23 years before I was born, but its not easy for me to be proud of that.

Sure I want a Super Bowl more than anything else, but only 1 team can win every year. I'd rather have playoff wins and be able to have good memories for the rest of my life than having to think about all the shitty years we had.

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 08:21 AM
Charger fans complaining about injuries is pathetic. They only made the playoffs last year because of the injuries Denver had last year.

Buck
08-19-2009, 08:23 AM
Charger fans complaining about injuries is pathetic. They only made the playoffs last year because of the injuries Denver had last year.

Yeah your guys QB had an injured pussy.

Guaranteed if Merriman was there all year it wouldn't have even been close.

Not to mention the only reason you guys were in it is because of Hochuli.

InChiefsHell
08-19-2009, 08:25 AM
Charger fans complaining about injuries is pathetic. They only made the playoffs last year because of the injuries Denver had last year.

Even though Denver was given a win last year by Mr. Hochuli...if that game went the way it should have, the Bolts would have been 9-7 and easily in first place of the shittiest division in football.

brophog
08-19-2009, 08:30 AM
That might be easy for you to say, considering your team has won a Super Bowl.

The Chargers haven't ever won one. They won an AFL Championship 23 years before I was born, but its not easy for me to be proud of that.

Sure I want a Super Bowl more than anything else, but only 1 team can win every year. I'd rather have playoff wins and be able to have good memories for the rest of my life than having to think about all the shitty years we had.


"Ooh, we won one more game this season than someone else". That's not something to hang your hat on. Winning 14 games in a year, at least that gets you a fun ride till the end. But for too many Charger fans, winning 1 playoff game a year means more than winning 14 games and going on a fun ride that ended too soon.

People put a completely illogical amount of worth on winning a playoff game.

I got nothing against you, Buckin. I completely understand someone like you holding onto what you do have, simply because of something like age. It's the larger audience that has this absurd fascination with winning a playoff game in football (Charger fans are just easy targets due to so many being borderline obnoxious). I never hear anyone in another sport bragging about getting out of the first round. There is a slightly better chance of making the postseason in a league like the NBA, but the worth of a playoff win between the two leagues is still well out of proportion to the value fans place on it.

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 08:32 AM
Yeah your guys QB had an injured pussy.

Guaranteed if Merriman was there all year it wouldn't have even been close.

Not to mention the only reason you guys were in it is because of Hochuli.

Dude for a four or five week stretch we were missing our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string safeties, our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string LB's, we went threw 7 RB's, 2 TE's, Champ Bailey tore his groin week 5, Elvis Dumervil broke a bone in his hand the first game of the season, and Brandon Marshall was playing with an injured hip all season.

We were decimated by injuries last year.

Buck
08-19-2009, 08:36 AM
Dude for a four or five week stretch we were missing our 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string safeties, our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd string LB's, we went threw 7 RB's, 2 TE's, Champ Bailey tore his groin week 5, Elvis Dumervil broke a bone in his hand the first game of the season, and Brandon Marshall was playing with an injured hip all season.

We were decimated by injuries last year.

And your coach got fired, your QB demanded a trade, and your Stud WR is acting like a Douchebag.

Maybe your organization isn't being ran that well.

By the way, those injuries weren't stopping the Broncos from winning that Bills game last year. I believe it was Cutler's INTs and Marshall's dropped balls.

Anyways, my first post in this thread was about this upcoming year. I'm excited.

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 08:38 AM
And your coach got fired, your QB demanded a trade, and your Stud WR is acting like a Douchebag.

Maybe your organization isn't being ran that well.

By the way, those injuries weren't stopping the Broncos from winning that Bills game last year. I believe it was Cutler's INTs and Marshall's dropped balls.

Anyways, my first post in this thread was about this upcoming year. I'm excited.

ROFL Not exactly. There has been some drama with the regime change, but overall I think it's a well run organization. The change from Shanahan to McD has been more difficult than I expected... but, I don't exactly see this as the Titanic.

Mile High Mania
08-19-2009, 09:10 AM
Really? Sure they were fine in the regular season but in the playoffs, Rivers played with a torn ACL, I thought this was common knowledge?

Tomlinson had to sit out both years in the playoffs because of a Sprained Knee in 07, and a TORN GROIN in 08. Gates had a sprained toe in the 07 playoffs (hard to run), and a case of plantar fasciitis last year. Merriman was obviously out all year last year.

Our injuries have hit us during the playoffs the last 2 years.

I'm aware of all of what you've typed...

In that 07 loss to NE, VJ and Chambers still had over 90 yards each... Rivers threw for more than 200 yds and what cost him were the 2 INTs.

SD's defense let Maroney nearly avg 5 yds a run, going for 122 yds in that game. Turner started for SD, but it's not like he was some spare...

The NE defense was just that good. Add in the near 150 yards rushing... and that's why SD lost.

In the Divisional game the previous week, SD gave up 24 points... similar to the production that NE had the next week. SD won by 4... the difference being the 58 yd TD catch from Sproles.

Otherwise, it was a similar game by SD in those 2 weeks. Rivers had TDs of 30 and 56 yds in that win over Indy... he was hurt, but he was playing fine.

They were just beat by the better team against NE.

POND_OF_RED
08-19-2009, 09:46 AM
Denver has won 243 regular season games since 1984. The 49ers have won 239 regular season games since 1984.

SF and Denver are actually tied overall the past 25 years including playoff wins.

I see what you did there. You just made up numbers to make it seem like you were right. The Broncos have won 243 with 15 playoff wins. The 49ers have won 245 with 19 playoff wins. Would you say you're completely full of shit then?

Von Dumbass
08-19-2009, 09:56 AM
I see what you did there. You just made up numbers to make it seem like you were right. The Broncos have won 243 with 15 playoff wins. The 49ers have won 245 with 19 playoff wins. Would you say you're completely full of shit then?

I would say that one of us miscounted. And I am not about to go through that and try and recount again.

POND_OF_RED
08-19-2009, 10:02 AM
I would say that one of us miscounted. And I am not about to go through that and try and recount again.

I understand. Adding 25 numbers together can be strenuous. Your 2nd grade teacher will show you how to use a calculator when school starts back up. Just get back to us.

vailpass
08-19-2009, 11:38 AM
I see what you did there. You just made up numbers to make it seem like you were right. The Broncos have won 243 with 15 playoff wins. The 49ers have won 245 with 19 playoff wins. Would you say you're completely full of shit then?

Good numbers for both teams, especially if you add in the SB appearances/victories for both. Wonder what KC & SanDiego's numbers are over the same period? I'd think KC would have a larger number of regular season wins than SD but less post-season.