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KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:00 PM
Only allowed 1 sack last year in 15 starts at RG. McIntosh allowed 7.0 (listed)

Sounds like an upgrade to me even though Ndukwe played RG.

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:00 PM
He's fine as a guard at RT not so much.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 05:01 PM
He should be playing guard, then.

He was getting his ass kicked at right tackle last week.

beach tribe
09-07-2009, 05:02 PM
He's playing RT. How does this make any sense at all?

Pasta Giant Meatball
09-07-2009, 05:03 PM
Cmon, dude. There is a huge difference between playing guard and tackle.

Blick
09-07-2009, 05:03 PM
I don't understand why he's not getting a look at right guard.

I guess Goff has that spot locked down.:banghead:

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:05 PM
So most of you dont think hes an upgrade?

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Only allowed 1 sack last year in 15 starts at RG. McIntosh allowed 7.0 (listed)

Sounds like an upgrade to me even though Ndukwe played RG.

There's a hell of a lot of difference between a guard blocking a big interior D-Lineman who is trying to bull his way or shoot a gap to the QB and an OT who has to move his feet with some fluidity in order to keep a DE or rushbacker getting around the corner.

The fact is, the combination of O'Callaghan and Ndukwe is no better than McIntosh and Richardson.

Add the fact that Niswanger still sucks ass, and Mike Goff can cause to look back wistfully on Adrian Jones, it all adds up to one thing.

Our QBs are fucked, because this line is no better than the line from last year.

It may well be worse.

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:06 PM
If they wanna play Ndukwe seriously put him at RG and cut Mike Goff dude is done.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:07 PM
There's a hell of a lot of difference between a guard blocking a big interior D-Lineman who is trying to bull his way or shoot a gap to the QB and an OT who has to move his feet with some fluidity in order to keep a DE or rushbacker getting around the corner.

The fact is, the combination of O'Callaghan and Ndukwe is no better than McIntosh and Richardson.

Add the fact that Niswanger still sucks ass, and Mike Goff can cause to look back wistfully on Adrian Jones, it all adds up to one thing.

Our QBs are ****ed, because this line is no better than the line from last year.

It may well be worse.

I really disagree with that statement. But I guess we'll see.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 05:08 PM
If they wanna play Ndukwe seriously put him at RG and cut Mike Goff dude is done.

Yeah I don't really get this, at all.

It's like they're hoping Goff can turn it on and Ndukwe will get comfortable with a few more starts...

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:08 PM
If they wanna play Ndukwe seriously put him at RG and cut Mike Goff dude is done.

So you think it should be...Albert,Waters,Niswanger,Ndukwe, then who at RT?

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:08 PM
If I had my way I wouldn't start Rudy Niswanger either.

Mr. Krab
09-07-2009, 05:09 PM
Guard and tackle is a huge difference, much like corner and safety. You move guys from Tackle > guard and from corner > safety, not the other way around.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:09 PM
If I had my way I wouldn't start Rudy Niswanger either.

I dont like him either. So who should be center then? Wade Smith sucks

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:10 PM
I really disagree with that statement. But I guess we'll see.

O'Callaghan is a better run blocker than any of them, but he is worse than both McIntosh and Richardson in pass protect.

His feet move about as quickly as a cow stuck in the mud.

And Ndukwe is just fucking horrible.

He is the worst of the fucking bunch.

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:10 PM
Start Alleman at center start Ocallaghan at RT see what they got. It would be really hard for them to be any worse...

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:12 PM
O'Callaghan is a better run blocker than any of them, but he is worse than both McIntosh and Richardson in pass protect.

His feet move about as quickly as a cow stuck in the mud.

And Ndukwe is just ****ing horrible.

He is the worst of the ****ing bunch.

You think hes worse than McIntosh although he didnt even play RT? How can you say this without any footage?

OnTheWarpath58
09-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Start Alleman at center start Ocallaghan at RT see what they got. It would be really hard for them to be any worse...

I'm with you on this one.

I think Niswanger could be an asset at RG, he's shown in past duty he's more capable than Goff is.

Put Alleman at Center, Rudy at RG and O' Callghan at RT - and go from there.

It honestly can't be any worse than what they're doing now.

Mr. Krab
09-07-2009, 05:13 PM
You think hes worse than McIntosh although he didnt even play RT? How can you say this without any footage?Milkman saw him get beaten bad in the only game he's seem him play so therefore he worse than dirt.

I thought i saw some potential in pass protection myself.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Start Alleman at center start Ocallaghan at RT see what they got. It would be really hard for them to be any worse...

I like the addition of O'Callaghan. Has Alleman ever played Center?

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:13 PM
You think hes worse than McIntosh although he didnt even play RT? How can you say this without any footage?

What?

He played RT in the preseason in two games that I watched, and his feet couldn't have been slower if they'd been weighed down by bricks..

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Ndukwe got his ass beat by some scrub Rams backup, it's not that hard to see why some people don't like the idea of him playing OT.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:15 PM
Milkman saw him get beaten bad in the only game he's seem him play so therefore he worse than dirt.

I thought i saw some potential in pass protection myself.

Sometimes people on here jump to conclusions without even giving a player a chance. First impressions arent always the key to the future

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 05:15 PM
I wonder if O'Callaghan could play guard? Pretty tall, though...

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:15 PM
Milkman saw him get beaten bad in the only game he's seem him play so therefore he worse than dirt.

I thought i saw some potential in pass protection myself.

You don't have a fucking clue what I've seen, so go back to fucking your mother and shut the fuck up you useless little cock sucking dumbfuck.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:18 PM
What?

He played RT in the preseason in two games that I watched, and his feet couldn't have been slower if they'd been weighed down by bricks..

So your going to base your thoughts off of 2 preseason games with a new team and offensive line? I thought one of the keys to being a good O-lineman was to "gel" with the players around you.

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:19 PM
So your going to base your thoughts off of 2 preseason games with a new team and offensive line? I thought one of the keys to being a good O-lineman was to "gel" with the players around you.

An OT has to be able to move his feet.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:20 PM
An OT has to be able to move his feet.

Was his feet worse than McIntosh? McIntosh had some of the worst blocking mechanics ive seen from a starting RT

Mecca
09-07-2009, 05:21 PM
Playing guard and OT are not the same...guys who make the pro bowl at guard would likely suck as OT's.

OnTheWarpath58
09-07-2009, 05:21 PM
Was his feet worse than McIntosh? McIntosh had some of the worst blocking mechanics ive seen from a starting RT

Sure looks like he already addressed this.

O'Callaghan is a better run blocker than any of them, but he is worse than both McIntosh and Richardson in pass protect.

His feet move about as quickly as a cow stuck in the mud.

And Ndukwe is just fucking horrible.

He is the worst of the fucking bunch.

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:22 PM
Was his feet worse than McIntosh? McIntosh had some of the worst blocking mechanics ive seen from a starting RT

As I said, he couldn't have been slower if they were weighted down with bricks.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:22 PM
Playing guard and OT are not the same...guys who make the pro bowl at guard would likely suck as OT's.

I understand that. My main point though was that he is an upgrade over McIntosh. At this point thats all I ask.

DBOSHO
09-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Was his feet worse than McIntosh? McIntosh had some of the worst blocking mechanics ive seen from a starting RT

Mcintosh didnt move at all, so as long as 0callahan can take more than no steps he should be an upgrade

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:23 PM
As I said, he couldn't have been slower if they were weighted down with bricks.

Maybe we need GoChiefs to get us some clips of his snaps. I was watching online, therefore I had a difficult time seeing anything in detail.

Mr. Krab
09-07-2009, 05:24 PM
You don't have a fucking clue what I've seen, so go back to fucking your mother and shut the fuck up you useless little cock sucking dumbfuck.
oh lookie-lookie i think i made someone angry. ROFL

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:24 PM
Mcintosh didnt move at all, so as long as 0callahan can take more than no steps he should be an upgrade

LMAO its true

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:24 PM
As I said, he couldn't have been slower if they were weighted down with bricks.

I'll say this, though.

It is possible that he is just adapting to the position and his feet will improve.

I don't know how much he's played OT before this year, if at all.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 05:24 PM
Maybe we need GoChiefs to get us some clips of his snaps. I was watching online, therefore I had a difficult time seeing anything in detail.

I'll do it in a minute. He didn't play that much.

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:25 PM
oh lookie-lookie i think i made someone angry. ROFL

I never get angry, so don't get all happy.

I just enjoy insulting fucking dumbasses.

I consider it my duty.

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:26 PM
I'll do it in a minute. He didn't play that much.

Cool.

kstater
09-07-2009, 05:28 PM
As I said in another thread, I think they'll get O'Callaghan up to speed on the playbook and put him at RT and slide Ndukwe over.

Mr. Krab
09-07-2009, 05:28 PM
I never get angry, so don't get all happy.

I just enjoy insulting fucking dumbasses.

I consider it my duty.
You screaming like a little an irrational bitch isn't much of an insult. He makes you look stupid more than anything.

Mr. Krab
09-07-2009, 05:29 PM
As I said in another thread, I think they'll get O'Callaghan up to speed on the playbook and put him at RT and slide Ndukwe over.
I dunno, they seem to be intent on Goff and Niswanger starting for some stupid reason. :doh!:

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:32 PM
As I said in another thread, I think they'll get O'Callaghan up to speed on the playbook and put him at RT and slide Ndukwe over.

This would be nice.

milkman
09-07-2009, 05:32 PM
You screaming like a little an irrational bitch isn't much of an insult. He makes you look stupid more than anything.

Screaming?

You think that's screaming?

LMAO

I use foul language for emphasis, but calling that screaming just illustrates further what a fucking dumbass you are.

THIS WOULD BE SCREAMING.

Make a note of that.

DBOSHO
09-07-2009, 05:32 PM
LMAO its true

GD i ****ing hate sackintosh. good riddance

KCrockaholic
09-07-2009, 05:34 PM
Screaming?

You think that's screaming?

LMAO

I use foul language for emphasis, but calling that screaming just illustrates further what a ****ing dumbass you are.

THIS WOULD BE SCREAMING.

Make a note of that.

People even get fired for TYPING LIKE THIS.

Raised On Riots
09-07-2009, 05:56 PM
O'Callaghan is a better run blocker than any of them, but he is worse than both McIntosh and Richardson in pass protect.

His feet move about as quickly as a cow stuck in the mud.

And Ndukwe is just fucking horrible.

He is the worst of the fucking bunch.

Leave Yngwie alone.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 06:01 PM
You don't have a fucking clue what I've seen, so go back to fucking your mother and shut the fuck up you useless little cock sucking dumbfuck.

http://www.mitchitized.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lolcano.gif

DBOSHO
09-07-2009, 06:03 PM
lol @ lolcano

KCtotheSB
09-07-2009, 06:06 PM
Some of you people overreact to the stupidest fuckin' shit....Christ almighty....

DBOSHO
09-07-2009, 06:09 PM
Some of you people overreact to the stupidest ****in' shit....Christ almighty....

HEY!

tmax63
09-07-2009, 06:51 PM
If Ndukwe is a decent guard then I can see them sliding him inside, Wanger gets help from having solid OL on each side of him and RB or TE thinks help on the right side every play. It's easier to help 1 OL than 3.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 07:03 PM
This, to me, is not ideal pass protection, and looks like something McIntosh would allow:

http://i29.tinypic.com/s6kj2v.gif

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 07:05 PM
This is no good at all. Terrible. Big fat butt is getting owned.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2lntzfb.gif

Raised On Riots
09-07-2009, 07:07 PM
Damnit Yngwie!:cuss:

Coogs
09-07-2009, 07:08 PM
O'Callaghan is a better run blocker than any of them, but he is worse than both McIntosh and Richardson in pass protect.

His feet move about as quickly as a cow stuck in the mud.

And Ndukwe is just fucking horrible.

He is the worst of the fucking bunch.

OK. If O'Callaghan is a run blocker, can we put a line together that could produce a run oriented team that could be able to do some passing as a result of the threat of the run?

I thought the first stringers were showing signs of being able to run the ball the last couple of games.

R&GHomer
09-07-2009, 07:08 PM
This is no good at all. Terrible. Big fat butt is getting owned.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2lntzfb.gif

:doh!: His lateral movement looks like he's playing in quicksand. He got powned!

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 07:10 PM
Thiggy gets it off, but this is bad, IMO:

http://i28.tinypic.com/330b7g7.gif

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 07:20 PM
FAIL

http://i27.tinypic.com/mx1pua.gif

rad
09-07-2009, 07:32 PM
That first step is whack.

DBOSHO
09-07-2009, 07:34 PM
like i know they are big boys but MOVE YOUR FUCKING ASS

RustShack
09-07-2009, 07:37 PM
Ndukwe needs to be our RG and O'Callaghan needs to be our RT. I haven't seen enough of Alleman to know if hes a better than Niswanger.

aturnis
09-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Maybe we'll get lucky and he's just been holding something back...:shrug: Too bad we can only hope though...

Micjones
09-07-2009, 08:42 PM
Ndukwe needs to be our RG and O'Callaghan needs to be our RT.

:thumb:

Chiefs=Good
09-07-2009, 09:18 PM
You know, what we really need is some O'Callaghan gifs Gochiefs... :D

boogblaster
09-07-2009, 09:23 PM
Haven't seen enough to really go one way or another ...

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 09:56 PM
You know, what we really need is some O'Callaghan gifs Gochiefs... :D

I download every preseason game just for you guys... :rolleyes:

The Bad Guy
09-07-2009, 10:05 PM
Kynan Forney is signing with Jacksonville.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 10:06 PM
Yes, Ladies and Gents, that's a third string LDE whipping his ass like a gov't mule.

DJ's left nut
09-07-2009, 10:33 PM
Jesus tits.

Folks, that was worse than Macintosh. That was startlingly terrible.

The man needs to be playing guard or stocking shelves somewhere. No tackle in the league is going to keep his QB alive with that kind of first step.

I'm really at a loss here, that was horrific.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 10:35 PM
Jesus tits.

Folks, that was worse than Macintosh. That was startlingly terrible.

The man needs to be playing guard or stocking shelves somewhere. No tackle in the league is going to keep his QB alive with that kind of first step.

I'm really at a loss here, that was horrific.

If he plays this poorly against the Ravens, he's getting the same treatment Pollard got.

GIF'D UP!

Raised On Riots
09-07-2009, 10:38 PM
I download every preseason game just for you guys... :rolleyes:

Hey, you should check in to the last two minutes of this Hurricane's / Seminoles game; BOTH sides have an RB that moves the pile and refuses to quit.

Just in case you've forgotten and all...

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 11:01 PM
I think it's pretty funny that a guy named "Ah You" was bitching our shitty right tackles.

It's almost like he was saying....AH! You! I can blow RIGHT PAST you!

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Jesus tits.

Folks, that was worse than Macintosh. That was startlingly terrible.

The man needs to be playing guard or stocking shelves somewhere. No tackle in the league is going to keep his QB alive with that kind of first step.

I'm really at a loss here, that was horrific.

It was definitely worth a draft pick.

Raised On Riots
09-07-2009, 11:07 PM
It was definitely worth a draft pick.

"PIOLI"!:D

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 11:10 PM
"PIOLI"!:D

http://i42.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg

Raised On Riots
09-07-2009, 11:11 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg


ROFL

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 11:11 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg

Live video from Pioli's office after Ryan O'Callaghan was signed!

Tribal Warfare
09-07-2009, 11:16 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg

what spurred the plethora of Tropic Thunder gifs fascination?

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-07-2009, 11:25 PM
what spurred the plethora of Tropic Thunder gifs fascination?

HBO....plus Pioli's resemblance to Les Grossman.

Count Alex's Wins
09-07-2009, 11:31 PM
God, there really is quite a resemblance. And I would bet dollars to donuts that Pioli has a pair of suspenders in his closet.

OnTheWarpath58
09-08-2009, 09:47 AM
Jesus tits.

Folks, that was worse than Macintosh. That was startlingly terrible.

The man needs to be playing guard or stocking shelves somewhere. No tackle in the league is going to keep his QB alive with that kind of first step.

I'm really at a loss here, that was horrific.

More horrific is that we traded for him.

Count Alex's Wins
09-08-2009, 02:38 PM
Spread the word. Ndukwe's a turd.

This, to me, is not ideal pass protection, and looks like something McIntosh would allow:

http://i29.tinypic.com/s6kj2v.gif

This is no good at all. Terrible. Big fat butt is getting owned.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2lntzfb.gif

Thiggy gets it off, but this is bad, IMO:

http://i28.tinypic.com/330b7g7.gif

FAIL

http://i27.tinypic.com/mx1pua.gif

Dave Lane
09-08-2009, 04:04 PM
So you think it should be...Albert,Waters,Niswanger,Ndukwe, then who at RT?

O'Callaghan?

DBOSHO
09-08-2009, 04:07 PM
im talkin G5 for the RUNYAN...i KNOWWW you want the goodies!