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Mr. Krab
08-19-2009, 08:08 PM
Ex-Jaguar Matt Jones plots NFL return

After disappointing tenure in Jacksonville, he's trying to put trouble behind him


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Matt Jones reacts in the end zone during a game against the Steelers on Oct. 5, 2008.

<!-- div.mid-column--> Matt Jones might never know the danger he’s appeared to escape. But he’s acutely aware his current train wreck of a career is preferable to the far-reaching consequences of cocaine use, which escalated this whole mess. As he attempts to salvage a once-promising NFL career, Jones spoke extensively in an interview with the Times-Union, outlining the details of past mistakes, his disappointing career in Jacksonville and his last-ditch shot at redemption.

A 2005 first-round pick of the Jaguars, he was busted for cocaine use last July, then sent to jail for a week for violating terms of his plea deal after drinking beers one afternoon while playing golf with friends. He is now jobless, but not hopeless.

“For those who believe Jesus Christ is their savior, you know His will in everything works for a reason,” said Jones, who admitted to trying cocaine for the first time about three months prior to his initial arrest. “I definitely look at this positively. You’re probably right [about getting into trouble becoming] a blessing.”

The coming weeks will test that logic when NFL teams open training camp. Having sequestered himself in a two-bedroom villa at IMG Academies in Bradenton for the better part of the last three months, Jones has spent more than $15,000 to train feverishly in seclusion with a team of specialists — ranging from nutritionists to mental-conditioning experts — for the second chance that falls into the hands of so many NFL players these days.

“Matt Jones deserves a second chance,” said former teammate Maurice Williams, a Jaguars tackle. “We all make mistakes, do things we aren’t proud of. He messed up and was honest about it. He knows he can’t afford to make any more mistakes.”

Jones’ agent, Dave Butz, said he’s spoken with several teams about possible interest in his client. Nothing concrete seems imminent.
Having recently graduated from a drug court in Arkansas, resulting in the state dropping cocaine possession charges against him, Jones isn’t subject to any further discipline from the NFL, other than a $50,000 fine.
“We’ve had dialogue with multiple teams,” Butz said. “I think [his prospects for catching on with a new team] are excellent. We’re excited now to find the best fit for Matt. He’s scot-free as far as punishment and ready to have a great year.”

Beginning of the end

The Jaguars won a playoff game in 2007, but Jones, who had a career-low 24 catches, wasn’t instrumental in that success. Jones seemed to be slipping out of favor with the club’s coaching staff. Coach Jack Del Rio, citing frustration about Jones’ apathetic attitude, had already placed the receiver on the inactive list for three games that season. Entering 2008, sources within the organization wanted Jones out, saying he’d be cut by the end of training camp.

The staff had reached its limit in dealing with Jones’ lackadaisical demeanor and questionable work habits. Jones exacerbated the situation last July with his felony cocaine arrest.

During that late-night incident in Fayetteville, Ark., last summer, police spotted Jones in the back of a car cutting up cocaine with a Foot Locker discount card, and arrested him along with former Arkansas teammates Jared Hicks and Benjamin Cook. The resulting fallout included a league suspension for the Jags’ final three games without pay after a lengthy appeal, in addition to admittance into a drug treatment program in Fayetteville that would erase criminal charges upon completion.

“[Cocaine] is something I hadn’t really done in the past, so it’s not like there was ever a drug problem,” Jones said. “[The incident] was something where I was with some of my buddies. It was a bad mistake, bad judgment on everybody’s part.”

On the field in 2008, however, Jones seemed to put the arrest behind him to produce his best season as a pro. Jones emerged from camp as the club’s No. 1 receiver after injuries to Reggie Williams and Jerry Porter, and led the Jaguars in receptions (65) and yardage (716). Before the suspension, Jones was on pace to catch more than 80 passes and eclipse the 1,000-yard mark for the first time in his career.

But one last mistake would sideline Jones’ tenure in Jacksonville for good.
“My first year [of my career], I was just running around, being an athlete. The second and third year, I kind of started to figure everything out. Then last year, I finally knew how to get open, was learning how to play receiver. It felt good,” Jones said.

“Then something like that happens.”

Release from Jacksonville

Jones was hanging out on a golf course with friends one day in February, Jones said he drank a couple of beers during a round. A day later (Feb. 27), Jones tested positive for alcohol during a random drug and alcohol screen administered by the drug court in Arkansas.

Alcohol consmption was a violation of his plea agreement that would resolve the cocaine charge. Jones was arrested March 9 and sentenced to 10 days of jail for contempt.

“I just had some bad advice from people who were close to me that were like, 'Hey, you can drink a couple of beers. It’s not a big deal.’ In the NFL [drug] program, you can drink alcohol. But there were a lot of different rules [from the drug court and the league] that I was looking at going through all that,” Jones said. “The bottom line was it was a mistake I made and paid for. Really I can’t point the finger at anybody else but myself. But there was never one second I thought that if I had a couple of beers I would lose my job. If I had my lawyers or somebody telling me, 'Hey, if you do drink a couple of beers, you’re gonna lose your job,’ there is no way that it would’ve happened. [If they would’ve said,] 'Don’t drink Gatorade for two weeks,’ [I would’ve been like,] 'OK, I won’t.’ ”

On March 16, a week after the arrest, the Jaguars released him. Jones finished his career in Jacksonville with 166 catches for 2,153 yards and 15 touchdowns. For the first time in his NFL career, Jones said he truly felt ashamed.

“I let them down and definitely understand why they did it,” Jones said. “It was a sad day for me. But essentially, I had a responsibility. My actions reflect the NFL, the Jaguars, they reflected Jack [Del Rio], [team owner] Wayne [Weaver] and [general manager] Gene [Smith] — everybody who was there. So the last thing that happened was kind of like “it.” That was 100 percent my fault.”

Smith declined to comment about Jones. Del Rio didn’t respond to voice mails or text messages this week seeking comment.

Washington County (Ark.) deputy prosecuting attorney Lisa Dennis said she was initially worried how Jones would react upon re-entering the drug treatment program after his release from the Jaguars.

“After the alcohol deal, we were concerned he’d come back with a bad attitude because of everything else that happened,” she said. “Before, when he had been in [the program], he hung his head and it sort of seemed like he was ashamed to be here. But when he got into trouble that last time, we noticed a real big change in him. He was accepting of responsibility. It’s almost as if he grew up, finally.”

Seeking redemption

Whether Jones truly feels remorse for actions that wrecked his career remains to be seen. But he’s taken steps to prove he deserves another chance.

The recent rash of off-the-field incidents around the now image-conscious league gives teams trepidation about acquiring players with questionable pasts. In addition to Jones’ now-resolved legal issues, his questionable work ethic in the past is a concern among some NFL decision makers, according to a former NFL head coach, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of his current employment in the league as an assistant.

“I don’t know the specifics of Matt’s situation, but guys like him and [former Atlanta quarterback] Mike Vick — obviously, Matt’s situation isn’t as serious — but I think teams are reluctant to deal with character problems,” the coach said. “There have been guys who have come through in the past I’ve worked with [that ran into legal difficulties] who are still trying to get back in. Once nobody trusts you, it’s hard to get back into the league. Another thing about Matt is he’s got a bit of a rep for being a lazy guy.”

Jones continues to try to chip away at that label. Desperate to get his life back together, Jones contacted Butz and the two called up IMG academies. Before the end of that week, Jones had packed his bags, put his home up for sale in Jacksonville and headed to Bradenton.
There, Jones sat down with a communications specialist along with a nutritionist, a physical therapist, a mental conditioning specialist, two strength and conditioning coaches and Trevor Moawad, the director of IMG’s performance institute, who had been employed by the Jaguars over the years to work on mental conditioning with former running back Fred Taylor.

“Right when he came in, I said, 'Look, Matt, we’re not here to entertain you. This is about work and getting it done,’ ” Moawad said. “But what I’ve noticed with Matt these last three months is a perpetual sense of urgency. He’s where he’s supposed to be when he’s supposed to be there. And at no point have I had to call him. He’s put in the time. You’re talking about a guy working Monday through Friday and doing regeneration on Saturday mornings. And it hasn’t been easy. He’s dealt with all this legal stuff, going back and forth from here to Arkansas. He’s also in a very reclusive environment here. When you’re here, you’re here to train. This is where players come during contract years. He’s living out back [of the facility] all by himself. In his free time, all he does is play golf and basketball out here.”
For the first three weeks after being released from Jacksonville, Jones spent all his time at IMG, where his day typically began at 8 a.m. There’s breakfast, then stretching from 9 a.m. to 9:30. Jones then hits the field for training — movement, speed and work on a hill with a 30-percent grade for 80 yards and a 70 percent grade for 20 yards — from 9:30 to 11:15, where he works with five to 10 other NFL players. From 11:30 to 1 p.m., Jones lifts weights.

After lunch, he meets with specialists for mental conditioning from 2:30 to 3:30. Depending on the day, Jones spends his final hour of work in communications training or nutrition from 4 p.m. to 5. Jones is also working with IMG staffers to improve his body language.

“What I’ve done the last few months, I think teams can look at that and see a guy who isn’t on a team, yet continues to train and keep himself in great shape and is putting up his own money to go there to train like that,” Jones said. “It’s just the little things I’ve been doing. I’m not sitting around the house eating Cheetos all day, you know. You look at all that and you can look at last year’s film. You look at my growth over the past few years and know that I’m gonna continue to get better.”
He’s also gotten wiser, it appears.

Since the legal problems began, Jones dissociated himself from people he once considered friends. In a sense, Jones explained, some of those people turned their backs on him first because true friends don’t allow one another to make so many bone-headed decisions.

Still, the sting of failure and embarrassment lingers. It creeps into Jones’ psyche every now and then. But one of the core elements of the mental conditioning at IMG involves forgetting the past and moving forward.

“I’m just sorry for making these mistakes and how everything turned out. I let down my family, friends and people close to me, my teammates,” Jones said. “I feel bad for my mother [Paula] having to go through so much in everyday life, people saying stuff to her. At the same time, all this has brought our family closer together. Everybody makes mistakes. But people know who I am when I’m in Arkansas or in Jacksonville and they all know about all this. It’s something you just live with. Anybody who knows me, they know my heart and know there was never any type of problem with drugs or alcohol. I can’t worry about what other people are thinking. You enjoy life. I’m young, happy and healthy and still can do just about anything I want. So what’s there not to enjoy?”

As Jones’ days in Washington County’s drug program came to a close, he took on extra community service that wasn’t required by the court. He spoke to children at schools in Arkansas, participated in a public-service announcement aimed at middle-school kids and took part in a football camp last month at Springdale (Ark.) High. Jones did the extra work — not because it looks good to the NFL, but because he wanted to, Dennis believes.

“He really has turned it around,” she said. “He was compliant with everything with us and all the reports from the NFL came back good. We just hope he takes this and turns it into something that can help some of the young kids out there.”

Despite past actions, Jones insists he never took his career for granted. He insists he isn’t overly concerned that his NFL might be over. Perhaps it’s the mental training that’s conditioning Jones to think that way.

Maybe he’s seen so much negativity, there’s nothing but positivity left.

“It starts with you. You can’t keep your head down worrying about everything. You’ve got to learn and move on,” Jones said. “I’m definitely looking forward to getting somewhere, getting into a playbook, learning routes and getting a relationship with a quarterback. The main thing I have to do is control what I control and that’s being in shape and ready for when I do get that phone call.”

MoreLemonPledge
08-19-2009, 08:12 PM
Many Matt Jones topics, but this actually has an article.

I'll say it again. I want him. He would immediately be an upgrade over anyone but Bowe.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:25 PM
Many Matt Jones topics, but this actually has an article.

I'll say it again. I want him. He would immediately be an upgrade over anyone but Bowe.

I agree. For the right price and terms of employment; this guy is a steal.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 08:26 PM
“For those who believe Jesus Christ is their savior, you know His will in everything works for a reason,” said Jones, who admitted to trying cocaine for the first time about three months prior to his initial arrest.


During that late-night incident in Fayetteville, Ark., last summer, police spotted Jones in the back of a car cutting up cocaine with a Foot Locker discount card, and arrested him along with former Arkansas teammates Jared Hicks and Benjamin Cook.

Say what you will, but that doesn't sound like a "first-time" use of cocaine to me. Doing it in the backseat of a car with your old college buddies sounds like something you did in college. Most "first-timers", particularly those who make loads of money, get introduced to coke at fancy social gatherings. They don't hang out with their former hoods in the backseat of a car.

And this is exactly how Vick got himself into trouble with the dog-fighting. They talk about this a lot of NFL Sirius: When these players become "professionals" and are making loads of money, they need to learn to make NEW friends and stay the f*ck away from old friends who are trouble. Hanging out with your old "inner city" drug snorting friends while you're a professional ball player is just asking for trouble.

Chocolate Hog
08-19-2009, 08:27 PM
No thanks to the white Rick James. If you haven't noticed Pioli/Haley want a specfic type of player and Matt Jones isn't it.

Mr_Tomahawk
08-19-2009, 08:28 PM
No thanks to the white Rick James. If you haven't noticed Pioli/Haley want a specfic type of player and Matt Jones isn't it.

Guys who spit on women...? :hmmm:

Chocolate Hog
08-19-2009, 08:30 PM
Guys who spit on women...? :hmmm:

LJ is basically playing for free and is actually a good player. A guy who catches 50 balls isn't worth the distraction.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:30 PM
Say what you will, but that doesn't sound like a "first-time" use of cocaine to me. Doing it in the backseat of a car with your old college buddies sounds like something you did in college. Most "first-timers", particularly those who make loads of money, get introduced to coke at fancy social gatherings. They don't hang out with their former hoods in the backseat of a car.

And this is exactly how Vick got himself into trouble with the dog-fighting. They talk about this a lot of NFL Sirius: When these players become "professionals" and are making loads of money, they need to learn to make NEW friends and stay the f*ck away from old friends who are trouble. Hanging out with your old "inner city" drug snorting friends while you're a professional ball player is just asking for trouble.

No thanks to the white Rick James. If you haven't noticed Pioli/Haley want a specfic type of player and Matt Jones isn't it.


Blah blah blah.......

Everybody fucks up but not everybody learns from it.

And Billay, you're too young to know shit about Rick James. :p


If we're bringing in scrubs like Lelie, we can damn sure give this guy a shot.

Consistent1
08-19-2009, 08:31 PM
Sounds like a doable risk at first glance, but something smells fishy when not one team has given him a shot.

JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 08:33 PM
LJ is basically playing for free and is actually a good player. A guy who catches 50 balls isn't worth the distraction.

huh? last i heard it was like 8 mil

Mr. Krab
08-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Sounds like a doable risk at first glance, but something smells fishy when not one team has given him a shot.
RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are trying to keep whitey down

MoreLemonPledge
08-19-2009, 08:35 PM
Jones could probably be signed for little more than the league minimum with incentives right now. Not a bad price.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 08:35 PM
Blah blah blah.......

Everybody ****s up but not everybody learns from it.



I'm NOT saying we don't give the guy a shot, Raised on Hemorrhoids, I'm just saying the article speaks of lies.

If we're going to give ANYONE a second chance in the NFL, I'd rather give Matt Jones a shot at redemption than a dog-killer.

pr_capone
08-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Say what you will, but that doesn't sound like a "first-time" use of cocaine to me. Doing it in the backseat of a car with your old college buddies sounds like something you did in college.

First and only time I ever tried coke was in a co-workers truck.

We were bored and could not work because of rain.

just saying

*edit

this was YEARS ago

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:40 PM
I'm NOT saying we don't give the guy a shot, Raised on Hemorrhoids, I'm just saying the article speaks of lies.

If we're going to give ANYONE a second chance in the NFL, I'd rather give Matt Jones a shot at redemption than a dog-killer.

Well, Cosmic Cum-Bucket, I'm glad I have you here to point out the obvious to me!

Yippee Ki Yay, Douche-Rocket!
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JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 08:40 PM
First and only time I ever tried coke was in a co-workers truck.

We were bored and could not work because of rain.

just saying

*edit

this was YEARS ago

my first time trying coke was in a girlfriends car (also YEARS ago) just sayin...

Chocolate Hog
08-19-2009, 08:40 PM
First and only time I ever tried coke was in a co-workers truck.

We were bored and could not work because of rain.

just saying

*edit

this was YEARS ago

You snorted coke off his shaft

JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 08:41 PM
You snorted coke off his shaft

huh? how the fuck did you get THAT out of what he said?

salame
08-19-2009, 08:41 PM
I agree. For the right price and terms of employment; this guy is a steal.

I never thought you and I would agree on anything

well except thinking pollard is dead sexy

Herzig
08-19-2009, 08:41 PM
As a Razorback fan, I would love to see Matt Jones with the Chiefs....can't believe Pioli hasn't given him a look. He would have a huge fan following from Arkansas coming up to Chiefs games.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Well, Cosmic Cum-Bucket, I'm glad I have you here to point out the obvious to me!

Yippee Ki Yay, Douche-Rocket!
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Yeah, it sounds like you need the obvious pointed out to you quite frequently.

Nice finger. Maybe you should try sticking it up your ass.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Yeah, it sounds like you need the obvious pointed out to you quite frequently.

Nice finger. Maybe you should try sticking it up your ass.

Maybe you shouldn't try starting shit you can't finish, Cum-Bucket.

If I take my finger out of your mom's ass, she won't be very happy with me!

salame
08-19-2009, 08:45 PM
what white college kid hasn't done blow?

Consistent1
08-19-2009, 08:46 PM
I agree with you Cosmic. He is at least somewhat full of shit. He wouldn't have got caught drinking a "couple of beers". Like someone said elsewhere, he most likely was up partying all night before his report deal and got snagged. He might think that golf story sounds good. You will not get caught for alcohol for simply drinking a "couple of beers" golfing the afternoon before. I could care less about that shit myself as long as he performed. The league is chock full of shady characters. Gotta be more to it character wise than we know. Jones has to have serious red flags for no team to bring him in on the cheap.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:46 PM
I never thought you and I would agree on anything

well except thinking pollard is dead sexy

I never said Pollard was "sexy", I said he can play.

Mr. Krab
08-19-2009, 08:47 PM
what white college kid hasn't done blow?
I'm willing to bet that more college kids try some kind of drug than don't try anything.

It really does seem like there is more to the story that we aren't privy too.

Skip Towne
08-19-2009, 08:48 PM
Grab him. He's a good ol' boy from Arkansas, not an inner city thug.

salame
08-19-2009, 08:49 PM
I never said Pollard was "sexy", I said he can play.

tomayto
tomahto

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:49 PM
I'm willing to bet that more college kids try some kind of drug than don't try anything.

It really does seem like there is more to the story that we aren't privy too.

A lot of the story is bullshit and PR, but I'm willing to bet that just as much of it is true as well.

Like I said, there's NO ONE outside of Bowe and Toomer who are a lock on being worth a shit as receivers, so give the guy a look if the price is right.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 08:49 PM
Maybe you shouldn't try starting shit you can't finish, Cum-Bucket.

If I take my finger out of your mom's ass, she won't be very happy with me!

Sounds like someone needs a hug.

munkey
08-19-2009, 08:50 PM
If I take my finger out of your mom's ass, she won't be very happy with me!


:spock:

NewChief
08-19-2009, 08:50 PM
Say what you will, but that doesn't sound like a "first-time" use of cocaine to me. Doing it in the backseat of a car with your old college buddies sounds like something you did in college. Most "first-timers", particularly those who make loads of money, get introduced to coke at fancy social gatherings. They don't hang out with their former hoods in the backseat of a car.


I'm an Arkansan, and these are my feelings on Jones. I hope the guy gets his shit together, and I'm not even sure that you can't be a cokehead addict and succeed in the NFL. That being said, I don't think he's honestly embracing any sort of recovery. He's feeding people a line of recovery bullshit. Since he's, in my opinion, lying about his recovery, he's not really in recovery as part of recovery is being honest. As such, I'd just say buyer beware when it comes to Jones. The guy could turn it around, but he could also continue to be a major fuckup of John Daley proportions.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:51 PM
tomayto
tomahto

Salame
Salami.:whackit::p

JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Sounds like someone needs a hug.

well he DID say your mom's anoose was hugging something.....









just giggin ya man.

salame
08-19-2009, 08:52 PM
Salame
Salami.:whackit::p

let's just kiss and make up


























































and have sex

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 08:52 PM
GAKKKK!!!!!!!

salame
08-19-2009, 08:54 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_NqEjmxQ6gbI/R0sIYr8gm-I/AAAAAAAAE7Q/oL2OoVbV_wg/IMG_4442.JPG


this is me if you are interested

pr_capone
08-19-2009, 08:54 PM
You snorted coke off his shaft

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5803/scarygayscratch.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/scarygayscratch.jpg/)

JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 08:55 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_NqEjmxQ6gbI/R0sIYr8gm-I/AAAAAAAAE7Q/oL2OoVbV_wg/IMG_4442.JPG


this is me if you are interested

you are a red x?

salame
08-19-2009, 08:56 PM
looks fine to me
brah

the Talking Can
08-19-2009, 08:56 PM
he's lying flat out about the coke being a first time thing, which torpedoes the idea that he "get's it"....


but wtf i'd give him a shot anyways if he's in as good a shape as claimed

Consistent1
08-19-2009, 08:59 PM
I'm an Arkansan, and these are my feelings on Jones. I hope the guy gets his shit together, and I'm not even sure that you can't be a cokehead addict and succeed in the NFL. That being said, I don't think he's honestly embracing any sort of recovery. He's feeding people a line of recovery bullshit. Since he's, in my opinion, lying about his recovery, he's not really in recovery as part of recovery is being honest. As such, I'd just say buyer beware when it comes to Jones. The guy could turn it around, but he could also continue to be a major ****up of John Daley proportions.

Have you ever read that book by Hollywood Henderson about his playing days? I can't even remeber the name, but it was a doozy. How about god ole' LT? That guy was a beast. Not everyone can pull that crap off though.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:02 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_NqEjmxQ6gbI/R0sIYr8gm-I/AAAAAAAAE7Q/oL2OoVbV_wg/IMG_4442.JPG


this is me if you are interested

No. Just...no.

JASONSAUTO
08-19-2009, 09:02 PM
Have you ever read that book by Hollywood Henderson about his playing days? I can't even remeber the name, but it was a doozy. How about god ole' LT? That guy was a beast. Not everyone can pull that crap off though.

yep IIRC LT would smoke crack before games maybe even during

salame
08-19-2009, 09:04 PM
No. Just...no.

just though I would make a peace offering out of my body

http://www.generationq.net/bm.pix/gay-guys~s600x600.jpg

Consistent1
08-19-2009, 09:05 PM
I had forgotten that story about Henderson winning 28 million playing the lottery. Insanity.

salame
08-19-2009, 09:05 PM
just though I would make a peace offering out of my body

http://www.generationq.net/bm.pix/gay-guys~s600x600.jpg

paged

riskrevival
08-19-2009, 09:07 PM
just bring this guy in. even for a 1 year stop gap, if he doesn't have his shit together send his ass packing. if he does, he's better than every WR we have but one.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 09:07 PM
How about god ole' LT? That guy was a beast. Not everyone can pull that crap off though.

You bring up an excellent point. And I believe that was a biography on LT, written by some New York Post writer, if I'm correct.

But, LT was addicted to coke and experienced numerous arrests. And we all know how that career turned out.

I'm not saying Matt Jones can do the same, or any human being for that matter. But I say give the guy a chance at redemption. If he f*cks up and doesn't perform- drop him. But, if he cleans up and is better than what we've got- then we scored on the deal. (Little drug reference there). :D

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:09 PM
Can I have some hot wings and a six-pack instead?

Ari Chi3fs
08-19-2009, 09:11 PM
I would bring in Matt Jones for a look. Hell, we should bring in DEACON Jones for a look.

salame
08-19-2009, 09:15 PM
Can I have some hot wings and a six-pack instead?

well, I do have a six pack

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:19 PM
I regretted that the moment I typed it. I'm overjoyed to see you did not fail me.

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Hell, we should bring in DEACON Jones for a look.

Or we could bring in Tom Jones? :D

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Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:21 PM
I think we should bring in Salame; he's frisky!

KCBOSS1
08-19-2009, 09:22 PM
If he can get his head clean, he's got freak skills. TAKE HIM!

I don't see Pioli doing it though.

KCUnited
08-19-2009, 09:35 PM
And Bill Maas discovered coke after his career was over. Hello, the '85 Royals ring a bell. This guy could blow a line off Niswanger's ass right after LJ slammed straight into it for a 2 yard loss for all I care. Bring him in.

Ari Chi3fs
08-19-2009, 09:36 PM
Coke is IT!!

ChiefsOne
08-19-2009, 09:38 PM
Bring him in!

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 09:39 PM
And Bill Maas discovered coke after his career was over.

I ran into him and Dino Hackett a couple of times in Westport. They were partying during their playing careers.

Ari Chi3fs
08-19-2009, 09:39 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qyhZ9_eXCHM/SccKBB2pZSI/AAAAAAAAAME/SKoeVAf1Ph8/s400/cocainecoke.gif

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 09:42 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qyhZ9_eXCHM/SccKBB2pZSI/AAAAAAAAAME/SKoeVAf1Ph8/s400/cocainecoke.gif

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/2660702268_177a520eec.jpg

KCBOSS1
08-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Besides, coke is an upgrade in Arkansas from Meth.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:51 PM
From 9:25 ( first video ) to 0:12 ( second video ):

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Case...fucking...CAH-LOSED! :rockon:

CosmicPal
08-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Case...****ing...CAH-LOSED! :rockon:

Saw that documentary before...it's a good one.

KCUnited
08-19-2009, 09:55 PM
From 9:25 ( first video ) to 0:12 ( second video ):

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Case...****ing...CAH-LOSED! :rockon:
Ha. My favorite guy from the doc was the pilot. Had the feds show up at his hanger, burned it down and went on the lamb. That guy was a trafficer.

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 09:58 PM
Ha. My favorite guy from the doc was the pilot. Had the feds show up at his hanger, burned it down and went on the lamb. That guy was a trafficer.

I just think that whole thing with Pittsburgh was hilarious, and something the NFL would probably like to see erased from existence.

KCUnited
08-19-2009, 10:04 PM
I just think that whole thing with Pittsburgh was hilarious, and something the NFL would probably like to see erased from existence.
You mean like "Playmakers."

Raised On Riots
08-19-2009, 10:07 PM
You mean like "Playmakers."

ROFL Yes, this.

Kyle DeLexus
08-19-2009, 11:55 PM
RACISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are trying to keep whitey down

Well where is Al Sharpton demanding to know why Matt Jones isn't in camp? He's got talent and did a wrong and took drug education classes and has no further punishment from the NFL so come on Al why aren't you speaking out for Matt like you did Mikey???

salame
08-20-2009, 12:45 AM
I think we should bring in Salame; he's frisky!

well I'm definitely more of a receiver than a thrower

Raised On Riots
08-20-2009, 12:52 AM
well I'm definitely more of a receiver than a thrower

:doh!:Have you met GoChiefs yet? :D

salame
08-20-2009, 12:53 AM
http://www.webwiseforradio.com/site_files/323/Image/SFR_Pics/1002_Matt_Jones_-_Ron_Burgundy.JPG

Raised On Riots
08-20-2009, 12:57 AM
ROFL

Ouch.

Iowanian
08-20-2009, 08:15 AM
http://www.webwiseforradio.com/site_files/323/Image/SFR_Pics/1002_Matt_Jones_-_Ron_Burgundy.JPG

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vIDwg27110E/SCKT1LCBLjI/AAAAAAAAAX8/940GgC2pwMI/s400/north_l.jpg

Micjones
08-20-2009, 09:14 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vIDwg27110E/SCKT1LCBLjI/AAAAAAAAAX8/940GgC2pwMI/s400/north_l.jpg

I remember saying how much I thought he resembled Nick Nolte.