Iraq was treason

[TFG]

Anyone with even a Third Grade understanding of the Middle East saw right through it. Osama (OBL) and Al Qaeda (AQ) live what is called "the Islamic Lifestyle," and their "manual" states that "Islamic Leaders" who "do not live the lifestyle" should be "overthrown." Saddam smoked and drank. His kids did much much worse. An AQ observing Uday and Kusay raping a mom and offing her kids and husband would immediately attempt to kill Uday and Kusay, and Saddam knew that. Saddam and AQ were not friends at all. Every ally in the Gulf War knew that, which is why they did not join "Iraqi Freedom."

In the Gulf War, George Herbert Walker Bush did "the right thing" if you consider US national interest "the right thing." He united 120 countries to kick Saddam out of Kuwait. Schwarzkopf, Scowcroft, and others insisted that going into Iraq would be a huge mistake. Indeed, even as late as 1995, Cheney was quoted saying going into Iraq would have resulted in "Sunni-Shia civil war." You have never seen a photo with W next to Schwarzkopf. Norman was much more afraid that Iraq would be taken over by Iran because of the Gulf War (Saddam had no air force, 1/3 of his armour etc.). Saddam was a "toothless UN problem" and our heroes in uniform were prevented from being STUCK there by Bush 41's patriotic handling of the Gulf War. Then what happened? The pro Clinton media started screaming that Bush 41 had not "finished the job." What "job?" The UN mission was to kick Saddam out of Kuwait, nothing more. We united 120 countries to do that. Nope, there was a big angle here most Americans never understood. Israel wanted the US to establish a huge base in Iraq to "keep Israel safe." Dick Morris and many other Zionists who supported W after being part of Clinton/Gore 92 jeered Bush 41 for "not finishing the (Israeli) job." Zionists in the media heartily agreed. Indeed, the media coverage in 1992 is still the most biased in history, 2008 notwithstanding.


The US national interest post 911 was to find and wipe out those who were responsible for 911. Every sane country supported our invasion of Afghanistan, because everyone knew who hit us. W, however, only sent 7k troops there initially (we now have 70k), barely enough to take and hold Kabul and Khandahar, much less find and wipe out AQ. Then W admitted OBL was "not a priority." WHAT? How can OUR TERROR be NOT A PRIORITY?

When we arrived in Afghan late in 2001, The Taliban, the larger group within which AQ functioned as a "special force," was at war with something called The Northern Alliance. Who were they? TNA was basically every group in Afghan opposed to the Taliban. Who funded and armed TNA? FOLLOW THIS CLOSELY. Iran. Shia Iran, under then President Rafsanjani (one of the ones opposed to Ahmadinejad), was Sunni Al Qaeda's #1 local enemy. Iran was arming and funding TNA. We deploy to Afghan to fight with TNA against Taliban/AQ - got that? Then what does W do? Yeah, he puts IRAN on the BS "Axis of Evil," flipping off and infuriating those who were supposedly "allied" with our troops in Afghan. W made our deployment in Afghan less safe to say the least. In reality, you do not hear about The Northern Alliance anymore, and haven't since W flipped off Iran. That's TREASON COUNT #1. We had allies in Afghan willing to help us against Taliban/AQ. But W's "priority" was not to get OBL to begin with. W's priority was to GET RE-ELECTED by sukking up to the Zionist Lobby.


The Bush family blamed the Zionist Lobby for the loss in 1992. Bill Clinton quickly became the first US President to no longer oppose Israel's UN violating settlements. Clinton put Zionists Sandy Burglar in charge of US foreign policy as NSA and George Tenet at CIA. Then we find out that Tenet and Burglar did not sent a strike after OBL when a drone plane spotted him. WHY?

Israel's main enemy is Iran. Indeed, the entire purpose of the Zionist Fox News network is to get the US to invade Iran. AQ and OBL, they were enemies of Iran on the other side. Israel, hence, was actually cheering for The Taliban/AQ on 911 in the ongoing at the time war between them and The Northern Alliance. THAT is why Burglar and Tenet didn't want OBL dead. They cared about ISRAEL, not the US. OBL was fighting against Israel's enemy, and they wanted him ALIVE.

Back to 1992, the "lesson" to the Bush family was that the Zionist Lobby had to be "appeased." W's initial campaign went out of its way to recruit some, and promise that he would not make the "mistakes" his pappy made (opposing Israel's UN violating settlements, and, most importantly, dumping the US military into Iraq to perpetually slug it out with all of Israel's enemies (who had nothing to do with 911)). That is why Dick Morris suddenly supported W. Dick Morris is 100% for using the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies. Dick Morris is one of many Zionist Traitors.

Fast forward - 911 happens. W starts telling the CIA to "give me something to work with" about finding a reason to invade Iraq. Lie about WMDs. Lie about a ficticious relation with Osama (Osama himself has cut off fingers of those who smoked in front of him). Grab some "terrorists" and get a "videotaped confession" that Saddam and AQ were "allies." We know the CIA IG, the FBI, and the Pentagon all told Cheney that not only was "torture" illegal, but also that it DID NOT WORK. Why try it? What was the "motive?" After "enhanced interrogations," one and only one Gitmo, later murdered in a Libyan prison, got in front of a camera and lied for Cheney and Tenet, saying Saddam had trained AQ in chem. Immediately, Cheney goes on "Meet The Press" and says "we know Saddam was training AQ in chem." TREASON COUNT #2. Treason count #3 is the Plame affair - lying about yellowcake from Niger and attacking the truth telling CIA agent saying that wasn't true. Treason Count #4 was blurring Sunni AQ into "the terrorists, islamofascists, radical jihadis etc" or all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911, some of which were actually at war with AQ on 911.

The motive for Iraq was re-election in 2004 by appeasing the lobby the Bush family blamed for the loss in 1992 - the Zionist Lobby - Joe Lieberman, Dick Morris, Rupert Murdoch, Ed Koch etc.. Ironically, Bush 41 himself opposed the Iraq invasion by W (as did Schwarzkopf, Scowcroft, Hagel, Bob Novak, Pat Buchanan, Bob Barr).

Every reason given to invade Iraq in 2003 was an intentional lie. Rove had told W that if he invaded Iraq, poll numbers showed an easy re-election. Rove had told W that if he just went after AQ and Taliban and wiped them out quickly, he would not be the "I'm a War President" and lose like his pappy.

The effects of the TREASON were wide ranging and all bad for the US, including Rafsanjani's defeat in 2005 to Ahmadinejad.

Everyone who lied to put our heroes in uniform in Iraq is a genuine TRAITOR and should be prosecuted and hung ASAP.

[blaise]

Thank you Michael Moore.

[HonestChieffan]

I want to purchase the screen rights

[TFG]

Thank you Michael Moore.


In reality, Michael Moore is easily discredited as a left wing liar. Those who watched his movie should have laughed 2 minutes into it, as he claims the FLA 2000 vote total was a lie by Fox News. In reality, every news source reported the same numbers. The question was whether or not the "spoiled ballots" were proportional to party affiliation. If they were, Gore "won." The truth of the recounts, especially by the newspapers, was that the "spoiled ballots" were not proportional, but rather DISPROPORTIONATELY REPUBLICAN, which would suggest Dem cheating in Dem Counties by Dem Canvassing Boards. John Lott later documented that the one demographic that was 50 times more likely to have their ballots tossed was "black Republican."

Nice try, traitor.

[TFG]

I want to purchase the screen rights


And you call yourself "honest?"

:evil:


Get a clue and learn something, 'tard. W sold us out. W was the biggest spender since LBJ. W was not "conservative" at all, except on tax cuts. Why are AQ and OBL still at large? Are you happy they are??

You are a dishonest traitor.

[blaise]

In reality, Michael Moore is easily discredited as a left wing liar. Those who watched his movie should have laughed 2 minutes into it, as he claims the FLA 2000 vote total was a lie by Fox News. In reality, every news source reported the same numbers. The question was whether or not the "spoiled ballots" were proportional to party affiliation. If they were, Gore "won." The truth of the recounts, especially by the newspapers, was that the "spoiled ballots" were not proportional, but rather DISPROPORTIONATELY REPUBLICAN, which would suggest Dem cheating in Dem Counties by Dem Canvassing Boards. John Lott later documented that the one demographic that was 50 times more likely to have their ballots tossed was "black Republican."

Nice try, traitor.

Yes, you caught me. After all these years of anti-Americanism I was finally exposed by TFG on Chiefsplanet.

[Donger]

Survey says!? Thorazine.

[Inspector]

You have really good typing skills. That makes my hands tired just looking at it.

Of course, lots of things make me tired nowadays.

[blaise]

And you call yourself "honest?"

:evil:


Get a clue and learn something, 'tard. W sold us out. W was the biggest spender since LBJ. W was not "conservative" at all, except on tax cuts. Why are AQ and OBL still at large? Are you happy they are??

You are a dishonest traitor.

Ok, let's get this out of the way so I know- are you for real or are you doing like a "kook" schtick?

[blaise]

Something tells me TFG wrote that up and has copied it and pasted it onto like 30 message boards.

[HonestChieffan]

And now, back to the story.

Gotta work on the music for this. Casting.
Maybe do the entire thing in arabic with English subtitles?

Need a hero like some poor farm kid from Nebraska....a refugee from the foreclosed on farm....teaches himself Arabic with a hand me down Rosetta Stone program....

[TFG]

It is truly telling here that nobody has attempted to refute anything I just posted. The "Republican Party" was hijacked in 1998 when Newt Gingrich was couped by Delay, Hastert, and other big spending Bible Thumpers. That is when the GOP started spending and spending like LBJ.

Everyone who still supports Iraq is too dumb to have a clue, too lazy to get a clue, and too hateful to care.

See definition of N WORD...

[TFG]

Ok, let's get this out of the way so I know- are you for real or are you doing like a "kook" schtick?


You have to be a real "kook" to be pleased that W made OBL "not a priority," traitor.

[blaise]

It is truly telling here that nobody has attempted to refute anything I just posted. The "Republican Party" was hijacked in 1998 when Newt Gingrich was couped by Delay, Hastert, and other big spending Bible Thumpers. That is when the GOP started spending and spending like LBJ.

Everyone who still supports Iraq is too dumb to have a clue, too lazy to get a clue, and too hateful to care.

See definition of N WORD...

No thanks.

[blaise]

TFG is obviously a traitor.

[HonestChieffan]

I'd advise all to have tinfoil handy. Just line the inside of a ball cap. Or if your supply is limited, there are reports that a strip around inside the sweat band offers protection as well.

[blaise]

Do you think TFG is actually a Chiefs fan?

[blaise]

I'd advise all to have tinfoil handy. Just line the inside of a ball cap. Or if your supply is limited, there are reports that a strip around inside the sweat band offers protection as well.

TFG = Tin Foil Guy?

[HonestChieffan]

backing into my bunker

[Donger]

Perhaps we should just cut to the chase: What do you think about Israel, TFG?

[blaise]

Perhaps we should just cut to the chase: What do you think about Israel, TFG?

They conspired with the Martians to bring down betamax technology.

[Radar Chief]

TFG = Tin Foil Guy?

The funny part here is the conspiracy theory is itself a conspiracy theory. Why trot out 5-year-old rhetoric now when Obama, who has more than doubled the spending TFG squirts crocodile tears over, has approval ratings sinking faster than the Lusitania? :hmmm:

[patteeu]

What an active imagination. Good story. I was riveted. I especially liked how you loosely tied it to real world events. Your choice of the Jews as the bad guys might be controversial, but I like a writer who takes risks. Have you considered having Cheney implant some kind of miniature electronic control device in Bush 43's head or something like that? That would be cool.

[HonestChieffan]

Perhaps we should just cut to the chase: What do you think about Israel, TFG?

It was taken over by Jooooze and the world just watched.

[Donger]

Treasonous white N-word Bible Thumping Socialists

Because everyone knows that the Byrd is the word!

[blaise]

I just realized I left my lunch out in my car. Those God damned treasonous sandwiches.

[HonestChieffan]

Maybe I can cast Chan Gailey in this, he has free time and very cool first name.

[patteeu]

It is truly telling here that nobody has attempted to refute anything I just posted. The "Republican Party" was hijacked in 1998 when Newt Gingrich was couped by Delay, Hastert, and other big spending Bible Thumpers. That is when the GOP started spending and spending like LBJ.

Everyone who still supports Iraq is too dumb to have a clue, too lazy to get a clue, and too hateful to care.

See definition of N WORD...

You mean you were serious? :eek: ROFL

OK, this is as good a place as any to post this article about the CIA's enhanced interrogation program and it's results:

How a Detainee Became An Asset (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/28/AR2009082803874_pf.html)
Sept. 11 Plotter Cooperated After Waterboarding

By Peter Finn, Joby Warrick and Julie Tate
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, August 29, 2009

After enduring the CIA's harshest interrogation methods and spending more than a year in the agency's secret prisons, Khalid Sheik Mohammed stood before U.S. intelligence officers in a makeshift lecture hall, leading what they called "terrorist tutorials."

In 2005 and 2006, the bearded, pudgy man who calls himself the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks discussed a wide variety of subjects, including Greek philosophy and al-Qaeda dogma. In one instance, he scolded a listener for poor note-taking and his inability to recall details of an earlier lecture.

Speaking in English, Mohammed "seemed to relish the opportunity, sometimes for hours on end, to discuss the inner workings of al-Qaeda and the group's plans, ideology and operatives," said one of two sources who described the sessions, speaking on the condition of anonymity because much information about detainee confinement remains classified. "He'd even use a chalkboard at times."

These scenes provide previously unpublicized details about the transformation of the man known to U.S. officials as KSM from an avowed and truculent enemy of the United States into what the CIA called its "preeminent source" on al-Qaeda. This reversal occurred after Mohammed was subjected to simulated drowning and prolonged sleep deprivation, among other harsh interrogation techniques.

"KSM, an accomplished resistor, provided only a few intelligence reports prior to the use of the waterboard, and analysis of that information revealed that much of it was outdated, inaccurate or incomplete," according to newly unclassified portions of a 2004 report by the CIA's then-inspector general released Monday by the Justice Department.

The debate over the effectiveness of subjecting detainees to psychological and physical pressure is in some ways irresolvable, because it is impossible to know whether less coercive methods would have achieved the same result. But for defenders of waterboarding, the evidence is clear: Mohammed cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent, only when his spirit was broken in the month after his capture March 1, 2003, as the inspector general's report and other documents released this week indicate.

Over a few weeks, he was subjected to an escalating series of coercive methods, culminating in 7 1/2 days of sleep deprivation, while diapered and shackled, and 183 instances of waterboarding. After the month-long torment, he was never waterboarded again.

"What do you think changed KSM's mind?" one former senior intelligence official said this week after being asked about the effect of waterboarding. "Of course it began with that."

Mohammed, in statements to the International Committee of the Red Cross, said some of the information he provided was untrue.

"During the harshest period of my interrogation I gave a lot of false information in order to satisfy what I believed the interrogators wished to hear in order to make the ill-treatment stop. I later told interrogators that their methods were stupid and counterproductive. I'm sure that the false information I was forced to invent in order to make the ill-treatment stop wasted a lot of their time," he said.

Critics say waterboarding and other harsh methods are unacceptable regardless of their results, and those with detailed knowledge of the CIA's program say the existing assessments offer no scientific basis to draw conclusions about effectiveness.

"Democratic societies don't use torture under any circumstances. It is illegal and immoral," said Tom Parker, policy director for counterterrorism and human rights at Amnesty International. "This is a fool's argument in any event. There is no way to prove or disprove the counterfactual."

John L. Helgerson, the former CIA inspector general who investigated the agency's detention and interrogation program, said his work did not put him in "a position to reach definitive conclusions about the effectiveness of particular interrogation methods."

"Certain of the techniques seemed to have little effect, whereas waterboarding and sleep deprivation were the two most powerful techniques and elicited a lot of information," he said in an interview. "But we didn't have the time or resources to do a careful, systematic analysis of the use of particular techniques with particular individuals and independently confirm the quality of the information that came out."

After his capture, Mohammed first told his captors what he calculated they already knew.

"KSM almost immediately following his capture in March 2003 elaborated on his plan to crash commercial airlines into Heathrow airport," according to a document released by the CIA on Monday that summarizes the intelligence provided by Mohammed. The agency thinks he assumed that Ramzi Binalshibh, a Sept. 11 conspirator captured in September 2002, had already divulged the plan.

One former U.S. official with detailed knowledge of how the interrogations were carried out said Mohammed, like several other detainees, seemed to have decided that it was okay to stop resisting after he had endured a certain amount of pressure.

"Once the harsher techniques were used on [detainees], they could be viewed as having done their duty to Islam or their cause, and their religious principles would ask no more of them," said the former official, who requested anonymity because the events are still classified. "After that point, they became compliant. Obviously, there was also an interest in being able to later say, 'I was tortured into cooperating.' "

Mohammed provided the CIA with an autobiographical statement, describing a rebellious childhood, his decision to join the Muslim Brotherhood as a teenager, and his time in the United States as a student at North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, from where he graduated in 1986 with a degree in mechanical engineering.

"KSM's limited and negative experience in the United States -- which included a brief jail stay because of unpaid bills -- almost certainly helped propel him on his path to becoming a terrorist," according to the intelligence summary. "He stated that his contact with Americans, while minimal, confirmed his view that the United States was a debauched and racist country."

Mohammed provided $1,000 to Ramzi Yousef, a nephew, to help him carry out the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. In 1994, he worked in the Philippines with Yousef, now serving a life sentence at the federal "supermax" prison in Colorado, on a failed plot to down 12 U.S. commercial aircraft over the Pacific.

Mohammed told interrogators it was in the Philippines that he first considered using planes as missiles to strike the United States. He took the idea to Osama bin Laden, who "at first demurred but changed his mind in late 1999," according to the summary.

Mohammed described plans to strike targets in Saudi Arabia, East Asia and the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks, including using a network of Pakistanis "to target gas stations, railroad tracks, and the Brooklyn bridge in New York." Cross-referencing material from different detainees, and leveraging information from one to extract more detail from another, the CIA and FBI went on to round up operatives both in the United States and abroad.

"Detainees in mid-2003 helped us build a list of 70 individuals -- many of who we had never heard of before -- that al-Qaeda deemed suitable for Western operations," according to the CIA summary.

Mohammed told interrogators that after the Sept. 11 attacks, his "overriding priority" was to strike the United States, but that he "realized that a follow-on attack would be difficult because of security measures." Most of the plots, as a result, were "opportunistic and limited," according to the summary.

One former agency official recalled that Mohammed was once asked to write a summary of his knowledge about al-Qaeda's efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction. The terrorist group had explored buying either an intact nuclear weapon or key components such as enriched uranium, although there is no evidence of significant progress on that front.

"He wrote us an essay" on al-Qaeda's nuclear ambitions, the official said. "Not all of it was accurate, but it was quite extensive."

Mohammed was an unparalleled source in deciphering al-Qaeda's strategic doctrine, key operatives and likely targets, the summary said, including describing in "considerable detail the traits and profiles" that al-Qaeda sought in Western operatives and how the terrorist organization might conduct surveillance in the United States.

Mohammed was moved to the U.S. military facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in September 2006, and his loquaciousness is now largely confined to occasional appearances before a military commission. Back in his 86-square-foot cell at the secret Camp 7 at Guantanamo, he spends most of his waking hours in prayer, according to a source familiar with his confinement who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

But Mohammed has not abandoned his intellectual pursuits. He requested a Bible for study in his cell, according to the source, in order to better understand his enemy.

[Donger]

You mean you were serious? :eek: ROFL

OK, this is as good a place as any to post this article about the CIA's enhanced interrogation program and it's results:

So, basically, we need to let all Muslim students here not pay their bills or they'll become terrorists.

[blaise]

I wonder what would Brian Boitano do about this. I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two, that's what Brian Boitano'd do.

[TFG]

Perhaps we should just cut to the chase: What do you think about Israel, TFG?


Do you have any idea what happened to the USS Liberty??

What is our relationship with Israel, the world leader in UN violations?

We give them $3 bil per year, military aide, and support. They steal our military secrets and sell them to the Chinese. They murdered the USS Liberty. In response, we got 911 and the Iraq Treason.

Those who attempt to claim Israel, or the "Zionist Lobby," are "all Jews" are hiding behind the white sheet of the race card.

The most patriotic US political figure in the past decade was Russell Feingold, who not only opposed Iraq (and lost tons of cash and media coverage in the process) but made by far the most impressive patriotic defense of the US Constitution as W and Joe Lieberman tried to change it.


Albert Einstein was offered the Israeli Prime Minister position and turned it down. The Jewish religion is essentially all about the notion that the land of "ancient Canaan" should be occupied by Jews and nobody but Jews.


Jews burn Christian churchs and Bibles all the time in Israel, and you psych Bible Thumpers cheer that too...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/28/bible.burning/index.html


The elected ISraeli official who directed Israeli youth to burn hundreds of Christian Bibles is STILL IN OFFICE...

[TFG]

What an active imagination. Good story. I was riveted. I especially liked how you loosely tied it to real world events. Your choice of the Jews as the bad guys might be controversial, but I like a writer who takes risks. Have you considered having Cheney implant some kind of miniature electronic control device in Bush 43's head or something like that? That would be cool.


Don't need to. I have facts. You have treasonous lies you parrot from Zionists.

[Donger]

Do you have any idea what happened to the USS Liberty??

What is our relationship with Israel, the world leader in UN violations?

We give them $3 bil per year, military aide, and support. They steal our military secrets and sell them to the Chinese. They murdered the USS Liberty. In response, we got 911 and the Iraq Treason.

Those who attempt to claim Israel, or the "Zionist Lobby," are "all Jews" are hiding behind the white sheet of the race card.

The most patriotic US political figure in the past decade was Russell Feingold, who not only opposed Iraq (and lost tons of cash and media coverage in the process) but made by far the most impressive patriotic defense of the US Constitution as W and Joe Lieberman tried to change it.


Albert Einstein was offered the Israeli Prime Minister position and turned it down. The Jewish religion is essentially all about the notion that the land of "ancient Canaan" should be occupied by Jews and nobody but Jews.


Jews burn Christian churchs and Bibles all the time in Israel, and you psych Bible Thumpers cheer that too...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/28/bible.burning/index.html


The elected ISraeli official who directed Israeli youth to burn hundreds of Christian Bibles is STILL IN OFFICE...

So, what do you think about Israel, TFG?

[blaise]

Don't need to. I have facts. You have treasonous lies you parrot from Zionists.

You know another fact? The more times a person uses the word "Zionist" the nuttier they are.
Scientific.

[HonestChieffan]

Will need a lot of extras, Jooze in uniform. Maybe make it an all female Jooowish Army group. Sets up a nice sub theme of women empowered against the evil woman hating Muslim leader.

Chan could be the Colonel in charge....

[TFG]

"OK, this is as good a place as any to post this article about the CIA's enhanced interrogation program and it's results:"


There were plenty of leftist Zionists supporting W and Iraq, or didn't you notice. Joe Lieberman and his career ACU rating of 16 (which includes votes for the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror as "conservative") almost became the GOP VP despite a career of supporting gays, abortions, and big socialist government. Judy Miller is a left wing Zionist from the NYT, and she went to prison to protect Cheney and Scooter Libby's lies about Plame and the Niger yellowcake BS.

The Washington Post is Zionist. DUH...


Want a real American's take. How about FBI Directer Mueller's??


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/robert-mueller-bush-fbi-d_n_190628.html

"George W. Bush's own FBI director said in an interview last year that he wasn't aware of a single planned terror attack on America that had been foiled by information obtained through torture."



Indeed, the FBI was literally the only part of the Federal Government W did not sell out to the Zionist lobby.

Treasury Secretary Paulson is a Dem and a Zionist. Fed Chair Bernanke, "Choose 'em Ben" and give that US taxpayer money to Zionists on Wall Street, is a Dem, a Zionist, and DUAL CITIZEN. His synagogue includes many Bear Stearns bigs. US AG Mike Mukasey, lifetime Dem, left wing, and Zionist. Here's the best one. CIA Director George Tenet. After failing to kill OBL as ordered by Clinton, failing to stop 911, and lying to the Senate about WMDs right before the Iraq War vote, Tenet was given the "highest award" by the ADL when it was clear no WMDs were in Iraq.

This award was treason:

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Mise_00/4643_00.htm


""All of us, as citizens of this great country, were incredibly fortunate to have our national security and intelligence operations in such skilled, knowledgeable and capable hands," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "


Unreal. The guy's record as CIA Director was 100% failure. Who in the world liked what he did or failed to do???

"a videotaped greeting from Israel, Avi Dichter, Director of the Shin Bet, Israel's internal security service, offered his personal congratulations and wished Mr. Tenet well. "You are certainly worthy of this honor," "



Translation: you ran the CIA for Israel, you didn't kill OBL, you dumped the US military in Iraq for 100% lies, and we, the Zionists burning Christian Bibles, we LOVE YOU GEORGE TENET...

[TFG]

You know another fact? The more times a person uses the word "Zionist" the nuttier they are.
Scientific.



The KKK called those who identified the KKK as "white supremacist" "anti white."

Hiding treason behind the "anti-semite" card ain't cutting it.

[HonestChieffan]

Costs too much to have KKK in the movie. So before you clamor for that sort of rable, be it known we will not bring that into the film.

Gotta have a role for Gene Hackman. Nifty editing could splice in some of the scenes from Bonanza. Hoss Bin-Cartright.

[TFG]

Costs too much to have KKK in the movie. So before you clamor for that sort of rable, be it known we will not bring that into the film.

Gotta have a role for Gene Hackman. Nifty editing could splice in some of the scenes from Bonanza. Hoss Bin-Cartright.


You are really happy that 4000 are dead, 30000 are maimed, 1 trillion is out the door, and all over intentional lies and precisely nothing in our national interest in Iraq, while our terror is still at large because your treasonous white n-word hero, the worst Prez in US history, made him "not a priority." That makes you what???

[Inspector]

Is this where we cut away to an old Conway Twitty video?

I love those.

[blaise]

You are really happy that 4000 are dead, 30000 are maimed, 1 trillion is out the door, and all over intentional lies and precisely nothing in our national interest in Iraq, while our terror is still at large because your treasonous white n-word hero, the worst Prez in US history, made him "not a priority." That makes you what???

Saner than you?

[HonestChieffan]

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Lots of free footage can reduce cost.

LOve how this drone sends these guys to paradise.

[KC Dan]

Brought to you by Norman Lear, the lost episode of "All in the Family".

wackjob...

[HonestChieffan]

Mariachis. Need some of that good old traditional mexican music.

[ChiTown]

It is truly telling here that nobody has attempted to refute anything I just posted. The "Republican Party" was hijacked in 1998 when Newt Gingrich was couped by Delay, Hastert, and other big spending Bible Thumpers. That is when the GOP started spending and spending like LBJ.

Everyone who still supports Iraq is too dumb to have a clue, too lazy to get a clue, and too hateful to care.

See definition of N WORD...

So, there are a few of you that still exist. Huh........

[HonestChieffan]

So, there are a few of you that still exist. Huh........

They were driven from the hills by the LA Fire.

[Donger]

TFG, please give us your thoughts on the Holocaust.

[HonestChieffan]

The cost of everything is high these days. I havent priced on but Id bet a Holo is still pretty pricey.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I want to purchase the screen rights

Hmmm

Follow the party line. Attack Chuck Norris, deflect from the message. Offer no facts or information that can be later used to undermine you

[WilliamTheIrish]

And now, back to the story.

Gotta work on the music for this. Casting.
Maybe do the entire thing in arabic with English subtitles?

Need a hero like some poor farm kid from Nebraska....a refugee from the foreclosed on farm....teaches himself Arabic with a hand me down Rosetta Stone program....

Hmmm..

...so you take the approach of deflect and run.

[WilliamTheIrish]

I'd advise all to have tinfoil handy. Just line the inside of a ball cap. Or if your supply is limited, there are reports that a strip around inside the sweat band offers protection as well.



Sad that you feel so committed to such a pack of untruths. Deflect and bob and weave as you try, if you spent as much time understanding something as you do railing away with all that emotion, you could possibly understand.

This seems to be your staple. Perhaps we won't have to hear this particular complaint from you about others any longer.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Will need a lot of extras, Jooze in uniform. Maybe make it an all female Jooowish Army group. Sets up a nice sub theme of women empowered against the evil woman hating Muslim leader.

Chan could be the Colonel in charge....


When have you engaged in any serious debate? When you have you usually end up with some name calling and then go off and sulk. Pardon me but your rage over the term is as much a ploy to deflect from the issue as Obamas rush to pass bills to save the world was a ploy to get all the pork in before anyone noticed.

This one is my personal favorite.

[TFG]

So, there are a few of you that still exist. Huh........



Patriotic Americans with intelligence, understanding of finance and the effects of big government spending, and intolerance for lying and getting US troops killed for nothing in our national interest. Yes, we are called


FORMER REPUBLICANS

[patteeu]

Don't need to. I have facts. You have treasonous lies you parrot from Zionists.

If you don't upgrade your tin foil, someone's going to make you SJG:

http://fotosa.ru/stock_photo/Creatas_JI/p_450188.jpg

[ChiTown]

Patriotic Americans with intelligence, understanding of finance and the effects of big government spending, and intolerance for lying and getting US troops killed for nothing in our national interest. Yes, we are called


FORMER REPUBLICANS

If "Former Republicans" is a code name for Lunatic Fringe, I agree.

[Inspector]

Patriotic Americans with intelligence, understanding of finance and the effects of big government spending, and intolerance for lying and getting US troops killed for nothing in our national interest. Yes, we are called


FORMER REPUBLICANS

Penchief said you were supposed to use the word "corporate" at least once in your post.

[Iowanian]

you're just nucking futs, tfg

[TFG]

TFG, please give us your thoughts on the Holocaust.


It is quite telling how reflexive the use of the "Anti-semite" card is in response to outing Israel and Zionists for what they are = supremacist non-allies of the US who take advantage of the


DUMBEST


life forms in the universe, the treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist supporters of George W Bush, the worst President in US history, the dumbest President in US history, and the only President in US history to actively commit treason while in office, to get the US to use the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. Such life forms are conditioned to parrot the anti-semite card in response to anyone who points out the truth of Zionist motives and actions regarding the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror.


As for the Holocaust, my question to you is why did Hitler hate Jews? He hated Jews because dishonest manipulative Jews ruined his father. So he slaughtered Jews regardless of whether they had anything to do with that. There were real lessons from the Holocaust, lessons about lying to start wars, about getting a population riled up about a larger demographic that largely had nothing to do with the "act" that triggered the anger. Indeed, the parallels between W are staggering. Both lied to start wars. Both tried to incite bigotry to justify treason. Both supported torture, indefinite detainment with no due process, racial profiling, socialism, using the media to sell treason and lies. Neither was anything but a punk with an ego either.


Here is my question to you. What did you learn from the Holocaust?

A) that it is OK to start wars over lies if Zionists approve
B) that anyone pointing out truth of Zionist transgressions against the US is an "anti-semite"
C) that making those responsible for 911 "not a priority" was OK because Zionists want him alive fighting THEIR enemy Iran
D) that the proper first response to 911 was to UNIONIZE BAGGAGE HANDLERS

[patteeu]

TFG is the guy that Killer Clown thinks is over the top.

[TFG]

Penchief said you were supposed to use the word "corporate" at least once in your post.



I am not a socialist, one of the reasons why I hate GW Bush, who proved beyond any doubt that he is a socialist, a BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALIST.

Why did you support GW Bush's socialism but not Obama's?

You supported:

A) socializing senior drugs by lying to Congress about the cost
B) unionizing baggage handlers as the first response to 911
C) spending more than any Prez since LBJ
D) bailing out "chosen" Wall Street failures who supported the treasonous War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror


... yet now you are "against" Obama's "big government."


I was against W's and Obama's. I am pure. You are a tainted piece of treasonous dog@@@@.

[Inspector]

Again, your typing prowess is very impressive.

Do you use a keyboard at work?

How many WPM can you type?

[Donger]

It is quite telling how reflexive the use of the "Anti-semite" card is in response to outing Israel and Zionists for what they are = supremacist non-allies of the US who take advantage of the


DUMBEST


life forms in the universe, the treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist supporters of George W Bush, the worst President in US history, the dumbest President in US history, and the only President in US history to actively commit treason while in office, to get the US to use the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. Such life forms are conditioned to parrot the anti-semite card in response to anyone who points out the truth of Zionist motives and actions regarding the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror.


As for the Holocaust, my question to you is why did Hitler hate Jews? He hated Jews because dishonest manipulative Jews ruined his father. So he slaughtered Jews regardless of whether they had anything to do with that. There were real lessons from the Holocaust, lessons about lying to start wars, about getting a population riled up about a larger demographic that largely had nothing to do with the "act" that triggered the anger. Indeed, the parallels between W are staggering. Both lied to start wars. Both tried to incite bigotry to justify treason. Both supported torture, indefinite detainment with no due process, racial profiling, socialism, using the media to sell treason and lies. Neither was anything but a punk with an ego either.


Here is my question to you. What did you learn from the Holocaust?

A) that it is OK to start wars over lies if Zionists approve
B) that anyone pointing out truth of Zionist transgressions against the US is an "anti-semite"
C) that making those responsible for 911 "not a priority" was OK because Zionists want him alive fighting THEIR enemy Iran
D) that the proper first response to 911 was to UNIONIZE BAGGAGE HANDLERS

Are you glad that the Holocaust happened?

[TFG]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

[Donger]

Penchief said you were supposed to use the word "corporate" at least once in your post.

LMAO

[Donger]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

Yes, that is true. I did just have a discussion with my dog about his thoughts on quantum theory.

[Iowanian]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

Get out of here with your Taliban bullshit.

[ChiTown]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

Present company included.

[Inspector]

I am not a socialist, one of the reasons why I hate GW Bush, who proved beyond any doubt that he is a socialist, a BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALIST.

Why did you support GW Bush's socialism but not Obama's?

You supported:

A) socializing senior drugs by lying to Congress about the cost
B) unionizing baggage handlers as the first response to 911
C) spending more than any Prez since LBJ
D) bailing out "chosen" Wall Street failures who supported the treasonous War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror


... yet now you are "against" Obama's "big government."


I was against W's and Obama's. I am pure. You are a tainted piece of treasonous dog@@@@.

Wow, I had no idea I was for or supported any of that stuff. I'm not even much on politics really. I just jump over here from the football side back and forth.

TFG, are you OK man? I'm not trying to engage you into a fight or anything, but are you on any kind of meds? If so, make sure you haven't missed a dose.

I don't want to see anyone have a stroke over some folks having some fun on the innernet.

[Iowanian]

I'd like to see Skinbra debate this shitbrick.

[TFG]

Are you glad that the Holocaust happened?


No. I think Adolph should have whacked just the specific ones who f-ed his daddy. I deplore anyone who says "because Charles Manson was a killer and white, we should off all whites." I deplore anyone who says "because OBL is Islamic, we should off all Islamic people."

I believe individuals are accountable, specifically W, Cheney, Tenet, Rumsfeld, and every other traitor who intentionally lied to sell out our troops to help W get money and favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby in 2004. Notice, too, that each one of them was a genuine CHICKENHAWK.

[patteeu]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

Defend him from what?

[Donger]

No. I think Adolph should have whacked just the specific ones who f-ed his daddy.

Who?

[TFG]

Wow, I had no idea I was for or supported any of that stuff. I'm not even much on politics really. I just jump over here from the football side back and forth.

TFG, are you OK man? I'm not trying to engage you into a fight or anything, but are you on any kind of meds? If so, make sure you haven't missed a dose.

I don't want to see anyone have a stroke over some folks having some fun on the innernet.


Indeed, are you saying you opposed W?


I am confused about how W supporters could end up so incredibly clueless about W's actual record.

[Donger]

Indeed, are you saying you opposed W?


I am confused about how W supporters could end up so incredibly clueless about W's actual record.

I voted for Bush twice. The first time in 2000, I wanted him to be POTUS. The second time in 2004? Basically because I didn't want Kerry to win.

Did you vote for him either time?

[patteeu]

No. I think Adolph should have whacked just the specific ones who f-ed his daddy. I deplore anyone who says "because Charles Manson was a killer and white, we should off all whites." I deplore anyone who says "because OBL is Islamic, we should off all Islamic people."

I believe individuals are accountable, specifically W, Cheney, Tenet, Rumsfeld, and every other traitor who intentionally lied to sell out our troops to help W get money and favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby in 2004. Notice, too, that each one of them was a genuine CHICKENHAWK.

Donald Rumsfeld was a naval aviator. Is that what you mean by CHICKENHAWK?

[Inspector]

TFG...I think you're getting mad at everyone.

Dude, it's not worth it. Most of us are just here to pass some time and have fun.

Bart Simpson/Don't have a cow man./Bart Simpson

[TFG]

Who?


I don't know their names. I know Adolph believed his dad was screwed by a few Zionists and hated ALL Jews as a result. I don't believe any Jews in Poland did anything to Adolph or his pop.

And I don't think Russell Feingold is a traitor. I think he is the greatest American political hero in the past decade. And, believe it or not, he is JEWISH. Feingold is, more precisely, a JEWISH AMERICAN, as opposed to Joe Lieberman and Bill Kristol, who are AMERICAN ISRAELIS who view the US as a tool to accomplish the goals of Zionism - wiping out all of Israel's enemies.


Do you think Jimmy Carter is an "anti-semite" because he compared Israel's occupied territories to APARTHEID?

[TFG]

TFG...I think you're getting mad at everyone.

Dude, it's not worth it. Most of us are just here to pass some time and have fun.

Bart Simpson/Don't have a cow man./Bart Simpson



Yes, indeed, if 4000 US troops get killed and 30000 maimed because a couple of treasonous chickenhawks sold them out to a foreign lobby and made our terror "not a priority," yes, indeed, that makes me "mad" as heck.

[Donger]

I don't know their names. I know Adolph believed his dad was screwed by a few Zionists and hated ALL Jews as a result. I don't believe any Jews in Poland did anything to Adolph or his pop.

And I don't think Russell Feingold is a traitor. I think he is the greatest American political hero in the past decade. And, believe it or not, he is JEWISH. Feingold is, more precisely, a JEWISH AMERICAN, as opposed to Joe Lieberman and Bill Kristol, who are AMERICAN ISRAELIS who view the US as a tool to accomplish the goals of Zionism - wiping out all of Israel's enemies.


Do you think Jimmy Carter is an "anti-semite" because he compared Israel's occupied territories to APARTHEID?

His name was Adolf.

And, what did these nasty Jews do to Adolf's sweet Daddy that think he was justified in killing them?

[Inspector]

Indeed, are you saying you opposed W?


I am confused about how W supporters could end up so incredibly clueless about W's actual record.

I have never voted for anyone who won. I have voted in every election going back to the 70's but never for anyone who won.

So, are you doing better now? It's ok. It will be alright.

[TFG]

Donald Rumsfeld was a naval aviator. Is that what you mean by CHICKENHAWK?


W was a NatGuard aviator, or, more precisely, chosen to get out of being on the ground in Nam... because of his family.

[Mr. Kotter]

TFG, you are either a douche who has to be a dup...or a legit psycho? Which is it?

Possibly both, I suppose. Heh. :hmmm:

[Inspector]

Yes, indeed, if 4000 US troops get killed and 30000 maimed because a couple of treasonous chickenhawks sold them out to a foreign lobby and made our terror "not a priority," yes, indeed, that makes me "mad" as heck.

Oh...Um...OK...

(slowly backs away......)

[Mr. Kotter]

TFG, you are either a douche who has to be a dup...or a legit psycho? Which is it?

Possibly both, I suppose. Heh. :hmmm:

jettio??? :spock:

Hel'n??? :eek:

[Inspector]

Guys, guys...

My boss just told me that the mental hospital down on 31street just had an evacuation for a fire alarm and a few got loose.

Don't know if it's related to this thread (hint, hint) but just wanted you all to be aware...


OK, TFG, is it getting any better? You doing OK man? There is some soothing music via the link in my sig. It will make you feel better.

Maybe we can get badgirl to get him some orange juice.

TFG - Would that help? A little orange juice?

[TFG]

I voted for Bush twice. The first time in 2000, I wanted him to be POTUS. The second time in 2004? Basically because I didn't want Kerry to win.

Did you vote for him either time?



Voted McCain in 2000 primary, W in 2000 general, left the GOP in 2004 after Iraq and the socialization of senior drugs. Voted Bednarick in 2004 and Barr in 2008 - Libertarian.

I now regard the 2000 election as Traitor A vs. Traitor B. I did not know at the time that W was a traitor. I knew Gore was using his "warming" fraud to sell out the sovereignty of the US to some "world court" that would force us to "cut carbon emissions" even though the planet Earth has precisely no evidence of "warming" at all except on the surface of growing urban areas due to what NASA calls Urban Heat Sink Effect. There is precisely no warming (not just no statistically significant warming, but NO WARMING) in the atmosphere (where the CO2 is), the oceans, or the surface of Antarctica (no cities to produce a UHSE). I knew Global Warming was a fraud even as 1998 was the "warmest on record" just measuring "temperatures" on the surface of growing urban areas. Meanwhile, 90% of the world's ice in Antarctica has been growing since we started measuring it by satellite in 1979.

Get facts. Get truth. Get the RAW DATA, not the spin...

[TFG]

His name was Adolf.

And, what did these nasty Jews do to Adolf's sweet Daddy that think he was justified in killing them?


As soon as you answer my questions, I will resume answering yours.

[Donger]

Voted McCain in 2000 primary, W in 2000 general, left the GOP in 2004 after Iraq and the socialization of senior drugs. Voted Bednarick in 2004 and Barr in 2008 - Libertarian.

There's a shocker.

[Donger]

As soon as you answer my questions, I will resume answering yours.

Honestly, reading your posts makes my head hurt, so I basically skim them.

But, I'll answer this one:

"Do you think Jimmy Carter is an "anti-semite" because he compared Israel's occupied territories to APARTHEID?"

No, I don't think Jimmy Carter is anti-Semitic. I do think he views the Palestinians more favorably than the Israelis.

[patteeu]

W was a NatGuard aviator, or, more precisely, chosen to get out of being on the ground in Nam... because of his family.

Right, so you were wrong on 2 counts.

[HonestChieffan]

I bet its the voices. The trees talk you know. The oldest ones are keepers of secrets of the little people.

[TFG]

Get out of here with your Taliban bullshit.


It is precisely YOUR TREASONOUS IDIOCY that helped W get away with making The Taliban/AQ

NOT A PRIORITY



If you wanted The Taliban WIPED OUT, then you should HATE W. W sent only 7k troops to Afghan initially. W flipped off The Northern Alliance, which was AT WAR with The Taliban on 911. The Taliban is alive and thriving because W was not interested in doing the US national interest. Rather, W was interested in getting treasonous white n-words like you to blur Al Qaeda into everyone Islamic.


Indeed, if treasonous idiocy was equated to treason legally, you'd be swinging from a tree right now...

[Iowanian]

They should have dropped a moab on you at Torra Borra.

The CIA should be watching you.

[TFG]

Right, so you were wrong on 2 counts.


Nobody who ever served on the ground in a real war. There, feel better...

Would you have tried to join the NatGuard during Nam...

[Donger]

I'm guessing this TFG is white and at least 45 years old.

[TFG]

Honestly, reading your posts makes my head hurt, so I basically skim them.

But, I'll answer this one:

"Do you think Jimmy Carter is an "anti-semite" because he compared Israel's occupied territories to APARTHEID?"

No, I don't think Jimmy Carter is anti-Semitic. I do think he views the Palestinians more favorably than the Israelis.



Realizing you parroted lies from a foreign lobby and supported treason should make your head hurt...

[Iowanian]

Holy Santa Clause shit!

[Donger]

Realizing you parroted lies from a foreign lobby and supported treason should make your head hurt...

I answered your question, now please answer mine:

What did these nasty Jews do to Adolf's sweet Daddy that you think he was justified in killing them?

[HonestChieffan]

They should have dropped a moab on you at Torra Borra.

The CIA should be watching you.

You treasonous white n-word.

Tag.


You're it and I have immunity from tagback.

[TFG]

They should have dropped a moab on you at Torra Borra.

The CIA should be watching you.



The truth, of course, is that had W made OBL "THE PRIORITY" and sent 100k to Afghan initially, we likely get OBL at Tora Bora.

But there you were, SURE that smoking and drinking Saddam and Islamic lifestyle Obama were "pals" because your Zionist masters at Rupert Murdoch's network kept telling your treasonous birdbrain that...

[TFG]

I answered your question, now please answer mine:

What did these nasty Jews do to Adolf's sweet Daddy that you think he was justified in killing them?


Possibly. The ones who were specifically guilty of ruining his father. Sure. Honor killing. But that's it. Hitler's "mistake" was equating those who screwed his father to everyone Jewish. Kinda like equating Osama to everyone Islamic...

[Donger]

The truth, of course, is that had W made OBL "THE PRIORITY" and sent 100k to Afghan initially, we likely get OBL at Tora Bora.

How did you reach that conclusion?

[Donger]

Possibly. The ones who were specifically guilty of ruining his father. Sure. Honor killing. But that's it. Hitler's "mistake" was equating those who screwed his father to everyone Jewish. Kinda like equating Osama to everyone Islamic...

No, I'm asking you specifically how these nasty Jews ruined Hitler's father, Alois. Please be specific.

[TFG]

No, I'm asking you specifically how these nasty Jews ruined Hitler's father, Alois. Please be specific.


I wasn't there. I don't know. I don't have a problem with people avenging specific acts against their family. I do have a problem with taking one act by one or a few and blaming a whole race for it.

[TFG]

How did you reach that conclusion?


Well, we sent only 7k there initially. We had 5k from other countries, making the total force 12k in Afghan when OBL was spotted at Tora Bora. Clearly, had we more troops and assets, we would have had a much better chance at encircling him and trapping him. But, of course, as you know and love so much, your hero W made OBL "not a priority," and alive and causing more trouble he is as a result of W's treason that you love so much...

[patteeu]

Nobody who ever served on the ground in a real war. There, feel better...

Would you have tried to join the NatGuard during Nam...

This isn't about feeling, it's about exposing you (as if it's even necessary) as the fact-deficient fraud that you are.

Your vote for Mike Badnarik went to a guy who didn't serve on the ground in a real war. How could such a man ever defend our country if it became necessary knowing that there'd be dopes out here like yourself who would call him names like Chickenhawk?

If I were of age during Nam, I'd have dodged the draft and fled to Canada. Then, after Carter offered Amnesty, I'd come back, run for office, start a war and send morons like you to the front lines. That's what I'd have done during Nam.

[Donger]

I wasn't there. I don't know. I don't have a problem with people avenging specific acts against their family. I do have a problem with taking one act by one or a few and blaming a whole race for it.

Let me get this straight: you don't know what these Jews did to Adolf Hitler's father but you are fine with Adolf killing them because of what they did?

Is that right?

[mlyonsd]

If OBL were dead AQ would cease to exist.

Got it.

[Donger]

Well, we sent only 7k there initially. We had 5k from other countries, making the total force 12k in Afghan when OBL was spotted at Tora Bora. Clearly, had we more troops and assets, we would have had a much better chance at encircling him and trapping him. But, of course, as you know and love so much, your hero W made OBL "not a priority," and alive and causing more trouble he is as a result of W's treason that you love so much...

What is your military background?

[TFG]

If OBL were dead AQ would cease to exist.

Got it.


If we shot you in the head, your corpse would still stink of treason.

[HonestChieffan]

If we shot you in the head, your corpse would still stink of treason.

Who are "we"?

[TFG]

Let me get this straight: you don't know what these Jews did to Adolf Hitler's father but you are fine with Adolf killing them because of what they did?

Is that right?



The ones who specifically screwed his dad - yeah. I might even convict him of murder as a juror, but I would understand it. Converting that to genocide is a tad much...

[TFG]

"Your vote for Mike Badnarik went to a guy who didn't serve on the ground in a real war. How could such a man ever defend our country if it became necessary knowing that there'd be dopes out here like yourself who would call him names like Chickenhawk?"


Clearly, you failed to grasp the "hawk" part of CHICKENHAWK. Badnarik was against Iraq.

[patteeu]

I wasn't there. I don't know. I don't have a problem with people avenging specific acts against their family. I do have a problem with taking one act by one or a few and blaming a whole race for it.

Time after time, President Bush made it clear in his speeches that we weren't at war with all of Islam. Maybe you should have spent less time listening to shortwave radio and reading fringe websites and more time actually paying attention to what was really going on. :shrug:

[mlyonsd]

If we shot you in the head, your corpse would still stink of treason.

You might want to leave the critical thinking to the guy that makes the fries.

[JohnnyV13]

Well, we've had several hours for one single treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist to defend W. None have either the knowledge or intelligence to do so.

So says the skinhead. White n-word? Zionists? Can you spell neo nazi????

[TFG]

Time after time, President Bush made it clear in his speeches that we weren't at war with all of Islam. Maybe you should have spent less time listening to shortwave radio and reading fringe websites and more time actually paying attention to what was really going on. :shrug:



OH, Bull. Bush started to blur Al Qaeda into "the terrorists." Bush' supporters went way further than that.

So, tell us, why was Iran put on the "Axis of Evil" when Iran (under Rafsanjani not Ahmadinejad) was, at the time, arming and funding those at war with The Taliban??

[HonestChieffan]

If we shot you in the head, your corpse would still stink of treason.

Are there others or just you?

[ChiTown]

The ones who specifically screwed his dad - yeah. I might even convict him of murder as a juror, but I would understand it. Converting that to genocide is a tad much...

Lunatic.

[JohnnyV13]

What is your military background?

He went to the skinhead urban insurgency seminar and weapons training course.

[Donger]

The ones who specifically screwed his dad - yeah. I might even convict him of murder as a juror, but I would understand it. Converting that to genocide is a tad much...

How

did

they

screw

his

Dad?

[Inspector]

TFG - I've heard it can be bad for your health to keep things bottled up.

Just let it out. Breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth and relax. It will help you feel better.

Maybe try pot? I've heard it can also help with stress.

I'm just worried about you there little fella.

[patteeu]

"Your vote for Mike Badnarik went to a guy who didn't serve on the ground in a real war. How could such a man ever defend our country if it became necessary knowing that there'd be dopes out here like yourself who would call him names like Chickenhawk?"


Clearly, you failed to grasp the "hawk" part of CHICKENHAWK. Badnarik was against Iraq.

No, I didn't fail to grasp that. You failed to grasp the point I made. Without ground experience in a war, Bardnarik would run the risk of being called a chickenhawk by people like you if he fought ANY war, no matter how much his belief that the war was a justified and necessary measure to defend the country. The truth is that you're just a hypocrite. A guy without adequate military service is a chickenhawk if, and only if, YOU don't like the war he starts. It's not about serving or not serving, it's about YOUR opinion of the war.

[blaise]

It is precisely YOUR TREASONOUS IDIOCY that helped W get away with making The Taliban/AQ

NOT A PRIORITY



If you wanted The Taliban WIPED OUT, then you should HATE W. W sent only 7k troops to Afghan initially. W flipped off The Northern Alliance, which was AT WAR with The Taliban on 911. The Taliban is alive and thriving because W was not interested in doing the US national interest. Rather, W was interested in getting treasonous white n-words like you to blur Al Qaeda into everyone Islamic.


Indeed, if treasonous idiocy was equated to treason legally, you'd be swinging from a tree right now...

Your brains are made from cow shit.

[TFG]

No, I didn't fail to grasp that. You failed to grasp the point I made. Without ground experience in a war, Bardnarik would run the risk of being called a chickenhawk by people like you if he fought ANY war, no matter how much his belief that the war was a justified and necessary measure to defend the country. The truth is that you're just a hypocrite. A guy without adequate military service is a chickenhawk if, and only if, YOU don't like the war he starts. It's not about serving or not serving, it's about YOUR opinion of the war.


Personally, I don't like anyone who "starts wars." Osama started one. Then W started his own in Iraq. I don't like either. You like one who made the other "not a priority." Birdbrains of a feather...

[TFG]

How

did

they

screw

his

Dad?




WHY

CAN'T

YOU

ACCEPT

MY

LAST

17

RESPONSES

THAT

I

DON'T

KNOW

?

[TFG]

TFG - I've heard it can be bad for your health to keep things bottled up.

Just let it out. Breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth and relax. It will help you feel better.

Maybe try pot? I've heard it can also help with stress.

I'm just worried about you there little fella.



In America, we are supposed to have freedom of speech. Pot is good. Truth is better...

[Donger]

WHY

CAN'T

YOU

ACCEPT

MY

LAST

17

RESPONSES

THAT

I

DON'T

KNOW

?

You do realize that this admission makes you look, well, like a f*cking idiot, yes?

[Inspector]

Didn't we have another insane poster here once? I can't remember his name, but I remember the ranting and eventually everyone figured out he wasn't really dealing with a full deck.

Dang, I wish I could remember who that was......

[blaise]

I bet TFG has some sort of Nazi paraphanelia somewhere in his trailer.

[ChiTown]

You do realize that this admission makes you look, well, like a f*cking idiot, yes?

Honestly, that admission came with the original post..............

[Inspector]

In America, we are supposed to have freedom of speech. Pot is good. Truth is better...

Yeah, that's what I've heard.

I guess if we didn't these message boards probably wouldn't exists. Or maybe they would but they'd be monitored by big brother.

Are you calming down a bit?

Go ahead and answer Donger. It will make you feel better.

And be careful with the pot. That'll get you arrested in some states.

[TFG]

I bet TFG has some sort of Nazi paraphanelia somewhere in his trailer.



Indeed, as a W supporter, it would be shocking if you didn't have any.

W and Hitler

1) both started wars over intentional lies
2) both pushed socialism and expansion of state power
3) both limited the freedoms enjoyed by their populations
4) both were stupid and dishonest
5) both exploited tragedy for political purposes

[patteeu]

So, tell us, why was Iran put on the "Axis of Evil" when Iran (under Rafsanjani not Ahmadinejad) was, at the time, arming and funding those at war with The Taliban??

Because they had a long history of working with islamist terror groups toward ends that were at odds with American interests (e.g. killing hundreds of US Marines in Lebanon) and because they were pursuing illicit WMD (e.g. involvement in the AQ Khan proliferation ring). Pretty simple really.

[TFG]

Yeah, that's what I've heard.

I guess if we didn't these message boards probably wouldn't exists. Or maybe they would but they'd be monitored by big brother.

Are you calming down a bit?

Go ahead and answer Donger. It will make you feel better.

And be careful with the pot. That'll get you arrested in some states.



I have tried to answer everything while Donger has answered one of a dozen questions put to him. Curious, why you aren't bugging Donger to answer more often...

[Inspector]

I have tried to answer everything while Donger has answered one of a dozen questions put to him. Curious, why you aren't bugging Donger to answer more often...

OK.

Donger! Now answer his questions!!

Or no supper tonight. I mean it young man!!:)

[blaise]

Indeed, as a W supporter, it would be shocking if you didn't have any.

W and Hitler

1) both started wars over intentional lies
2) both pushed socialism and expansion of state power
3) both limited the freedoms enjoyed by their populations
4) both were stupid and dishonest
5) both exploited tragedy for political purposes

So, is that a yes?

[patteeu]

Personally, I don't like anyone who "starts wars." Osama started one. Then W started his own in Iraq. I don't like either. You like one who made the other "not a priority." Birdbrains of a feather...

I'm not talking about starting a war. I'm talking about fighting a war in order to defend your country.

[bluehawkdoc]

TFG, you are an inflammatory little bitch, aren't you? PMDD, maybe? Did one of those dirty Zionists hide your Midol? Or, was it (shudder) a bible thumper?

[Donger]

OK.

Donger! Now answer his questions!!

Or no supper tonight. I mean it young man!!:)

I'd be happy to, but I have no intention of going through all his posts to find them. If he'd list them one by one, I'd be happy to provide my answers.

Your move, Adolph.

[Inspector]

I bet TFG has some sort of Nazi paraphanelia somewhere in his trailer.

I just found out that you can only hand out so much rep in one day.

I never knew that before.

[Inspector]

I'd be happy to, but I have no intention of going through all his posts to find them. If he'd list them one by one, I'd be happy to provide my answers.

Your move, Adolph.

I'm not much help. I couldn't find them either. Plus, I'm not very good at reading reeeeeeal long posts. I tend to just skim those.

[TFG]

Because they had a long history of working with islamist terror groups toward ends that were at odds with American interests (e.g. killing hundreds of US Marines in Lebanon) and because they were pursuing illicit WMD (e.g. involvement in the AQ Khan proliferation ring). Pretty simple really.


This is complete Zionist BS. Hezbollah attacked the US Marines in Lebanon because Hezbollah is/was at war with Israel and the US Marines were there to defend Israel... in the 1980s, before President REAGAN pulled them out... to the howls and hate of Zionists everywhere. Our Marines should never have been deployed to serve ISRAEL, and Reagan correctly recognized that. That decision to remove the US military from Lebanon was a great example of patriotism over selling out our troops for political gain. What was THE US NATIONAL INTEREST in keeping Marines in Lebanon? Nothing. Reagan had our troops hit Hezbollah back hard and then pulled them out.


You say Iran is "working with islamist terror groups." I say you are a parrot of treasonous Zionist lies. Iran and Israel are ENEMIES. WE, the US, do not care about that. We support peace and let the UN deal with such situations.

Truth be told, our involvement with the Shah was another really BAD decision. The Shah was a bad guy.

As for the WMDs, no, that was Ahmadinejad, not Rafsanjani. Ahmad only wins in 2005 because of "Axis of Evil" and video from Iraq showing Sunnis blowing up Shia mosques.

When you STICK YOUR NOSE IN A FIGHT THAT YOU AREN'T INVOVLED WITH, DON'T BE SHOCKED IF YOU GET A BLOODY NOSE. That is the lesson of Lebanon.


The truth is that Iran, on 911, was AT WAR WITH THE TALIBAN and had done precisely nothing hostile to the US since the 1980s. Iran was a "Islamic democracy" and we should have accepted their offer to help us wipe out The Taliban.


Good piece on the whole subject here...


http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11539



"The Iranians, who had been working for years with the main anti-Taliban coalition, the Northern Alliance, also advised the Americans about how to negotiate the major ethnic and political fault lines in the country."

""The Iranians said we don't like al-Qaeda any better than you, and we have assets in Afghanistan that could be useful," Leverett recalls."





It was 100% pure TREASON to flip off Iran right then. Our national interest was to wipe out The Taliban and AQ. We had deployed our forces next to The Northern Alliance. The "Axis of Evil" was about the Bush 2004 campaign getting cash and "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror" media coverage from Zionists, nothing more. It was 100% pure treason. It helped our enemies. It weakened us. It turned allies into non-participants and enemies. And then it got Ahmadinejad elected...

[blaise]

Oh my God, I think there's a Zionist in your house! HE'S CALLING FROM INSIDE YOUR HOUSE TFG! GET OUT, GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!

[TFG]

I'm not talking about starting a war. I'm talking about fighting a war in order to defend your country.


Then someone else "started" it... you treasonous DumbPHUCK.

[TFG]

Oh my God, I think there's a Zionist in your house! HE'S CALLING FROM INSIDE YOUR HOUSE TFG! GET OUT, GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN!


There is definitely a Zionist in your house... every time you watch Fox News, Rupert Murdoch is laughing at just how successful his misinfo has been with treasonous white n-words like you.

[TFG]

So, is that a yes?


No, I hate W and ALL socialists, including National Socialists. You love W.

[blaise]

There is definitely a Zionist in your house... every time you watch Fox News, Rupert Murdoch is laughing at just how successful his misinfo has been with treasonous white n-words like you.

You don't hold a job, do you?

[Inspector]

OK, I'll bite.

What is a "white N-word"? I've seen it a few times in this thread but not sure what it means.

[Iowanian]

TFG acts like he was raped by a menstruating Jewish woman with a pork skin strap-on.

[blaise]

No, I hate W and ALL socialists, including National Socialists. You love W.

I do love W. How else would I make words like Who and Where and Watermelon and Wow you're a lunatic.

[HonestChieffan]

TFG, look, patteeu may be a zionist white n-word traitor and leader of subversive ideas and thoughts. And He may be blood kin to the evil W. But hes our traiter and you should be more temperate in your comments. You dont know whats hes been through and you could cause major backsliding to take place.

You were not here when the worst days were upon him, hearing voices, the constant mental images of Katie Horner and never ending storms, and the animals ....my god the animals.

And dont pick on Dirk if he shows up, hes been stressed a lot too and he needs our support.

[Iowanian]

wonder woman willy wonka wildeberrry koolaide waterpark wingding.




TFG strikes me as the kind of Dbag that would need a bag of jerky to get a dog at the pound to let him pet it.

[HonestChieffan]

TFG acts like he was raped by a menstruating Jewish woman with a pork skin strap-on.

link?

(since jaz and bunion seem to be away, someone needed to do it)

[patteeu]

This is complete Zionist BS. Hezbollah attacked the US Marines in Lebanon because Hezbollah is/was at war with Israel and the US Marines were there to defend Israel... in the 1980s, before President REAGAN pulled them out... to the howls and hate of Zionists everywhere. Our Marines should never have been deployed to serve ISRAEL, and Reagan correctly recognized that. That decision to remove the US military from Lebanon was a great example of patriotism over selling out our troops for political gain. What was THE US NATIONAL INTEREST in keeping Marines in Lebanon? Nothing. Reagan had our troops hit Hezbollah back hard and then pulled them out.


You say Iran is "working with islamist terror groups." I say you are a parrot of treasonous Zionist lies. Iran and Israel are ENEMIES. WE, the US, do not care about that. We support peace and let the UN deal with such situations.

Truth be told, our involvement with the Shah was another really BAD decision. The Shah was a bad guy.

As for the WMDs, no, that was Ahmadinejad, not Rafsanjani. Ahmad only wins in 2005 because of "Axis of Evil" and video from Iraq showing Sunnis blowing up Shia mosques.

When you STICK YOUR NOSE IN A FIGHT THAT YOU AREN'T INVOVLED WITH, DON'T BE SHOCKED IF YOU GET A BLOODY NOSE. That is the lesson of Lebanon.


The truth is that Iran, on 911, was AT WAR WITH THE TALIBAN and had done precisely nothing hostile to the US since the 1980s. Iran was a "Islamic democracy" and we should have accepted their offer to help us wipe out The Taliban.


Good piece on the whole subject here...


http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=11539



"The Iranians, who had been working for years with the main anti-Taliban coalition, the Northern Alliance, also advised the Americans about how to negotiate the major ethnic and political fault lines in the country."

""The Iranians said we don't like al-Qaeda any better than you, and we have assets in Afghanistan that could be useful," Leverett recalls."





It was 100% pure TREASON to flip off Iran right then. Our national interest was to wipe out The Taliban and AQ. We had deployed our forces next to The Northern Alliance. The "Axis of Evil" was about the Bush 2004 campaign getting cash and "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror" media coverage from Zionists, nothing more. It was 100% pure treason. It helped our enemies. It weakened us. It turned allies into non-participants and enemies. And then it got Ahmadinejad elected...

You call my post BS and then you go on and admit that I'm right. Hezbollah, a proxy for Iran, attacked and killed hundreds of US Marines in Lebanon. That's not the act of an ally or a friend. Earlier in the thread, you were incensed about the USS Liberty, where far fewer casualties (25) were involved. That's far from the only example of Iranian use of terrorist/islamist organizations. Iran was a longtime member of our state sponsors of terror list. The fact that Iran opposed the Taliban doesn't redeem them.

At the time of the Axis of Evil speech, we'd known for a long time that Iran had been seeking the ability to process uranium based on their activities with the AQ Kahn proliferation network. This predates Ahmadinejad. I believe the A.Q. Kahn dealings happened when Rafsanjani was President.

[patteeu]

Then someone else "started" it... you treasonous DumbPHUCK.

Duh. Of course. Just like Bush's Global War on Terror.

[Inspector]

They are letting just about anyone have computers these days.

[JohnnyV13]

They are letting just about anyone have computers these days.

Why not, its good therapy for mental health patients.

[Nightfyre]

TFJ voted for Barr? Barr is such a sellout. Lol. Compare his voting record to his rhetoric... Or take what you read at those looney sites at face value. Barr isn't a libertarian. He's an opportunist.
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[TFG]

You don't hold a job, do you?


Thanks to the worst economic record of any President in US history, one who took a superpower with a surplus and wrecked it and sent it into depression by violating every principle of fiscal conservatism save tax cuts.

[Nightfyre]

Thanks to the worst economic record of any President in US history, one who took a superpower with a surplus and wrecked it and sent it into depression by violating every principle of fiscal conservatism save tax cuts.

I'm sure president bush is directly to blame for your unemployment. He personally fired you from taco bell.
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[TFG]

OK, I'll bite.

What is a "white N-word"? I've seen it a few times in this thread but not sure what it means.


There is a real definition of N-word and it is not at all specific to those with black skin. The current "dictionary definition" is a PC revision designed to allow leftists to selectively choose and pillory anyone who uses it. The real definition, one used by former KKKer and Dem Senator from WVa Robert Byrd on TV a few years ago, is that an "n-word" has several specific "qualities."

1. dumb
2. lazy
3. hateful
4. prone to idiotic attempts at publicity


The #4 quality has never been better demonstrated than when W landed that plane on the carrier, as the mission was obviously not accomplished and the N-word had actually made our terror "not a priority," and hence our terror is still at large causing harm on innocent people.

[TFG]

TFG acts like he was raped by a menstruating Jewish woman with a pork skin strap-on.


There are actually videos on youtube and others of Israelites burning Christian Bibles. You should watch a few... if you can see through those two holes in your sheet, coward.

[Nightfyre]

There is a real definition of N-word and it is not at all specific to those with black skin. The current "dictionary definition" is a PC revision designed to allow leftists to selectively choose and pillory anyone who uses it. The real definition, one used by former KKKer and Dem Senator from WVa Robert Byrd on TV a few years ago, is that an "n-word" has several specific "qualities."

1. dumb
2. lazy
3. hateful
4. prone to idiotic attempts at publicity


The #4 quality has never been better demonstrated than when W landed that plane on the carrier, as the mission was obviously not accomplished and the N-word had actually made our terror "not a priority," and hence our terror is still at large causing harm on innocent people.

I failed to account for the dastardly zionist dictionary writers when I read the op. It is all clear to me now.
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[Iowanian]

You're going to take a klan-cap shot at me in the same thread where you've taken shots at Jews, called people white Ns among other brilliant insults?


There are videos on the internet of 2 girls shitting in a cup and eating it, but it's not my place to make fun of your dietary choices.

[ClevelandBronco]

There is a real definition of N-word and it is not at all specific to those with black skin. The current "dictionary definition" is a PC revision designed to allow leftists to selectively choose and pillory anyone who uses it. The real definition, one used by former KKKer and Dem Senator from WVa Robert Byrd on TV a few years ago, is that an "n-word" has several specific "qualities."

1. dumb
2. lazy
3. hateful
4. prone to idiotic attempts at publicity


The #4 quality has never been better demonstrated than when W landed that plane on the carrier, as the mission was obviously not accomplished and the N-word had actually made our terror "not a priority," and hence our terror is still at large causing harm on innocent people.

I thought you meant "neocon."

[HonestChieffan]

quiet, his meds must be working

[TFG]

"Hezbollah, a proxy for Iran, attacked and killed hundreds of US Marines in Lebanon."


That's your version. Mine would be that Hezbollah is at war with Israel and the US should not pick sides and join that fight. It was selling out our troops by politicians to Israeli for money and media. Ronald Reagan stopped it, and I applauded that. There is no question that the Iranian people had real claims against the Shah and anyone who supported the Shah, including us. The Shah was a Shia version of Saddam in a business suit. We were extremely lucky to get our hostages back alive. Had Iran been Sunni and AQ taken it over, they'd all have been killed immediately. Shia Radicalism is different from Sunni Radicalism. At the time in Lebanon, we were also on Saddam's side in the Iran-Iraq war. We should not have been. We should not poke our noses and meddle with centuries old conflicts around the globe other than to support peace and push for UN solutions, like Desert Storm in 1991. We had a fight with Hezbollah in Lebanon and a hostage crisis in Iran, twenty years ago. During the 1990s, Iran "moderated." The best progress to date in Iran was the election of Rafsanjani. W flushed him into the sewer by flipping him off with Axis of Evil. The result of that count of treason was the election of Ahmadinejad in 2005. Ahmad is the problem, not the larger Iranian people, and that truth was on display for all to see recently. Had we allied with Raf against Taliban in 2001, Ahmad never wins, and Iranian "nukes" aren't a problem.

So yeah, according to you we should put England on the "Axis of Evil" for Bunker Hill...




"That's not the act of an ally or a friend. Earlier in the thread, you were incensed about the USS Liberty, where far fewer casualties (25) were involved."


There is a difference. In Lebanon, we were "fighting for Israel." Hence, we were legit military target for Hezbollah at war with Israel. One of the primary Zionist objectives in the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror is to get treasonous white n-words to insist that Israel is a part of the US. It is NOT. Israel has more influence over the US than California does, but it is not a state and it is not part of the US. The Israelis knew the USS Liberty was not in any way hostile to them. They attacked it because we were siding with the larger UN that the 1948 Israel borders were final (ie Israel could not "re-conquer" Canaan with our support). To a serious Jew, that's like flipping off God.



"That's far from the only example of Iranian use of terrorist/islamist organizations."

Not only was the Lebanon incident "war" as opposed to "terror," but Iran really has done precisely nothing to the US when we were not on sight fighting for Israel in the occupied areas. In other words, if we would just not side with those trying to kill Hezbollah, Hezbollah leaves us alone. Ditto for Iran. In fact, post 911, we found ourselves, twenty years past from conflict, with the SAME FRIGGIN ENEMY. Your treasonous birdbrain is too trained by Zionists to parrot "islamists" and "the terrorists" to realize the US national interest was to help Iran and The Northern Alliance wipe out The Taliban and Al Qaeda and PRECISELY NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. Instead, the full circle of Zionist Treason that is complete within your birdbrain, you cheered as W made our terror "not a priority." Not only do you not want our terror wiped out, but you actually want us to wipe out those at war with those responsible for 911 on 911, and Rupert Murdoch, George Tenet, and Abe Foxman cannot stop laughing at how dumb, bigoted and treasonous you are...

[blaise]

No one's reading that. I'd say you wasted your time, but I doubt your time was worth much anyway.

[TFG]

I failed to account for the dastardly zionist dictionary writers when I read the op. It is all clear to me now.
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Interestingly enough, the "PC movement" is chock full of Zionists. Even though Rupert Murdoch orders all of his talking heads to call Joe Lieberman a "moderate," that doesn't make him a moderate. His career ACU rating is 16, with the votes for the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror counting as "conservative," nevermind that CONSERVATIVE FOREIGN POLICY is NON-INTERVENTIONALIST. One of the reasons why Zionists like to play around with things like N-word is because then such things end up IN COURT. If you don't understand why Zionists like things to end up IN COURT, then you have demonstrated the first property of an N-Word yourself...

[TFG]

No one's reading that. I'd say you wasted your time, but I doubt your time was worth much anyway.


You certainly hope nobody reads that.

There is nothing more patriotic than investigating Cheney.

[blaise]

You certainly hope nobody reads that.

There is nothing more patriotic than investigating Cheney.

Other than posting diatribes on NFL message boards for teams your not even a fan of.

[ClevelandBronco]

I'm torn between wanting this idiot to leave immediately or stay forever and ever and ever.

[Nightfyre]

Interestingly enough, the "PC movement" is chock full of Zionists. Even though Rupert Murdoch orders all of his talking heads to call Joe Lieberman a "moderate," that doesn't make him a moderate. His career ACU rating is 16, with the votes for the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror counting as "conservative," nevermind that CONSERVATIVE FOREIGN POLICY is NON-INTERVENTIONALIST. One of the reasons why Zionists like to play around with things like N-word is because then such things end up IN COURT. If you don't understand why Zionists like things to end up IN COURT, then you have demonstrated the first property of an N-Word yourself...

Its funny that you are applying that term to everyone. But what's funnier to me is that you have concretely demonstrated every one of the traits you ascribe to that particular word.

You are clearly dumb, having bought into all of the conspiracy bullshit.

You are clearly lazy, having no job and blaming it on a president.

You are clearly hateful as demonstrated through your entire little rant here.

And you are clearly prone to idiotic attempts at publicity, as you have demonstrated with every post you've ever made on the chiefsplanet forum.

Ironic, no?
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[SHTSPRAYER]

Wow, and you guys thought I was crazy.

:Scanlon:

[CaliforniaChief]

Its funny that you are applying that term to everyone. But what's funnier to me is that you have concretely demonstrated every one of the traits you ascribe to that particular word.

You are clearly dumb, having bought into all of the conspiracy bullshit.

You are clearly lazy, having no job and blaming it on a president.

You are clearly hateful as demonstrated through your entire little rant here.

And you are clearly prone to idiotic attempts at publicity, as you have demonstrated with every post you've ever made on the chiefsplanet forum.

Ironic, no?
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REP!

[patteeu]

"Hezbollah, a proxy for Iran, attacked and killed hundreds of US Marines in Lebanon."


That's your version. Mine would be that Hezbollah is at war with Israel and the US should not pick sides and join that fight. It was selling out our troops by politicians to Israeli for money and media. Ronald Reagan stopped it, and I applauded that. There is no question that the Iranian people had real claims against the Shah and anyone who supported the Shah, including us. The Shah was a Shia version of Saddam in a business suit. We were extremely lucky to get our hostages back alive. Had Iran been Sunni and AQ taken it over, they'd all have been killed immediately. Shia Radicalism is different from Sunni Radicalism. At the time in Lebanon, we were also on Saddam's side in the Iran-Iraq war. We should not have been. We should not poke our noses and meddle with centuries old conflicts around the globe other than to support peace and push for UN solutions, like Desert Storm in 1991. We had a fight with Hezbollah in Lebanon and a hostage crisis in Iran, twenty years ago. During the 1990s, Iran "moderated." The best progress to date in Iran was the election of Rafsanjani. W flushed him into the sewer by flipping him off with Axis of Evil. The result of that count of treason was the election of Ahmadinejad in 2005. Ahmad is the problem, not the larger Iranian people, and that truth was on display for all to see recently. Had we allied with Raf against Taliban in 2001, Ahmad never wins, and Iranian "nukes" aren't a problem.

So yeah, according to you we should put England on the "Axis of Evil" for Bunker Hill...

You can make excuses for people who go out of their way to kill Americans if that's your thing, but it seems out of place in a thread where you're calling almost everyone treasonous.

"That's not the act of an ally or a friend. Earlier in the thread, you were incensed about the USS Liberty, where far fewer casualties (25) were involved."


There is a difference. In Lebanon, we were "fighting for Israel." Hence, we were legit military target for Hezbollah at war with Israel. One of the primary Zionist objectives in the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror is to get treasonous white n-words to insist that Israel is a part of the US. It is NOT. Israel has more influence over the US than California does, but it is not a state and it is not part of the US. The Israelis knew the USS Liberty was not in any way hostile to them. They attacked it because we were siding with the larger UN that the 1948 Israel borders were final (ie Israel could not "re-conquer" Canaan with our support). To a serious Jew, that's like flipping off God.

Israel told me to tell you that they've got their eyes on you and they're not happy.

"That's far from the only example of Iranian use of terrorist/islamist organizations."

Not only was the Lebanon incident "war" as opposed to "terror," but Iran really has done precisely nothing to the US when we were not on sight fighting for Israel in the occupied areas. In other words, if we would just not side with those trying to kill Hezbollah, Hezbollah leaves us alone. Ditto for Iran. In fact, post 911, we found ourselves, twenty years past from conflict, with the SAME FRIGGIN ENEMY. Your treasonous birdbrain is too trained by Zionists to parrot "islamists" and "the terrorists" to realize the US national interest was to help Iran and The Northern Alliance wipe out The Taliban and Al Qaeda and PRECISELY NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. Instead, the full circle of Zionist Treason that is complete within your birdbrain, you cheered as W made our terror "not a priority." Not only do you not want our terror wiped out, but you actually want us to wipe out those at war with those responsible for 911 on 911, and Rupert Murdoch, George Tenet, and Abe Foxman cannot stop laughing at how dumb, bigoted and treasonous you are...

I don't get caught up in the pathetically-beside-the-point issue of whether the killing of Americans is called an act of "war" or an act of "terrorism". I just recognize that when it happens, it shouldn't be excused just because the guys who did it don't like Israel.

The US national interest is to do what we can to prevent the adherents to the ideology that drives both Al Qaeda and the Iranian theocracy, among others, from attacking us again, particularly with nuclear weapons. To that end, we have interests in preventing belligerent states like Iran from acquiring nukes and we have interests in denying non-state-actors whether card-carrying al Qaeda or otherwise from establishing safe havens in which they can plot and train.

You can disagree if you want, but don't think for a minute that your blame-America-first ideology gives you the moral authority to call me treasonous, you gutter-level nutcase.

[patteeu]

You certainly hope nobody reads that.

There is nothing more patriotic than investigating Cheney.

OK, now you've gone too far with your traitorous nonsense. :cuss: LMAO

[patteeu]

Wow, and you guys thought I was crazy.

:Scanlon:

You are now officially a moderate. As are BEP and Killer Clown.

[CaliforniaChief]

Get off your damn computer, come out my basement for one time a day and get to the table. I made your favorite meatloaf, hunny-bun!/TFG's mother.

[KC Dan]

Get off your damn computer, come out my basement for one time a day and get to the table. I made your favorite meatloaf, hunny-bun!/TFG's mother."Mooooom, Meatloaf!!!"

[TFG]

"You can make excuses for people who go out of their way to kill Americans if that's your thing, but it seems out of place in a thread where you're calling almost everyone treasonous."

LOL!! It is treason to empower your enemy and weaken the US. Both the deployment in Lebanon in the 1980s and the Iraq Treason did that. Reagan stopped Treason 1. W pushed Treason 2. The invasion of Iraq weakened the US for nothing in the US national interest, getting 4000 killed and 30000 maimed at a cost of a trillion dollars over intentional lies designed to get money and media coverage for Bush/Cheney 04. The invasion of Iraq "liberated" millions of Iraqi Sunnis who were then free to join our enemy, Al Qaeda, and many did.


Treason - The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort.


The intentional lies that dumped our heroes in uniform in Iraq fully qualifies on all counts.




"Israel told me to tell you that they've got their eyes on you and they're not happy."

Obviously you are a Zionist Traitor and you support Israel and view the US as a tool for accomplishing Zionist objectives. Israel is aware of me. Funny, too, since the Mossad has yet to "finish the job." Time is ticking. There is more to come out other than just Cheney's treason at the CIA.



"I don't get caught up in the pathetically-beside-the-point issue of whether the killing of Americans is called an act of "war" or an act of "terrorism"."

No, as a Zionist Traitor, you just want US troops dying for the cause of a "Greater Israel."




"The US national interest is to do what we can to prevent the adherents to the ideology that drives both Al Qaeda and the Iranian theocracy"


See TREASON COUNT #4, blurring Sunni Al Qaeda into all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. On 911, Iran was arming and funding Northern Alliance, which was at war with Al Qaeda. To your treasonous birdbrain, that makes them "the same." To US national interest, one is the enemy who committed the act of war that was 911, and the other was the "enemy of our enemy." To you, no matter what, Israel is more important than the US.




"from attacking us again, particularly with nuclear weapons"

Wow, your treasonous birdbrain is just chock full of every Zionist lie from the FIXED NOISE network. Did you watch every episode of "24?" Hint: we were never attacked with nukes. Iraq did not have nukes. Cheney and W lied about that and treasonously outed the CIA Agent who told the truth about that. Does that anger you, JEW? NO!! As a Zionist TRAITOR, you CHEER every LIE that get US TROOPS KILLED for the cause of a Greater Israel.

Iran was in no way a problem before W flipped them off with Axis of Evil and in the process flipped off the allies our troops were fighting with against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Afghanistan may no longer be "winnable" because of that COUNT 1 of TREASON.


"we have interests in preventing belligerent states like Iran from acquiring nukes"

LOL!

"we" meaning ISRAEL and JEWS.

We, the US, had an interest in promoting the moderate democratically elected leader of Iran in 2001, Rafsanjani. Instead, because of W's TREASON, Raf lost to Ahmadinejad. Indeed, Zionist "conservative" Daniel Pipes was actually cheering for Ahmad in 2008, because all Pipes cares about is getting the US to use the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies, especially Iran. Nuke is 60 year old tech. We had an interest in preventing Pakistan, India, and many others from getting that tech. That tech is too old to stop. Rather, we should adhere to the principles of US national interest, not selling out our troops over lies to a foreign lobby so a traitor in the White House can get money and media coverage for re-election.


"You can disagree if you want, but don't think for a minute that your blame-America-first ideology gives you the moral authority to call me treasonous"


IF you cared one bit about America, which your treasonous birdbrain clearly does not, you would be outraged that 4000 Americans are dead, 30000 are maimed, and the US is out a trillion dollars over intentional lies by traitors you support, precisely NO US NATIONAL INTEREST, no threat, no WMDs, and NO AQ or 911 connection. WHERE IS YOUR OUTRAGE OVER THAT, TRAITOR?

A: you believe the US exists to serve Israel. You deserve DEATH for that.

[blaise]

Why is this anti-semetic bullshit acceptable?

[TFG]

Why is this anti-semetic bullshit acceptable?



Yes yes indeed, you, the United States, DO EXIST TO SERVE ISRAEL, and everyone who points out the truth of that should be CENSORED, just like the Bible Burnings in Israel directed by elected Israeli officials still in office, likely one who shook hands with treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist Mike Huck-a-THUMP.

Nobody is allowed to tell the truth of the Zionist Treason in the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror. Nobody is allowed to investigate the liars behind the Treason that was Iraq. Everyone who broke the law to lie to dump our heroes in uniform in Iraq should be ABOVE THE LAW because Zionist Traitors want it that way.


Indeed, let nobody be confused about David Broder's opposition to the Cheney investigation. Broder is a genuine WaPost ZIONIST, a left winger on all issues, including the LIBERAL use of the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies. Broder and Zionist Traitor George Tenet are big heroes to the ADL, and Broder doesn't want Tenet's treason outed in a Cheney investigation.


TOO F-ING BAD, Zionist Traitors. Your ability to bully and censor America and Americans is at an END...

[blaise]

Yes yes indeed, you, the United States, DO EXIST TO SERVE ISRAEL, and everyone who points out the truth of that should be CENSORED, just like the Bible Burnings in Israel directed by elected Israeli officials still in office, likely one who shook hands with treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist Mike Huck-a-THUMP.

Nobody is allowed to tell the truth of the Zionist Treason in the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror. Nobody is allowed to investigate the liars behind the Treason that was Iraq. Everyone who broke the law to lie to dump our heroes in uniform in Iraq should be ABOVE THE LAW because Zionist Traitors want it that way.


Indeed, let nobody be confused about David Broder's opposition to the Cheney investigation. Broder is a genuine WaPost ZIONIST, a left winger on all issues, including the LIBERAL use of the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies. Broder and Zionist Traitor George Tenet are big heroes to the ADL, and Broder doesn't want Tenet's treason outed in a Cheney investigation.


TOO F-ING BAD, Zionist Traitors. Your ability to bully and censor America and Americans is at an END...


Your ability to be gainfully employed is at an end. You're probably sucking off the governments dick for a check while you're accusing them of treason.

[Inspector]

There is a real definition of N-word and it is not at all specific to those with black skin. The current "dictionary definition" is a PC revision designed to allow leftists to selectively choose and pillory anyone who uses it. The real definition, one used by former KKKer and Dem Senator from WVa Robert Byrd on TV a few years ago, is that an "n-word" has several specific "qualities."

1. dumb
2. lazy
3. hateful
4. prone to idiotic attempts at publicity


The #4 quality has never been better demonstrated than when W landed that plane on the carrier, as the mission was obviously not accomplished and the N-word had actually made our terror "not a priority," and hence our terror is still at large causing harm on innocent people.

OK....I get it now. The term "N-word" is a way of saying the derogatory word for black folks. I'm used to seeing the "N" followed by a set of "*****" and I immediatly know what that is.

I just hadn't seen it filtered like that.

DOH!:doh!:

[SHTSPRAYER]

I'm guessing this TFG is white and at least 45 years old.

Lives in Idaho? Works for the Post Office?

ROFL

[Inspector]

Say what you want about TFG but I have to say I'm really impressed with his typing.

Dude can flat out fly on the keyboard.

My ID would time out if I tried to type out so many words.

I would miss lunch.

I need to stop and shave.

Typist of the year, I tell ya what.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Say what you want about TFG but I have to say I'm really impressed with his typing.

Dude can flat out fly on the keyboard.

My ID would time out if I tried to type out so many words.

I would miss lunch.

I need to stop and shave.

Typist of the year, I tell ya what.

:Elvis:

[SHTSPRAYER]

Yes yes indeed, you, the United States, DO EXIST TO SERVE ISRAEL, and everyone who points out the truth of that should be CENSORED, just like the Bible Burnings in Israel directed by elected Israeli officials still in office, likely one who shook hands with treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist Mike Huck-a-THUMP.

Nobody is allowed to tell the truth of the Zionist Treason in the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror. Nobody is allowed to investigate the liars behind the Treason that was Iraq. Everyone who broke the law to lie to dump our heroes in uniform in Iraq should be ABOVE THE LAW because Zionist Traitors want it that way.


Indeed, let nobody be confused about David Broder's opposition to the Cheney investigation. Broder is a genuine WaPost ZIONIST, a left winger on all issues, including the LIBERAL use of the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies. Broder and Zionist Traitor George Tenet are big heroes to the ADL, and Broder doesn't want Tenet's treason outed in a Cheney investigation.


TOO F-ING BAD, Zionist Traitors. Your ability to bully and censor America and Americans is at an END...

:popcorn:

[patteeu]

See TREASON COUNT #4, blurring Sunni Al Qaeda into all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. On 911, Iran was arming and funding Northern Alliance, which was at war with Al Qaeda. To your treasonous birdbrain, that makes them "the same." To US national interest, one is the enemy who committed the act of war that was 911, and the other was the "enemy of our enemy." To you, no matter what, Israel is more important than the US.

The GWoT isn't just about 9/11. It's also about the Lebanon barracks bombing, the Achille Laurel hijacking, the Iranian hostage taking, the Lockerbie Pan Am bombing, the USS Cole bombing, US embassy bombings, and many other attacks against the US and western civilization that have been instigated by islamist terrorists and their state sponsors over the years. 9/11 was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Wow, your treasonous birdbrain is just chock full of every Zionist lie from the FIXED NOISE network. Did you watch every episode of "24?" Hint: we were never attacked with nukes. Iraq did not have nukes. Cheney and W lied about that and treasonously outed the CIA Agent who told the truth about that. Does that anger you, JEW? NO!! As a Zionist TRAITOR, you CHEER every LIE that get US TROOPS KILLED for the cause of a Greater Israel.

As our post war investigations have confirmed, Saddam never abandoned his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. Left to his own devices, he would have eventually become the nuclear threat that "Cheney and W" correctly warned us about. There was no lie on their part and the CIA agent who was outed never had anything to say about it (at least not before her outing). Your story is as full of holes as Israel is full of JEWS! LMAO

*more foaming-mouthed idiocy that isn't worth a reply*

You should really learn how to use the quote tags. It won't make your posts any less moronic, but it might make them easier to read.

Just put a copy of the "" at the beginning and a copy of "" at the end of each quoted passage and you'll be good to go. (btw, I've replaced the u in quote with a v so that the system wouldn't think i'm trying to actually quote something).

[patteeu]

Why is this anti-semetic bullshit acceptable?

Personally, I find it entertaining (I'm apparently low brow in that way), but as my mom used to tell me, "it's all fun and games until someone's eye gets poked out" so maybe I'm wrong.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Wow, and you guys thought I was crazy.

:Scanlon:

Nobody ever thought you were crazy. Unemployed? Yes.

[TFG]

"The GWoT isn't just about 9/11."


There you go again with your treasonous blurring of Sunni Al Qaeda, the small band of rag tags in Afghan who hit us on 911, into all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. Indeed, you didn't even phrase it correctly, because your treasonous white n-word President made OBL and AQ "not a priority." You should phrase it this way:

The Global War on (Exclusively Anti-Israel) Terror was all about getting treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist George W Bush re-elected with tons of Zionist cash and favorable Zionist media coverage from left wing Judy Miller of the NYT to Rupert Murdoch. Zionists in the media would call patriotic Americans who understood Saddam and Osama could not possibly be allies "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror." The GWo(EAI)T made sure OBL stayed alive and at large because Karl Rove told W he would get re-elected if he was "I'm a war President."



"It's also about the Lebanon barracks bombing"


No, Reagan made sure Hezbollah took a pounding before we left Lebanon.



"the Iranian hostage taking"

was all about our support for the Shah. We were lucky to get those back alive. Indeed, as a treasonous white n-word, you do not understand the difference between Sunni and Shia radicalism. Sunni is much worse, but don't let that stop you from putting your treasonous white n-word nose further up Jew Supremacist Rupert Murdoch's butt. Indeed, our support for Saddam and Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s was also "about those hostages." What a great thing we did, supporting Saddam... NOT.





"the USS Cole bombing"


OOoops, there you go again, confusing our terror. That was Al Qaeda, the same as those who hit us on 911. Your treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist hero W made them NOT A PRIORITY. Nice going, n-word. Israel wanted OBL alive and fighting against Israel's enemy Iran, so W obliged with a "YES MASTER" and made sure he was "not a priority" by sending a puny 7k force to Afghan. Still alive and at large today, OBL is the best evidence yet of what the Wo(EAI)T was all about...



"that have been instigated by islamist terrorists"


It just wouldn't be complete without the "blurring" of everyone Islamic together. They are all one and the same to the treasonous white n-word with the sub 30 IQ who could not find Iran on a map, nevermind that Iran was at war with AQ on 911. If you have no clue about what you are parroting, it would be wise not to get more US troops killed for nothing in our national interest because of it.


"As our post war investigations have confirmed, Saddam never abandoned his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons"

Curious, since there is precisely no evidence to support that claim. But, heck, if a Zionist Traitor says it, your treasonous white n-word BIRDBRAIN will PARROT it. Where were the WMDs? Yeah, up Rupert Murdoch's butt, right where your nose is...



"There was no lie on their part and the CIA agent who was outed never had anything to say about it "


That's a treasonous lie from a white n-word traitor. Valerie Plame correctly assessed that Saddam was not procuring yellowcake from Niger, something W and Cheney said he was. Plame correctly noted that Saddam actually had yellowcake and could not enrich it, because he did not have a centrifuge. Remember how treasonous white n-words and your Zionist masters tried to claim Saddam was trying to "get nukes" because we "found" yellowcake there? Yeah, the yellowcake the UN knew about in 1991... still unenriched and hence harmless. Any idea what a CENTRIFUGE is? Of course not. That's way too sophisticated for a treasonous white n-word like you.


Saddam was a toothless UN problem in 2001. The intentional treasonous lies from W, Cheney, and the CIA under Zionist Traitor George Tenet that led us into Iraq were as follows:


1. He is "harboring terrorists." (reality: he had a few notorious ones under house arrest doing nothing. Making trouble in Saddam's Iraq meant DEATH - there were precisely no Al Qaeda there at all)
2. He is acquiring nuclear materials from Africa (flat out lie that was covered by a treasonous crime of outing truth telling CIA agent Valerie Plame)
3. He "trained Al Qaeda in chem weapons" - Dick Cheney. The "evidence" of this? One and only one tortured Gitmo agreed to say that to stop the torture, and later told the FBI it was BS and he was not AQ. That individual was murdered months ago in Libya.



Nice try.

As a treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist, you deserve impalement for your treason, because you need to GET THE POINT that the US does not exist to serve Israel.

[blaise]

I can't believe you wrote that whole thing up. You do realize no one is reading your loony bin garbage, right?

[frazod]

I see Shitsprayer has found a soulmate. LMAO

[Inspector]

I like TFG. He makes me feel like less of a lunatic.

I've never read what all he writes, just the big highlighted words, but that's enough to know what's going on with him.

[Donger]

I bet the fact that Hitler may have had a good dose of Jewish blood flowing though his veins really irks TFG.

[SHTSPRAYER]

I bet the fact that Hitler may have had a good dose of Jewish blood flowing though his veins really irks TFG.

ROFL

[Inspector]

I bet the fact that Hitler may have had a good dose of Jewish blood flowing though his veins really irks TFG.

Hitler probably didn't care for that either. Ooops.

[TFG]

I bet the fact that Hitler may have had a good dose of Jewish blood flowing though his veins really irks TFG.



As Colin Ferguson claimed that his slaughter of innocent white passengers on a commuter train was all about "slavery, racism, and white hatred of blacks," there can be no denying that the only 2 things Zionist Traitors can do about my posts are A) play the anti-semite card and B) lie and smear.


Isn't it ironic just how many like left wing WaPo "reporter" David Broder fear these "investigations" into Cheney?

LOL...


Cheney's fear is palpable. He can already feel the rope around his neck...


and his Zionist allies from the left and right are furiously trying to smear the prosecutor and get the investigation stopped.


LOL...


Yeah...

[Donger]

As Colin Ferguson claimed that his slaughter of innocent white passengers on a commuter train was all about "slavery, racism, and white hatred of blacks," there can be no denying that the only 2 things Zionist Traitors can do about my posts are A) play the anti-semite card and B) lie and smear.


Isn't it ironic just how many like left wing WaPo "reporter" David Broder fear these "investigations" into Cheney?

LOL...


Cheney's fear is palpable. He can already feel the rope around his neck...


and his Zionist allies from the left and right are furiously trying to smear the prosecutor and get the investigation stopped.


LOL...


Yeah...

So, just for the record, Hitler having a good dose of Jewish blood would not bother you?

[patteeu]

I see that Tin Foil Guy still can't figure out how to use quote tags. It's kind of a turn-off, IMO.

"As our post war investigations have confirmed, Saddam never abandoned his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons"

Curious, since there is precisely no evidence to support that claim. But, heck, if a Zionist Traitor says it, your treasonous white n-word BIRDBRAIN will PARROT it. Where were the WMDs? Yeah, up Rupert Murdoch's butt, right where your nose is...

I'm sure that no evidence can be found on the pages of the lunatic fringe websites from which you get your information, but in the real world the Iraq Survey Group spent months assessing evidence all over Iraq and here is one of the key findings in their final report (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/isg-final-report_vol1_rsi_key-findings.htm):

Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that which previously existed. Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities.

* Iran was the pre-eminent motivator of this policy. All senior level Iraqi officials considered Iran to be Iraq’s principal enemy in the region. The wish to balance Israel and acquire status and influence in the Arab world were also considerations, but secondary.
* Iraq Survey Group (ISG) judges that events in the 1980s and early 1990s shaped Saddam’s belief in the value of WMD. In Saddam’s view, WMD helped to save the Regime multiple times. He believed that during the Iran-Iraq war chemical weapons had halted Iranian ground offensives and that ballistic missile attacks on Tehran had broken its political will. Similarly, during Desert Storm, Saddam believed WMD had deterred Coalition Forces from pressing their attack beyond the goal of freeing Kuwait. WMD had even played a role in crushing the Shi’a revolt in the south following the 1991 cease-fire.
* The former Regime had no formal written strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions. Neither was there an identifiable group of WMD policy makers or planners separate from Saddam. Instead, his lieutenants understood WMD revival was his goal from their long association with Saddam and his infrequent, but firm, verbal comments and directions to them.

"There was no lie on their part and the CIA agent who was outed never had anything to say about it "

That's a treasonous lie from a white n-word traitor. Valerie Plame correctly assessed that Saddam was not procuring yellowcake from Niger, something W and Cheney said he was. Plame correctly noted that Saddam actually had yellowcake and could not enrich it, because he did not have a centrifuge. Remember how treasonous white n-words and your Zionist masters tried to claim Saddam was trying to "get nukes" because we "found" yellowcake there? Yeah, the yellowcake the UN knew about in 1991... still unenriched and hence harmless. Any idea what a CENTRIFUGE is? Of course not. That's way too sophisticated for a treasonous white n-word like you.

Valerie Plame had never spoken publicly on this subject at all until long after she was outed. You're getting her confused with her husband, Ambassador Joe Wilson, who wasn't a CIA agent, outed or otherwise. As much of a complete screw-up that mistake is, it's not even close to the worst misapprehension you have about the GWoT subject.

I don't recall George W. Bush or Dick Cheney ever saying that Saddam was procuring yellowcake from Niger. You must be confusing the time when George W. Bush reported in his famous 16 words that the BRITISH believed that Saddam was ATTEMPTING to procure yellowcake from Niger. This was true. British intelligence had indeed made that assessment. A British investigation led by Lord Butler found that Bush's statement was "well founded". You can read about it here on this website funded by Jews (http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_uranium.html).

[Stewie]

TFG is mad about something and it's someone else's fault. His type are a dime a dozen. I've been on this earth over 40 years and have seen it all politically. Ya know, that stuff just isn't worth getting dysfunctional over. Kick back and enjoy life. There are much better things to do with your time.

[TFG]

So, just for the record, Hitler having a good dose of Jewish blood would not bother you?



LOL...

Wasn't one of the top Hilter aids Jewish? Goebbels??


Would it be better if Mao had Australian blood? Would that make the tens of millions he murdered more or less of an outrage???



Man is accountable for actions regardless of DNA. That is my take. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, heck even toss in Winnie Mandela and her "necklacings," are all mass murderers of innocent people.

[TFG]

"his lieutenants understood WMD revival was his goal from their long association with Saddam and his infrequent, but firm, verbal comments and directions to them."


I heard some Eskimos have the same plan too... GO GET EM!!!!


Who are you, Tom Cruise?


The UN had Saddam cowering in fear that Iran would take his country, because ever since Desert Storm, Iran could have just walked right in and blown away what Saddam had left of his military at the time. Saddam knew that. The noises about nukes were to deter Iran. But then again, Iran has like never invaded anyone... Iraq started the Iran-Iraq war. Iran is not "imperialistic" like Saddam and Israel. Iran rather has fought against Saddam and Israel and Al Qaeda/Taliban.

[Donger]

"his lieutenants understood WMD revival was his goal from their long association with Saddam and his infrequent, but firm, verbal comments and directions to them."


I heard some Eskimos have the same plan too... GO GET EM!!!!


Who are you, Tom Cruise?


The UN had Saddam cowering in fear that Iran would take his country, because ever since Desert Storm, Iran could have just walked right in and blown away what Saddam had left of his military at the time. Saddam knew that. The noises about nukes were to deter Iran. But then again, Iran has like never invaded anyone... Iraq started the Iran-Iraq war. Iran is not "imperialistic" like Saddam and Israel. Iran rather has fought against Saddam and Israel and Al Qaeda/Taliban.

Hmmm. Anti-Israel and pro-Iran?

[TFG]

"I don't recall George W. Bush or Dick Cheney ever saying that Saddam was procuring yellowcake from Niger. "


There comes a point where honest debate ceases to be that, and becomes and endless series of lies and shout downs...


We know there were "documents" from Niger that were INTENTIONAL FORGERIES. Of course, the treasonous white n-words and their Zionist masters at Fixed Noise are not at all outraged that someone FORGED DOCUMENTS to INTENTIONALLY LIE that Saddam was after yellowcake in Niger...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries#.22Sixteen_Words.22_controversy_in_2003_State_of_the_Union


"In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[2]"



He phrased it that was because our intelligence had individuals like Plame saying that was BS, because Saddam already had unenriched yellowcake and couldn't enrich it. Saddam's problem was not uranium - he had that. His problem was he did not have anything to "enrich" it and make it really dangerous. Saddam did not have a CENTRIFUGE...


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/


"pdated 3:57 p.m. PT, Sat., July 5, 2008

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."




"Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say."


"The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.

"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said."



"A CIA officer, Valerie Plame, claimed her identity was leaked to journalists to retaliate against her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, who wrote that he had found no evidence to support assertions that Iraq tried to buy additional yellowcake from Niger.

A federal investigation led to the conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice."





And yes, Libby is a Zionist, and so is NYT reporter Judy Miller, who went to prison to protect Libby...

[TFG]

Hmmm. Anti-Israel and pro-Iran?


Anti imperialist. Anti treason.

[patteeu]

"I don't recall George W. Bush or Dick Cheney ever saying that Saddam was procuring yellowcake from Niger. "


There comes a point where honest debate ceases to be that, and becomes and endless series of lies and shout downs...


We know there were "documents" from Niger that were INTENTIONAL FORGERIES. Of course, the treasonous white n-words and their Zionist masters at Fixed Noise are not at all outraged that someone FORGED DOCUMENTS to INTENTIONALLY LIE that Saddam was after yellowcake in Niger...

Sorry, dude, the Butler Report addresses this issue and again makes you look like a fool. It indicated that it's conclusions were based on multiple intelligence sources and that they were not based on the forged documents to which you refer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries#.22Sixteen_Words.22_controversy_in_2003_State_of_the_Union


"In his January 2003 State of the Union speech, U.S. President George W. Bush said, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."[2]"



He phrased it that was because our intelligence had individuals like Plame saying that was BS, because Saddam already had unenriched yellowcake and couldn't enrich it. Saddam's problem was not uranium - he had that. His problem was he did not have anything to "enrich" it and make it really dangerous. Saddam did not have a CENTRIFUGE...

Whether or not Saddam had a centrifuge is irrelevant to the issue of whether or not Bush lied unless he actually believed that Saddam did not, which is something you have no way of proving. You admit that he was careful with his wording because the US intelligence community couldn't/wouldn't endorse the British finding. If he intended to lie, there's no reason to wordsmith the statement like that. Instead, he'd be better off telling the American people that our own spooks came up with the information. No, the reason he wordsmithed the statement was precisely because he was being careful to tell the truth.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/


"pdated 3:57 p.m. PT, Sat., July 5, 2008

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."




"Yellowcake is obtained by using various solutions to leach out uranium from raw ore and can have a corn meal-like color and consistency. It poses no severe risk if stored and sealed properly. But exposure carries well-documented health concerns associated with heavy metals such as damage to internal organs, experts say."


"The Iraqi government sold the yellowcake to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp., in a transaction the official described as worth "tens of millions of dollars." A Cameco spokesman, Lyle Krahn, declined to discuss the price, but said the yellowcake will be processed at facilities in Ontario for use in energy-producing reactors.

"We are pleased ... that we have taken (the yellowcake) from a volatile region into a stable area to produce clean electricity," he said."



"A CIA officer, Valerie Plame, claimed her identity was leaked to journalists to retaliate against her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, who wrote that he had found no evidence to support assertions that Iraq tried to buy additional yellowcake from Niger.

A federal investigation led to the conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice."





And yes, Libby is a Zionist, and so is NYT reporter Judy Miller, who went to prison to protect Libby...

Her identity was leaked by Richard Armitage who was not one of the hawkish ideologues in the administration. The reporter who he leaked it to was opposed to the Bush policy. Neither man had a motive that would lend your theory any plausibility.

[TFG]

"The reporter who he leaked it to was opposed to the Bush policy"


Yes, that was the late Robert Novak, who couldn't be a "conservative" because he didn't support W's big spending, W's socialization of senior drugs by lying to Congress about the cost, and W's Iraq Treason. Novak also did not believe the US existed to serve Israel as you and other "conservatives" here do. Novak was the one who stood up and told McCain that pro gay, pro abortion, pro tax, pro spend, and anti Boy Scout Joe Lieberman was not a suitable GOP VP pick.



"Whether or not Saddam had a centrifuge is irrelevant" ... to whether or not treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialists would support W's treason and leasing of the US military to Israel. Understanding that Saddam had TONS and TONS of unenriched yellowcake and COULD NOT ENRICH ANY OF IT was way beyond the intellectual capacity of a treasonous white n-word W supporter.



"You admit that he was careful with his wording because the US intelligence community couldn't/wouldn't endorse the British finding"

LOL!!! Everyone, including Zionist Traitor CIA Director George Tenet, understood that raw yellowcake was not the "obstacle" preventing Saddam from developing nukes. Hence, the claim that Saddam was trying to acquire more yellowcake without being able to enrich the yellowcake he already had was a ridiculously obvious LIE, almost as obvious as the claim Saddam and Osama were anything other than diametrically opposed fanatics who wanted each other DEAD. You had to be a real N-WORD level RETARD to fall for any of that TREASON.



"No, the reason he wordsmithed the statement was precisely because he was being careful to tell the truth."

LMAO!!!!


How many lies of W do you want documented? How about the one he told Congress in order to SOCIALIZE SENIOR DRUGS like a "conservative" according to you?

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/us/inquiry-confirms-top-medicare-official-threatened-actuary-over-cost-drug.html

"An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged."


In other words, W was so eager to buy the Senior vote that he not only lied to Congress about the cost of socializing senior drugs, but he also had the White House Actuary THREATENED to shut up about the real cost estimate. A true conservative would be outraged that SOCIALIZED SENIOR DRUGS passed Congress because of INTENTIONAL FRAUD by W. Indeed, the whole thing about how that passed was an impeachable offense.



There was precisely no evidence that Saddam was either associated with OBL, had anything to do with 911, was getting more uranium, or anything else used to justify getting 4000 US troops killed and 30000 maimed. Indeed, the stated "reasons" were the most obvious lies.


Just imagine the conversation between Plame and Tenet.


Tenet: We want to say Saddam was acquring yellowcake
Plame: He already has tons of yellowcake he cannot enrich. Why does he need more when he cannot enrich it? Yellowcake is expensive.
Tenet: You shut TF up, American. You serve Israel.


Tenet before the Congress: It is a SLAM DUNK Saddam has WMD

[patteeu]

"The reporter who he leaked it to was opposed to the Bush policy"


Yes, that was the late Robert Novak, who couldn't be a "conservative" because he didn't support W's big spending, W's socialization of senior drugs by lying to Congress about the cost, and W's Iraq Treason. Novak also did not believe the US existed to serve Israel as you and other "conservatives" here do. Novak was the one who stood up and told McCain that pro gay, pro abortion, pro tax, pro spend, and anti Boy Scout Joe Lieberman was not a suitable GOP VP pick.

Yes, and look where he is now. Get the message or you could be next. ROFL

[patteeu]

There was precisely no evidence that Saddam was either associated with OBL, had anything to do with 911, was getting more uranium, or anything else used to justify getting 4000 US troops killed and 30000 maimed. Indeed, the stated "reasons" were the most obvious lies.


Just imagine the conversation between Plame and Tenet.


Tenet: We want to say Saddam was acquring yellowcake
Plame: He already has tons of yellowcake he cannot enrich. Why does he need more when he cannot enrich it? Yellowcake is expensive.
Tenet: You shut TF up, American. You serve Israel.


Tenet before the Congress: It is a SLAM DUNK Saddam has WMD

I think "imagine" is the key word here. In fact, it's the key word for your whole thesis. You're laughably un/misinformed on this subject.

I've kept you engaged here long enough though that the JEWS should know who and where you are by now. Prepare yourself. ROFL

[TFG]

Yes, and look where he is now. Get the message or you could be next. ROFL


It is quite telling that a "W supporter" hates Robert Novak...


Novak was a true conservative.

W was a Bible Thumping Socialist.

[TFG]

I think "imagine" is the key word here. In fact, it's the key word for your whole thesis. You're laughably un/misinformed on this subject.

I've kept you engaged here long enough though that the JEWS should know who and where you are by now. Prepare yourself. ROFL



It is quite telling that this treasonous white n-word wants "Jews" to kill me. As a treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist, patteeu believes the US exists to serve Israel, and also believe Americans who do not subscribe to that notion should be offed, and then cheered when offed.


Yes, indeed, Iran is more "pro American" than you are...

[patteeu]

It is quite telling that a "W supporter" hates Robert Novak...


Novak was a true conservative.

W was a Bible Thumping Socialist.

Who said I hate Novak? I was actually a big fan. So I guess it's not all that telling afterall. Do you ever get anything right?

[Iowanian]

It is quite telling that this treasonous white n-word wants "Jews" to kill me. As a treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist, patteeu believes the US exists to serve Israel, and also believe Americans who do not subscribe to that notion should be offed, and then cheered when offed.


Yes, indeed, Iran is more "pro American" than you are...



You forgot to say "YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI"


You should be banned for your use of racism.

[TFG]

Who said I hate Novak? I was actually a big fan. So I guess it's not all that telling afterall. Do you ever get anything right?


Claiming to be a "fan" of both Novak and W is like claiming to be a "fan" of both Carter and Reagan. Two completely opposite philosophies. Novak hated W. Novak believed W was "ruining the conservative movement." Novak was right. Conservative does not mean socialist, big spending traitor, which is how history will remember W.

[TFG]

You forgot to say "YIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI"


You should be banned for your use of racism.



Another "conservative" W supporter .... supporting censorship of the truth that he supported treason he parroted from Zionists because he was a


TREASONOUS WHITE N-WORD BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALIST WITH A SUB 30 IQ, TOO DUMB TO HAVE A CLUE, TOO LAZY TO GET A CLUE, and TOO HATEFUL TO CARE



as 4000 US heroes in uniform were killed and 30000 maimed all for intentional lies so that the treasonous white n-word President Iowanian supported could raise cash and get favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby chock full of Bible Burning pro gay pro abortion left wingers...

[patteeu]

Have you ever posted on Stormfront.org, Tin Foil Guy? I bet you'd find a lot of your fellow patriots there.

[TFG]

Have you ever posted on Stormfront.org, Tin Foil Guy? I bet you'd find a lot of your fellow patriots there.



It is, rather, hilarious that you call me "Tin Foil Guy."

Try reading the current "Global Warming" topic, dumbdumb.

I am an equal opportunity American warrior against crime, fraud, and treason.

[Nightfyre]

Another "conservative" W supporter .... supporting censorship of the truth that he supported treason he parroted from Zionists because he was a


TREASONOUS WHITE N-WORD BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALIST WITH A SUB 30 IQ, TOO DUMB TO HAVE A CLUE, TOO LAZY TO GET A CLUE, and TOO HATEFUL TO CARE



as 4000 US heroes in uniform were killed and 30000 maimed all for intentional lies so that the treasonous white n-word President Iowanian supported could raise cash and get favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby chock full of Bible Burning pro gay pro abortion left wingers...

Don't tear your vagina while making that strech. I'm disappointed my other posts haven't gotten responses.
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[kcfanXIII]

You are really happy that 4000 are dead, 30000 are maimed, 1 trillion is out the door, and all over intentional lies and precisely nothing in our national interest in Iraq, while our terror is still at large because your treasonous white n-word hero, the worst Prez in US history, made him "not a priority." That makes you what???

don't expect an answer to your question, they will continue to attack you by calling you crazy. according to them, there were wmd in iraq, there was a connection between saddam and AQ, and no matter how much evidence points the other direction, they still believe the crap the corperate media spewed at them leading up to the iraq war.

[TFG]

don't expect an answer to your question, they will continue to attack you by calling you crazy. according to them, there were wmd in iraq, there was a connection between saddam and AQ, and no matter how much evidence points the other direction, they still believe the crap the corperate media spewed at them leading up to the iraq war.


You call it the "corporate media." The NYT is a "corporation" but it is ridiculously left wing and "anti-corporate." The connection between media support of Iraq isn't "corporate," it is Zionist. Most American CEOs are smart enough to figure out what an unreal disaster Iraq has been for the US and the world. Global businesses especially.

[kcfanXIII]

You call it the "corporate media." The NYT is a "corporation" but it is ridiculously left wing and "anti-corporate." The connection between media support of Iraq isn't "corporate," it is Zionist. Most American CEOs are smart enough to figure out what an unreal disaster Iraq has been for the US and the world. Global businesses especially.

no the corporate media is in reference to the group of media, written and televised, that are owned by the same group of people that stand to gain when america makes bad choices. the same media that leads you to believe there are only two choices, dem and rep.

[TFG]

no the corporate media is in reference to the group of media, written and televised, that are owned by the same group of people that stand to gain when america makes bad choices. the same media that leads you to believe there are only two choices, dem and rep.


Yes, indeed, because the "same group" isn't American. They are ISRAELI.

Now, it isn't that hard, and the slime of "anti-semite" doesn't hurt at all once you realize the treason it is being used to hide.

The ZIONIST elements of the "US media," specifically RUPERT MURDOCH's Fox everything (especially the distinctly treasonous show "24"), the NYT, the WaPo, the WSJ, CBS, and others are either directly owned or mostly owned by Zionists.

[stevieray]

so, this is essentially an anti-semetic thread?

[TFG]

so, this is essentially an anti-semetic thread?



Not until your treasonous white n-word rear showed up...

[stevieray]

...expound, please.

[HonestChieffan]

Jooose own media. tsk tsk

[TFG]

...expound, please.



Those who try to hide the Treason that was Iraq, as well as the "Axis of Evil" sellout of our deployment in Afghanistan, behind the "anti semite" card are themselves trying to make the truth "anti-semitic." Such individuals are treasonous white n-words, parrots of the Zionist FIXED NOISE channel, and W butt buddies.

Tell us, oh wise stevieray, why did we invade Iraq, since you really supported doing so...

[TFG]

Jooose own media. tsk tsk


That does not excuse your support for treason and covering up treason. The excuse that you were too dumb to know anything and just parroted lies doesn't cut it. Rather, a rope around your neck does...

[morphius]

Did anyone ever really expect there be another out come after dicking around with Saddam for over a decade? How many times did he break the rules of his surrender from the first gulf war? How many people were stupid enough not believe that if we had left that he wasn't going to start his WMD up all over again? How many countries did he try to bribe for protection? How much money did he give in support to orginizations that were terrorist orginizations not named al queada, that also had it out for the US?

Of course the whole imperalist line is laughable at best, but mostly just sad.

[TFG]

Did anyone ever really expect there be another out come after dicking around with Saddam for over a decade? How many times did he break the rules of his surrender from the first gulf war? How many people were stupid enough not believe that if we had left that he wasn't going to start his WMD up all over again? How many countries did he try to bribe for protection? How much money did he give in support to orginizations that were terrorist orginizations not named al queada, that also had it out for the US?

Of course the whole imperalist line is laughable at best, but mostly just sad.


That's the current list of Hannity's FIXED NOISE right now for the States United to Serve Israel.


Saddam's surrender in the First Gulf War was with the United Nations, not the United States. We had 120 countries allied with us in the Desert Storm, and almost all of them not only didn't participate in Iraqi Freedom, but publicly opposed it for the obvious third grade truth explained in the topic starting post. That didn't concern your treasonous birdbrain. Neither did the fact that the Niger documents were forged. In 2003, you were sure he had WMDs and that he was training AQ in chem. Today, you show precisely no outrage at all on those lies you parroted as your treasonous white n-word servitude to Israel.

Saddam in 2003 was a UN problem, not a US problem. Indeed, he was a very toothless UN problem, cowering in fear that Iran would invade Iraq.


If your standard for using the US military is "UN violations," then you either support a US invasion of the world leader in UN violations, or you would be a treasonous white n-word hypocrite. Who is the world leader in UN violations? Why, Israel, by a wide margin, as Israel has been violating UN mandates since the late 1960s and hasn't stopped.

Do you, morphius, want the US to invade Israel?



Whether or not Saddam was or was not starting his WMD program was a UN responsibility. The UN told us Saddam was not. The UN was right. Hannity, Kristol, Cheney, Tenet and everyone else who slimed Valerie Plame lied about that. Do you have any outrage that those individuals lied to you about Saddam's WMD program? As a treasonous white n-word dedicated to serving Israel, you do not.




As for Saddam's "participation in terror," Saddam publicly gave money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. The intent of such money was, as you put it, to BUY PROTECTION and COVER for the FACT that Saddam and especially his kids WERE NOT ISLAMIC and FEARED RADICALS LIKE AQ WHO WERE.


Israel is not the US. Funding and aiding terror against Israel is not the problem of the US. The US does not exist to serve Israel. To claim that Saddam's funding of the families of Palestinian suicide bombers is grounds for a US invasion of Iraq is to be a treasonous white n-word with his beak up Rupert Murdoch's butt. Every one of the Desert Storm alliance who opposed Iraqi Freedom has infinitely more intelligence, more integrity, and more patriotism to the United States than you, traitor. If you want to waste Islamic people who had nothing to do with 911, move to Israel and sign up...

[morphius]

That's the current list of Hannity's FIXED NOISE right now for the States United to Serve Israel.


Saddam's surrender in the First Gulf War was with the United Nations, not the United States. We had 120 countries allied with us in the Desert Storm, and almost all of them not only didn't participate in Iraqi Freedom, but publicly opposed it for the obvious third grade truth explained in the topic starting post. That didn't concern your treasonous birdbrain. Neither did the fact that the Niger documents were forged. In 2003, you were sure he had WMDs and that he was training AQ in chem. Today, you show precisely no outrage at all on those lies you parroted as your treasonous white n-word servitude to Israel.

Saddam in 2003 was a UN problem, not a US problem. Indeed, he was a very toothless UN problem, cowering in fear that Iran would invade Iraq.


If your standard for using the US military is "UN violations," then you either support a US invasion of the world leader in UN violations, or you would be a treasonous white n-word hypocrite. Who is the world leader in UN violations? Why, Israel, by a wide margin, as Israel has been violating UN mandates since the late 1960s and hasn't stopped.

Do you, morphius, want the US to invade Israel?



Whether or not Saddam was or was not starting his WMD program was a UN responsibility. The UN told us Saddam was not. The UN was right. Hannity, Kristol, Cheney, Tenet and everyone else who slimed Valerie Plame lied about that. Do you have any outrage that those individuals lied to you about Saddam's WMD program? As a treasonous white n-word dedicated to serving Israel, you do not.




As for Saddam's "participation in terror," Saddam publicly gave money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. The intent of such money was, as you put it, to BUY PROTECTION and COVER for the FACT that Saddam and especially his kids WERE NOT ISLAMIC and FEARED RADICALS LIKE AQ WHO WERE.


Israel is not the US. Funding and aiding terror against Israel is not the problem of the US. The US does not exist to serve Israel. To claim that Saddam's funding of the families of Palestinian suicide bombers is grounds for a US invasion of Iraq is to be a treasonous white n-word with his beak up Rupert Murdoch's butt. Every one of the Desert Storm alliance who opposed Iraqi Freedom has infinitely more intelligence, more integrity, and more patriotism to the United States than you, traitor. If you want to waste Islamic people who had nothing to do with 911, move to Israel and sign up...

Sorry you don't really offer anything but a lot vile spewing of random information that only, by what seem a random bit of luck, even comes close to answering anything I said. And even some of that is truly weak speculation. You can also get off your big media bs with me anytime, I've considered them tainted for decades.

[TFG]

Sorry you don't really offer anything but a lot vile spewing of random information that only, by what seem a random bit of luck, even comes close to answering anything I said. And even some of that is truly weak speculation. You can also get off your big media bs with me anytime, I've considered them tainted for decades.



Translation: I don't care that we were lied to, I don't care if US troops died for nothing in the US national interest, I don't know what the UN is nor do I care. Rather, I am just a sub 30 IQ bigot who hates everyone Islamic and I do not care whether they had a part in 911 or they were at war on 911 with those responsible for 911, I just want all dead using US troops and US taxdollars.



You are nothing but a treasonous white n-word parrot of the Zionist FIXED NOISE channel and are probably way too dumb to realize FIXED is Zionist.

You may even believe supporting the invasion of Iraq was "conservative" too...

[Iowanian]

as 4000 US heroes in uniform were killed and 30000 maimed all for intentional lies so that the treasonous white n-word President Iowanian supported could raise cash and get favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby chock full of Bible Burning pro gay pro abortion left wingers...

Iowanian's brother is currently doing his 2nd tour in Iraq as this message is typed...this one after he'd been out of Active duty for 2 years and subject to an Inactive Ready Reserve recall that yanked him away from his life and new business.


You go fuck yourself you aching cunt.

If you use the N-word crap again, you'll be the first person I've personally made a point to get banned.

[listopencil]

Could this be memyselfI's husband finally logging on to Chiefs Planet?

[TFG]

Iowanian's brother is currently doing his 2nd tour in Iraq as this message is typed...this one after he'd been out of Active duty for 2 years and subject to an Inactive Ready Reserve recall that yanked him away from his life and new business.


You go **** yourself you aching ****.

If you use the N-word crap again, you'll be the first person I've personally made a point to get banned.



What is truly sick here is that you seem happy that your brother was deployed for


1. intentional lies
2. nothing in the US national interest
3. no AQ or 911 connection

and none of that bothers you at all. Your brother is deployed and fighting against Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911 so that W could raise cash and get favorable media coverage from a foreign lobby while he made OBL "not a priority" and sold out the Afghan deployment with the Axis of Evil comment. Indeed, if you had the slightest clue about Iraq, which your treasonous white n-word FIXED NOISE BIRDBRAIN does not, you would notice that the majority of Iraqis are SHIA and hence PRO IRAN. Making Iran part of the "Axis of Evil" made a lot of Iraqi SHIAS angry at the US.


Nope, your brother was deployed so that treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist George W Bush could get re-elected by selling out the US military to the cause of a Greater Israel. You were told nothing but 100% pure intentional lies as to why. And your treasonous white n-word BEAK is still up JEW SUPREMACIST Rupert Murdoch's butt asking for more and more lies about why, given that every lie you believed in 2003 as to WHY is now outed as a lie.


You are not a patriot of the United States. You are a despicable treasonous sellout invalid who serves Israel.

[Iowanian]

You're a nutjob, a racist and an gaping asshole. You're the Burmuda Triangle of dumbass. Just when I've thought you've reached the nexus, you guzzle a redbull and keep digging.



It's asspipe's like you who strap on vests full of nails and ball bearings and walk into streets full of women and children. It's inbred fornicators of young boys like you who used the same reasoning you're bitching about to crash planes into buildings on 9-11.

I hope the bomb in your basement goes off when you're packing it. preferably in your own ass.

[TFG]

You're a nutjob, a racist and an gaping asshole. You're the Burmuda Triangle of dumbass. Just when I've thought you've reached the nexus, you guzzle a redbull and keep digging.



It's asspipe's like you who strap on vests full of nails and ball bearings and walk into streets full of women and children. It's inbred fornicators of young boys like you who used the same reasoning you're bitching about to crash planes into buildings on 9-11.

I hope the bomb in your basement goes off when you're packing it. preferably in your own ass.




There are consequences of being a FIXED NOISE PARROT and cheering TREASON. One of them is that, when told the truth, the treasonous white n-word gives a response like this one above...



Indeed, this particular treasonous white n-word servant of Israel still has not figured out that W made those who did the 911 "not a priority," sent way too small a force (7k) to Afghan initially, and then flipped off those who were at war with those responsible for 911 on 911, making our deployment in Afghan less safe and much more difficult.

If you are cheering for the survival of Osama Bin Laden, you love W Bush. But, then, the FIXED NOISE channel isn't going to explain that to your treasonous white n-word birdbrain...

[Iowanian]

And you're the consequence of ovulating while working the late shift at the donkey show.

[TFG]

And you're the consequence of ovulating while working the late shift at the donkey show.





Indeed, as a reflexive treasonous white n-word, this particular invalid seems to think I am a Democrat.

LOL!!!

Was W a "conservative?" What is "conservative?"

I am always curious as to just how ridiculously misinformed W's supporters truly are... and who provided the misinfo, Rupert or the Zionist funded "Christian" pastor...

[Iowanian]

Please stick your head into a full septic tank and drink liberally.

[TFG]

Indeed, likely a traitor "man of the cloth."

The biggest traitor in the United States today is Pastor John Hagee. While The CHOSEN got Iscariot for a few pieces of silver, Hagee has been much more expensive, but "worth it."

The notion that Christians won't go to Heaven unless "the Jews" occupy all of ancient Canaan has been a "godsend" to the cause of getting the US to use the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies who had nothing to do with 911. Hagee is relentless in the pursuit of pushing that BS on the "Christian faithful," who are apparently

TOO STUPID


to ask whether or not that means no Christian went to Heaven from the time the Romans tossed the Jews out of the Holy Land shortly after crucifying Jesus of Nazareth until 1948.



"HE told me, on your death bed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going for me" - Iowanian, after a sermon by his Zionist funded "Christian" pastor...

[TFG]

To a treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist W supporter with a sub 30 IQ, "conservative" means Bible Thumping. Issues like spending and socializing senior drugs are irrelevant. Just being for "Faith Based" pork, against abortion and gays, and shouting down anyone who understands the Middle East - that's now "conservative."

The notion that CONSERVATIVE FOREIGN POLICY is NON-INTERVENTIONALIST and even ISOLATIONIST uses way too many big words for treasonous white n-words to comprehend.

The truth, of course, is that Iraq was THE MOST LIBERAL ACT OF US FOREIGN POLICY IN US HISTORY, a complete re-write of why we deploy our forces (no act of war, no threat, nation building, social engineering, a "pre-emptive" strike based on 100% pure lies). The "conservative" response to 911 should have been to find and wipe out those responsible for 911, nothing more, but W was not conservative about anything. Indeed, this is why so many genuine LIBERALS supported Iraq (Feinstein, Hillary, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, Judy Miller, Dennis Miller) and so many real conservatives opposed it (Novak, Hagel, Buchanan, Schwarzkopf, Scowcroft, Bush 41, Bob Barr).


But don't let facts interfere with your pursuit of servitude to the cause of a Greater Israel...

[SHTSPRAYER]

To a treasonous white n-word Bible Thumping Socialist W supporter with a sub 30 IQ, "conservative" means Bible Thumping. Issues like spending and socializing senior drugs are irrelevant. Just being for "Faith Based" pork, against abortion and gays, and shouting down anyone who understands the Middle East - that's now "conservative."

...

Wait a second. I thought you Stormfront types believe that the Jews who control the media are the agitators behind gay rights and abortion on demand, that it's a Jewish plot?

I'm also curious to hear your "explanation" as to how all the "bible thumpers" are "treasonous".

One more---

Define "conservative".

This should be good.

LMAO

[stevieray]

TFG is a dupe account.

[Iowanian]

And in need of being banned, along with the original account if true.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Dupe? Of who(m)?