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patteeu
08-28-2009, 09:03 AM
He's going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq. He doesn't have anything close to the resolve required to win in Afghanistan. He stood by while freedom protestors were brutalized by the repressive Iranian regime. He's taken a bizarrely hard line position against Israel. And in Honduras, his actions are indefensible. Obama's foreign policy is quickly becoming a disaster, IMO.

From HotAir:

Disgrace: State Dept ready to cut off millions in aid to Honduras over “military coup” (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/27/disgrace-state-dept-ready-to-cut-off-millions-in-aid-to-honduras-over-military-coup/)
posted at 8:20 pm on August 27, 2009 by Allahpundit

This would be the same “coup” that was ordered by the country’s supreme court (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/28/wsj-white-house-tried-to-prevent-honduran-presidents-ouster/) pursuant to its constitution and carried out with the support of the legislature, including members of Zelaya’s own party. Hillary’s held off on using that terminology until now because by law she’ll have to cut funding to Honduras once the formal assessment is made, but it looks like the moment of truth is at hand. It’s a travesty, but what do you expect? Obama’s hot to prove to the world’s tyrants that, unlike his cowboy predecessor, he’s a man they can do business with. And he’s invested enough political capital in this horrible decision by now — maneuvering to block Zelaya’s ouster (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/28/wsj-white-house-tried-to-prevent-honduran-presidents-ouster/) before it happened, calling it “illegal” (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/29/video-the-coup-in-honduras-was-illegal-says-obama/) after it did, and slowly turning up the pressure ever since (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/25/state-dept-suspends-honduras-visa-service/) — that he’d lose face if he relented and embraced the new president. So here we are (http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed1/idUSN27328207):

U.S. State Department staff have recommended that the ouster of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya be declared a “military coup,” a U.S. official said on Thursday, a step that could cut off as much as $150 million in U.S. funding to the impoverished Central American nation.

The official, who spoke on condition he not be named, said State Department staff had made such a recommendation to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who has yet to make a decision on the matter although one was likely soon…

Diplomats said that the United States had held off making the formal determination to give diplomacy a chance to yield a negotiated compromise that might allow for Zelaya’s return to power.

Such efforts, however, appear to have failed for now and so the United States is taking steps — including its decision on Tuesday to cease issuing some visas at its embassy in Tegucigalpa — to raise pressure on the de facto government.

I hope The One trots Hillary out to make this announcement instead of doing it himself; that would fit nicely with his buck-passing (http://ace.mu.nu/archives/291277.php#291277) on Holder’s CIA inquiry. For all the well deserved grief we’ve given him over Iran, nothing he’s said or done about that — yet — approaches the awfulness of his ass-backwards priorities on Honduras. Good work, Barry.

ROYC75
08-28-2009, 09:16 AM
9:16AM and no jAZ to rebuttal ?

HC_Chief
08-28-2009, 09:18 AM
BHO must have read the book Chavez gave him.

wild1
08-28-2009, 10:16 AM
I never thought I would say this, but I think if Hillary were president we'd be getting a significant upgrade.

Say what you will about her, at least we'd have a measured foreign policy that would make some form of sense, even if I didn't agree with most points, instead of this amateurish, high-school-civics-project garbage. Look at a similar situation in Haiti, Clinton eventually was able to get a net positive outcome. They got North Korea to at least agree on the framework for a period of years around nuclear energy even though they reneged on it later. They gave a measured response in the balkans that I think was a fairly effective response to that situation.

Certainly there were failures in more than a few areas, but it was light years better than this. It seems during the Clinton years that after politics were played, they realized what needed to be done and took care of it. They didn't think schmoozing is all the foreign policy we need, they did things differently than I would, but they got the major points right a lot of the time.

BucEyedPea
08-28-2009, 10:45 AM
Hey, patteeu there's no intention of any victory in either Iraq or Afghanistan. It's about permanent occupation so the war on terror is a self fulfilling prophecy of being a war that may never end.

patteeu
08-28-2009, 10:48 AM
Hey, patteeu there's no intention of any victory in either Iraq or Afghanistan. It's about permanent occupation so the war on terror is a self fulfilling prophecy of being a war that may never end.

Link?

BucEyedPea
08-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Link?

Link for the obvious. What are we doing on both places right now? Occupying them. Oh and I see bases along a natural gas pipeline. Who said this is a war that may never end?
You need to just #1 observe what we're doing, hear McCain say 100 years is okay if no casualties and from there see the intention. Pretty much a first grader can figure it out.
But you need a link? "Er well, I supplied plenty over the past few years. Check the archive or just observe actions or the obvious.

patteeu
08-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Link for the obvious. What are we doing on both places right now? Occupying them. Oh and I see bases along a natural gas pipeline. Who said this is a war that may never end?
You need to just #1 observe what we're doing, hear McCain say 100 years is okay if no casualties and from there see the intention. Pretty much a first grader can figure it out.
But you need a link? "Er well, I supplied plenty over the past few years. Check the archive or just observe actions or the obvious.

It's obvious to me that you're not a keen observer of anything but Lew-style propaganda.

mlyonsd
08-28-2009, 02:11 PM
Link for the obvious. What are we doing on both places right now? Occupying them. Oh and I see bases along a natural gas pipeline. Who said this is a war that may never end?
You need to just #1 observe what we're doing, hear McCain say 100 years is okay if no casualties and from there see the intention. Pretty much a first grader can figure it out.
But you need a link? "Er well, I supplied plenty over the past few years. Check the archive or just observe actions or the obvious.

Most mushrooms should be cooked before consuming.

wild1
08-28-2009, 02:12 PM
Most mushrooms should be cooked before consuming.

not the kind he's on

BucEyedPea
08-28-2009, 04:14 PM
not the kind he's on

she

BucEyedPea
08-28-2009, 04:14 PM
It's obvious to me that you're not a keen observer of anything but Lew-style propaganda.

Says the Bushie projectionist extraordinaire who drank the Bushie Kool-Aid!
That's better'n statist-style propaganda! And you guys complain about the Ds?

Pssst! And that material is from Justin Raimondo and Ron Paul.