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Mr. Arrowhead
09-04-2009, 02:27 PM
HOORAYY!!!!!

http://twitter.com/JoshLooney

Jed Collins, Londen Fryar, Corey Smith, Herb Taylor, Tavares Washington, Travis Daniels, Eric Ghiaciuc Damion McIntosh released today

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Sweet mother of christ. This is beautiful.

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Damn.

Herb Taylor, gone.

He'll catch on somewhere at guard or as a backup LT.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Todd Fucking Haley dont mess around

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Taylor, huh?

Interesting.

Delano
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
HERB TAYLOR!? OH NOES !! /SNR

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:28 PM
Dunno about Herb though...

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:29 PM
[/URL] [URL="http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players"]Chiefs Release Eight Players (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/)

Sep 04, 2009, 3:26:08 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Friday that the club has released eight players: FB Jed Collins, CB Travis Daniels, CB Londen Fryar, C Eric Ghiaciuc, T Damion McIntosh, LB Corey Smith, T Herb Taylor and G Tavares Washington.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/F3FF7E820E0B4A438CEF53E27021556F.GIF?0.7741774760190068

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:29 PM
I thought Herb Taylor was a bright star last year? Wasn't he a valueable backup at almost every O-line position? What happened to him this year?

ziggysocki
09-04-2009, 02:29 PM
Yup... I just got the twitter...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 02:30 PM
I can't make jokes about Sackintosh no mo?

Ah well. Now we will be bitching about Ndukwe. His pass blocking sucks.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:30 PM
McIntsuck got what he wanted.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:31 PM
So, if Herb Taylor AND McIntosh are both gone, who is the back up LT? Does that make Richardson the starting RT and Ndukwe the backukp RT? Ndukwe doesn't look ready to be the starting RT yet. Maybe Haley / Pioli know something that we don't? John Runyon? Any other OT's available via FA or trade?

Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 02:31 PM
This most certainly means there are people out there that they plan on picking up for the O-Line.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Holy Shit.

Who the fuck is going to play on our OLine?

We will definitely be bringing in some other guys.

The Bad Guy
09-04-2009, 02:32 PM
There is no way the Chiefs don't bring in a RT this weekend. Levin Jones, someone.

This is a glorious day. That bastard is gone.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Someone needs to REPOST this thread. I don't like the thread title at all. It sucks.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-04-2009, 02:32 PM
Im guessing Richardson is the back up LT, and they are gonna be looking at the waiver wire for their starting RT

Halfcan
09-04-2009, 02:32 PM
no surprise Sackintosh was canned-he was horrific last night.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:32 PM
So, if Herb Taylor AND McIntosh are both gone, who is the back up LT? Does that make Richardson the starting RT and Ndukwe the backukp RT? Ndukwe doesn't look ready to be the starting RT yet. Maybe Haley / Pioli know something that we don't? John Runyon? Any other OT's available via FA or trade?

Not really.

Sackintosh sucks and Taylor is very overrated by fans and the media.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:33 PM
There is no way the Chiefs don't bring in a RT this weekend. Levin Jones, someone.

This is a glorious day. That bastard is gone. There you go! I knew there was another OT name floating around out there. I just couldn't remember who it was.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:33 PM
Someone needs to REPOST this thread. I don't like the thread title at all. It sucks.

I'm sure you will as soon as you get a text from ESPN about it.

rockymtnchief
09-04-2009, 02:33 PM
Good. I'm tired of watching Chicken Legs try and play tackle.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Even if Haley / Pioli bring in a vet RT, who will be the back up LT? Richardson and Ndukwe have both worked at RT and neither are ready to play or even back up at LT.

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Maybe Haley / Pioli know something that we don't? Not a chance.

Deberg_1990
09-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Herb Taylor...

one more brilliant Herm draft pick down. ROFL

gblowfish
09-04-2009, 02:35 PM
Is Sackintosh still going to be at KFC on Sept 17th?
I'm sure he'll be elbow deep into multiple buckets of original and crispy.
No reason to train anymore, nope.

Chomp.
Chomp.

seclark
09-04-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm sure you will as soon as you get a text from ESPN about it.

ROFL

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 02:35 PM
So, if Herb Taylor AND McIntosh are both gone, who is the back up LT? Does that make Richardson the starting RT and Ndukwe the backukp RT? Ndukwe doesn't look ready to be the starting RT yet. Maybe Haley / Pioli know something that we don't? John Runyon? Any other OT's available via FA or trade?

I was wondering the same thing. Seems scary to me. I thought Taylor was a solid backup LT.

I trust that Haley knows what he's doing, though, especially on offense. Just really surprised.

Delano
09-04-2009, 02:35 PM
Current depth chart at offensive line:

<TABLE summary="Kansas City Chiefs depth chart. Offense."><TBODY><TR><TH>LT</TH><TD>76 Branden Albert (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/branden_albert/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>LG</TH><TD>54 Brian Waters (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brian_waters/)</TD><TD>74 Wade Smith (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/wade_smith/)</TD><TD class=rookie>66 Darryl Harris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/darryl_harris/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>C</TH><TD>64 Rudy Niswanger (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/rudy_niswanger/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RG</TH><TD>79 Mike Goff (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/mike_goff/)</TD><TD class=rookie>61 Colin Brown (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/colin_brown/)</TD><TD>62 Andy Alleman (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/andy_alleman/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RT</TH><TD>67 Barry Richardson (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/barry_richardson/)</TD><TD>60 Ikechuku Ndukwe (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ikechuku_ndukwe/)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

*PUKE SMILEY*

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Chiefs Release Eight Players (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players)

Sep 04, 2009, 3:26:08 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Friday that the club has released eight players: FB Jed Collins, CB Travis Daniels, CB Londen Fryar, C Eric Ghiaciuc, T Damion McIntosh, LB Corey Smith, T Herb Taylor and G Tavares Washington.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images/F3FF7E820E0B4A438CEF53E27021556F.GIF?0.7741774760190068

Demonpenz
09-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Turley's bulked up again!

the Talking Can
09-04-2009, 02:36 PM
awesome

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:36 PM
Someone needs to REPOST this thread. I don't like the thread title at all. It sucks.
Agreed, done.

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2009, 02:37 PM
I guess the thread that's blowing up right now with 30+ replies in 2 minutes wasn't good enough?

the Talking Can
09-04-2009, 02:37 PM
McIntsuck got what he wanted.

i agree....it looked like he was barely trying....goodbye you fucking skulker...

Mr. Flopnuts
09-04-2009, 02:37 PM
I guess the thread that's blowing up right now with 30+ replies in 2 minutes wasn't good enough?

It can't be at the very top. It has to be halfway down the first page for anyone to notice.

Stewie
09-04-2009, 02:37 PM
Could you pay attention please?! Jesus!

shitgoose
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Well, bye. To bad Fagpen isn't on the list

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm making another thread on this subject right now.

People must know.

crazycoffey
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
bye bye McIntosh, not sad to see you go. Herb? well - that tells us Herms evaluation compared to Pioli/Haley.... Thought he had some future....

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
He did this on purpose because John Wayne didn't like the title and asked for a repost.

Weird.

keg in kc
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Well, bye. To bad pillowbiterpen isn't on the listThere's still time to unload pickpen.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
They have to release 22 players, right? They were at 75 and need to get down to 53, right? So, another 14 players still need to go.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm making another thread on this subject right now.

People must know.

Do it. I don't like this title.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:38 PM
Again.

Fuck, no need to embarrass these players by releasing them a second time.

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2009, 02:39 PM
He did this on purpose because John Wayne didn't like the title and asked for a repost.

Weird.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:39 PM
They have to release 22 players, right? They were at 75 and need to get down to 53, right? So, another 14 players still need to go.

RIGHT!!

Delano
09-04-2009, 02:39 PM
Do it. I don't like this title.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

You'll start a change reaction!

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:40 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

My thoughts exactly.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Again.

Fuck, no need to embarrass these players by releasing them a second time.

The <strike>first</strike> second cut is the deepest.

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Demonpenz
09-04-2009, 02:40 PM
I want to hire 3 doors down to play " If i can be like that" on repeat.... and follow mcintosh as he is getting his shit together

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Current depth chart at offensive line:

<TABLE summary="Kansas City Chiefs depth chart. Offense."><TBODY><TR><TH>LT</TH><TD>76 Branden Albert (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/branden_albert/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>LG</TH><TD>54 Brian Waters (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brian_waters/)</TD><TD>74 Wade Smith (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/wade_smith/)</TD><TD class=rookie>66 Darryl Harris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/darryl_harris/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>C</TH><TD>64 Rudy Niswanger (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/rudy_niswanger/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RG</TH><TD>79 Mike Goff (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/mike_goff/)</TD><TD class=rookie>61 Colin Brown (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/colin_brown/)</TD><TD>62 Andy Alleman (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/andy_alleman/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RT</TH><TD>67 Barry Richardson (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/barry_richardson/)</TD><TD>60 Ikechuku Ndukwe (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ikechuku_ndukwe/)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

*PUKE SMILEY*

I hope they keep Colin Brown on the PS. Darryl Harris who?

Frosty
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
HERB TAYLOR!? OH NOES !! /SNR

Hah - SNR jumped me when I predicted Taylor was going to be cut. :D

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
I didn't see this specific thread title on the front page...

Apparently a tackle or something was released.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
I hope they keep Colin Brown on the PS. Darryl Harris who?

Yeah, that Darryl Harris.

Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
They have to release 22 players, right? They were at 75 and need to get down to 53, right? So, another 14 players still need to go.

I bet they cut 20 more and bring in at least 6. As brutal as the first quarter of the schedule is we don't really hurt ourselves by starting guys who haven't been in camp. By the week 5, the new guys should be up to speed and the team should start showing improvement.

CaliforniaChief
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
They have to release 22 players, right? They were at 75 and need to get down to 53, right? So, another 14 players still need to go.

They'll release more than that to make room for the new people they'll inevitably bring in. There shall be bloodshed. Ray Farmer's going to have to take numbers for the next 24 hours.

BigMeatballDave
09-04-2009, 02:41 PM
THIS IS BRAND NEW INFORMATION!!1!

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2009, 02:42 PM
WE LANDED ON THE MOON?!?!?!?

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:42 PM
THIS IS BRAND NEW INFORMATION!!1!

Cool. You're welcome.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:42 PM
Sorry, no link. Just got a text from ESPN.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:43 PM
I guess the thread that's blowing up right now with 30+ replies in 2 minutes wasn't good enough?

This thread is MUCH better. :thumb:

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:43 PM
WE LANDED ON THE MOON?!?!?!?

Sound studio, dude.

keg in kc
09-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Now we need a DeezNuts reports that 810 is reporting that someone on 610 read on kcchiefs.com that someone was released.

Then tomorrow about this time, once the Star catches up, we can add another thread.

WPI will be along shortly to tell us all it's just a smokescreen for a mammoth trade.

OnTheWarpath58
09-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Sound studio, dude.

LMAO

aturnis
09-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Chiefs | Eight released from team

Adam Teicher, of The Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs OT Damion McIntosh, OL Herb Taylor, OL Eric Ghiaciuc, OT Tavares Washington, FB Jed Collins, LB Corey Smith, CB Travis Daniels and CB Londen Fryar have been released from the team.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:44 PM
WPI will be along shortly to tell us all it's just a smokescreen.

And Nick knew weeks ago because he's now reporting from his couch.

aturnis
09-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Only surprise is Herb Taylor. Can't believe he got cut. Huh.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:44 PM
I feel more comfortable in this thread.

John_Wayne
09-04-2009, 02:44 PM
This thread sucks too, but not as much as the other one.

Delano
09-04-2009, 02:45 PM
Follow his response to the release on his twitter at:

www.twitter.com/Fryar34 (http://www.twitter.com/Fryar34)

stevieray
09-04-2009, 02:45 PM
eight isn't enough

aturnis
09-04-2009, 02:45 PM
On the other hand, Damion MacIntosh is gone!PBJPBJPBJPBJ

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:45 PM
So, we need to cut 22, right? Because we had 75 and need to get to 53, right?

CoMoChief
09-04-2009, 02:46 PM
WTF Herb Taylor? Who the fuck is going to back us up at LT?

aturnis
09-04-2009, 02:46 PM
Wrong.

keg in kc
09-04-2009, 02:47 PM
Sound studio, dude.Alternative 3 is real.

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:47 PM
Dale Jr. is my favorite driver too.

Pablo
09-04-2009, 02:48 PM
The relevant thread naturally sinks to the middle where everyone might notice it.

Back to the top!

Halfcan
09-04-2009, 02:49 PM
8nt that sumtin

Stinger
09-04-2009, 02:49 PM
Well Damion this will be the last time to tell you to

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/fc2s5f.gif

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 02:50 PM
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DeepSouth
09-04-2009, 02:51 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Friday that the club has released eight players: FB Jed Collins, CB Travis Daniels, CB Londen Fryar, C Eric Ghiaciuc, T Damion McIntosh, LB Corey Smith, T Herb Taylor and G Tavares Washington.

keg in kc
09-04-2009, 02:51 PM
Ray Farmer's going to have to take numbers for the next 24 hours.I'm about to take a number. That number is two.

KCChiefsMan
09-04-2009, 02:52 PM
thank goodness, no sense in overpaying that POS any longer.

CaliforniaChief
09-04-2009, 02:52 PM
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GoChiefs I share your sentiment but that was the gheyest version of an already ghey song that I've ever heard.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 02:52 PM
Do Thigpen now! Do it! I DOUBLE-DOG DARE YOU, PIOLI!

DaFace
09-04-2009, 02:53 PM
Wow. I really didn't think we could let him go. I mean, who the hell else have we got?

I'm hoping H&P are cookin' something.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 02:54 PM
When an OT is cut, does a True Fan make a sound?

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:55 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Friday that the club has released eight players: FB Jed Collins, CB Travis Daniels, CB Londen Fryar, C Eric Ghiaciuc, T Damion McIntosh, LB Corey Smith, T Herb Taylor and G Tavares Washington.

Thanks for the link. I can't link ESPN texts.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 02:55 PM
Jed's dead baby. Jed's dead.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 02:56 PM
Now, Mike Cox has no competition from anyone else.

cdcox
09-04-2009, 02:56 PM
I just read on Haley's bit torrent that the Chiefs are going to go with an unbalanced line.

googlegoogle
09-04-2009, 02:57 PM
new team.

Tiger's Fan
09-04-2009, 02:57 PM
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I thought you said McIntosh would be starting at RT game one.

heh

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 02:57 PM
Now, Mike Cox has no competition from anyone else.
I wouldn't be surprised to see another fullback brought in.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 02:58 PM
This team is going to suck lol

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 02:59 PM
Wait Thigpen wasn't released? WHAT THE FUCK

doomy3
09-04-2009, 03:00 PM
This team is going to suck lol

Because we just released a bunch of suckass players?

orange
09-04-2009, 03:01 PM
This most certainly means there are people out there that they plan on picking up for the O-Line.

Holy Shit.

Who the **** is going to play on our OLine?

We will definitely be bringing in some other guys.

http://sneezingcow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/offmainstreet-pb-c.jpg

doomy3
09-04-2009, 03:01 PM
Wait Thigpen wasn't released? WHAT THE ****

There's still at least 14 more to go.

Hopefully we can trade him for a bag of chips though.

DeezNutz
09-04-2009, 03:02 PM
There's still at least 14 more to go.

Hopefully we can trade him for a bag of chips though.

The team that offered the bag...ate it.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 03:02 PM
The team that offered the bag...ate it.

I'm still holding out hope for some weird reason.

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:04 PM
Alleman made Ghiaciuc expendable. Not sure why Taylor was released though.
He was great LT insurance. Not a good move by the Chiefs.

doomy3
09-04-2009, 03:06 PM
Alleman made Ghiaciuc expendable. Not sure why Taylor was released though.
He was great LT insurance. Not a good move by the Chiefs.

Oh come on. Calling him a "great" anything is ridiculous.

Raised On Riots
09-04-2009, 03:07 PM
Sweet mother of christ. This is beautiful.

ROFL

I couldn't have said it better.

HIT IT!

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Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 03:07 PM
Alleman made Ghiaciuc expendable. Not sure why Taylor was released though.
He was great LT insurance. Not a good move by the Chiefs.

I would say it's more about Wade Smith than Alleman. Smith played a lot of Center last night and didn't look too bad.

Raised On Riots
09-04-2009, 03:09 PM
I do feel bad for SNR though. Sorry brah.

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:10 PM
Oh come on. Calling him a "great" anything is ridiculous.

"Great"? No. But as a backup, he's fine. I don't understand this cut either. If Albert gets injured, we're fucked.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 03:12 PM
"Great"? No. But as a backup, he's fine. I don't understand this cut either. If Albert gets injured, we're fucked.
If Taylor can't play tackle then he isn't great/good or anything else even as a backup. I personally think Taylor belongs inside but if they aren't going to move him inside than they might as well cut him.

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:12 PM
I would say it's more about Wade Smith than Alleman. Smith played a lot of Center last night and didn't look too bad.

Smith's been saddled by injuries though.
Not sure how much insurance he would be.

orange
09-04-2009, 03:13 PM
Oh come on. Calling him a "great" anything is ridiculous.

He's been a great Avatar for SNR for many months.

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:13 PM
"Great"? No. But as a backup, he's fine. I don't understand this cut either. If Albert gets injured, we're fucked.

They must think they can make a LT out of Richardson. Fail.
I'd rather have Taylor. We know he can fill and play well.
Don't get this one at all... Taylor might've been the most game-ready reserve O-Lineman we have on the team.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 03:14 PM
We know he can fill and play well.
We do?

kaplin42
09-04-2009, 03:14 PM
Holy Shit.

Who the **** is going to play on our OLine?

We will definitely be bringing in some other guys.

Honestly, at this point, no one on the line is better than some of these guys. Mcintosh was barely even a speed bump, more like running through a web paper bag on the way to maiming what ever poor soul was behind center.

kstater
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
"Great"? No. But as a backup, he's fine. I don't understand this cut either. If Albert gets injured, we're fucked.


They're fucked if Albert goes down regardless of who's backing him up.

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
Just curious, because I haven't gotten live feeds of games. What position have they been playing Taylor in training camp and preseason? Was it right tackle?

nychief
09-04-2009, 03:15 PM
"They must think they can make a LT out of Richardson. Fail. "



Honestly, the "fail" response is fucking retarded.

KCtotheSB
09-04-2009, 03:16 PM
McIntosh is gone! Sweet mother of a sweaty penis!

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:16 PM
We do?

Yes we do. He did so just last year.

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:16 PM
"They must think they can make a LT out of Richardson. Fail. "



Honestly, the "fail" response is fucking retarded.

Is it? Have you seen any evidence that suggests he can make that transition?

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:16 PM
They're ****ed if Albert goes down regardless of who's backing him up.

Not entirely. Taylor is at least adequate. Albert was injured a few games last year and Taylor filled in admirably, for a backup.

If Albert went down with Taylor on the roster, we'd in trouble. If Albert goes down without Taylor on the roster, we're fucked.

nychief
09-04-2009, 03:18 PM
Not entirely. Taylor is at least adequate. Albert was injured a few games last year and Taylor filled in admirably, for a backup.

If Albert went down with Taylor on the roster, we'd in trouble. If Albert goes down without Taylor on the roster, we're ****ed.


Are you Taylor's agent? Herb Taylor is worthless.

Frosty
09-04-2009, 03:18 PM
Taylor looked okay occasionally last year in Herm's spread. He has looked like crap all preseason in Haley's convention offense.

Pestilence
09-04-2009, 03:21 PM
Now let's bring in a RT who can actually play. Runyan?

Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 03:22 PM
5 of the 11 players released so far have been offensive lineman - 45%

SenselessChiefsFan
09-04-2009, 03:24 PM
McIntsuck got what he wanted.

This.... worst offseason since he has been here.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 03:24 PM
Is it? Have you seen any evidence that suggests he can make that transition?

Actually, he is a left tackle. Started 40 games for Clemson.

The Chiefs moved him to right tackle and he's struggled.

In preseason, they had him at left tackle early and he looked very good and far more comfortable.

If anything, I think they kept Richardson to be the "swing" tackle because of his size and the fact that he has definitely progressed from last season.

Herb Taylor hasn't.

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:25 PM
Taylor looked okay occasionally last year in Herm's spread. He has looked like crap all preseason in Haley's convention offense.

He looked good last year in the preseason before the spread.

He's looked horrible and out of place at Right Tackle. But at the left tackle spot, he seemed to do a pretty good job.

Again, I'll trust Haley on this. It just seems strange. He's not a guy I'd want as a starter, but he seemed to be a good backup. And the Chiefs are very, very, very light on options right now. Basically, if Albert gets injured, they're going to have to switch Richardson to the other side, untrain his brain from playing right tackle, and ask him to play a position he hasn't played in 2 years and has never played on the NFL level.

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:26 PM
Actually, he is a left tackle. Started 40 games for Clemson.

The Chiefs moved him to right tackle and he's struggled.

In preseason, they had him at left tackle early and he looked very good and far more comfortable.

If anything, I think they kept Richardson to be the "swing" tackle because of his size and the fact that he has definitely progressed from last season.

Herb Taylor hasn't.

Has he? I haven't had a chance to follow. Has Taylor played LT this offseason?

If Richardson's not going to start, who are they going to start at RT right now?

AustinChief
09-04-2009, 03:26 PM
They're fucked if Albert goes down regardless of who's backing him up.

Not if they sign Tra Thomas to back him up... and while they are at it might as well throw Runyan in at RT.

Bwana
09-04-2009, 03:26 PM
Yes we do. He did so just last year.

Well if he is all that, he will be picked up by another team, likely make the pro bowl within a year or two and no doubt be a shoe in for the Hall of fame. :thumb:

Just Passin' By
09-04-2009, 03:27 PM
They have to release 22 players, right? They were at 75 and need to get down to 53, right? So, another 14 players still need to go.

Those 22 players will win 2 games...

Pestilence
09-04-2009, 03:27 PM
Current depth chart at offensive line:

<TABLE summary="Kansas City Chiefs depth chart. Offense."><TBODY><TR><TH>LT</TH><TD>76 Branden Albert (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/branden_albert/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>LG</TH><TD>54 Brian Waters (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brian_waters/)</TD><TD>74 Wade Smith (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/wade_smith/)</TD><TD class=rookie>66 Darryl Harris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/darryl_harris/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>C</TH><TD>64 Rudy Niswanger (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/rudy_niswanger/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RG</TH><TD>79 Mike Goff (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/mike_goff/)</TD><TD class=rookie>61 Colin Brown (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/colin_brown/)</TD><TD>62 Andy Alleman (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/andy_alleman/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RT</TH><TD>67 Barry Richardson (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/barry_richardson/)</TD><TD>60 Ikechuku Ndukwe (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ikechuku_ndukwe/)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

*PUKE SMILEY*

I wouldn't mind if it ended up looking something like this.

LT Branden Albert - Barry Richardson
LG Brian Waters - Darryl Harris
C Andy Alleman - Rudy Niswanger
RG Ikechuku Ndukwe - Colin Brown
RT Jon Runyan - Somebody else

HypnotizedMonkey
09-04-2009, 03:27 PM
You don't quit Herb... Herb quits you.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 03:28 PM
I wouldn't mind if it ended up looking something like this.

LT Branden Albert - Barry Richardson
LG Brian Waters - Darryl Harris
C Andy Alleman - Rudy Niswanger
RG Ikechuku Ndukwe - Colin Brown
RT Jon Runyan - Somebody else

THIS

After watching Alleman and Ndukwe, I hate Ndukwe at RT. I hate Rudy enough at C that Alleman should get a shot.

Frosty
09-04-2009, 03:29 PM
they're going to have to switch Richardson to the other side, untrain his brain from playing right tackle, and ask him to play a position he hasn't played in 2 years and has never played on the NFL level.

They've had Richardson exclusively at LT the last two preseason games. Dane says he played well there in the first game, too.

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:30 PM
They've had Richardson exclusively at LT the last two preseason games. Dane says he played well there in the first game, too.

Gotcha.

Sucks being outside of Kansas City. I haven't had any chance to watch any of these guys play.

Pestilence
09-04-2009, 03:30 PM
THIS

After watching Alleman and Ndukwe, I hate Ndukwe at RT. I hate Rudy enough at C that Alleman should get a shot.

If it was up to me.....Niswanger wouldn't make the fucking team. He's that gat damn bad.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 03:31 PM
Gotcha.

Sucks being outside of Kansas City. I haven't had any chance to watch any of these guys play.

NFL Network shows all of the preseason games.

Chief Faithful
09-04-2009, 03:31 PM
Not entirely. Taylor is at least adequate. Albert was injured a few games last year and Taylor filled in admirably, for a backup.

If Albert went down with Taylor on the roster, we'd in trouble. If Albert goes down without Taylor on the roster, we're ****ed.

I guess Haley wants more than adequate. Pioli must think can pick someone off the waivers that is better.

KCDC
09-04-2009, 03:31 PM
On the next 14 to go, look for:


Darling and Thomas on IR

Look for C. Brown or Alleman

Crabtree WR
Dacus LB
Daniels CB
Engram WR
Gales DT
Johnson WR
O'Connell TE
Price DB
Walters LB
Williams RB
Wright WR

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 03:31 PM
If it was up to me.....Niswanger wouldn't make the fucking team. He's that gat damn bad.

He's worse than Goff and ScIntosh.

If that's even possible.

Pestilence
09-04-2009, 03:34 PM
On the next 14 to go, look for:


Darling and Thomas on IR

Look for C. Brown or Alleman

Crabtree WR
Dacus LB
Daniels CB
Engram WR
Gales DT
Johnson WR
O'Connell TE
Price DB
Walters LB
Williams RB
Wright WR

Darling has already been put on IR. And they better not fucking cut C. Brown and keep Niswanger or Goff.

Pestilence
09-04-2009, 03:34 PM
When an OT is cut, does a True Fan make a sound?

LMAO

chiefzilla1501
09-04-2009, 03:35 PM
NFL Network shows all of the preseason games.

Yeah, in an apartment that doesn't allow satellite dishes and a city dominated by Time Warner Cable. Stuck between a rock and a hard place, unfortunately.

KCDC
09-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Darling has already been put on IR. And they better not ****ing cut C. Brown and keep Niswanger or Goff.

Ah, then probably add Lawrence WR, I think.

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:42 PM
Actually, he is a left tackle. Started 40 games for Clemson.

The Chiefs moved him to right tackle and he's struggled.

In preseason, they had him at left tackle early and he looked very good and far more comfortable.

If anything, I think they kept Richardson to be the "swing" tackle because of his size and the fact that he has definitely progressed from last season.

Herb Taylor hasn't.

Not that this is gospel, but the last regime didn't think he could play LT in the NFL. And if memory serves it was Richardson who got owned thrice in the last series in pass protection in Pre-Season Game 3.

LOCOChief
09-04-2009, 03:43 PM
Yup... I just got the twitter...

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/04/chiefs_release_eight_players/


Nice, link the twitter to the thread WTF? I gotta admit I clicked, it's been 5 here for about and hour and a half for me,and I've damb near gone full retard.

Red Beans
09-04-2009, 03:45 PM
I'm cracking a beer in celebration of the fact I don't have to see SackIntosh block for my team ever again...EVER!

Frazod
09-04-2009, 03:46 PM
I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing any of these guys suiting up on Sunday anytime soon.

Unless they're earning doubletime doing emergency road construction.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 03:48 PM
I imagine lawrence gets cut and PS'ed

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:51 PM
I imagine lawrence gets cut and PS'ed

The kid's raw, but you simply can't teach speed.
I think with a little work he'll be good to go.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 03:51 PM
Not that this is gospel, but the last regime didn't think he could play LT in the NFL. And if memory serves it was Richardson who got owned thrice in the last series in pass protection in Pre-Season Game 3.

The last regime had the worst offensive line in the NFL.

While this line again may be the worst in the NFL, it'll at least have a different set of cast members.

milkman
09-04-2009, 03:51 PM
Current depth chart at offensive line:

<TABLE summary="Kansas City Chiefs depth chart. Offense."><TBODY><TR><TH>LT</TH><TD>76 Branden Albert (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/branden_albert/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>LG</TH><TD>54 Brian Waters (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brian_waters/)</TD><TD>74 Wade Smith (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/wade_smith/)</TD><TD class=rookie>66 Darryl Harris (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/darryl_harris/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>C</TH><TD>64 Rudy Niswanger (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/rudy_niswanger/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RG</TH><TD>79 Mike Goff (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/mike_goff/)</TD><TD class=rookie>61 Colin Brown (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/colin_brown/)</TD><TD>62 Andy Alleman (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/andy_alleman/)</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TH>RT</TH><TD>67 Barry Richardson (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/barry_richardson/)</TD><TD>60 Ikechuku Ndukwe (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ikechuku_ndukwe/)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

*PUKE SMILEY*

I'm not the least bit surprised by that depth chart.

I've been saying since the Viking game that Richardson played much better than most think he did in that game, and that Damian McIntosh was only being given the chance to save his job with the start in the Seattle game (and by extension, last night's game).

milkman
09-04-2009, 03:53 PM
I hope they keep Colin Brown on the PS. Darryl Harris who?

You haven't been paying attention.

Brown and Harris have been the best guards for the Chiefs throughout this preseason.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Tough battle at CB going:

<table style="width: 784px; height: 162px;" class="item-list" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="items"><td>22</td> <td>Bates, Jackie (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/jackie_bates/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>180</td> <td>10/12/86</td> <td>R</td> <td>Hampton</td> <td>Sacramento, CA</td> <td>CFA-09</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>39</td> <td>Carr, Brandon (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brandon_carr/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>6-0</td> <td>207</td> <td>05/19/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Grand Valley State</td> <td>Flint, MI</td> <td>D5-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>30</td> <td>Colclough, Ricardo (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ricardo_colclough/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>194</td> <td>09/26/83</td> <td>6</td> <td>Tusculum</td> <td>Sumter, S.C.</td> <td>FA-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>24</td> <td>Flowers, Brandon (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brandon_flowers/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>187</td> <td>02/18/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Virginia Tech</td> <td>Delray Beach, FL</td> <td>D2-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>31</td> <td>Leggett, Maurice (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/maurice_leggett/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>188</td> <td>10/02/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Valdosta State</td> <td>McKeesport, PA</td> <td>CFA-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>20</td> <td>Washington, Donald (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/donald_washington/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>197</td> <td>07/28/86</td> <td>R</td> <td>Ohio State</td> <td>Indianapolis, IN</td> <td>D4-09</td></tr></tbody></table>

Mecca
09-04-2009, 03:56 PM
I think it's pretty obvious 4 of those CB's are on the roster without a question.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 03:57 PM
That one's easy. Bates is gone, they keep the rest.

LOCOChief
09-04-2009, 03:57 PM
I'm not the least bit surprised by that depth chart.

I've been saying since the Viking game that Richardson played much better than most think he did in that game, and that Damian McIntosh was only being given the chance to save his job with the start in the Seattle game (and by extension, last night's game).

So you're assuming that they'll keep Richardson at RT? I agree, from everything I've seen they guy should be given the opportunity.

Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 03:58 PM
Little known fact of the day: Ricky Price is Steven Jackson's first cousin.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 03:58 PM
Colclough totally sucks though...

Micjones
09-04-2009, 03:58 PM
Tough battle at CB going:

<table style="width: 784px; height: 162px;" class="item-list" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="items"><td>22</td> <td>Bates, Jackie (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/jackie_bates/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-10</td> <td>180</td> <td>10/12/86</td> <td>R</td> <td>Hampton</td> <td>Sacramento, CA</td> <td>CFA-09</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>39</td> <td>Carr, Brandon (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brandon_carr/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>6-0</td> <td>207</td> <td>05/19/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Grand Valley State</td> <td>Flint, MI</td> <td>D5-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>30</td> <td>Colclough, Ricardo (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/ricardo_colclough/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>194</td> <td>09/26/83</td> <td>6</td> <td>Tusculum</td> <td>Sumter, S.C.</td> <td>FA-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>24</td> <td>Flowers, Brandon (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/brandon_flowers/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-9</td> <td>187</td> <td>02/18/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Virginia Tech</td> <td>Delray Beach, FL</td> <td>D2-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>31</td> <td>Leggett, Maurice (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/maurice_leggett/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>5-11</td> <td>188</td> <td>10/02/86</td> <td>2</td> <td>Valdosta State</td> <td>McKeesport, PA</td> <td>CFA-08</td> </tr> <tr class="items"> <td>20</td> <td>Washington, Donald (http://www.kcchiefs.com/player/donald_washington/)</td> <td>CB</td> <td>6-1</td> <td>197</td> <td>07/28/86</td> <td>R</td> <td>Ohio State</td> <td>Indianapolis, IN</td> <td>D4-09</td></tr></tbody></table>

Not at all. Scratch Bates and there are your 5 Corners.

milkman
09-04-2009, 03:59 PM
He looked good last year in the preseason before the spread.

He's looked horrible and out of place at Right Tackle. But at the left tackle spot, he seemed to do a pretty good job.

Again, I'll trust Haley on this. It just seems strange. He's not a guy I'd want as a starter, but he seemed to be a good backup. And the Chiefs are very, very, very light on options right now. Basically, if Albert gets injured, they're going to have to switch Richardson to the other side, untrain his brain from playing right tackle, and ask him to play a position he hasn't played in 2 years and has never played on the NFL level.

Richardson has played LT in this preseason.

Frosty
09-04-2009, 04:00 PM
Who's out if they only keep 4 safties?

bevischief
09-04-2009, 04:00 PM
Jed Collins, Londen Fryar, Corey Smith, Herb Taylor, Tavares Washington, Travis Daniels, Eric Ghiaciuc Damion McIntosh releasing these players how does this affect the salary cap minimum?

Micjones
09-04-2009, 04:01 PM
Who's out if they only keep 4 safties?

Pollard, Page, Brown, McGraw oughta be your 4 Safeties.

Bill Lundberg
09-04-2009, 04:01 PM
Who's out if they only keep 4 safties?

Ricky Price and Morgan

Marcellus
09-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Pollard, Page, Brown, McGraw oughta be your 4 Safeties.

No Morgan? I didn't like the kid before last night but he had a hell of a game.

Frosty
09-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Pollard, Page, Brown, McGraw oughta be your 4 Safeties.

Morgan has looked like he is really coming along the last two games. Why keep two fossils like McGraw and/or Brown? Brown hasn't done anything all preseason.

milkman
09-04-2009, 04:03 PM
He's worse than Goff and ScIntosh.

If that's even possible.

I disagree.

When Allenman replaced Goff at RG in the Seattle game, Niswanger's level of suckage wasn't as low as it was when he had Goff next to him.

As much as I hated McIntosh for his absolute suckage, Goff was absolutely the worst on that line.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:04 PM
Pollard, Page, Brown, McGraw oughta be your 4 Safeties.

Are you fucking kidding me?

After the way Morgan has played?

McGraw can go to hell!

milkman
09-04-2009, 04:05 PM
I'm cracking a beer in celebration of the fact I don't have to see SackIntosh block for my team ever again...EVER!

When did you actually ever see him block?

googlegoogle
09-04-2009, 04:06 PM
Pollard, Page, Brown, McGraw oughta be your 4 Safeties.

Morgan isn't being released.

BWillie
09-04-2009, 04:06 PM
Morgan has looked like he is really coming along the last two games. Why keep two fossils like McGraw and/or Brown? Brown hasn't done anything all preseason.

Brown has been fine - McGraw is the one that needs to go. Keep Morgan - at least he has a shot at getting better.

milkman
09-04-2009, 04:06 PM
So you're assuming that they'll keep Richardson at RT? I agree, from everything I've seen they guy should be given the opportunity.

I'm not assuming that, no.

However, I have been saying for two weeks that McIntosh would be cut before Richardson is.

Raised On Riots
09-04-2009, 04:10 PM
I think it's pretty obvious 4 of those CB's are on the roster without a question.

I'm not saying he'll be cut, but I don't believe Carr is the shizzle that some people think he is.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:11 PM
Broncos cut G Kory Lichtensteiger .... wonder if he fits in KC?

Raised On Riots
09-04-2009, 04:13 PM
Brown has been fine - McGraw is the one that needs to go. Keep Morgan - at least he has a shot at getting better.

Just clone Pollard three times; I wanna' watch GoChiefs head explode.:D

Saccopoo
09-04-2009, 04:14 PM
The last regime had the worst offensive line in the NFL.

While this line again may be the worst in the NFL, it'll at least have a different set of cast members.

I agree. The fact that they (Pioli & Co.) are actually doing something, something that obviously needed to be done is encouraging. Rome wasn't built in a day, and for a team that is devoid of so much talent there is a lot of building that needs to be done, but it's nice to see that the major deficiencies are being addressed.

There was nothing more depressing than Carl calling it a day the moment training camp broke and he gave the keys to Herm and just sitting pat all season long. It doesn't look like the new crew is going to do that - at least until you've got a playoff caliber team.

Mr. Krab
09-04-2009, 04:15 PM
That one's easy. Bates is gone, they keep the rest.You really think they will keep 5? I think Colclough might be gone as well.

-King-
09-04-2009, 04:18 PM
I've always wondered; Does Ray Farmer call these guys in individually or does he just have them line up and tell them all at once. Because calling in 23 people and having to tell each one of them that they're cut must be kind of difficult. I could understand doing that for the high profile player, but for the nobodies, is there really a point in meeting them individually?

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:19 PM
You really think they will keep 5? I think Colclough might be gone as well.

Why not? 4 for dime + backup....

Mecca
09-04-2009, 04:21 PM
If they cut Morgan with Brown and McGraw both making it, that would be extremely stupid.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Why not? 4 for dime + backup....

I think Cokely sucks. I can't imagine they'll keep him around.

BigChiefFan
09-04-2009, 04:31 PM
Out of the safeties, I think Mike Brown is the one on his way out.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 04:31 PM
If they cut Morgan with Brown and McGraw both making it, that would be extremely stupid.

I think McGraw over Brown just due to special teams.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:33 PM
Out of the safeties, I think Mike Brown is the one on his way out.

Based on what? Morgans all star game vs third stringers? Morgan sucks, he plays one good game (in which he should have gave up 1 touchdown) and people on this board think he's a good player.

wild1
09-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Why are people worried about Taylor? Is he popular for another reason besides that goofy photo of him wearing glasses?

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Brown has made the team haters accept it and love it. He's Pollards replacement in the lineup.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Brown has made the team haters accept it and love it. He's Pollards replacement in the lineup.

Actually at this point, if Pollard fails, I think they will put in Morgan.

But either way need a backup who can get injured and really fuck us over if a starter gets injured.

wild1
09-04-2009, 04:36 PM
How can you say Brown is a starter when he hasn't been seen all of camp?

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:37 PM
Actually at this point, if Pollard fails, I think they will put in Morgan.

But either way need a backup who can get injured and really **** us over if a starter gets injured.

Morgan got outran by Lendale White the guy sucks like the last 20 years of Carl Petersons draft picks.

wasi
09-04-2009, 04:37 PM
I should expect some grief over this but oh well..

Taylor, huh?

Interesting.

I bet your not the only one surprised.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=212573&highlight=Oline

Herb Taylor has WAY TOO MUCH VALUE to EVER be CUT.

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smith sucks ass. Did you even watch the Chiefs last year?

There's NO WAY they try to sneak either Brown or Harris through waivers.

Taylor has TRADE VALUE so if the Chiefs are looking to find a roster spot for someone else, he'll be traded, not released.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:39 PM
Morgan got outran by Lendale White the guy sucks like the last 20 years of Carl Petersons draft picks.

Shut up please.

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 04:39 PM
I should expect some grief over this but oh well..



I bet your not the only one surprised.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=212573&highlight=Oline

I guess he had no trade value.

What can I say?

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:39 PM
Shut up please.

I get it this is your next medicore player you have a mancrush on.

BigChiefFan
09-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Because Morgan has upside and Brown doesn't and they are neck and neck as far as skills, at this point. When it's even, you keep the young player with upside.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 04:40 PM
Morgan is not a finished product the other guys are...are we really going to cut young players with high upside cause some 30 year old scrub is slightly better right now?

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:40 PM
I get it this is your next medicore player you have a mancrush on.

Morgan has been far from mediocre this preseason.

I daresay he has played the best football of any safety on the roster.

wasi
09-04-2009, 04:42 PM
I guess he had no trade value.

What can I say?

Fair enough... although I was expecting a reply with CAPS and four character words only with some letters replaced by asterixes. :p

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Morgan has been far from mediocre this preseason.

I daresay he has played the best football of any safety on the roster.

Bullshit did he even play the first few games? Nobody talked about him at all until he played good aginst 3rd string scurbs on one of the shittiest teams in the league and now you all think the same guy who got out ran by lendale white will be a starter? Also GIF the play where the dumbass misplays the ball and luckily the Rams WR drops it otherwise it's a touchdown and we wouldn't be discussing this stupid conversation.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 04:45 PM
Bullshit did he even play the first few games? Nobody talked about him at all until he played good aginst 3rd string scurbs on one of the shittiest teams in the league and now you all think the same guy who got out ran by lendale white will be a starter?

Regardless of who he played against, he was making plays and playing consistent football.

He has done it two games in a row. Certainly he has looked better than Pollard. Page has been hurt although he had a nice game against the Vikings.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 04:46 PM
Nah man lets keep Mike Brown, nothing is more valuable than a guy who'll go on IR.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:50 PM
Nah man lets keep Mike Brown, nothing is more valuable than a guy who'll go on IR.

Yea lets get rid of a guy whos a good player when he plays and a leader and keep a guy who can't even keep up with Lendale White. You must like being ranked the 33rd defense.

Kyle DeLexus
09-04-2009, 04:51 PM
Bullshit did he even play the first few games? Nobody talked about him at all until he played good aginst 3rd string scurbs on one of the shittiest teams in the league and now you all think the same guy who got out ran by lendale white will be a starter? Also GIF the play where the dumbass misplays the ball and luckily the Rams WR drops it otherwise it's a touchdown and we wouldn't be discussing this stupid conversation.

Didn't Morgan miss the first 2 weeks of camp because of an injury? Ever think he was behind from missing practice and just recently got caught up and thats why he's starting to play well? Brown on the other hand has no excuse and hasn't shown much of anything IMO.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:52 PM
Brown has been consistant opposed to the other safeties. Say what you want but he is money aginst the run. I see Morgan is the new Thigpen on the board and when he sucks ya'll will be aginst him before you were for him.

Kyle DeLexus
09-04-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm actually for Mays/Berry, but think you keep the young project player over a vet who has had injury problems and most likely won't get a starting spot from Page/Pollard anyway.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:57 PM
Nah you keep the veteran this isn't a contest to see what team can have the youngest players. Herm thought Morgan was a good player thats all that really needs to be said. Also just cuz he played 1 good game aginst 3rd stringers doesn't mean shit. Kris Griffin anyone?

Mecca
09-04-2009, 04:58 PM
Morgan can't be Thigpen because he actually has talent and was a well thought of prospect coming into the draft.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 04:59 PM
Morgan can't be Thigpen because he actually has talent and was a well thought of prospect coming into the draft.

This sounds like the same thing Pollard people were saying. Except Pollard actually contributed to Special teams.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 05:00 PM
Nah you keep the veteran this isn't a contest to see what team can have the youngest players. Herm thought Morgan was a good player thats all that really needs to be said. Also just cuz he played 1 good game aginst 3rd stringers doesn't mean shit. Kris Griffin anyone?

Read...

2008 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:
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DaJuan Morgan, FS, North Carolina State
Behind Kenny Phillips of Miami, DaJuan Morgan will be the best safety on most draft boards. During his junior (and final) season at North Carolina State, Morgan led the team with 97 tackles, three interceptions and six pass break-ups. He is a great athlete and has plenty of speed and decent enough hands to compliment his above average coverage ability. He can do just about everything from the free safety position, but for now his value on special teams might be his greatest asset.

Morgan is still learning the position after starting just one year for the Wolfpack. His experience at wide receiver is not a bad thing, but he did just move to safety in 2005 and has plenty left to learn about the position. He tends to project better than he plays, but most of that can be blamed on inexperience. Once he learns the position a little more, his production should start living up to his Combine numbers. The All-ACC Second-Team selection plays with emotion and that has led to some problems in the past with his consistency. If he can play with a level head and spend a year or two fine tuning his technique, Morgan has the athletic tools to be the best safety of this class.

Morgan could slide into the second round if somebody falls in love with his athleticism and potential. At the very least they would be getting a great special teams player and a serviceable safety. And it is very feasible that they could get a whole lot more than that from Morgan.

4/11 Update: DaJuan Morgan continues to climb up most draft boards. On some boards he might even be a little bit ahead of Miami safety Kenny Phillips, but that might be stretching it a bit. Either way, Morgan is looking like a first day selection. The New York Giants are in dire need of a young safety and if Morgan makes it until the last pick in the second round, the Super Bowl Champions should be happy to have him.

You don't give up on players like this after 1 year. He's the complete opposite of Tamba Hali. Hali came out as a finished product, Morgan came out as an extremely raw player.

Kyle DeLexus
09-04-2009, 05:03 PM
Nah you keep the veteran this isn't a contest to see what team can have the youngest players. Herm thought Morgan was a good player thats all that really needs to be said. Also just cuz he played 1 good game aginst 3rd stringers doesn't mean shit. Kris Griffin anyone?And there's a reason Brown signed with a bottomfeeding team like KC...Morgan is still developing and has potential to get better, Brown is maxed out and the fact that we are having this argument means Brown isn't playing much/if any better than Morgan. That means you keep the young player with more potential and might be around to help you when your 2 win team is ready to compete.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 05:03 PM
Cool he's a project player. same was said about William Bartee remmeber how the great Ron Wolfe wanted to draft him? Then if you keep him & Pollard you still don't have a starting safety and create yet another postion that needs to be filled.

bh13
09-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Bullshit did he even play the first few games? Nobody talked about him at all until he played good aginst 3rd string scurbs on one of the shittiest teams in the league and now you all think the same guy who got out ran by lendale white will be a starter? Also GIF the play where the dumbass misplays the ball and luckily the Rams WR drops it otherwise it's a touchdown and we wouldn't be discussing this stupid conversation.

You mean Pollard? Or Carr?

nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bcad87/LenDale-White-Highlight-WK-07-vs-Chiefs-2008

Can't be Morgan because I don't see him on the field.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 05:05 PM
I think you didn't get the memo that the Chiefs aren't going to win shit this year so uh why cut young players with big upside?

Morgan needs to be given 3 years, you don't cut him after one, and he's far more naturally gifted than Pollard is.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 05:09 PM
I think you didn't get the memo that the Chiefs aren't going to win shit this year so uh why cut young players with big upside?

Morgan needs to be given 3 years, you don't cut him after one, and he's far more naturally gifted than Pollard is.

Where did I say the Chiefs would win anything? See we can have these discussion until you make up things I said. It's pretty clear Pioli has said he will bring in certain players that fit the system, You don't try and go 2-14 every year otherwise you'll be the like niners. The fact is nobody was even discussing DaJuan Morgan until his 1 good game (in which he still should have gave up a touchdown) aginst one of the crappiest teams in the league. You either keep him or Pollard not both though.

Mecca
09-04-2009, 05:11 PM
I'd cut Jon McGraw before I cut Morgan...

Raised On Riots
09-04-2009, 05:12 PM
I think you didn't get the memo that the Chiefs aren't going to win shit this year so uh why cut young players with big upside?

Morgan needs to be given 3 years, you don't cut him after one, and he's far more naturally gifted than Pollard is.

The important thing here is the overall consensus that Brown has little or nothing to offer us present or long term.

Yep, that's the one.:evil:

Mecca
09-04-2009, 05:13 PM
If they keep Mike Brown they'll have to keep 5 safeties cause he'll be on IR in a month.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 05:14 PM
I'd cut Jon McGraw before I cut Morgan...

You said Morgan needs 3 years. I'd dump Pollard since him and Morgan are the same player and let Morgan be the understudy to Brown for a year.

Saccopoo
09-04-2009, 05:15 PM
I think you didn't get the memo that the Chiefs aren't going to win shit this year so uh why cut young players with big upside?

Morgan needs to be given 3 years, you don't cut him after one, and he's far more naturally gifted than Pollard is.

Why is this even an argument/conversation? Brown is 30, has been injured for the past four seasons (lower leg injuries to boot) and lacks the athleticism to be effective as a free safety.

Morgan, Page and Pollard have all shown flashes and have the physical attributes you want in a safety. You've got to remember that these guys played and learned under a Herm led system. It's like they are learning to play football all over again.

A more relevant topic would be: "Why aren't we trading McBride, Hali and Dorsey and then draft Dunlap and Selvie?"

Tiger's Fan
09-04-2009, 05:17 PM
You mean Pollard? Or Carr?

nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bcad87/LenDale-White-Highlight-WK-07-vs-Chiefs-2008

Can't be Morgan because I don't see him on the field.

Please don't mind the stupidest poster on the planet, and welcome aboard n00b.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 05:17 PM
Why is this even an argument/conversation? Brown is 30, has been injured for the past four seasons (lower leg injuries to boot) and lacks the athleticism to be effective as a free safety.

Morgan, Page and Pollard have all shown flashes and have the physical attributes you want in a safety. You've got to remember that these guys played and learned under a Herm led system. It's like they are learning to play football all over again.

A more relevant topic would be: "Why aren't we trading McBride, Hali and Dorsey and then draft Dunlap and Selvie?"

You must have been busy with your boyfriends errrm wifes. Pollard has shown that he sucks and Page has proven that he can't tackle. Also you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about what they are doing now isn't much different than what they did under Herm.

Kyle DeLexus
09-04-2009, 05:18 PM
Where did I say the Chiefs would win anything? See we can have these discussion until you make up things I said. It's pretty clear Pioli has said he will bring in certain players that fit the system, You don't try and go 2-14 every year otherwise you'll be the like niners. The fact is nobody was even discussing DaJuan Morgan until his 1 good game (in which he still should have gave up a touchdown) aginst one of the crappiest teams in the league. You either keep him or Pollard not both though.Again he was hurt to start camp so he didn't even play the first game and has improved every week. You can't say the same about many other players on our roster.

Chocolate Hog
09-04-2009, 05:19 PM
Please don't mind the stupidest poster on the planet, and welcome aboard n00b.

Yea I wanna be the "smartest poster" which is a bit of an oxymoron. Also "busterhymen" sounds like you a perv, you must live in sacagoos compound.

tomahawk kid
09-04-2009, 05:26 PM
One thing I will say about Pioli and Haley.

They take out the trash and shitcan who needs to be shitcanned.

McIntosh was a lazy POS. Good riddance.

BTW - agree with earlier comments that we're bringing in another RT.

HIChief
09-04-2009, 05:28 PM
Holy Shit.

Who the **** is going to play on our OLine?

We will definitely be bringing in some other guys.


I don't see what the difference is; no one was playing on the O-line last night!

Saccopoo
09-04-2009, 05:28 PM
You must have been busy with your boyfriends errrm wifes. Pollard has shown that he sucks and Page has proven that he can't tackle. Also you have no idea what the **** you are talking about what they are doing now isn't much different than what they did under Herm.

Sorry, but pre-season doesn't mean shit other than getting these guys to learn a brand new system, and there were times last season where Pollard was the only bright spot on the defense. The guy hustles and seems to be around the ball all the time. Missing a couple of tackles in the preseason doesn't equate to letting him go in favor of a 30 year old with a history of leg injuries. That's just plain dumb.

And moving from a 43 to a 34 will have some growing pains. It's why Vrabel looks better than anyone else on the field so far. He's used to that scheme where the others aren't. Heck, I think it was Pollard who said something to the effect of players not having a clear idea where they were supposed to be and what their assignments were under the Herm/Gunther experiment.

So, to reiterate, why aren't we looking to trade McBride, Hali and Dorsey, pick up another first round pick and draft Dunlap, Suh and Selvie/Kindle?

Saccopoo
09-04-2009, 05:32 PM
I don't see what the difference is; no one was playing on the O-line last night!

When McIntosh let that guy blow right by him and get Croyle levelled, I said "That dude just earned himself a waiver." You know Haley isn't going to stand there and let his quarterback get killed.

Frankie
09-04-2009, 06:15 PM
Herb Taylor...

one more brilliant Herm draft pick down. ROFL

He was a 7th rounder, dude. And I thought he showed better potential than that. He never got a fair chance in KC it seems.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 06:30 PM
keep a guy who can't even keep up with Lendale White.

You are putting way too much stock into one play.

Direckshun
09-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Holy fucking shit. We have no backup LT.

Good thing, too, because as we all know Brandon Albert is impervious to injury.

booger
09-04-2009, 07:23 PM
He was a 7th rounder, dude. And I thought he showed better potential than that. He never got a fair chance in KC it seems.

6th

booger
09-04-2009, 07:24 PM
Brich played LT better than Taylor. Harris hasn't taken snaps there but did play both G and RT plus C in college. Not sure about LT though.

DaFace
09-04-2009, 07:29 PM
So, the real question is: how have I not noticed how much of a douchenozzle billay is until today?

booger
09-04-2009, 07:31 PM
ur a mod. cut off his fcking head please.

TIA

Direckshun
09-04-2009, 08:05 PM
So, the real question is: how have I not noticed how much of a douchenozzle billay is until today?

You don't moderate DC, I'd guess.

Hog Farmer
09-04-2009, 08:14 PM
Why is this even an argument/conversation? Brown is 30, has been injured for the past four seasons (lower leg injuries to boot) and lacks the athleticism to be effective as a free safety.

Morgan, Page and Pollard have all shown flashes and have the physical attributes you want in a safety. You've got to remember that these guys played and learned under a Herm led system. It's like they are learning to play football all over again.

A more relevant topic would be: "Why aren't we trading McBride, Hali and Dorsey and then draft Dunlap and Selvie?"

Thats a good point, Herm destroyed so many players abilities that past performance should be exempt from analysis of the players. I know we've had four games this year but they are all learning a new system. And our D is really looking pretty good I must say.

Nobody scored at will on us.

boogblaster
09-04-2009, 08:15 PM
Changes are going to shake up the metro .... Look out KC someday we might get a real team again ...

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 08:55 PM
He was a 7th rounder, dude. And I thought he showed better potential than that. He never got a fair chance in KC it seems.

6th

DaneMcCloud
09-04-2009, 08:57 PM
Thats a good point, Herm destroyed so many players abilities that past performance

LMAO

Yeah, he ruined Dwayne Bowe, Tamba Hali, Jared Allen, Brian Waters, Brandon Albert, Brenden Flowers, Jamal Charles, Brodie Croyle and especially Tony Gonzalez.

He totally FUCKED Gonzalez, Man.

You rule!

OctoberFart
09-04-2009, 09:12 PM
I can't make jokes about Sackintosh no mo?

Ah well. Now we will be bitching about Ndukwe. His pass blocking sucks.

No you can't pimp McIntosh like you always did before your flip flop.

Count Zarth
09-04-2009, 09:22 PM
No you can't pimp McIntosh like you always did before your flip flop.

I only pimped McIntosh as a left tackle, and he was a decent left tackle.

I NEVER thought he was a good right tackle. Ever.

So let's get that straight.

HemiEd
09-04-2009, 09:52 PM
There is no way the Chiefs don't bring in a RT this weekend. Levin Jones, someone.

This is a glorious day. That bastard is gone.

Hallifuckingluyah!!!!

Buehler445
09-04-2009, 10:03 PM
Morgan is not a finished product the other guys are...are we really going to cut young players with high upside cause some 30 year old scrub is slightly better right now?

Nah man lets keep Mike Brown, nothing is more valuable than a guy who'll go on IR.

I agree with these statements wholeheartedly. Times a kajillion.

So, the real question is: how have I not noticed how much of a douchenozzle billay is until today?

WTF man? Where have you been.

You don't moderate DC, I'd guess.
Nah, he's been a douche everywhere.

aturnis
09-04-2009, 11:44 PM
Jed's dead baby. Jed's dead.

Great name for a band man. You should start one up and play that "Celebration" song you love so much.

bringbackmarty
09-05-2009, 01:52 AM
Well, bye. To bad pillowbiterpen isn't on the list

you mean fay git pen? or flying buttmonkey pen?

Chocolate Hog
09-05-2009, 02:04 AM
So, the real question is: how have I not noticed how much of a douchenozzle billay is until today?

What'd I do that everyone else on here doesn't do? Pretty simple be an asshole to me i'll be an asshole to you. If i'm violating the TOS let me know and I'll reframe from being an asshole.