View Full Version : Obama Pay Raises and Ophoney math

08-31-2009, 10:39 PM
This guy is so phoney it isnt even funny. He can pass out billions to Hammas and the UN, squander over a trillion on his porkulus and omnibusporkulus....then he has the unmitigated gall to say he wont give an extra 20 million in salaries because of 9-11? This is OPhoneys way od dealing with a 12Trillion dollar deficit.

A bigger question is why are they getting any raise? The government continues to reward people with jobs and raises with no focus on the output (it generally sucks). The only federal employees who deserve a raise are the ones in uniform.

And true its socialist roots, instead of firing the least productive and giving the savings to those who shoulder the load, he keeps the dregs and still gives them a raise.

Obama cuts pay raises for federal workers
By Sam Youngman - 08/31/09 04:45 PM ET
President Barack Obama is cutting federal employees’ pay increases next year because of the budget deficit.

In an Aug. 31 letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Obama said he would use his power to reduce the federal employee pay raise set for January 2010 from 2.4 percent to 2.0 percent.

“The growth in federal requirements is straining the federal budget,” wrote Obama. His letter said a 2.4 percent increase would cost $19.9 billion more than the 2 percent increase he proposed in his 2010 budget.

The Congressional Budget Office last week set the fiscal year deficit at $1.6 trillion, the highest deficit ever in the post-World War II era. The Office of Management and Budget estimated the 10-year deficit to 2019 had expanded from $7 trillion to $9 trillion.

Republicans have hammered Obama and congressional Democrats over the size of the budget deficit, and have used it to argue the national cannot afford healthcare reform. Democrats say their healthcare legislation will reduce costs and improve the country’s fiscal health in the long run.

The president can impose a new pay plan if he views the raises that would otherwise take place as being inappropriate because of a national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare.”

Obama noted the 9.5 percent unemployment rate in June, and wrote that, “few would disagree that our country is facing serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare.”

In addition to citing the national unemployment rate, which dipped to 9.4 percent in July, Obama said his decision was also based on the state of emergency the nation continues to endure following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Obama said he did not believe the change in the planned raises would hurt the government’s ability to recruit and retain well-qualified employees. He is required to make that determination under law.

House members from districts full of federal employees have called on the White House in future years to provide the same increases to civilian federal employees that it seeks to give to members of the military. The 2010 budget passed by Congress follows Obama's proposal to increase military pay by 2.9 percent and federal civilian pay by 2 percent.

Spokespersons for House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Rep. James Moran (D-Va.) said that the lawmakers understood the need for small pay increases during the recession, but they're looking forward to working with the White House on pay parity for military and civilian workers in future years.

"Though [Hoyer] believes it was reasonable to have a smaller adjustment this year during a time of national economic hardship, he was extremely disappointed the administration did not follow pay parity," said Stephanie Lundberg, a Hoyer spokeswoman.

08-31-2009, 11:09 PM
So you want government employees to get a raise? I swear I can't get a read on some of the conservatives around here.

Pete's in another thread arguing that he wants everybody to have the exact same government mandated healthcare.

RCR's arguing in another thread that he wanted us to leave Afghanistan alone from the start.

HCF is arguing that the government should be more proactive in restricting religious exercise.

And now you're in here arguing that federal employees should get a raise.

I thought these were things we criticized braindead moonbats about, not honest, hardworking conservatives.

08-31-2009, 11:10 PM
Late at night you become even less bright.

08-31-2009, 11:22 PM
Late at night you become even less bright.

At least admit this was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

If federal employees got their standard raises during an economic clusterfuck, you or pete would be the first in here to vent your outrage.

Now that Obama's declared that we're in too much of an economic pickle that we need to save money by restricting raises temporarily, you're still pissed.

Just admit this was a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

09-14-2009, 09:25 AM
Larry Sinclair LOL