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John_Wayne
08-26-2009, 08:32 AM
http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html :cuss:

seclark
08-26-2009, 08:34 AM
http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html :cuss:

once again...wrong forum, shit-for-brains.
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Demonpenz
08-26-2009, 08:35 AM
mostly from the war in iraq

ChiefJustice
08-26-2009, 08:36 AM
once again...wrong forum, shit-for-brains.
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agreed....the off-season is over.

ROYC75
08-26-2009, 09:40 AM
Impressive #'s, let's see if we can add to it?

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 09:43 AM
JFC.

ROYC75
08-26-2009, 09:47 AM
JFC.

OK, what does this mean ? I'm hoping it's not what I think.

Donger
08-26-2009, 09:49 AM
Pretty amazing that Medicare and SS make up, what, ~$1 trillion/year, isn't it?

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 09:50 AM
JFC.

But,but....you don't even believe in JC! :shake:

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 09:51 AM
Our govt is bankrupt, many people in our nation are bankrupt, big auto is bankrupt and many banks. Savings, private and public are wiped out or low. Millions have lost jobs. But we're gonna get universal health insurance in the midst of it all.

Yet, the folks who support all this call free-marketers the utopians! Classic projection. LMAO

Donger
08-26-2009, 09:52 AM
And, $300 billion paying the interest on the debt alone (not paying down the principal).

Do people really understand how revolting that is?

ROYC75
08-26-2009, 09:56 AM
But,but....you don't even believe in JC! :shake:

Jesus had no middle name that started with an F.

How in the world can the Dems and Libs seem to think that we can pay for HC with numbers like this going crazy?

Where is our country heading too ? We will be a 3rd world country soon if we keep this up. We are spend our way there, right into poverty.

ROYC75
08-26-2009, 09:57 AM
And, $300 billion paying the interest on the debt alone (not paying down the principal).

Do people really understand how revolting that is?

I do, cut spending, cut taxes, we need to stop the bleeding, now, not later when it gets farther out of hand.

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 09:58 AM
Jesus had no middle name that started with an F.

How in the world can the Dems and Libs seem to think that we can pay for HC with numbers like this going crazy?

Where is our country heading too ? We will be a 3rd world country soon if we keep this up. We are spend our way there, right into poverty.

That might be the whole idea ending in China ruling us because we owe them so much. If we don't pay, then possibly a war or invasion with the blessings of the UN. Afterall, the left has wanted to communize America for long time but they call their ideas "progressive" to disguise the truth of what it is.

jidar
08-26-2009, 01:48 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~bmcclen/outrageous.jpg

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 01:57 PM
But,but....you don't even believe in JC! :shake:

It's just a phrase. Heck, if I was a firm believer in him, it would be blasphemy, so I wouldn't use that phrase, right? :p

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 01:57 PM
OK, what does this mean ? I'm hoping it's not what I think.

Then it's not.

KC Dan
08-26-2009, 01:58 PM
http://uranus.ckt.net/~bmcclen/outrageous.jpg
Actually...See links. Not even $1 Trillion on BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan combined but don't let the truth be in the open. Read the links and learn.


http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

http://costofwar.com/

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 01:58 PM
I do, cut spending, cut taxes, we need to stop the bleeding, now, not later when it gets farther out of hand.

Yes. Yes to all this.

Donger
08-26-2009, 01:59 PM
Yes. Yes to all this.

You want tax cuts?

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 01:59 PM
That might be the whole idea ending in China ruling us because we owe them so much. If we don't pay, then possibly a war or invasion with the blessings of the UN. Afterall, the left has wanted to communize America for long time but they call their ideas "progressive" to disguise the truth of what it is.

errr...no. Once again you take a simple fact and extrapolate it to soemthing that makes no sense.

We may default, which will cause a worldwide depression of amazing proportions, but a UN sanctioned invasion as a result of default? We still have a better navy and nukes you silly loon.

Amnorix
08-26-2009, 02:00 PM
You want tax cuts?

Nope, missed that one. How do tax cuts increase governmental revenues? I assume we're not at that point on the Laffer curve.

Donger
08-26-2009, 02:08 PM
Nope, missed that one. How do tax cuts increase governmental revenues? I assume we're not at that point on the Laffer curve.

Just making sure. I don't think taxes should be lowered, either.

jidar
08-26-2009, 02:33 PM
Actually...See links. Not even $1 Trillion on BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan combined but don't let the truth be in the open. Read the links and learn.


http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

http://costofwar.com/

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

I wonder how the cartoonist comes up with $3 trillion. He might be including the DoD portion of the discretionary budget... well some fraction of it anyway since if it was the whole thing then it's well over $3t.

They should have just put $1trillion then, I think the argument is just as effective.

If you consider the cost of health care reform which should be about $100b /year and compare that to the fact that the DoD gets alloted over $200b/year more right now than it did when Clinton was in office. Read that last sentence again, $200b/year just how much their RAISE was since 2000 and that doesn't include the cost of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars which are special apropriations.

http://www.data360.org/temp/dsg805_990_600.jpg


So... maybe I should just link this one.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~bmcclen/difflc.png

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 03:51 PM
I wonder how the cartoonist comes up with $3 trillion. He might be including the DoD portion of the discretionary budget... well some fraction of it anyway since if it was the whole thing then it's well over $3t.

They should have just put $1trillion then, I think the argument is just as effective.

If you consider the cost of health care reform which should be about $100b /year and compare that to the fact that the DoD gets alloted over $200b/year more right now than it did when Clinton was in office. Read that last sentence again, $200b/year just how much their RAISE was since 2000 and that doesn't include the cost of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars which are special apropriations.

http://www.data360.org/temp/dsg805_990_600.jpg


So... maybe I should just link this one.

http://uranus.ckt.net/~bmcclen/difflc.png

Not this Righty. I oppose American Occupied Iraq and Afghanistan but I don't see any lefties dissing Obama for not leaving either of them.
Don't forget the Right that's for those things are not Righties...they're left of center.

Don't forget though, the righties that support those things did believe ( the wrong people in their party the fake righties that are really lefties) we went there to keep
Americans safe. Don't forget that govt health insurance does lead to rationing which means it doesn't save people either.

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 03:55 PM
Jesus had no middle name that started with an F.
Some say it was Frank. Those who use an "H" in the middle say it was Harold.

KC Dan
08-26-2009, 03:56 PM
So... maybe I should just link this one.When are those homecoming parades happening now that the left owns the Executive and Legislative branches? Where is the 24 hr news screaming about it? Shhh? I can't hear it......

ROYC75
08-26-2009, 04:15 PM
Naturally raising taxes is the way to get revenue, but you can't do this during a recession. And anybody who thinks it's over is feeding you a line of crap.

We are in so much debt now, we need jobs. Get the economy stabilized first, put more people back to work, but government doing it is all wrong. It has to come from the private sector, The capitalist way, not a socialist way.

BucEyedPea
08-26-2009, 07:36 PM
mostly from the war in iraq

Nope it's not mostly for that. That's a part of it but not most of it.