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Donger
08-26-2009, 04:37 PM
The babies born in hospital corridors: Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209034/The-babies-born-hospital-corridors-Bed-shortage-forces-4-000-mothers-birth-lifts-offices-hospital-toilets.html

Thousands of women are having to give birth outside maternity wards because of a lack of midwives and hospital beds.

The lives of mothers and babies are being put at risk as births in locations ranging from lifts to toilets - even a caravan - went up 15 per cent last year to almost 4,000.

Health chiefs admit a lack of maternity beds is partly to blame for the crisis, with hundreds of women in labour being turned away from hospitals because they are full.

Latest figures show that over the past two years there were at least:

* 63 births in ambulances and 608 in transit to hospitals;
* 117 births in A&E departments, four in minor injury units and two in medical assessment areas;
* 115 births on other hospital wards and 36 in other unspecified areas including corridors;
* 399 in parts of maternity units other than labour beds, including postnatal and antenatal wards and reception areas.

Additionally, overstretched maternity units shut their doors to any more women in labour on 553 occasions last year.

Babies were born in offices, lifts, toilets and a caravan, according to the Freedom of Information data for 2007 and 2008 from 117 out of 147 trusts which provide maternity services.

One woman gave birth in a lift while being transferred to a labour ward from A&E while another gave birth in a corridor, said East Cheshire NHS Trust.

Others said women had to give birth on the wards - rather than in their own maternity room - because the delivery suites were full.

Tory health spokesman Andrew Lansley, who obtained the figures, said Labour had cut maternity beds by 2,340, or 22 per cent, since 1997. At the same time birth rates have been rising sharply - up 20 per cent in some areas.

Mr Lansley said: 'New mothers should not be being put through the trauma of having to give birth in such inappropriate places.

'While some will be unavoidable emergencies, it is extremely distressing for them and their families to be denied a labour bed because their maternity unit is full.

'It shows the incredible waste that has taken place that mothers are getting this sort of sub-standard treatment despite Gordon Brown's tripling of spending on the NHS.

'Labour have let down mothers by cutting the number of maternity beds and by shutting down maternity units.'

The NHS employs the equivalent of around 25,000 full-time midwives in England, but the Government has promised to recruit 3,400 more.

However, the Royal College of Midwives estimates at least 5,000 more are needed to provide the quality of service pledged in the Government's blueprint for maternity services, Maternity Matters.

At the same time almost half of all midwives are set to retire in the next decade.

Jon Skewes, a director at the Royal College of Midwives, said: 'The rise in the number of births in other than a designated labour bed is a concern. We would want to see the detail behind these figures to look at why this is happening.

'There is no doubt that maternity services are stretched, and that midwives are working harder and harder to provide good quality care. However, we know the Government is putting more money into the service.

'The key now is to make sure this money is spent by the people controlling the purse strings at a local level.'

Care services minister Phil Hope said: 'The number of maternity beds in the NHS reflects the number of women wanting to give birth in hospital. Giving birth can be unpredictableand it is difficult to plan for the exact time and place of every birth.

'Local health services have plans to ensure high quality, personal care with greater choice over place of birth and care provided by a named midwife.

'We recognise that some parts of the country face particular challenges due to the rising birth rate and that is why last year we pledged to increase funding for maternity by 330million over three years.

'We now have more maternity staff than ever before and we have already met our target to recruit 1,000 extra midwives by September.'

Rain Man
08-26-2009, 04:44 PM
This is why they should be teaching abstinence in schools.

Donger
08-26-2009, 04:45 PM
This is why they should be teaching abstinence in schools.

Especially in the hallways.

Taco John
08-26-2009, 05:16 PM
This is very interesting. It's easy for me to believe that free health care would cause a population boom in America as a result of the removal of moral hazard where doctor bills are concerned. Another baby boom would send shockwaves through a system like that. I don't know how anybody could believe that rationing wouldn't take place, not to mention a myriad of other effects to the original cause.

I really believe that the Democrats are looking at this issue very shortsightedly, and that their ideas on health care reform would be disasterous (even ruinous) for this country.

Simplex3
08-26-2009, 05:20 PM
'It shows the incredible waste that has taken place that mothers are getting this sort of sub-standard treatment despite Gordon Brown's tripling of spending on the NHS.

More money solves everything.

wild1
08-26-2009, 05:22 PM
Tripled spending and it still doesn't pass muster.

Brock
08-26-2009, 05:26 PM
Most of the time babies should be born at home anyway.

Saul Good
08-26-2009, 06:55 PM
This is very interesting. It's easy for me to believe that free health care would cause a population boom in America as a result of the removal of moral hazard where doctor bills are concerned. Another baby boom would send shockwaves through a system like that. I don't know how anybody could believe that rationing wouldn't take place, not to mention a myriad of other effects to the original cause.

I really believe that the Democrats are looking at this issue very shortsightedly, and that their ideas on health care reform would be disasterous (even ruinous) for this country.

I agree with your premise that this could lead to a baby boom, but I disagree with your conclusion that this would be foolish for the Democrats (at least in their minds). They operate the biggest Ponzi schemes in the history of mankind. They need another baby boom, and they need it now to keep this house of cards from collapsing.

tiptap
08-27-2009, 08:01 AM
Just for the record, my wife admitted 4 neonates last night and one of them would have been tabulated as being born outside a maternity bed. So the question is what is the rate of at home, ambulance, ER, etc births in any modern hospital setting to make a comparison and complaint.

talastan
08-27-2009, 10:32 AM
This is very interesting. It's easy for me to believe that free health care would cause a population boom in America as a result of the removal of moral hazard where doctor bills are concerned. Another baby boom would send shockwaves through a system like that. I don't know how anybody could believe that rationing wouldn't take place, not to mention a myriad of other effects to the original cause.

I really believe that the Democrats are looking at this issue very shortsightedly, and that their ideas on health care reform would be disasterous (even ruinous) for this country.

Imagine if another baby boom happened, with the precipitous decline in available resources, Mr. John Holdren's dream of population control would be much better received. :shake:

Direckshun
08-27-2009, 12:24 PM
I really believe that the Democrats are looking at this issue very shortsightedly, and that their ideas on health care reform would be disasterous (even ruinous) for this country.

Exactly how many countries have been "ruined" after expanding healthcare to their citizenry?

Taco John
08-27-2009, 01:29 PM
Exactly how many countries have been "ruined" after expanding healthcare to their citizenry?

You're looking through a warped prism. Any success that they have had in sustaining that system is tainted by the fact that WE'RE subsidizing THEIR national security. Now you want to add a national healthcare program to our burden? That's absolutely nuts. It would be ruinous.

Inspector
08-27-2009, 02:11 PM
This is very interesting. It's easy for me to believe that free health care would cause a population boom in America as a result of the removal of moral hazard where doctor bills are concerned. Another baby boom would send shockwaves through a system like that. I don't know how anybody could believe that rationing wouldn't take place, not to mention a myriad of other effects to the original cause.

I really believe that the Democrats are looking at this issue very shortsightedly, and that their ideas on health care reform would be disasterous (even ruinous) for this country.

Maybe some people don't care about the long term effects and just simply want to win their arguments.