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Tribal Warfare
08-21-2009, 12:25 AM
Cassel needs to step up tonight against Vikings (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1395926.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

MINNEAPOLIS | Matt Cassel wanted to be the quarterback of every Chiefs fan’s dreams right from the start of training camp.

“He wants everything to happen great right now,” offensive coordinator Chan Gailey said. “He wants to be a great player right now, which is great. That’s what you want from a quarterback. But these things take time.”

Cassel hasn’t often been a star on the practice field as the Chiefs wind down the northern portion of their training camp with tonight’s preseason game at Minnesota. Between multiple turnovers, errant throws and four scoreless possessions in last week’s preseason opener against Houston, Cassel’s camp has been uneven at best.

That adds a sense of urgency for Cassel and the starting offense in tonight’s game. The Chiefs may be just the sideshow for Brett Favre’s Vikings debut, but production from their quarterback is still high on their to-do list.

Coach Todd Haley said Cassel and the rest of the starters can expect to play the first half.

“There’s always a sense of urgency,” Cassel said. “In preseason, you’re trying to go out there and score points and have some production.”

Cassel has had to learn some patience. He waited for his chance to play for four years at USC and for three more as Tom Brady’s understudy with New England before finally becoming the starter last season after Brady’s injury.

Those lessons are useful to him now.

“This is a process,” he said. “There’s a new coaching staff here, new players. We’re still trying to find what our identity is going to be. There has to be some patience there.

“There have been good days as an offense; there have been bad days as an offense. Overall, I feel comfortable where I am.”

Haley hasn’t appeared as pleased. On the practice field, he’s often had critical comments about the play of Cassel, as well as that of backups Brodie Croyle and Tyler Thigpen.

This week, Haley declined to say whether Cassel had been the best quarterback in training camp.

“This is a full-time evaluation,” Haley said. “It’s everything that’s going on. You have game situations in which one quarterback’s situation may have been a little different from another’s. The plays called may have been different. There are a lot of things that go into the equation, (so) I don’t think it’s fair (to) any of those guys to answer that question.

“It had nothing to do with my feelings towards anybody. (Cassel is) working hard. He’s into it. He cares about it. Matt is getting more and more comfortable with what we’re doing out there.”

The most recent practice session on Wednesday illustrates the up-and-down nature of Cassel’s camp. At one point, he threw back-to-back touchdown passes to Mark Bradley and Bobby Engram, the second coming on a perfectly placed throw.

Cassel also missed a big play when he missed an open Bradley deep down the field. He threw an errant swing pass for Jackie Battle that also could have resulted in a sizable gain.

“He’s just got to continue to build a rapport with this receiver group,” Gailey said. “That will come. We didn’t play him a lot (against Houston) because we realize what he is and what he’s going to be.”

Croyle emerged in camp as the most worthy backup candidate. He has a long history of injuries but stayed whole through his portion of the Houston game.

“It wasn’t as foreign as I thought it might be,” said Croyle, who hadn’t played in a game since his season-ending knee injury last October. “I had to knock off some rust at the start, but after that I felt very comfortable.”

Thigpen didn’t practice this week and probably won’t play tonight. The Chiefs don’t discuss injuries and Thigpen wouldn’t reveal it, but he appears to have either broken or bruised ribs. He landed on the ball after taking a late hit in last week’s game.

Even before the injury, Thigpen was erratic throwing from a conventional formation. The Chiefs went to a spread formation to accommodate him last year.

Thigpen indicated he was making progress.

“My biggest thing is accuracy when I’m throwing from under center,” he said. “A lot of people have that knock on me, but I really don’t see the problem there. That’s one thing Haley harped on when he first got here, and I’ve worked on that and I think all that work is paying off.”

Saccopoo
08-21-2009, 01:17 AM
I saw a dog try to leg hump it's owner at the mailbox yesterday.

And Thigpen still indicated, besides the pre-matured ejaculation of the canine, that he was making progress - at least where throwing a World Ball sized, Whiffle Ball version of a football is needed.

salame
08-21-2009, 01:37 AM
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donkhater
08-21-2009, 07:35 AM
No he doesn't.


IT"S PRESEASON

He just doesn't have to get hurt and run the offense.

Dayze
08-21-2009, 07:51 AM
why does he 'have to step up'?
It’s PS; we have no idea what the coaching staff is trying to get a look at offensively.

Yeah, Teicher – he ‘has to’…..otherwise he’ll be out of a job. JFC.


GD. Teicher, go eat an AIDS sammich.

HemiEd
08-21-2009, 07:53 AM
Can someone tell me when the game will be aired on NFL channel?

thanks

donkhater
08-21-2009, 07:55 AM
Can someone tell me when the game will be aired on NFL channel?

thanks

Pretty much as soon as it ends. I think 11:00 PM EST

MVChiefFan
08-21-2009, 09:24 AM
I love how they're just nitpicking this s***. "Cassel missed this pass, and Cassel missed that". That's like saying Kobe Bryant needs to "step up" because he missed a wide open three-pointer. Give me a freakin' break.

Just Passin' By
08-21-2009, 09:28 AM
I find it interesting to watch how quickly reporters band together to manufacture issues. Here we've got Babb, Whitlock and Teicher all writing about the same non-reality in an effort to generate controversy.

TEX
08-21-2009, 09:33 AM
The whole Haley / Cassel / Bowe deal is straight out of the Bill Parcells Motivation 101 Handbook. All these clowns who are making a big deal out of it are just looking for a story other than the obvious one.

Mr. Krab
08-21-2009, 10:16 AM
Nope, Brodie Croyle needs to step up and get us Brandon Marshall!!!!!!!!!!!!

tmax63
08-21-2009, 10:23 AM
It's kinda funny to me how the writers have to make up sh!t to talk about. Read just the other day how quiet and uneventful TC was for the Chiefs this year and no big stories or controversy on or off field.

HypnotizedMonkey
08-21-2009, 10:39 AM
I hate to quote herm.. but everything gon' be okaaay.

DrRyan
08-21-2009, 10:58 AM
“My biggest thing is accuracy when I’m throwing from under center,” he said. “A lot of people have that knock on me, but I really don’t see the problem there. That’s one thing Haley harped on when he first got here, and I’ve worked on that and I think all that work is paying off.”

You really don't see the problem there? What???LMAO

The offense had to be completely changed in order for you to run it last season and you don't see a problem there?

SenselessChiefsFan
08-21-2009, 11:48 AM
Wow... Haley was critical of the QB's.

Um.... name one position group that he hasn't said something critical about?

Seriously, he has been 'critical' of Colquitt and Succop.

There is a reason.... he is that freaking head coach..... that's what they do.... get over it.

BigChiefFan
08-21-2009, 11:53 AM
It would probably help if he didn't have Cooper as his starting WR.

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 11:55 AM
Teicher, do me a favor. Grab your bottom lip, and pull it over you head. Now swallow.

Your Welcome.

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 11:57 AM
It would probably help if he didn't have Cooper as his starting WR.

I don't understand this? I mean Copper has been one of the most CONSISTENT receivers in camp. I watched him every day for 15 days. I think he has earned the right to play wide receiver for this team.

Same goes for Darling, especially after he took the tongue lashing from Haley last week. He has made strides.

Were gonna be fine folks.

BigChiefFan
08-21-2009, 12:10 PM
I don't understand this? I mean Copper has been one of the most CONSISTENT receivers in camp. I watched him every day for 15 days. I think he has earned the right to play wide receiver for this team.

Same goes for Darling, especially after he took the tongue lashing from Haley last week. He has made strides.

Were gonna be fine folks.
The point is, that having a journeyman, no name WR is no way to become a powerhouse offense. While, I agree, he's been consistant, he's hardly a player that's going to light up the league or have teams game-plan for.

bobbything
08-21-2009, 12:14 PM
Between multiple turnovers, errant throws and four scoreless possessions in last week’s preseason opener against Houston, Cassel’s camp has been uneven at best.
Wow. Just...wow.

He attempted 5 passes. Two were dropped that would have been 1st downs. If anything, the playcalling and wide receivers need to "step up tonight against the Vikings."

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 12:22 PM
The point is, that having a journeyman, no name WR is no way to become a powerhouse offense. While, I agree, he's been consistant, he's hardly a player that's going to light up the league or have teams game-plan for.

With respect, I completely disagree. If you want to call him a no name wide receiver , that is your business, I fully believe that Todd Haley may consider him as one of his biggest secret weapons. Copper has been solid in camp, we all know this, but one thing he did VERY well, was catch slants in traffic up high as well. Copper can still make a name for himself in the NFL and I think this marriage with the Chiefs is exactly what he needed. If the other team isn't game planning around him, Doesn't that make him a very "consistant" weapon to add to the mix? I say heck ya!!

It's up to Copper to become that player that other teams game plan for. I think with the camp he just had, and the chemistry he has created with Cassel is going to pay some dividends.

I see your point, I really do. But dont discount this guy just yet. It blows my mind how he didn't thrive in New Orleans while he was there. He catches the high ball in traffic very well.

BigChiefFan
08-21-2009, 12:39 PM
With respect, I completely disagree. If you want to call him a no name wide receiver , that is your business, I fully believe that Todd Haley may consider him as one of his biggest secret weapons. Copper has been solid in camp, we all know this, but one thing he did VERY well, was catch slants in traffic up high as well. Copper can still make a name for himself in the NFL and I think this marriage with the Chiefs is exactly what he needed. If the other team isn't game planning around him, Doesn't that make him a very "consistant" weapon to add to the mix? I say heck ya!!

It's up to Copper to become that player that other teams game plan for. I think with the camp he just had, and the chemistry he has created with Cassel is going to pay some dividends.

I see your point, I really do. But dont discount this guy just yet. It blows my mind how he didn't thrive in New Orleans while he was there. He catches the high ball in traffic very well.

While I would love to share your enthusiasm for Copper, I can't because we've all been down this road, way too many times before. From Boerighter to Bobby Sippio, etc, etc... They're almost always flash in the pans.

I'm sorry, but a 27 year old WR going into his 7th season, with his 4th team and only has 46 CAREER RECEPTIONs is by definition, a JOURNEYMAN WR.

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 12:55 PM
While I would love to share your enthusiasm for Copper, I can't because we've all been down this road, way too many times before. From Boerighter to Bobby Sippio, etc, etc... They're almost always flash in the pans.

I'm sorry, but a 27 year old WR going into his 7th season, with his 4th team and only has 46 CAREER RECEPTIONs is by definition, a JOURNEYMAN WR.

Fair enough. LoL. Only 46 huh? Nice stat to look up there. Well said.

The Bad Guy
08-21-2009, 01:14 PM
I don't understand this? I mean Copper has been one of the most CONSISTENT receivers in camp. I watched him every day for 15 days. I think he has earned the right to play wide receiver for this team.

Same goes for Darling, especially after he took the tongue lashing from Haley last week. He has made strides.

Were gonna be fine folks.

Spare me.

If Devard Darling and Terrence Copper are the Chiefs starting receivers, we will set a record for fewest receiving touchdowns by a starting duo in the history of the NFL.

JASONSAUTO
08-21-2009, 01:46 PM
Spare me.

If Devard Darling and Terrence Copper are the Chiefs starting receivers, we will set a record for fewest receiving touchdowns by a starting duo in the history of the NFL.


barry's beginning to be about as annoying and self serving as claythan. always ready to pat himself on the back. well at least he actually went to TC and didnt write articles from published reports

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
barry's beginning to be about as annoying and self serving as claythan. always ready to pat himself on the back. well at least he actually went to TC and didnt write articles from published reports

I'll take it!! lol. Look, I'm sorry if some of you are perceiving me as always "patting myself on the back" I will try and tone it down. I just have so much to talk about, it's crazy, and now that I finally got to go to River Falls, I really think I made the most of it. It was a dream come true. And I shared it ALL for anyone to see whenever they want. I brought training camp HOME to you. I did that for the 12th man. We must bring back the true Sea of Red.

And for the record, Athan had that intern at camp for him this year. Her name was Shawna. She gave me the cold nose the whole time we were there. I found it hilarious.

Make no mistake about it friends, I do this for the 12th man. I want to report ALL THINGS that are good about the Kansas City CHiefs. Not all things that are bad. I am not here to toot my own horn. However, I am here to spread my message. That is why I joined the planet. That message is simple..

The Kansas City Chiefs are the greatest team in all of the land. And we are already winners for being fans of this most excellent team.

I am sorry if you think I am full of myself. I get that alot, but it's a burden I accepted when I took on this role. I am fine with it. I promise you, if you want to meet me at a game, I'm sure you'll find that I wont annoy you.

JD10367
08-21-2009, 02:20 PM
Having never been to Kansas City, I'm not aware, so I have a question: are ALL the sports reporters out there douchwaffles? Or only the guys you all quote here?

OnTheWarpath58
08-21-2009, 02:23 PM
Having never been to Kansas City, I'm not aware, so I have a question: are ALL the sports reporters out there douchwaffles? Or only the guys you all quote here?

They're all douchewaffles.

Joe Posnanski was the only good sports writer at the Star, and he's a baseball guy - doesn't write much about football/NFL.

And now he's gone to write for SI, IIRC.

Having met Adam Teicher personally, I can tell you he's several flapjacks short of a stack when it comes to football.

Whitlock hasn't been relevant in years, IMO.

And Kent Babb is average at best.

Sad group.

Mr. Krab
08-21-2009, 02:47 PM
If Copper and Darling are so great then why couldn't they get open against the Texans?

BarrySPAMAID
08-21-2009, 02:56 PM
Having never been to Kansas City, I'm not aware, so I have a question: are ALL the sports reporters out there douchwaffles? Or only the guys you all quote here?

No, not all of them. But many of them are.

Halfcan
08-21-2009, 03:23 PM
the media is getting shut out at Arrowhead so they have to stir some shit up

Reerun_KC
08-21-2009, 03:25 PM
So what does Mark Castle have to do tonight to prove to the lame ass joke of a media in KC that he is capable of leading this team and winning games?

Count Zarth
08-21-2009, 03:37 PM
Thigpen needs to step down.