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Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 09:16 AM
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The Kansas City Chiefs have acquired G/C Andy Alleman from the Miami Dolphins for undisclosed compensation, a league source told Scout.com.
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Alleman was running with the third team offense in training camp for the Dolphins, but started four games last season and appeared in 15.

The versatile lineman likely will compete for playing time with the Chiefs in backup of starting RG Mike Goff (http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307449).

Alleman was originally selected by the New Orleans Saints in the third-round of the 2007 draft.

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Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 09:17 AM
Hum?

Well there is a start....

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 09:18 AM
We're trading for third stringers now?

Thig Lyfe
08-24-2009, 09:19 AM
START PRINTING FUCKETY FUCK

Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 09:19 AM
We're trading for third stringers now?I guess its an upgrade trying to replace our 4th stringers that we currently have on the right side of the line...


Never hurts to quit trying... I can see the frustration though. We were 85% there just less than a year ago...

RJ
08-24-2009, 09:20 AM
We're trading for third stringers now?


Third stringers for other teams.

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 09:21 AM
I guess the upside is....he's 25.

Mr. Krab
08-24-2009, 09:21 AM
We better not have traded anything higher than a 6th. I think Pioli/haley suddenly realized that we have needs along the offensive line. :/

Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 09:21 AM
I guess the upside is....he's 25.

See! There is something postitive aobut the trade!

pr_capone
08-24-2009, 09:22 AM
To the floatie!

http://www.everclearpoolspecialists.com/images/floatie1_ruib.gif

Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 09:22 AM
We better not have traded anything higher than a 6th. I think Pioli/haley suddenly realized that we have needs along the offensive line. :/

:hmmm:

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 09:22 AM
You know, can he really do any WORSE than Niswanger?

Just Passin' By
08-24-2009, 09:23 AM
Shockingly, not every trade is going to net an All-Pro for a 7th round pick. This move will increase competition at a very weak spot on the team, and it's probably for nothing more than a conditional pick.

Rooster
08-24-2009, 09:23 AM
Pioli's wife called her dad and the Phins threw us a bone. :)

dirk digler
08-24-2009, 09:24 AM
Doesn't he make any trades outside of the Parcells tree? :D

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 09:24 AM
You know, can he really do any WORSE than Niswanger?

Really....he's going to play C now?

Mr. Krab
08-24-2009, 09:24 AM
:hmmm:
Up until now they had been talking like the Oline was just a work in progress. Now Haley says Cassel is just gonna have to run for his life for awhile. A noticeable change in attitude.

Chiefshrink
08-24-2009, 09:25 AM
Here is where Pioli and his scout team pays off with finding the "hidden gems".:thumb:

Ironic timing. Something that Haley and Pioli were watching this past game that they decided was not going to improve so they made a move. Any ideas who didn't work out????:rolleyes: How about the whole O-line!!

Lonewolf Ed
08-24-2009, 09:25 AM
We're trading for third stringers now?

Since most of our line are fourth stringers, this can be viewed as a plus.

CoMoChief
08-24-2009, 09:25 AM
I'd rather have someone that has experience in the league than some 7th round nobody that would be lucky enough to make it through camp with being cut.

tomahawk kid
08-24-2009, 09:26 AM
This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless I'm missing something about this guy.

Fairplay
08-24-2009, 09:26 AM
Pioli does his homework. All hail him! :hail:

We need help in the offensive line area as all would agree. Making a trade shows they have been looking. I think they see some talent in this guy.

BigRock
08-24-2009, 09:26 AM
Alleman was originally selected by the New Orleans Saints in the third-round of the 2007 draft.

That's an awful lot of movement in a short time for a 3rd rounder.

BigChiefFan
08-24-2009, 09:27 AM
At least they're making an effort to improve.

Gonzo
08-24-2009, 09:27 AM
START PRINTING FUCKETY FUCK

I WOULD THE WHOLE FUCKING THING!
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wild1
08-24-2009, 09:33 AM
Just said in another thread earlier, I bet they trade a low round pick for some lineman.

2 positions out of 5 being serviceable is bad. But the upside is, if you replace an idiot with a decent player, you might reduce your problems by 33%

Chiefshrink
08-24-2009, 09:35 AM
Pioli does his homework. All hail him! :hail:

We need help in the offensive line area as all would agree. Making a trade shows they have been looking. I think they see some talent in this guy.

Precisely!:thumb:

rockymtnchief
08-24-2009, 09:36 AM
This actually is not the first time the Chiefs have tried to acquire Alleman. He was cut by the Saints after being a third round draft pick in 2007. The Dolphins were first on the waiver wire and snagged him on August 31st, 2008.

But, according to the NFL Network, six other teams put in a claim for him including the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots and New York Jets.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/8/24/1000342/chiefs-trade-with-dolphins-for

ChiefButthurt
08-24-2009, 09:36 AM
Doesn't he make any trades outside of the Parcells tree? :D

Pats = good
Phins = good

Chiefs = soon to be good :thumb:

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 09:39 AM
Pats = good
Phins = good

Chiefs = soon to be good :thumb:

The Phins are good now? I'd like to see them repeat what they did last year before I claim that they are good.

rockymtnchief
08-24-2009, 09:40 AM
He's missed most of the summer with a back injury. He just started practicing on August 9th.

Demonpenz
08-24-2009, 09:43 AM
typical chiefs, they are starting to panic and entering win now mode

KC kid
08-24-2009, 09:45 AM
Win now mode? lol They did not just acquire ty law or surtain.

Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 09:48 AM
Win now mode? lol They did not just acquire ty law or surtain.

Hugh Douglas? Finally? Did we sign him?


Win now baby!

DaWolf
08-24-2009, 09:50 AM
Doesn't he make any trades outside of the Parcells tree? :D

Best way to get scouting reports and be sure the other party isn't trying to screw you, otherwise that will make for some awkward family reunions... :D

Ari Chi3fs
08-24-2009, 09:54 AM
Pioli's wife called her dad and the Phins threw us a bone. :)

Daaaaddy! My Scotty needs a Offensive Lineman, daddy... could we pleeeaaase have one of yours?

Alphaman
08-24-2009, 09:54 AM
This actually is not the first time the Chiefs have tried to acquire Alleman. He was cut by the Saints after being a third round draft pick in 2007. The Dolphins were first on the waiver wire and snagged him on August 31st, 2008.

But, according to the NFL Network, six other teams put in a claim for him including the Arizona Cardinals, Denver Broncos, Indianapolis Colts, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots and New York Jets.


The key here is not that the Chiefs put a waiver claim in on him at that time, but that New England (i.e Pioli) did. He's listed as a G/C. I'm betting that he factors into the starting C equation.

the Talking Can
08-24-2009, 09:58 AM
jesus, already on wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Alleman

the Talking Can
08-24-2009, 09:59 AM
link (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dolphins-andy-alleman-trade-082409,0,5859212.story)

DAVIE - The Miami Dolphins are on the verge of trading offensive lineman Andy Alleman to the Kansas City Chiefs for a late-round draft pick, according to a league source.

Alleman, a backup interior lineman, played in 16 games last season for the Dolphins. He started five games, including the playoff loss to Baltimore, as Justin Smiley's replacement at left guard.

The former Akron standout, who was drafted in the third-round by the Saints in 2007, had been working as the backup left guard and third-team center during training camp.

But Donald Thomas' emergence as the starting right guard, Shawn Murphy's recent progress, and Joe Berger's signing as the backup center made him expendable.

The Chiefs are run by Scott Pioli, who happens to be Bill Parcells' son-in-law. Rather than cut players who have value, the Dolphins' decision-makers prefer to trade them to teams with those position needs.

Last year at this time, Parcells traded cornerback Travis Daniels to Cleveland for a seventh-round pick, and quarterback Josh McCown to Carolina for a seventh-round pick.

The Dolphins have not confirmed the move, which likely awaits league approval.

Alleman's trade would leave the Dolphins with 12 offensive linemen vying for nine or 10 roster spots on the 53-man roster.

The Dolphins have already made six roster moves Monday morning, cutting tight end Ernest Wilford, running back Anthony Kimble, linebackers Orion Martin and Tearrius George, defensive tackle Joe Cohen, and receiver Chris Williams.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 10:00 AM
Ah-ha, so he was second-team guard.

Watch yo ass, Goff!

Consistent1
08-24-2009, 10:02 AM
I heard that trying to get Ronnie Brown for Thigpen almost killed the deal. At least Brodie for Marshall can still become reality.

Buehler445
08-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Could it be that this guy will start C and 'wanger will move to guard where he played pretty well when Weigman was still here?
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Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 10:06 AM
Could it be that this guy will start C and 'wanger will move to guard where he played pretty well when Weigman was still here?
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Personally I think Niswanger would get killed at guard. He gets shoved into the backfield all the time.

JimNasium
08-24-2009, 10:09 AM
I hope we found a gem with this guy.

Reerun_KC
08-24-2009, 10:10 AM
Could it be that this guy will start C and 'wanger will move to guard where he played pretty well when Weigman was still here?
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Might be? Good call...

The Wanger would be better at Guard than Center...

Skip Towne
08-24-2009, 10:17 AM
jesus, already on wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Alleman

This won't take long did it?

JimNasium
08-24-2009, 10:21 AM
This won't take long did it?

This didn't take long would it?

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 10:22 AM
This didn't take long would it?

It didn't take long would this?

KcFanInGA
08-24-2009, 10:38 AM
It long would, TAKE THIS!!!...It long wood..Take This!

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 10:39 AM
LONG WOOD

TAKE IT

BITCH

ChiefaRoo
08-24-2009, 10:41 AM
To the floatie!

http://www.everclearpoolspecialists.com/images/floatie1_ruib.gif

ROFL

Mr. Krab
08-24-2009, 10:42 AM
Our interior line got bull rushed back about 5 yrds on every passing play against Minnesota. Wanna by some weight training for those turds.

MVChiefFan
08-24-2009, 10:45 AM
Our interior line got bull rushed back about 5 yrds on every passing play against Minnesota. Wanna by some weight training for those turds.

But I bet our o-line could out run those turds. Which, as we all know, is what you need in an o-line.

ChiefButthurt
08-24-2009, 10:49 AM
The Phins are good now? I'd like to see them repeat what they did last year before I claim that they are good.


Yeah...the Phins went 1-15 in 2007. Improved their record to 11-5 in 2008. Hell I'll take that kind of improvement any day. Sooo yes they're good.

Playoffs = good :thumb:

BigRock
08-24-2009, 10:51 AM
There's a second guy involved:

Jeff Darlington is reporting that Ikechuku Ndukwe went in the same package to the Chiefs as Alleman. Ndukwe started 15 games at right guard last year but was moved to right tackle this year and was languishing on third team during camp.

sportsman1
08-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Hell we should stock pile any o-lineman we can. Noone can do worse. Anyone off the Phins surely could compete.

JimNasium
08-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Warning, Bronco crap on the front side of this video about Alleman's combine day.

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Just Passin' By
08-24-2009, 10:53 AM
There's a second guy involved:

Ehhh..... Pioli's just sitting on his ass, gloating over his new job. ;)

Brock
08-24-2009, 10:53 AM
It's good to see team management actually try to fix an obvious problem, even if it's a little late in coming.

the Talking Can
08-24-2009, 10:55 AM
There's a second guy involved:

good, the more the merrier


we're trying

Just Passin' By
08-24-2009, 10:58 AM
This Chiefs team probably didn't have 10 players worth keeping when Pioli took over. You people have got to quit bitching about the team not being a Super Bowl contender with an All-Pro at every position less than 9 months later. Otherwise, you might as well throw away your televisions, because you're going to hate your team all year long.

Iowanian
08-24-2009, 10:59 AM
I think we'll see as many as 5-6 players picked up after cuts.

JimNasium
08-24-2009, 10:59 AM
This Chiefs team probably didn't have 10 players worth keeping when Pioli took over. You people have got to quit bitching about the team not being a Super Bowl contender with an All-Pro at every position less than 9 months later. Otherwise, you might as well throw away your televisions, because you're going to hate your team all year long.

Half the guys here think they have the talent to be a GM so you just have to take their fantasy world with a grain of salt.

Rooster
08-24-2009, 11:01 AM
What ever happened to that huge Mexican KC signed a year or two ago? Call him up... :hmmm:

The Poz
08-24-2009, 11:02 AM
There's a second guy involved:

Rotoworld had this to say:

"In addition to Andy Alleman, the Chiefs also acquired OG Ike Ndukwe from the Dolphins.
It must have been an interesting Sunday night dinner for Bill Parcells and his son-in-law, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli. Ndukwe could start at right guard for the Chiefs, and Alleman may be pushed to center where he'd be an upgrade on Rudy Niswanger and Eric Guiaciuc. The Dolphins are obviously happy with the progress of guards Donald Thomas and Shawn Murphy."

Dawson4004
08-24-2009, 11:03 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1200149.html

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 11:03 AM
The Dolphins had a good running game with these guys starting quite a few games. I like this a lot.

FringeNC
08-24-2009, 11:04 AM
I think Niswanger is more of a problem than Goff. Could Alleman immediately be moved to first team center?

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 11:06 AM
Here was his draft profile from Scout.com:

Biography:
Former Pittsburgh transfer who began his college career at defensive end. Two-year starter at offensive guard.

Pos:
Strong, dominant interior blocker with a good amount of upside. Quick off the snap, immediately gets into blocks and holds the point of attack. Stays square, blocks with a wide base and bends his knees. Jolts opponents with good hand punch, seals defenders from the action and is fundamentally sound. Plays with a nasty attitude, going hard until the whistle blows. Works well with teammates.

Neg:

Lacks lateral blocking range. Must improve his balance and learn to consistently finish blocks.

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 11:06 AM
I think Niswanger is more of a problem than Goff. Could Alleman immediately be moved to first team center?

God I hope so.

dirk digler
08-24-2009, 11:07 AM
Rotoworld had this to say:

"In addition to Andy Alleman, the Chiefs also acquired OG Ike Ndukwe from the Dolphins.
It must have been an interesting Sunday night dinner for Bill Parcells and his son-in-law, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli. Ndukwe could start at right guard for the Chiefs, and Alleman may be pushed to center where he'd be an upgrade on Rudy Niswanger and Eric Guiaciuc. The Dolphins are obviously happy with the progress of guards Donald Thomas and Shawn Murphy."

So we got another player as well? Cool

LaChapelle
08-24-2009, 11:08 AM
There's a second guy involved:

They've got to make room for him, sorry Thigggy lovers.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 11:09 AM
I think Niswanger is more of a problem than Goff. Could Alleman immediately be moved to first team center?

Me too. I wouldn't judge Goff based on a game against Kevin Williams.

suds79
08-24-2009, 11:11 AM
I think Niswanger is more of a problem than Goff. Could Alleman immediately be moved to first team center?

I would think he'd get a serious look at that spot. Niswanger has got to be one of the weaker Centers in the league. Seems like he's always getting pushed back into the QB's lap.

Mr. Krab
08-24-2009, 11:13 AM
I wonder how long these new guys will have to run laps before they lose enough weight to practice?

Skip Towne
08-24-2009, 11:14 AM
Another 2 player deal? I guess Parcells didn't want to be outdone by Hoodie

BigChiefFan
08-24-2009, 11:19 AM
Ndukwe started 15 games last year. For a low round pick, we might have actually picked up some players that could push for a starting role or at the very least, give us some depth. That's pretty good return for a low-round pick.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 11:19 AM
This is very good news. I watched the Dolphins-Jags game and the Dolphins running game was very strong, even in the fourth quarter. Pioli & Haley obviously feel that both players can learn the blocking scheme easily and both are an upgrade over Niswanger & Goff (I still can't see Goff making the final roster).

I'd imagine they're giving up a 7th round pick in the 2010 or 2011 draft. All the pick does is insure that Detroit and/or St. Louis didn't put a claim in for either via the waiver wire. Considering Alleman was highly sought after once before, I'm good with this trade.

Essentially ANYONE will be an upgrade over Niswanger and Goff. Goff's too old and lost anything he ever had and Niswanger just isn't NFL material. He belongs in the UFL.

the Talking Can
08-24-2009, 11:20 AM
This is very good news. I watched the Dolphins-Jags game and the Dolphins running game was very strong, even in the fourth quarter. Pioli & Haley obviously feel that both players can learn the blocking scheme easily and both are an upgrade over Niswanger & Goff (I still can't see Goff making the final roster).

I'd imagine they're giving up a 7th round pick in the 2010 or 2011 draft. All the pick does is insure that Detroit and/or St. Louis didn't put a claim in for either via the waiver wire. Considering Alleman was highly sought after once before, I'm good with this trade.

Essentially ANYONE will be an upgrade over Niswanger and Goff. Goff's too old and lost anything he ever had and Niswanger just isn't NFL material. He belongs in the UFL.

nice

BigRock
08-24-2009, 11:26 AM
That's pretty good return for a low-round pick.

Considering the addition of Ndukwe, it's possible we gave up a little more than people were expecting when Alleman was the only name being mentioned.

We also need to factor in that we don't have a 7th rounder in 2010 -- it was traded to Miami. But maybe we did some kind of switch, ala Tampa Bay and Sims/Bennett, where we gave them a 5th or 6th rounder for these guys and got our 7th back.

BigCatDaddy
08-24-2009, 11:27 AM
The dude on the radio said he thought the Chiefs were going to try to push Ndukwe out to RT. FWIW Maybe slide in Richardson to RG?

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 11:29 AM
The dude on the radio said he thought the Chiefs were going to try to push Ndukwe out to RT. FWIW Maybe slide in Richardson to RG?

Richardson's a left tackle. He just can't make the transition to the right side. Colin Brown is a much more natural right guard, so it doesn't make any sense to put Richardson inside.

I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson or Taylor is traded for a late round pick because at this point, I doubt both make the squad.

Frosty
08-24-2009, 11:31 AM
The dude on the radio said he thought the Chiefs were going to try to push Ndukwe out to RT. FWIW Maybe slide in Richardson to RG?

The article posted above said that Nduwe started last year at RG but when moved to RT this year, he dropped to third string. I imagine he will get a tryout there but I am betting we just picked up our starting C and RG. Richardson might play better at RT with more help inside.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-24-2009, 11:31 AM
maybe traded for thigpen

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 11:32 AM
Richardson might play better at RT with more help inside.

After watching him closely these past few weeks, I doubt it. He's much, much better on the left side.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 11:32 AM
maybe traded for thigpen

Bill Parcells isn't that fucking stupid

Mr. Arrowhead
08-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Bill Parcells isn't that ****ing stupid
hey it could happen LOL

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 11:34 AM
The ironic part of this is that Ndukwe and Alleman were starting when the Ravens raped Miami in the playoffs.

Guess who we play Week 1?

roflcopter

Frosty
08-24-2009, 11:35 AM
After watching him closely these past few weeks, I doubt it. He's much, much better on the left side.

I don't claim to have enough knowledge to know for sure while watching the game, so I was going by what Milkman posted when he said BR wasn't great against the Vikings but at least looked credible there.

tomahawk kid
08-24-2009, 11:44 AM
Ndukwe started 15 games last year. For a low round pick, we might have actually picked up some players that could push for a starting role or at the very least, give us some depth. That's pretty good return for a low-round pick.

At RG?

BigRock
08-24-2009, 11:52 AM
Boy, the Star's all over this story. Can't slip a thing past those guys.

DTLB58
08-24-2009, 11:54 AM
This Chiefs team probably didn't have 10 players worth keeping when Pioli took over. You people have got to quit bitching about the team not being a Super Bowl contender with an All-Pro at every position less than 9 months later. Otherwise, you might as well throw away your televisions, because you're going to hate your team all year long.

Yup, They just gotta do what I did with my fantasy team last year, even though I play in a keeper league I didn't keep a one of them cause I knew they were all crap, everyone else in my league kept the max and I redrafted my entire team and won the championship.

Now, is that gonna happen here? no, but sometimes you just gotta realize what ya got and move on.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 11:54 AM
Boy, the Star's all over this story. Can't slip a thing past those guys.

WPI FOREVER

KCUnited
08-24-2009, 12:01 PM
Petro talked to a media guy in Miami who said neither one of these guys were in danger of being cut and both were quality linemen.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:07 PM
Petro talked to a media guy in Miami who said neither one of these guys were in danger of being cut and both were quality linemen.

Boy, Parcells really turned that team's talent base around in a hurry...

tomahawk kid
08-24-2009, 12:07 PM
Petro talked to a media guy in Miami who said neither one of these guys were in danger of being cut and both were quality linemen.

That's good to hear.

By all accounts, it's probably an upgrade over Niswanger and McSacintosh / BR.

Micjones
08-24-2009, 12:09 PM
Excellent move, but the Offensive Line is all about chemistry.

I like the idea of "seeing what you have"...
I just wonder if we couldn't have seen any of this sooner this off-season and given the new guys a real chance to gel with their teammates?

Fairplay
08-24-2009, 12:10 PM
Maybe the great Hamas will tell us all in great detail in this pick up was good or not.

salame
08-24-2009, 12:11 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/chrisjnelson/IkeNdukwe.jpg

Mr. Krab
08-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Excellent move, but the Offensive Line is all about chemistry.

I like the idea of "seeing what you have"...
I just wonder if we couldn't have seen any of this sooner this off-season and given the new guys a real chance to gel with their teammates?
If it's all about chemistry then why isn't the left side of our line better? Alberts/Waters/Niswanger have been together for quite awhile.

Skip Towne
08-24-2009, 12:18 PM
WPI FOREVER

WPI? Isn't that the guys with no press credentials?

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 12:19 PM
Soooooooo.....it looks like this?

Albert/Waters/Allen/Ndukwe/Richardson

????

Chiefshrink
08-24-2009, 12:21 PM
Boy, Parcells really turned that team's talent base around in a hurry...

When you have developed your own tree, trust and reputation of those you know are much easier to accept. Thus the best part is you throw bones to each other as long as they are not in your own division. This is how you turn your talent base around quickly. And it helps as someone said earlier, that Parcells doesn't want his daughter looking like she married a loser in the long run.:thumb:

tomahawk kid
08-24-2009, 12:22 PM
Soooooooo.....it looks like this?

Albert/Waters/Allen/Ndukwe/Richardson

????

My guess is they're gonnna try:

Albert / Waters / Alleman / Goff / Ndukwe

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:24 PM
So Goff is washed up?

aturnis
08-24-2009, 12:24 PM
Soooooooo.....it looks like this?

Albert/Waters/Allen/Ndukwe/Richardson

????

I hope not. I don't care what anyone on this site said after reviewing the Minnesota tape. Richardson is not good.

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:26 PM
I hope not. I don't care what anyone on this site said after reviewing the Minnesota tape. Richardson is not good.

It takes more then 1 start in a pre-season game before you can judge a player.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:26 PM
So Goff is washed up?

Absolutely.

He's done. Finito. I'd be surprised if he makes the squad.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:26 PM
Soooooooo.....it looks like this?

Albert/Waters/Allen/Ndukwe/Richardson

????

I'm thinking Albert/Waters/Allen/Nduwe/?

I honestly think that the Chiefs starting right tackle isn't currently on the roster.

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Absolutely.

He's done. Finito. I'd be surprised if he makes the squad.

So much for that veteran leadership everyone was talking about. Thomas & Goff shouldn't make this team. Vrabel is the only old guy starting. Like I said you can't really be a leader when you don't play.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Again, I would not judge Goff based on a game against Kevin Williams.

Chiefnj2
08-24-2009, 12:28 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:29 PM
So much for that veteran leadership everyone was talking about. Thomas & Goff shouldn't make this team. Vrabel is the only old guy starting. Like I said you can't really be a leader when you don't play.

Exactly. I hated that line of bullshit to begin with.

And FTR, Vrabel's been nothing more than a body out there. He's certainly not a playmaker like Corey Mays and he's not a legitimate pass rushing threat.

I don't think the Chiefs are even close to being finished with the linebacking corp this year.

There are going to be a lot of changes to this roster before Week One.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:29 PM
Again, I would not judge Goff based on a game against Kevin Williams.

Get the fuck over it.

Goff sucks ass.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:30 PM
Get the fuck over it.

Goff sucks ass.

He had a decent game in Week 1.

Kevin Williams brutalizes everyone.

We'll see how he does this week.

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:31 PM
Exactly. I hated that line of bullshit to begin with.

And FTR, Vrabel's been nothing more than a body out there. He's certainly not a playmaker like Corey Mays and he's not a legitimate pass rushing threat.

I don't think the Chiefs are even close to being finished with the linebacking corp this year.

There are going to be a lot of changes to this roster before Week One.

My friend went to the game he said it was amazing how much teaching Vrabel was doing. Is he just an average player now? Sure but I really do think he's a leader on defense something this defense hasn't had in years. I don't know much about these linemen but I will say Pioli has done a good job at brining in some talent (Mays) and it looks like the Chiefs will have 3 7th round draft picks starting. Hows that for value?

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:31 PM
He had a decent game in Week 1.

Kevin Williams brutalizes everyone.

We'll see how he does this week.

Gimme a break.

Raven. Eagles. Giants. Chargers. Redskins.

Those teams will fuck up Goff and kill Cassel.

He's not starting material at age 33. Just like I've been telling you since he was signed.

wild1
08-24-2009, 12:32 PM
Get the **** over it.

Goff sucks ass.

Agreed. He's horrible.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:32 PM
My friend went to the game he said it was amazing how much teaching Vrabel was doing. Is he just an average player now? Sure but I really do think he's a leader on defense something this defense hasn't had in years. I don't know much about these linemen but I will say Pioli has done a good job at brining in some talent (Mays) and it looks like the Chiefs will have 3 7th round draft picks starting. Hows that for value?

Oh, I'm sure that Vrabel is doing well in that role but as a player, he's not a guy that you can count on to bring you 10 sacks at this point.

tomahawk kid
08-24-2009, 12:33 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

Awesome.

OnTheWarpath58
08-24-2009, 12:34 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

Starting in Miami? Probably not.

Starting in KC?

I'd be shocked if they aren't both Week One starters.

If healthy, Alleman is an upgrade over Niswanger, and Ndukwe is a rather large upgrade over Goff, IMO.

FWIW, I'm not grading Goff based solely on his matchup with Williams. He sucked the week before as well, plus the Chargers were pretty outspoken about how bad he had declined when they chose to release him.

Depending on compensation going the other way, this move has the potential to be a steal for the Chiefs.

DaWolf
08-24-2009, 12:35 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

They should fit right in with another one of our former Dolphins linemen, McIntosh...

Just Passin' By
08-24-2009, 12:36 PM
Oh, I'm sure that Vrabel is doing well in that role but as a player, he's not a guy that you can count on to bring you 10 sacks at this point.

Given that he's only gotten 10 sacks once in his career, this shouldn't surprise anyone. He's an all around player, not a pass rushing specialist.

OnTheWarpath58
08-24-2009, 12:36 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

You might be reading the FinHeaven equivalent to SensibleChiefsFan and chiefzilla for all you know.

Chiefnj2
08-24-2009, 12:37 PM
According to Dolphin fans Ndukew is a mauler. Good power run blocking, poor at everything else. It's hard to get a read on Alleman since he is allegedly hurt all the time.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:37 PM
Given that he's only gotten 10 sacks once in his career, this shouldn't surprise anyone. He's an all around player, not a pass rushing specialist.

Which is further proof that the Chiefs will once again vie for the title of least sacks in the NFL.

Who's going to get the sacks? Hali? LMAO

dirk digler
08-24-2009, 12:38 PM
I must have hurt Pioli's feelings when I said I gave him his first strike by not fixing the O-Line. So since he decided to not stand pat like Carl would have I will subtract 1/2 a strike. I hope that makes him feel better.

aturnis
08-24-2009, 12:39 PM
Petro talked to a media guy in Miami who said neither one of these guys were in danger of being cut and both were quality linemen.

Alleman had been running with the 3rd team, but was in no danger of being cut huh?:spock: Also listed as 3rd on the teams depth chart.

As for Ndukwe, he did start 15 games last year, but reports show he was in a battle for the starting job, and I believe he lost that job. Ndukwe was moved to RT and was listed as 2nd team on the teams depth chart.

LTL
08-24-2009, 12:40 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

Ndukew started for them last year for 15 games. They had a good running game and gave Pennington decent protection. He was part of that. Not saying he is great, but will be better than what we currently have.

Not saying what they aren't saying isn't true, but we could trade Bowe and people would make him out to be a scrub that should be on the practice squad

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:40 PM
Does anyone know anything about these guys the Chiefs traded for? A few years ago Miamis o-line sucked. It's a surprise they fixed it so quickly.

DaWolf
08-24-2009, 12:40 PM
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest
Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

We just found out something about new Kansas City general manager Scott Pioli: He is going to aggressively try to fix problem areas.

After the Chiefs' offensive line struggled in the first two preseason games, Pioli has made a move to improve both the starting lineup and the depth on the unit.

Pioli acquired guard/tackle Ike Ndukwe and guard/center Andy Alleman from Miami. Ndukwe started 15 games at guard last season and he was moved to tackle this season. He could push both guard Mike Goff and tackle Barry Richardson in Kansas City. Both Goff and Richardson have struggled. Alleman could potentially push for a starting spot at guard if Ndukwe wins the tackle job.

Ndukwe and Alleman were Miami's starting guards in its playoff game against Baltimore. Last season, Alleman started four games for the Dolphins.

These two aren't world-beater players, but they can upgrade Kansas City's line. The move shows Pioli is willing to do what it takes to address problem areas. Kansas City coach Todd Haley had said new quarterback Matt Cassel may have to make plays with his feet because of the line issues. Perhaps these moves will give Cassel more time.

Meanwhile, Kansas City cut linebacker Vince Redd, who was with Pioli in New England.

Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, Scott Pioli, Ike Ndukwe, Andy Alleman, Mike Goff, Barry Richardson, Todd Haley, Matt Cassel, Vince Redd

Chief Faithful
08-24-2009, 12:41 PM
It takes more then 1 start in a pre-season game before you can judge a player.

Maybe so, but it was Haley that stated his first start was not good enough. I'm glad we have a HC and GM that recognize problems and seek solutions.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:41 PM
Which is further proof that the Chiefs will once again vie for the title of least sacks in the NFL.

Who's going to get the sacks? Hali? LMAO

Did you watch Hali fuck up Bryant McKinnie on a snap last week?

Keep telling us everyone on the team sucks. Maybe someday it will come true.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:41 PM
From what I'm reading on Dolphins boards, it doesn't sound like either guy is close to starting material. Alleman supposedly is always battling back injuries, and Ndukew is a revolving door.

Considering we have maybe 5 people out of 11,000 on Chiefsplanet that actually watches and breaks down offensive line play, I wouldn't put too much stock into any internet forum analysis without due diligence.

FringeNC
08-24-2009, 12:42 PM
An interesting question is whether this move was in response to how the O-line has played in the first two pre-season games, or Parcells and Pioli had this in the works for a long time, and Parcells was just determining what linemen weren't going to make the roster.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:42 PM
Did you watch Hali fuck up Bryant McKinnie on a snap last week?

Keep telling us everyone on the team sucks. Maybe someday it will come true.

Yay! He made ONE play the entire HALF.

Urine idiot.

KCUnited
08-24-2009, 12:42 PM
I think Goff sucks, but I believe Ndukwe will compete for the RT job.

riskrevival
08-24-2009, 12:43 PM
i'd rather acquire young guys like this who suck then all these old washed up signings we made. at least with young dudes there is room to improve, even if it's just a little. going out and signing middle of the road 30 somethings obviously was not the way and they are just realizing that now after two preseason games...

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:46 PM
i'd rather acquire young guys like this who suck then all these old washed up signings we made. at least with young dudes there is room to improve, even if it's just a little. going out and signing middle of the road 30 somethings obviously was not the way and they are just realizing that now after two preseason games...

I wouldn't say these guys "suck". Usually when the Pats made trades the guys they traded for contributed to the team. Unlike Carl Peterson.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:47 PM
Yay! He made ONE play the entire HALF.

Urine idiot.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that, either...

This team will not challenge for the league low in sacks. Had anyone else but Brett Favre been throwing the other day they get to the quarterback at least 3 times....

Hali, Mays and Vrabel ALL got close in two series.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:49 PM
going out and signing middle of the road 30 somethings obviously was not the way and they are just realizing that now after two preseason games...

I don't buy that. These particular guys weren't available.

There's going to be a lot of acquisitions made before opening day and that's because guys just weren't available, not because the Chiefs didn't want to sign anyone.

riskrevival
08-24-2009, 12:51 PM
I wouldn't say these guys "suck". Usually when the Pats made trades the guys they traded for contributed to the team. Unlike Carl Peterson.



well you could potentially say that at least one of these dudes has a chance to replace an 33 year old signing we made earlier this offseason. they are already looking to replace guys they signed that never played an actual season game for the chiefs yet. think about how bad that must mean that player is...

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:51 PM
I don't buy that. These particular guys weren't available.

There's going to be a lot of acquisitions made before opening day and that's because guys just weren't available, not because the Chiefs didn't want to sign anyone.

You mean Pioli isn't just trying to sell tickets? That was prolly the funniest thing people said when it came to Peterson "blah blah he just wants to sell tickets."

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 12:51 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't say that, either...

This team will not challenge for the league low in sacks. Had anyone else but Brett Favre been throwing the other day they get to the quarterback at least 3 times....

Hali, Mays and Vrabel ALL got close in two series.

Close? Who gives a fuck about close?

Once there was a QB who wasn't 39 years old out there, they couldn't do jackshit. No pressure. And they couldn't stop Tavarris Jackson of all people!

More than 200 yards and 2 TD's.

This defense is going to be bad.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 12:53 PM
Close? Who gives a fuck about close?

It was BRETT FAVRE.

He gets rid of the ball. It's hard to sack him. You of all people should know that.


This defense is going to be bad.

Remind me how many points the starters gave up again?

Oh, was it 7? In one half?

Keep trying, Dane.

When you wish upon a star, the Chiefs will suck and not go far...

DeezNutz
08-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Loving the trade.

Pioli clearly understands the importance of bringing in guys to establish chemistry with McIntosh.

wild1
08-24-2009, 12:54 PM
Close? Who gives a **** about close?

Once there was a QB who wasn't 39 years old out there, they couldn't do jackshit. No pressure. And they couldn't stop Tavarris Jackson of all people!

More than 200 yards and 2 TD's.

This defense is going to be bad.

No kidding...

You already lost the WIPE credentials, the ballwashing can end at any time

googlegoogle
08-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Close? Who gives a **** about close?

Once there was a QB who wasn't 39 years old out there, they couldn't do jackshit. No pressure. And they couldn't stop Tavarris Jackson of all people!

More than 200 yards and 2 TD's.

This defense is going to be bad.

Bad was last year. Trying to dig out of your hole?

Short Leash Hootie
08-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Dane is an offensive line guru...he breaks down all the film in his free time.

LMAO

God, I just hate reading his know-it-all bullshit. He truly thinks his shit doesn't stink.

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 12:56 PM
Dane is an offensive line guru...he breaks down all the film in his free time.

LMAO

God, I just hate reading his know-it-all bullshit. He truly thinks his shit doesn't stink.

Says the guy with the stupidest fucking name on the message board.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:00 PM
Actually Hootie's new moniker is hilarious....

Chocolate Hog
08-24-2009, 01:01 PM
It would have been funny in the 90's

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:03 PM
Dane is an offensive line guru...he breaks down all the film in his free time.

LMAO

God, I just hate reading his know-it-all bullshit. He truly thinks his shit doesn't stink.

My shit stinks plenty.

But that's doesn't mean that you aren't the biggest fucking moron to "grace" this forum.

You're a fucking joke and everyone knows it.

Go pee on your roommate and suck his cock. You're not needed around here.

Short Leash Hootie
08-24-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't give a shit what my username is...you can all change it to whatever you want...as long as I know what to type when I login I'm fine...

Short Leash Hootie
08-24-2009, 01:07 PM
My shit stinks plenty.

But that's doesn't mean that you aren't the biggest ****ing moron to "grace" this forum.

You're a ****ing joke and everyone knows it.

Go pee on your roommate and suck his cock. You're not needed around here.

Well, be that as it may...

At least I don't destroy every Chiefs related thread with the same bullshit every single fucking day...

We get it, man...you think the Chiefs are talentless and have no shot to ever win a game and blah blah blah blah blah blah....

We understand you don't appreciate any optimism. We get it...just shut the fuck up about it already.

Pestilence
08-24-2009, 01:08 PM
Well, be that as it may...

At least I don't destroy every Chiefs related thread with the same bullshit every single fucking day...

We get it, man...you think the Chiefs are talentless and have no shot to ever win a game and blah blah blah blah blah blah....

We understand you don't appreciate any optimism. We get it...just shut the fuck up about it already.

And we know you hate Dane and love Halo.....just shut the fuck up about it already.

Micjones
08-24-2009, 01:08 PM
If it's all about chemistry then why isn't the left side of our line better? Alberts/Waters/Niswanger have been together for quite awhile.

What do you mean?
The LEFT side (Albert/Waters) is the strength of our line...

Mr. Arrowhead
08-24-2009, 01:10 PM
wow this is interesting
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/KC

Coach Todd Haley said the Chiefs have had scouts at every preseason game in a continual search to upgrade their talent. "I've told our players they aren't just competing with the guys on the roster -- they're competing against the entire league."

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:10 PM
Well, be that as it may...

At least I don't destroy every Chiefs related thread with the same bullshit every single fucking day...

We get it, man...you think the Chiefs are talentless and have no shot to ever win a game and blah blah blah blah blah blah....

We understand you don't appreciate any optimism. We get it...just shut the fuck up about it already.

http://www.colectiva.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lkzyz89efm_clap.gif

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:13 PM
Oh, this how it's going to be, Clay?

HC_Chief
08-24-2009, 01:13 PM
Coach Todd Haley said the Chiefs have had scouts at every preseason game in a continual search to upgrade their talent. "I've told our players they aren't just competing with the guys on the roster -- they're competing against the entire league."

Nice! :thumb:

DaFace
08-24-2009, 01:14 PM
wow this is interesting
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/KC

I'm sure most teams do, but still, the fact that Haley told the team that is a pretty good indicator that he thinks our talent level is shit.

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:15 PM
Just relax. Someone will look dumb eventually.

DeezNutz
08-24-2009, 01:16 PM
http://rlv.zcache.com/100_true_fan_tshirt-p235244873908969171t5tr_400.jpg

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:20 PM
I'm sure most teams do, but still, the fact that Haley told the team that is a pretty good indicator that he thinks our talent level is shit.

Scott Pioli, since the day he was hired, said that the roster would be in a constant state of flux until they had the "right" 53 man roster.

Right now, I think he's only about 40 guys away.

wild1
08-24-2009, 01:21 PM
Well, be that as it may...

At least I don't destroy every Chiefs related thread with the same bullshit every single ****ing day...

the threads he posts in degenerate because the people who don't like what he says go straight to "i hate dane"

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:22 PM
Well, be that as it may...

At least I don't destroy every Chiefs related thread with the same bullshit every single fucking day...

We get it, man...you think the Chiefs are talentless and have no shot to ever win a game and blah blah blah blah blah blah....

We understand you don't appreciate any optimism. We get it...just shut the fuck up about it already.

Why don't you shut the fuck up?

You're a such a fucking ignorant assface that football is somehow equated to fucking rocket science. Watching a specific player and charting his play throughout a series or a half isn't difficult and with Tivo, it's not even time consuming.

You're on a fucking football forum. Why don't you find a forum for cocksuckers that like to pee on their male roommates?

I'm sure there's plenty to found.

DeezNutz
08-24-2009, 01:25 PM
Why don't you shut the **** up?

You're a such a ****ing ignorant assface that football is somehow equated to ****ing rocket science. Watching a specific player and charting his play throughout a series or a half isn't difficult and with Tivo, it's not even time consuming.

You're on a ****ing football forum. Why don't you find a forum for one who sucks the peniss that like to pee on their male roommates?

I'm sure there's plenty to found.

Fatchatter?

I keed, Phobia.

'Hamas' Jenkins
08-24-2009, 01:25 PM
Why don't you shut the fuck up?

You're a such a fucking ignorant assface that football is somehow equated to fucking rocket science. Watching a specific player and charting his play throughout a series or a half isn't difficult and with Tivo, it's not even time consuming.

You're on a fucking football forum. Why don't you find a forum for cocksuckers that like to pee on their male roommates?

I'm sure there's plenty to found.

http://www.funny-potato.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lolcano.gif

King_Chief_Fan
08-24-2009, 01:28 PM
Just relax. Someone will look dumb eventually.

pay attention people.....right there is the voice of experience.

the Talking Can
08-24-2009, 01:28 PM
wow this is interesting
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/KC

:clap:

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:29 PM
pay attention people.....right there is the voice of experience.

So much for your apology, huh, douchebag?

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:30 PM
http://www.funny-potato.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lolcano.gif

This made me laugh irreverently.

DeezNutz
08-24-2009, 01:30 PM
Where's the LOLCOCK?

King_Chief_Fan
08-24-2009, 01:31 PM
So much for your apology, huh, douchebag?

when you point out a fact, that is different. still buds?:D

OnTheWarpath58
08-24-2009, 01:32 PM
Where's the LOLCOCK?

Don't have it, this is the best I can do:

http://www.delgenio.com/thestud/roflcopter.gif

HC_Chief
08-24-2009, 01:33 PM
Where's the LOLCOCK?

No one wants to see that

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:33 PM
No one wants to see that

Hootie probably does

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:34 PM
Where's the LOLCOCK?

Now that I gotta see.

A LOLCOCK spewing LOLCUM.

HC_Chief
08-24-2009, 01:39 PM
Now that I gotta see.

A LOLCOCK spewing LOLCUM.

I stand corrected.
:Lin:

Douche Baggins
08-24-2009, 01:40 PM
C'mon, that would be funny as shit.

If you can't enjoy looking at a cock just for the inherent, silly humor in it, you gotta lighten up.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:41 PM
C'mon, that would be funny as shit.

If you can't enjoy looking at a cock just for the inherent, silly humor in it, you gotta lighten up.

Uh...

HC_Chief
08-24-2009, 01:43 PM
C'mon, that would be funny as shit.

If you can't enjoy looking at a cock just for the inherent, silly humor in it, you gotta lighten up.

:spock:
Whiskey
Tango
Foxtrot

DeezNutz
08-24-2009, 01:44 PM
All the pissing and sucking allusions apparently caused my keyboard to malfunction.

My bad.

Micjones
08-24-2009, 01:44 PM
I'm sure most teams do, but still, the fact that Haley told the team that is a pretty good indicator that he thinks our talent level is shit.

I think it also has psychological value and will pay dividends right here in Kansas City. It'll help him get the most of his players.

Mr. Arrowhead
08-24-2009, 01:46 PM
I'm sure most teams do, but still, the fact that Haley told the team that is a pretty good indicator that he thinks our talent level is shit.

they prolly do, but im guessing Carl didnt, it just seemed like after FA and draft was over carl just kicked up his feet and said im done until next offseason.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:47 PM
I think it also has psychological value and will pay dividends right here in Kansas City. It'll help him get the most of his players.

The problem is that I think he already has gotten the most out of his players.

And that's the reason for the trades.

This is far from the last transaction this team will make.

DaneMcCloud
08-24-2009, 01:47 PM
they prolly do, but im guessing Carl didnt, it just seemed like after FA and draft was over carl just kicked up his feet and said im done until next offseason.

Who gives a shit? Carl's gone.

Get over it.

dirk digler
08-24-2009, 01:48 PM
C'mon, that would be funny as shit.

If you can't enjoy looking at a cock just for the inherent, silly humor in it, you gotta lighten up.

Are you sure you are not gay?

NTTAWWT

Shaid
08-24-2009, 01:51 PM
http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/59/598440.jpg

Is that blood under his nose? My kinda lineman. :thumb:

Micjones
08-24-2009, 01:51 PM
The problem is that I think he already has gotten the most out of his players.

And that's the reason for the trades.

This is far from the last transaction this team will make.

Perhaps with some of the players.
I think others are prepared to take that next step.

I agreet that this probably won't be the last transaction.
I think the RT spot still needs to be addressed.
And we could use someone in the KR/PR spot.
We got nothing there.

Deberg_1990
08-24-2009, 01:58 PM
The problem is that I think he already has gotten the most out of his players.

And that's the reason for the trades.

This is far from the last transaction this team will make.


Agreed. I dont understand why alot of fans cant seem to understand that this team doesnt have alot of talent? There is a REASON this team was picking #3 overall.

Have patience. Its going to take a little time to build the talent level back up to snuff.

Some of these "true fans" need to relax and realize that we will only be winning 4-6 games this year. It will make the season alot more enjoyable.

HC_Chief
08-24-2009, 02:05 PM
Agreed. I dont understand why alot of fans cant seem to understand that this team doesnt have alot of talent? There is a REASON this team was picking #3 overall.

Have patience. Its going to take a little time to build the talent level back up to snuff.

Some of these "true fans" need to relax and realize that we will only be winning 4-6 games this year. It will make the season alot more enjoyable.

Sad that 6 wins would equal the last two seasons' combined output.

I've got them at 5-11.

At least they'll be mediocre/bad rather than just plain shitty (JPS).

Just Passin' By
08-24-2009, 02:09 PM
Sad that 6 wins would equal the last two seasons' combined output.

I've got them at 5-11.

At least they'll be mediocre/bad rather than just plain shitty (JPS).

I've got them around 5 wins as well, but it reminds me of a scene.....

http://www.walkoffwalk.com/cinema.majorleague.groundskeepers.jpg

OnTheWarpath58
08-24-2009, 02:26 PM
De La Puente was just waived apparently.

rockymtnchief
08-24-2009, 02:35 PM
De La Puente was just waived apparently.

Yup

Sure-Oz
08-24-2009, 03:05 PM
Chiefs acquire Gs Ndukwe, Alleman from 'Fins

Chiefs acquired OGs Ikechuku Ndukwe and Andy Alleman from the Dolphins in exchange for an undisclosed draft pick in 2010.

It must have been an interesting Sunday night dinner for Bill Parcells and his son-in-law, Chiefs GM Scott Pioli. Ndukwe could start at right guard for the Chiefs, and Alleman may be pushed to center where he'd be an upgrade on Rudy Niswanger and Eric Ghiaciuc. The Dolphins are obviously happy with the progress of guards Donald Thomas and Shawn Murphy. Aug. 24 - 12:34 pm et
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