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bevischief
09-06-2009, 04:42 PM
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/9/6/1018689/ocallaghan-claimed-by-kansas-city

Former Patriots offensive lineman Ryan O'Callaghan has been awarded to the Kansas City Chiefs on waivers.

The Browns also put in a claim on O'Callaghan, but the Chiefs had priority based on having the worse record in 2008.

Former Patriots Vice President of Player Personnel Scott Pioli is in his first year as Chiefs general manager, so he has a background with O'Callaghan, a 2006 fifth-round draft choice in New England.

DBOSHO
09-06-2009, 04:43 PM
WOOT!

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 04:44 PM
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68 Ryan O'Callaghan
<table width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top"> Height: 6-7 Weight: 330
Year: 4 Yrs/Pat: 4
Acquired: D5-06(136th overall)
School: California
Major: Business
Born: Jul 19, 1983
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<hr> Ryan O'Callaghan was born the son of Tom and Evelyn O'Callaghan on July 19, 1983 in Susanville, Calif. ... Attended Enterprise (Redding, Calif.) High School, where he earned Prep Star All-America honors and was rated the 10th-best offensive line prospect in the West as a senior ... Selected to play on the California state all-star team vs. Florida ... Was a dominant offensive tackle as a senior, allowing no sacks while registering 74 knockdown blocks for a 10-2 team in 2000 ... Led a rushing attack that averaged 240 yards per game in his senior season ... Participated in Blue Cross Blue Shield Field Day at Gillette Stadium in 2007, running football drills for over 300 children at the event ... Was an interdisciplinary studies major at the University of California.


Career Highlights
<hr> GP/GS (Playoffs): 26/7 (3/0)


O'Callaghan has played in 26 games with seven starts for the Patriots over three seasons with the club (2006-08).
In 2007, O'Callaghan played in a career-high 15 games and made his lone start of the season in at right tackle in the Patriots' 38-35 win over the New York Giants on Dec. 29 - the final victory in the Patriots' 16-0 regular season.
As a rookie in 2006, O'Callaghan started a career-high six games at right tackle.



Career Transactions
<hr> Ryan O'Callaghan was drafted by the New England Patriots in the fifth round (136th overall) in the 2006 NFL Draft ... Signed by the Patriots (7/19/06) ... Placed on injured reserve with a shoulder injury (8/26/08).


Career Statistics
<hr> View Ryan O'Callaghan's Career Statistics (http://www.nfl.com/players/ryano%27callaghan/profile?id=OCA423541) >>

2007 Season
<hr> 2007 (15/1/0/1): Set a career high for games played, making 15 appearances in 2007, including one start at right tackle.
at N.Y. Jets (9/9): Played in a reserve role at right tackle... Reported as an eligible receiver at tight end on several offensive plays. San Diego (9/16): Saw action on special teams coverage units... Reported as an eligible receiver as a tight end on six offensive plays. Buffalo (9/23): Played on special teams protection units and reported as an eligible receiver on three offensive plays. at Cincinnati (10/1): Inactive. Cleveland (10/7): Saw action on special teams coverage and protection units in the Patriots' 34-17 victory over the Browns. at Dallas (10/14): Played in reserve on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 48-27 victory over the Cowboys. at Miami (10/21): Saw action in a reserve role on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 49-28 win over the Dolphins. Washington (10/28): Played in reserve on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' commanding 52-7 win over the Redskins. at Indianapolis (11/4): Played in a reserve role on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 24-20 comeback win over the Colts. at Buffalo (11/18): Saw action in a reserve role on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 56-10 win over the Bills. Philadelphia (11/25): Played in a reserve role on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 31-28 comeback win over the Eagles. at Baltimore (12/3): Saw action in a reserve role on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 27-24 win over the Ravens. Pittsburgh (12/9): Played on special teams protection and coverage units in the Patriots' 34-13 win over the Steelers... Declared as an eligible receiver on several offensive plays. N.Y. Jets (12/16): Saw action on special teams protection and return units in the Patriots' 20-10 win over the Jets. Miami (12/23): Played in reserve on special teams protection and return units while seeing snaps lined up as an eligible receiver at tight end in the Patriots' 28-7 win over the Dolphins. at N.Y. Giants (12/29): Made his first start of the season at right tackle... Contributed to an offensive line that only surrendered one sack to the league's top rated pass rush unit over 43 dropbacks as the Patriots completed their season undefeated for the fourth time in NFL history with a 38-35 comeback victory over the Giants.
2007 Postseason (3/0/0/0): Jacksonville (1/12): Played in reserve on special teams protection and return units in the Patriots' 31-20 win over the Jaguars. San Diego (1/20): Saw action on special teams protection units in the Patriots' 21-12 win over the Chargers in the AFC Championship Game. N.Y. Giants (2/3): Saw action on special teams protection and return units in Super Bowl XLII.

2006 Season
<hr> 2006 (11/6, 0/0): Saw action in 11 games as a rookie, starting six contests at right tackle ... Helped pave the way for the Patriots to record 1,969 rushing yards, the team's second highest total in the last 18 years ... Dressed but did not see action in all three playoff games ... Started his first career game at right tackle in the Patriots' 19-17 victory over Buffalo (9/10/06).
Buffalo (9/10): Made his first career NFL start at right tackle ... Member of an offensive line that opened holes for Patriots' rushers to gain 183 rushing yards on 41 carries (4.5 yard avg.). N.Y. Jets (9/17): Started at right tackle ... Part of an offensive line that allowed Patriots' rushers to gain 147 yards in the Patriots' 24-17 win over the N.Y. Jets. Denver (9/24): Started at right tackle and was a member of an offensive line that did not allow a sack despite 55 pass attempts. Miami (10/8): Made the start at right tackle ... Member of an offensive front that allowed just one sack on 29 pass attempts. Buffalo (10/22): Started at right tackle ... Pounced on a Tom Brady fumble midway through the third quarter. Minnesota (10/30): Started at right tackle ... Was a member of an offensive front that gave Tom Brady enough time to throw for 372 yards and tie his career high with four touchdown tosses ... Helped to pave the way for a running game that averaged 5.7 yards per carry, gaining 85 yards on just 15 rushes. Indianapolis (11/5): Played in a reserve role at right tackle ... Member of an offensive front that did not allow a sack on 35 pass attempts. Chicago (11/26): Saw action in a reserve role at right tackle ... Left the game with an injury in the second quarter. Tennessee (12/31): Saw significant action in a reserve role at right tackle ... Member of an offensive front that allowed Patriots' ball carriers to gain 171 rushing yards on just 31 carries (5.5 avg.).

College
<hr> Started 35 games for the University of California over four seasons (2002-05), missing only one game in his collegiate career ... In his final two seasons with the Bears, blocked for a 2,000-yard rusher (J.J. Arrington, 2004) and a pair of 1,000-yard performers (Marshawn Lynch and Justin Forsett, 2005) ... A two-time All-Pac-10 first team selection (2004-05) ... Recorded a total of 44 touchdown-resulting blocks in his career ... Started all 11 games in which he played as a senior in 2005 ... All-Pac-10 Conference first-team selection ... Recipient of the Morris Trophy, given to the outstanding offensive and defensive linemen in the Pac-10 Conference ... All-American Dream Team selection by The NFL Draft Report ... Rated the best right tackle in college by The Poor Man's Guide to the NFL Draft ... Started all 12 games as a junior in 2004 ... First-team All-Pac-10 Conference selection ... Started 11 of 12 games as a sophomore in 2003 ... Appeared in all 12 games as a reserve offensive tackle as a redshirt freshman in 2002.

Extra Points
<hr>

Ryan's father, Tom, was a catcher in the San Francisco Giants minor league system.
After his senior season at Cal, Ryan was awarded the Morris Trophy, which is given to the most outstanding offensive and defensive linemen in the Pacific-10 Conference. What makes the award unique is the selection procedure, which has the starting defensive linemen in the Conference voting for the offensive winner and vice versa.

the Talking Can
09-06-2009, 04:44 PM
good, he knows pioli's offense

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 04:45 PM
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/pics/small/california_ryan_ocallaghan_sm.jpg


He has a big lower body which is good.

Mr_Tomahawk
09-06-2009, 04:45 PM
I like it.

BigRock
09-06-2009, 04:45 PM
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BigMeatballDave
09-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Cool

KCDC
09-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Hooray. Who else did we get?

Coogs
09-06-2009, 04:47 PM
IR in 2008. Started 7 games at RT the previous 2 years with several other appearances in games.

Depth or Starter?

DBOSHO
09-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Hooray. Who else did we get?

boldin, haynesworth and reed

Red Beans
09-06-2009, 04:48 PM
My guess is starter.

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 04:49 PM
IR in 2008. Started 7 games at RT the previous 2 years with several other appearances in games.

Depth or Starter?
I'm sure he will get every chance to start at right tackle.

wild1
09-06-2009, 04:49 PM
And someone told me I was smoking crack a few days ago when I said our starting RT wasn't on the roster...

Count Zarth
09-06-2009, 04:49 PM
Thanks, Herm and Carl.

Coogs
09-06-2009, 04:50 PM
My guess is starter.

I sure hope so. God knows the copmetition isn't all that over on that side.

the Talking Can
09-06-2009, 04:50 PM
i told everyone we were crazy to pass on him in the 5th....

Touchdown Bowe
09-06-2009, 04:52 PM
Why dont we just draw sticks to see who starts at RG and RT..they all suck

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 04:52 PM
i told everyone we were crazy to pass on him in the 5th....

Shit, is his name really Meredith?

the Talking Can
09-06-2009, 04:53 PM
Shit, is his name really Meredith?

no, he was a 5th in 06...

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 04:55 PM
no, he was a 5th in 06...

I know... I was trying to make a playful swipe at Mecca. Obviously, I failed.

splatbass
09-06-2009, 04:57 PM
Depth or Starter?

With what we have here how can he not be a starter? Any backup in NE has to be better than what we have starting here.

booger
09-06-2009, 05:01 PM
Watch the new RT on NFLN now. Pats Giants replay.

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Watch the new RT on NFLN now. Pats Giants replay.

While you're watching, take a look at the size of Vollmer. He'll be the left tackle, and he's absolutely enormous.

KCChiefsMan
09-06-2009, 05:04 PM
our savior?

booger
09-06-2009, 05:04 PM
yep. saw him earlier this PS. Can't remember which game. Volmer is huge but lean too. No fat on that guy.

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 05:04 PM
Watch the new RT on NFLN now. Pats Giants replay.
thanks :clap:

BradyFTW!
09-06-2009, 05:05 PM
He was the only Pats cut that surprised me- you guys got a good player.

booger
09-06-2009, 05:06 PM
thanks :clap:

:thumb:

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 05:07 PM
He was the only Pats cut that surprised me- you guys got a good player.

Vollmer + LeVoir = O'Callaghan in a Chiefs uniform. LeVoir must have the Rams pissed off. They had him and let him get away.

JD10367
09-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Ryan's not bad. He was a backup who found his way into the lineup often, and held his own at RT. He was a bit of a surprise cut, and easily could've made the team again. At worst he's a solid backup/rotation guy for you. But he can probably push the RT starter if not win the job outright.

RustShack
09-06-2009, 05:09 PM
Albert-Waters-Niswanger-Ndukwe-O'Callaghan
Richardson-Smith-Alleman-Goff-Richardson

Alleman could win C easy and Goff will probably be the starting RG though.

BradyFTW!
09-06-2009, 05:10 PM
Vollmer + LeVoir = O'Callaghan in a Chiefs uniform. LeVoir must have the Rams pissed off. They had him and let him get away.

Pretty much, but LeVoir being on PUP worries me a little. Only carrying 3 OTs with Brady coming back from a knee injury seems a little risky.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-06-2009, 05:11 PM
Ryan's not bad. He was a backup who found his way into the lineup often, and held his own at RT. He was a bit of a surprise cut, and easily could've made the team again. At worst he's a solid backup/rotation guy for you. But he can probably push the RT starter if not win the job outright.

trust me, he'll win the job, it wont be much of a challenge for him

JD10367
09-06-2009, 05:14 PM
My eyes are bad, and I'm in a dark room, and every time I see the truncated title of this thread I read, "O'Callaghan has been awared to the Kansas Clit". :shrug:

Mr. Arrowhead
09-06-2009, 05:16 PM
Adam Schefter twitter says, the browns try to make a claim for O'callaghan.

WhitiE
09-06-2009, 05:16 PM
IR in 2008. Started 7 games at RT the previous 2 years with several other appearances in games.

Depth or Starter?

either way it should help....

Mr. Arrowhead
09-06-2009, 05:17 PM
either way it should help....
Im guessing depth for a good offense line, starter on a average to bad o line like ours.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-06-2009, 05:20 PM
This is a really good signing, either way you look at it. It's the best FA move this team has made since the new regime came in (not saying much given that they were all scrubs, but still).

At worst, he can be a body at RG. At best, he's a league average RT, which is far better than the turnstiles we've had there.

Hopefully by Week 4 the line will be Albert, Waters, Alleman, Niswanger, and O'Callaghan.

Coogs
09-06-2009, 05:22 PM
Hopefully by Week 4 the line will be Albert, Waters, Alleman, Niswanger, and O'Callaghan.

You got something against weeks 1, 2, and 3? :)

chiefzilla1501
09-06-2009, 05:23 PM
This is an okay signing. I'm glad they went out and got him and I think he'll end up being better than Runyan. I don't think he's anything but a 1-year fix, but he's a hell of a lot better than McIntosh.

Just posing the question. Was he the best player out there? It worries me that the majority of the people we've been looking at lately are Pats rejects. Is it possible that Pioli is favoring guys he's formerly recruited over prospects that might be better? It seems interesting that the only two teams to put a claim in for O'Callaghan have major decision makers who used to be with the Patriots.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:23 PM
This is a really good signing, either way you look at it. It's the best FA move this team has made since the new regime came in (not saying much given that they were all scrubs, but still).

At worst, he can be a body at RG. At best, he's a league average RT, which is far better than the turnstiles we've had there.

Hopefully by Week 4 the line will be Albert, Waters, Alleman, Niswanger, and O'Callaghan.

I really don't believe that O'Callaghanis an upgrade at RT.

If you're interested, the Pats are on NFL Network right now, and he justgot abused by a Giant DE.

Micjones
09-06-2009, 05:24 PM
This is a really good signing, either way you look at it. It's the best FA move this team has made since the new regime came in (not saying much given that they were all scrubs, but still).

At worst, he can be a body at RG. At best, he's a league average RT, which is far better than the turnstiles we've had there.

Hopefully by Week 4 the line will be Albert, Waters, Alleman, Niswanger, and O'Callaghan.

I like Niswanger at Guard. He played well there in spot duty (2007).

Coogs
09-06-2009, 05:24 PM
This is an okay signing. I'm glad they went out and got him and I think he'll end up being better than Runyan. I don't think he's anything but a 1-year fix, but he's a hell of a lot better than McIntosh.

Just posing the question. Was he the best player out there? It worries me that the majority of the people we've been looking at lately are Pats rejects. Is it possible that Pioli is favoring guys he's formerly recruited over prospects that might be better? It seems interesting that the only two teams to put a claim in for O'Callaghan have major decision makers who used to be with the Patriots.


Better to raid the Pats, than to raid the Lions.

Sully
09-06-2009, 05:25 PM
Didn't he play for the 1980 USA hockey team?

KC Jones
09-06-2009, 05:26 PM
If you're interested, the Pats are on NFL Network right now, and he justgot abused by a Giant DE.

You could say that about a lot of starting tackles in the league.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-06-2009, 05:28 PM
I really don't believe that O'Callaghanis an upgrade at RT.

If you're interested, the Pats are on NFL Network right now, and he justgot abused by a Giant DE.

He's definitely stiff in pass pro, but I don't think he's as bad as Ndukwe. Richardson is better in pass pro than O'Callaghan, but not near the run blocker.

Richardson can get better over time and has a much higher ceiling, but I like the idea of letting him sit till around the bye.

splatbass
09-06-2009, 05:28 PM
My eyes are bad, and I'm in a dark room, and every time I see the truncated title of this thread I read, "O'Callaghan has been awared to the Kansas Clit". :shrug:

He will be replacing this guy as the CLIT Commander.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:29 PM
You could say that about a lot of starting tackles in the league.

Yes you can.

But not as badly as O'Callaghan got owed by the Giant second teamer.

It was McIntosh ownage.

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 05:29 PM
watching against the Giants and O'callaghan looks like he is a pretty good pass blocker.

Good leverage, quick feet

He looks to be an immediate upgrade for us in pass protection. I wondered about power and run blocking though.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:30 PM
He's definitely stiff in pass pro, but I don't think he's as bad as Ndukwe. Richardson is better in pass pro than O'Callaghan, but not near the run blocker.

Richardson can get better over time and has a much higher ceiling, but I like the idea of letting him sit till around the bye.

I think that's a fair assessment.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:30 PM
watching against the Giants and O'callaghan looks like he is a pretty good pass blocker.

Good leverage, quick feet

He looks to be an immediate upgrade for us in pass protection. I wondered about power and run blocking though.

You are fucking high.

Mr. Krab
09-06-2009, 05:31 PM
You are fucking high.
of course i am, i didn't agree with you.

Coogs
09-06-2009, 05:31 PM
Yes you can.

But not as badly as O'Callaghan got owed by the Giant second teamer.

It was McIntosh ownage.

Way to take the glow off of the new kid in town! :cuss:

;)

BigRock
09-06-2009, 05:32 PM
Is Richardson still PS eligible? I kinda doubt they're gonna keep 3 RTs on the roster.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:34 PM
of course i am, i didn't agree with you.

He has slow feet.

He's a stiff in pass protection, and got so abused on the play that I talked about that he had red headed step children laughing at him.

the Talking Can
09-06-2009, 05:37 PM
I know... I was trying to make a playful swipe at Mecca. Obviously, I failed.

i failed too. it's ok

BigRock
09-06-2009, 05:45 PM
Is Richardson still PS eligible? I kinda doubt they're gonna keep 3 RTs on the roster.

Yup. Looks like they swapped him with Richardson on the roster.

Barry was inactive for all but 4-5 games last season, so I think he's still PS eligible. But I forget the nitty gritty specifics.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:47 PM
Yup. Looks like they swapped him with Richardson on the roster.

Barry was inactive for all but 4-5 games last season, so I think he's still PS eligible. But I forget the nitty gritty specifics.

6 games on the active roster constitute an accrued season.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:49 PM
Yup. Looks like they swapped him with Richardson on the roster.

Barry was inactive for all but 4-5 games last season, so I think he's still PS eligible. But I forget the nitty gritty specifics.

Got a link to that roster?

I still see BR on the roster a the Chiefs website.

Mr. Arrowhead
09-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Looney said on KC chiefs blog, that the chiefs are trying to put richardson on the PS if he clears waivers

DumbHillbillies
09-06-2009, 05:50 PM
IR in 2008. Started 7 games at RT the previous 2 years with several other appearances in games.

Depth or Starter?
Sounds like depth talent but you never know with us.

milkman
09-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Sounds like depth talent but you never know with us.

Multiple personalities, are ya?

BigRock
09-06-2009, 05:52 PM
Got a link to that roster?

I still see BR on the roster a the Chiefs website.

It's on the blog on the Chiefs' site.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/05/access_arrowhead_blog__wheeling_and_dealing/

booger
09-06-2009, 05:56 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Sunday that the club has been awarded T Ryan O’Callaghan off waivers from New England. The Chiefs also added seven players to the practice squad: CB Jackie Bates, TE Tom Crabtree, DE Dion Gales, DE Bobby Greenwood, G Darryl Harris, RB Javarris Williams and WR Rodney Wright. The Chiefs waived T Barry Richardson. Richardson played in six games for the Chiefs in 2008.

O’Callaghan (6-7, 330) has played in 26 games (seven starts) in three seasons with New England (2006-08). He played in 15 games with one start at right tackle for the Patriots in 2007. O’Callaghan has also seen duty in three postseason contests. He originally entered the NFL as a fifth-round selection (136th overall) of the Patriots in the 2006 NFL Draft.

The Susanville, California native started 35 games during his four-year collegiate career at the University of California-Berkley. He was a prep standout at Enterprise High School in Redding, California.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/06/chiefs_announce_more_roster_moves/

KCtotheSB
09-06-2009, 06:07 PM
I wonder if the Patriots took a big, greasy shit.....would we act like rabid dogs to jump on that too?

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 06:11 PM
I wonder if the Patriots took a big, greasy shit.....would we act like rabid dogs to jump on that too?

Well, the Chiefs didn't put in a waiver claim for O'Connell when he was released. You can take comfort in that.

KCDC
09-06-2009, 06:11 PM
With the crap we have on our roster, this was the best Pioli could do? Find one weak OT to claim on waivers? Wow, I was thinking he would grab several players off of the waiver wire. Disappointing.

KCDC
09-06-2009, 06:12 PM
Well, the Chiefs didn't put in a waiver claim for O'Connell when he was released. You can take comfort in that.

Maybe we did, but the Lions got him first.

JD10367
09-06-2009, 06:13 PM
I wonder if the Patriots took a big, greasy shit.....would we act like rabid dogs to jump on that too?

Depends on it's 40-yard-dash times? :shrug:

There are two things at play here.

1.) Personnel guys prefer what they're familiar with. Guys like Pioli are familiar with the guys the Pats are cutting, so they might choose them over other waiver-wire guys.

2.) The Pats also happen to be a decent team. So, it stands to reason, guys they cut might be of slightly higher quality than, say, guys the Lions cut. If Pioli had gone to the Chiefs from, say, Cleveland or Oakland, I doubt he'd be jumping all over their roster cuts.

JD10367
09-06-2009, 06:14 PM
With the crap we have on our roster, this was the best Pioli could do? Find one weak OT to claim on waivers? Wow, I was thinking he would grab several players off of the waiver wire. Disappointing.

Most teams tend to re-sign their own cuts to their PS, it seems. A few guys move around, but not as many as you would think.

Just Passin' By
09-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Maybe we did, but the Lions got him first.

No, the teams that put in the claim were published.

DA_T_84
09-06-2009, 06:15 PM
Maybe we did, but the Lions got him first.

No, we didn't. Everyone turns in a request, and then they decide where he lands.

We did not submit a request.

WildTurkey
09-06-2009, 06:15 PM
With the crap we have on our roster, this was the best Pioli could do? Find one weak OT to claim on waivers? Wow, I was thinking he would grab several players off of the waiver wire. Disappointing.

shit that "weak" OT is better than any of the RT's we had on the roster previously so I'll take it

notorious
09-06-2009, 06:32 PM
The guy looks like Tom Brady if he let himself go. Maybe there is something amiss...........

Easy 6
09-06-2009, 06:38 PM
SEAMUS O'CALLAGHAN MURDERS GRIZZLY BEARS IN THEIR SLEEP FOR FUN!!!11!

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-06-2009, 06:47 PM
Depends on it's 40-yard-dash times? :shrug:

There are two things at play here.

1.) Personnel guys prefer what they're familiar with. Guys like Pioli are familiar with the guys the Pats are cutting, so they might choose them over other waiver-wire guys.

2.) The Pats also happen to be a decent team. So, it stands to reason, guys they cut might be of slightly higher quality than, say, guys the Lions cut. If Pioli had gone to the Chiefs from, say, Cleveland or Oakland, I doubt he'd be jumping all over their roster cuts.

Of the free agent acquisitions we've made since Pioli took over almost every one came from the Parcells tree teams

Travis Daniels: New England
Mays: New England
Copper: New Orleans
Engram: Seattle
Goff: SD
Wright: Fresno State
Thomas: Dallas
Ryan: Dallas and the Mangini Jets
Ghiacuic: Cincinnati
Brown: Chicago
Toomer: Giants
Guittierez: New England
Lelie: San Fran
Alleman: Miami
Ndukwe: Miami
Tony Curtis: Dallas
Beisel: Arizona/New England


Only 5 of 17 signings that we've made since March 11 don't have an immediate connection to a HC from the Parcells tree, 1/2 of them came from 3 teams out of 31.

Perhaps we're conducting our operations a bit myopically. This really reminds me of Vermeil's approach to talent acquisition. It's like if you don't know the guy he doesn't exist.

Hog Farmer
09-06-2009, 06:54 PM
Alright... we claimed someone off waivers that may be a starter for us.

Fuck!!!!!!

Amnorix
09-06-2009, 08:03 PM
O'Callaghan is solid. Not great, but perfectly serviceable. If McIntosh is your alternative at right tackle, which I believe someone mentioned in another thread, then I would take O'Callaghan over him as the starter any day.

wild1
09-06-2009, 08:16 PM
O'Callaghan is solid. Not great, but perfectly serviceable. If McIntosh is your alternative at right tackle, which I believe someone mentioned in another thread, then I would take O'Callaghan over him as the starter any day.

Thanks for the input.

It was a mistake not to address the line a little more in the offseason, but they've added 3 more people and cut dead weight on the line since camp began. I don't know what else we can do at this point.

Coach
09-06-2009, 08:17 PM
Thanks for the input.

It was a mistake not to address the line a little more in the offseason, but they've added 3 more people and cut dead weight on the line since camp began. I don't know what else we can do at this point.

Keep finding offensive linemen. I just hope the Chiefs have an serviceable LT back-up in case something happens to Albert (God Forbid that happens)

Also, they'll need to find somebody at C and RG.

the Talking Can
09-06-2009, 08:19 PM
O'Callaghan is solid. Not great, but perfectly serviceable. If McIntosh is your alternative at right tackle, which I believe someone mentioned in another thread, then I would take O'Callaghan over him as the starter any day.

well that sucks we acquired a definite upgrade at our weakest position


when is pioli going to get off his lazy ass and do his job?

dirk digler
09-06-2009, 08:19 PM
I don't know what else we can do at this point.

Pray

Coach
09-06-2009, 08:20 PM
Pray

That too.

BigChiefFan
09-06-2009, 08:21 PM
Barry Richardson didn't do squat to warrant a roster spot. Hell, Herb Taylor performed better than Richardson ever dreamed of and nobody is clamoring for him. We now have O'Callaghan instead of Richardson. I don't see the problem. We upgraded the position-that's the goal.

Yes, I want a Hell of alot more moves, but that is irrelevant to whether or not O'Callaghan is better than B-Rich.

wild1
09-06-2009, 08:24 PM
well that sucks we acquired a definite upgrade at our weakest position


when is pioli going to get off his lazy ass and do his job?

ROFL :clap:

boogblaster
09-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Relax people we're not done .. more to come .. bad point .. season starts in 7 days ...

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Barry Richardson didn't do squat to warrant a roster spot. Hell, Herb Taylor performed better than Richardson ever dreamed of and nobody is clamoring for him. We now have O'Callaghan instead of Richardson. I don't see the problem. We upgraded the position-that's the goal.

Yes, I want a Hell of alot more moves, but that is irrelevant to whether or not O'Callaghan is better than B-Rich.

It's not about Richardson and O'Callaghan, it's about Richardson and Ndukwe, Wade Smith, Thigpen, Guttierez, etc.

Coach
09-06-2009, 08:31 PM
Barry Richardson didn't do squat to warrant a roster spot. Hell, Herb Taylor performed better than Richardson ever dreamed of and nobody is clamoring for him. We now have O'Callaghan instead of Richardson. I don't see the problem. We upgraded the position-that's the goal.

Yes, I want a Hell of alot more moves, but that is irrelevant to whether or not O'Callaghan is better than B-Rich.

I actually was disappointed in the Chiefs for letting Herb go. Now who they expect to back up Albert?

Everybody's been saying that Taylor was, occasionally, our 3rd best offensive linemen behind Albert and Waters, and yet, the Chiefs don't see that?

There's something more to this. There had to be something that Taylor did that got him cut.

Easy 6
09-06-2009, 08:57 PM
At the very least, we get a player that started 7 games for a proven powerhouse... by all accounts solid, if not All-Universe, who, more importantly, has experienced & seen how a championship club prepares for a W. Thats whats needed right now.

I've clamored for some, big $, big splash signing, out of desperation...but this makes more sense long-term. Why -reach- for a big ticket item this early on? when a younger, cheaper, serviceable player is available?

Spend the BIG JACK when the no-brainer presents itself, its just not there right now.

Micjones
09-06-2009, 09:03 PM
At the very least, we get a player that started 7 games for a proven powerhouse... by all accounts solid, if not All-Universe, who, more importantly, has experienced & seen how a championship club prepares for a W. Thats whats needed right now.

I've clamored for some, big $, big splash signing, out of desperation...but this makes more sense long-term. Why -reach- for a big ticket item this early on? when a younger, cheaper, serviceable player is available?

Spend the BIG JACK when the no-brainer presents itself, its just not there right now.

And I'm happy with the signing, but at this point it can't end here.
We're still in some serious trouble at the WR spot.
And we could stand to upgrade the TE and KR/PR spot.
ANYTHING to help Cassel.

smittysbar
09-06-2009, 09:33 PM
Great move, nice upgrade.

Easy 6
09-06-2009, 09:35 PM
And I'm happy with the signing, but at this point it can't end here.
We're still in some serious trouble at the WR spot.
And we could stand to upgrade the TE and KR/PR spot.
ANYTHING to help Cassel.

This roster has more holes than a Charlies Angels plot, we cant stand firm anywhere. There are fires raging at every position right now...and thats why i love it right now.

The simple fact that every seat, is a hot seat.

Has Pioli & Haley made every right call, at every crossroads?...i think not, a recent example is cutting Herb Taylor, a decent, cheap insurance policy for Albert.

But atleast the right wheels are in motion.

alanm
09-06-2009, 09:37 PM
http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/pics/small/california_ryan_ocallaghan_sm.jpg


He has a big lower body which is good.What?.. All that means is he's a fat ass. ;)

splatbass
09-06-2009, 10:19 PM
It's not about Richardson and O'Callaghan, it's about Richardson and Ndukwe, Wade Smith, Thigpen, Guttierez, etc.

AS I said earlier, it is obvious that they are keeping Guitierez and Thigpen because Cassel is hurt. I would be more than shocked if one of them didn't get cut as soon as he is back. They've never intended to keep 4 QBs.

That part of your post is incredibly unfair to Pioli.

keg in kc
09-06-2009, 10:20 PM
I'm hoping they're still trying to trade Thigpen despite everything. Like, take some boxers for him. Anything.

Chiefshrink
09-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Well, the Chiefs didn't put in a waiver claim for O'Connell when he was released. You can take comfort in that.

You wonder if Denver will since McSuck has no one their that knows his offense and they have serious QB issues. I see why Pioli grabbed Guitterez because I'm sure Pioli foresaw QB problems for his former colleague and now enemy in his own division thought he would continue to make it difficult for McSuck by signing Guitterez.:thumb:

Chiefshrink
09-06-2009, 10:43 PM
I'm hoping they're still trying to trade Thigpen despite everything. Like, take some boxers for him. Anything.

I think we are toast on that issue:banghead:

Chiefshrink
09-06-2009, 10:45 PM
This roster has more holes than a Charlies Angels plot, we cant stand firm anywhere. There are fires raging at every position right now...and thats why i love it right now.

The simple fact that every seat, is a hot seat.

Has Pioli & Haley made every right call, at every crossroads?...i think not, a recent example is cutting Herb Taylor, a decent, cheap insurance policy for Albert.

But atleast the right wheels are in motion.

Action being taken to fix what is obvious is so foreign for us Chief die-hards because of 20yrs of Carl's ego.:banghead:

Count Zarth
09-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Supposedly this guy can drive motherfuckers off the ball like a tractor.

We need that.

Easy 6
09-06-2009, 10:56 PM
You wonder if Denver will since McSuck has no one their that knows his offense and they have serious QB issues. I see why Pioli grabbed Guitterez because I'm sure Pioli foresaw QB problems for his former colleague and now enemy in his own division thought he would continue to make it difficult for McSuck by signing Guitterez.:thumb:

Thats strategy worthy of your av.

chiefzilla1501
09-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Barry Richardson didn't do squat to warrant a roster spot. Hell, Herb Taylor performed better than Richardson ever dreamed of and nobody is clamoring for him. We now have O'Callaghan instead of Richardson. I don't see the problem. We upgraded the position-that's the goal.

Yes, I want a Hell of alot more moves, but that is irrelevant to whether or not O'Callaghan is better than B-Rich.

You don't see a problem with this?

If Albert is, God forbid, injured. What the fuck are the Chiefs going to do?

There is NOBODY on this roster that can play left tackle but Albert.

KC kid
09-06-2009, 11:14 PM
You don't see a problem with this?

If Albert is, God forbid, injured. What the **** are the Chiefs going to do?

There is NOBODY on this roster that can play left tackle but Albert.

Richardson sure could not play left tackle either.

chiefzilla1501
09-06-2009, 11:17 PM
Richardson sure could not play left tackle either.

A lot better than somebody who has never played the position before.

It's not about how well he plays the position. It's about not having anybody at all to back up arguably the second most important position on the team.

Cutting both Taylor and Richardson is beyond reckless. They are gambling and the guy who stands to lose the most in the case of an injury to Albert is the guy the Chiefs just signed to a very expensive long-term deal.

splatbass
09-06-2009, 11:34 PM
Cutting both Taylor and Richardson is beyond reckless. They are gambling and the guy who stands to lose the most in the case of an injury to Albert is the guy the Chiefs just signed to a very expensive long-term deal.

Maybe they think that one of the others they have can play it as well as Taylor and Richardson. They see them every day in practice, we don't. All we can do is guess. We don't know if any of the others have taken reps at LT or not. It is kind of foolish to get angry over speculation.

chiefzilla1501
09-06-2009, 11:50 PM
Maybe they think that one of the others they have can play it as well as Taylor and Richardson. They see them every day in practice, we don't. All we can do is guess. We don't know if any of the others have taken reps at LT or not. It is kind of foolish to get angry over speculation.

There's not much to speculate. Name one player who can play left tackle on this roster except for Albert.

salame
09-07-2009, 12:38 AM
so he is our new rt huh

The Bad Guy
09-07-2009, 12:52 AM
This "if Albert goes down" shit is nonsense. 95% of the teams in the NFL couldn't afford to have their LT go down. Herb Taylor or Barry Richardson were not making Matt Cassel feel anymore secure.

Bill Muir is an excellent OL coach. He turned chicken shit into chicken salad in Tampa. If he thought Taylor or Richardson were worth a shit, they'd be on this roster.

Tiger's Fan
09-07-2009, 01:10 AM
It's not about Richardson and O'Callaghan, it's about Richardson and Ndukwe, Wade Smith, Thigpen, Guttierez, etc.

:deevee:

You are a pussy. STFU and STFD.

This place is so much better without you.

I really wish your ghey partner would kill you in your sleep

DA_T_84
09-07-2009, 01:12 AM
I really wish your ghey partner would kill you in your sleep

NTTATWT

Tiger's Fan
09-07-2009, 01:16 AM
NTTATWT

heh

chiefzilla1501
09-07-2009, 07:44 AM
This "if Albert goes down" shit is nonsense. 95% of the teams in the NFL couldn't afford to have their LT go down. Herb Taylor or Barry Richardson were not making Matt Cassel feel anymore secure.

Bill Muir is an excellent OL coach. He turned chicken shit into chicken salad in Tampa. If he thought Taylor or Richardson were worth a shit, they'd be on this roster.

Same is true for a QB. Can you think of any teams in the NFL, even the Colts and the Saints, that don't have a backup QB? And it doesn't matter how good Muir is an o-line coach. You can't turn a Guard into a left tackle.

This isn't a hypothetical. Albert's missed 4 preseason games and a game and a half to injury already. Last year, Herb Taylor wasn't lights out, but he did okay enough. Putting a Guard at Left Tackle if Albert goes down is a recipe for a Cassel IR injury.

95% of teams can't afford to lose their left tackle. But name one team that isn't carrying a guy on their roster that can adequately play left tackle in the event of an injury. It's not even that we have a bad left tackle at backup. It's that nobody can play the position, period.

splatbass
09-07-2009, 11:42 AM
There's not much to speculate. Name one player who can play left tackle on this roster except for Albert.

The Chiefs just released the depth chart, and Ikechuku Ndukwe is listed as backup LT.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 11:52 AM
Ndukwe can't even pass protect against third string left ends. What makes anyone thinks he can protect against right ends?

splatbass
09-07-2009, 11:56 AM
Ndukwe can't even pass protect against third string left ends. What makes anyone thinks he can protect against right ends?

Did anyone think that? Please show us an example of someone saying that.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 12:01 PM
Did anyone think that? Please show us an example of someone saying that.

The Depth Chart.

splatbass
09-07-2009, 12:02 PM
The Depth Chart.

True. But no one on here.

RedThat
09-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Ndukwe can't even pass protect against third string left ends. What makes anyone thinks he can protect against right ends?

Nduwke was a fulltime starter last year for the phins.

but was it as a guard? id try him out as guard. couldn't hurt? goff has been terrible.

o'callahan could be servicable as a RT.

the offensive line has to do some shuffling, its the only option we have to try and fix it at this point.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 12:06 PM
True. But no one on here.

I never claimed any poster here said it. "Anyone" was a rhetorical "how in the fuck could they possibly think this?"

kstater
09-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Nduwke was a fulltime starter last year for the phins.

but was it as a guard? id try him out as guard. couldn't hurt? goff has been terrible.

o'callahan could be servicable as a RT.

the offensive line has to do some shuffling, its the only option we have to try and fix it at this point.

I think once O'Callahan gets up to speed on the playbook, he'll come in at RT and Nduwke will slide over.

splatbass
09-07-2009, 12:21 PM
I think once O'Callahan gets up to speed on the playbook, he'll come in at RT and Nduwke will slide over.

That's what I think too.

ChiefaRoo
09-07-2009, 12:46 PM
Ndukwe can't even pass protect against third string left ends. What makes anyone thinks he can protect against right ends?

You're right he's no McIntosh... no.. wait...