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POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 10:17 AM
1 Florida (56) 1-0 1493 1
2 Texas (2) 1-0 1424 2
3 USC 1-0 1355 4
4 Alabama (2) 1-0 1331 5
5 Oklahoma State 1-0 1201 9
6 Mississippi 1-0 1095 8
7 Penn State 1-0 1082 9
8 Ohio State 1-0 985 6
9 Brigham Young 1-0 984 20
10 California 1-0 971 12
11 LSU 1-0 890 11
12 Boise State 1-0 882 14
13 Oklahoma 0-1 782 3
14 Virginia Tech 0-1 652 7
15 Georgia Tech 1-0 630 15
16 TCU 0-0 523 17
17 Utah 1-0 404 19
18 Notre Dame 1-0 383 23
19 North Carolina 1-0 338 21
20 Miami (FL) 1-0 315 NR
21 Georgia 0-1 294 13
22 Nebraska 1-0 266 24
23 Cincinnati 1-0 248 NR
24 Kansas 1-0 196 25
25 Missouri 1-0 126 NR

Didn't take long for Mizzou to find their way back into the rankings. M-I-Z-Z-O-U!!!

jwazzie
09-08-2009, 10:19 AM
Seriously, Miami at 20? they will be out next week.

POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Seriously, Miami at 20? they will be out next week.

But haven't you heard? Miami and FSU are relevant football programs again. It was a good game but neither team looked that good.

KCtotheSB
09-08-2009, 10:22 AM
Why did Iowa fall out of the rankings? THEY WON!
1-0 is better than 0-1! Iowa > Oklahoma!!!!!!

......I don't even like Iowa.

beach tribe
09-08-2009, 10:23 AM
I know Western Kentucky is a joke, but Tennessee should be top 25 IMO.

Bob Dole
09-08-2009, 10:24 AM
Why did Iowa fall out of the rankings? THEY WON!
1-0 is better than 0-1! Iowa > Oklahoma!!!!!!

......I don't even like Iowa.

Sam Bradford won't be broke forever!

Pablo
09-08-2009, 10:25 AM
Cincy piss-pounded Rutgers so I don't mind them slipping ahead to 23, but I'd be happier if they had slipped ahead of NU.

CaliforniaChief
09-08-2009, 10:26 AM
Why did Iowa fall out of the rankings? THEY WON!
1-0 is better than 0-1! Iowa > Oklahoma!!!!!!

......I don't even like Iowa.

That was kind of what I was thinking. I guess having to block 2 field goals at the end to beat an FCS team isn't viewed as "rank-worthy."

Demonpenz
09-08-2009, 10:27 AM
Iowa's uniforms look like the steelers

El Chapo
09-08-2009, 10:28 AM
But haven't you heard? Miami and FSU are relevant football programs again. It was a good game but neither team looked that good.

Opponents are going to have trouble stopping Miami's skill position players, i.e. Javarris James, Craig Cooper, Adarius Johnson, Travis Benjamin. They are legit.

Buck
09-08-2009, 10:29 AM
Surprised that Georgia is still on this list.

Buck
09-08-2009, 10:30 AM
This list also begs that same ole question, with 3 MWC teams in the top 17, if BYU runs the table are they in the National Title game?

acesn8s
09-08-2009, 10:31 AM
We will see if Mizzou gets the bump in the rankings that ND got after they beat Nevada later this month.

POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 10:31 AM
Opponents are going to have trouble stopping Miami's skill position players, i.e. Javarris James, Craig Cooper, Adarius Johnson, Travis Benjamin. They are legit.

That's because their opponents are ACC teams. Their opponents would have trouble shutting down the Chiefs offense.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 10:34 AM
We got no love from the Coaches poll - they have us 27th.

I couldn't get it to post.

Mr. Krab
09-08-2009, 10:34 AM
Oklahoma should of dropped way down, even if it's just until Bradford gets back.

SNR
09-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Cincinnati is NOT a top 25 team. They beat Rutgers.... WOW!

88TG88
09-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Cincinnati is NOT a top 25 team. They beat Rutgers.... WOW!

ND at 18 is even worse.

Pablo
09-08-2009, 10:41 AM
ND at 18 is even worse.BYU at 9 is the worst.

KCtotheSB
09-08-2009, 10:41 AM
ND at 18 is even worse.

It's the same thing every year with Notre Dame...

:whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit::whackit:

Frazod
09-08-2009, 10:44 AM
ND at 18 is even worse.

They play Michigan next week. I'm not quite sure which school has the most obnoxious fans (and they're EVERYWHERE up here, too), but I generally root against the one that's ranked highest.

I also can't believe they have Nebraska ranked 18 in the Coaches poll. Oh well. We'll take care of that one in three weeks.

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 10:46 AM
They play Michigan next week. I'm not quite sure which school has the most obnoxious fans (and they're EVERYWHERE up here, too), but I generally root against the one that's ranked highest.

I also can't believe they have Nebraska ranked 18 in the Coaches poll. Oh well. We'll take care of that one in three weeks.

Look no further than MU fan...

:LOL:

Oh its football time Frazod, its on like Donkey Kong!

El Jefe
09-08-2009, 10:47 AM
Shoot I'm a Buckeye fan, but I wouldn't have been suprised if they dropped us to 10 our 11 with the way we played.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 10:49 AM
Look no further than MU fan...

:LOL:

Oh its football time Frazod, its on like Donkey Kong!

So who does Kansas play this week, the Wichita School of Beauty? :)

kchero
09-08-2009, 11:01 AM
So who does Kansas play this week, the Wichita School of Beauty? :)

Funny, but true.

Tuckdaddy
09-08-2009, 11:03 AM
MIZZOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! BIZNATCHES

El Chapo
09-08-2009, 11:03 AM
That's because their opponents are ACC teams. Their opponents would have trouble shutting down the Chiefs offense.

Just because Duke and Virginia lost to FCS schools, doesn't mean the entire ACC is shit. Both schools were projected to finish at the bottom of the Coastal division.

Nobody has yet to prove Miami, Florida State, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Clemson and Boston College are unworthy of praise. It's not like North Carolina State or Wake Forest embarrassed themselves in week one either.

Tuckdaddy
09-08-2009, 11:04 AM
BYU at 9 is the worst.

I agree. That's a big jump.

El Chapo
09-08-2009, 11:04 AM
Cincinnati is NOT a top 25 team. They beat Rutgers.... WOW!

Rutgers has gone bowling four straight seasons.

ArrowheadHawk
09-08-2009, 11:09 AM
So who does Kansas play this week, the Wichita School of Beauty? :)

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Pablo
09-08-2009, 11:10 AM
So who does Kansas play this week, the Wichita School of Beauty? :)We wanted to play the Missouri Academy for Orphaned Amputees but Mizzou has them all booked up next week.

kstater
09-08-2009, 11:10 AM
Rutgers has gone bowling four straight seasons.

That doesn't really mean much when you only have to win half your games.

MahiMike
09-08-2009, 11:11 AM
Any team that beats a team by more than 50 points should have their #1 ranking taken away.

El Chapo
09-08-2009, 11:14 AM
That doesn't really mean much when you only have to win half your games.

That doesn't apply in Rutgers' case.

2005: 7-5
2006: 11-2
2007: 8-5
2008: 8-5

wild1
09-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Why did Iowa fall out of the rankings? THEY WON!
1-0 is better than 0-1! Iowa > Oklahoma!!!!!!

......I don't even like Iowa.

Because they required divine intervention to not choke at home to Northern Iowa, a Missouri Valley team.

CoMoChief
09-08-2009, 11:20 AM
Surprised that Georgia is still on this list.

THEY ARE IN GOD'S CONFERENCE......the almighty SEC!!!!!!

DaKCMan AP
09-08-2009, 11:25 AM
This list also begs that same ole question, with 3 MWC teams in the top 17, if BYU runs the table are they in the National Title game?

They have a stronger schedule than Hawaii, Boise St or Utah had in past years. They played Oklahoma and still have Florida State, TCU and Utah on the schedule.

DaKCMan AP
09-08-2009, 11:26 AM
Any team that beats a team by more than 50 points should have their #1 ranking taken away.

ROFL

sedated
09-08-2009, 11:48 AM
its great to see the overrated Big Eleven towards the top of the polls. again.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 12:35 PM
Okay, now this is more like it. :D

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankings

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 12:40 PM
Okay, now this is more like it. :D

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankings

This is the year? To ship?

Frazod
09-08-2009, 12:48 PM
This is the year? To ship?

LMAO Even if I believed it (I don't) I'd never say it.

Swanman
09-08-2009, 01:41 PM
They have a stronger schedule than Hawaii, Boise St or Utah had in past years. They played Oklahoma and still have Florida State, TCU and Utah on the schedule.

It will be hard to deny BYU a berth in the title game if they run the table. The only situation I can think of would be if a team from the SEC and Big 12 both go undefeated, then they would obviously be in ahead of BYU.

There is a method to their scheduling madness. They figure they could go undefeated with a cupcake nonconf schedule and have no chance in hell of going to the title game. With their schedule this year, they have a real small chance of going undefeated, but if they do, they have a real decent shot of playing for the national title with nonconf wins against OU and FSU.

And all of their tough remaining games are at home, fwiw.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 01:48 PM
Movin on up

keg in kc
09-08-2009, 01:50 PM
Okay, now this is more like it. :D

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankingsMichigan's week 2 power ranking heading into the Notre Lame game?

69

LMAO

I don't care if they win another game all season. Just beat the ****ing golden gomers. Please.

vailpass
09-08-2009, 01:55 PM
Why did Iowa fall out of the rankings? THEY WON!
1-0 is better than 0-1! Iowa > Oklahoma!!!!!!

......I don't even like Iowa.

We almost lost at home to UNI. Sucks for the Hawks but it is best for the team if Iowa is not ranked too high too early.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 01:59 PM
Okay, now this is more like it. :D

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/powerRankings


Wait a minute....don't they realize Nebraska was good 15 years ago?

vailpass
09-08-2009, 02:10 PM
Wait a minute....don't they realize Nebraska was good 15 years ago?

Howdy Plow,
I'm not a Husker but Nebraska was a lot better than good, they were a dominant powerhouse for years. I don't know which school you back but I doubt their program has accomplished much more than what Nebraska has accomplished. The Huskers seem to be on their way to becoming a winner once again.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 02:13 PM
Howdy Plow,
I'm not a Husker but Nebraska was a lot better than good, they were a dominant powerhouse for years. I don't know which school you back but I doubt their program has accomplished much more than what Nebraska has accomplished. The Huskers seem to be on their way to becoming a winner once again.

LMAO

Carry over from other thread(s).....ignore me and move on.

vailpass
09-08-2009, 02:14 PM
LMAO

Carry over from other thread(s).....ignore me and move on.

:huh: Hanging my head in cross-thread-humor-fail shame.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 02:15 PM
:huh: Hanging my head in cross-thread-humor-fail shame.


ROFL

CrazyPhuD
09-08-2009, 02:37 PM
It will be hard to deny BYU a berth in the title game if they run the table. The only situation I can think of would be if a team from the SEC and Big 12 both go undefeated, then they would obviously be in ahead of BYU.

There is a method to their scheduling madness. They figure they could go undefeated with a cupcake nonconf schedule and have no chance in hell of going to the title game. With their schedule this year, they have a real small chance of going undefeated, but if they do, they have a real decent shot of playing for the national title with nonconf wins against OU and FSU.

And all of their tough remaining games are at home, fwiw.

Yes but even if they make it to the title game they'll get blown out by 50, and likely more. They played terrible in that game, and with any decent QB play by oklahoma and they would have won by likely two TDs or more. A wins a win, but unless BYU shows a much better team later in the season, no way are the NC contenders.

BWillie
09-08-2009, 02:42 PM
Shoot I'm a Buckeye fan, but I wouldn't have been suprised if they dropped us to 10 our 11 with the way we played.

Teams like OSU, USC, ND, Mich, and Texas won't lose ground if they win the way Iowa does. But Iowa doesn't have the luxury of the pollsters slobbing on their knob every year. Out of the above teams I mentioned, I actually don't think ND is not overrated this year. Clausen is going to have a break out year. They have had good recruiting classes the last 4 years, should be time to put it all together.

HemiEd
09-08-2009, 02:45 PM
Just as long as Mizzou is behind Kansas, things are pretty right with the world.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 02:47 PM
Just as long as Mizzou is behind Kansas, things are pretty right with the world.

Yes, you guys were impressive as hell against the Little Sisters of the Poor last week. :)

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 02:50 PM
Howdy Plow,
I'm not a Husker but Nebraska was a lot better than good, they were a dominant powerhouse for years. I don't know which school you back but I doubt their program has accomplished much more than what Nebraska has accomplished. The Huskers seem to be on their way to becoming a winner once again.

Plow doesn't know much about college football. Teams recruit on tradition and even though Nebraska football hasn't been great recently they still have double the # of wins KU does this decade and still out recruits most teams in the Big 12.

HemiEd
09-08-2009, 02:53 PM
Yes, you guys were impressive as hell against the Little Sisters of the Poor last week. :)

UNC Baby! Good thing Ryan Sims and Julius Peppers had already graduated.














o:-)

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Butch Davis is one of the best coaches in college.

KCChiefsMan
09-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Ohio State should have dropped down a little more

El Chapo
09-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Just as long as Mizzou is behind Kansas, things are pretty right with the world.

Gary Pinkel > Mark Mangino

keg in kc
09-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Teams like OSU, USC, ND, Mich, and Texas won't lose ground if they win the way Iowa does.I don't think I'd put Notre Dame or Michigan in that group now. They've both been bad enough for long enough that they drop like rocks when they lose.

HemiEd
09-08-2009, 02:59 PM
Gary Pinkel > Mark Mangino

You must be blind, Mangino is bigger than 3 Pinkels.

kepp
09-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Teams recruit on tradition

Too bad players don't play on tradition & coaches don't coach on tradition.

KCChiefsMan
09-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Gary Pinkel > Mark Mangino

ROFLROFL:LOL::LOL:LMAOLMAO

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 03:24 PM
Too bad players don't play on tradition & coaches don't coach on tradition.

MU a tradition since 2008...

POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 03:29 PM
MU a tradition since 2008...

It's funny reading that next to a KU basketball picture. The irony. Don't worry you might build a football tradition someday.

CoMoChief
09-08-2009, 03:31 PM
No ACC team should even be ranked right now.

What a piss poor division for football right now.

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 03:31 PM
It's funny reading that next to a KU basketball picture. The irony. Don't worry you might build a football tradition someday.

Funny, I didnt even know MU had a football tradition or claimed to have one until everyone got bent out of shape about KU and the Orange Bowl..


On a serious note? What decade was MU a powerhouse tradition? Hell we all know KU blows at football.. But on here. MU stands right next to the traditional powers of late. But not many outside of Missouri knew this was fact... Evidence would be nice...

Thanks!

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 03:33 PM
It's funny reading that next to a KU basketball picture. The irony. Don't worry you might build a football tradition someday.

Also...

KU is basketball tradition, proven fact... Anything KU football does it like a nice side dish to the big ribeye on the plate. Just makes the year that much better.

POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 03:37 PM
Funny, I didnt even know MU had a football tradition or claimed to have one until everyone got bent out of shape about KU and the Orange Bowl..



That's probably because you didn't realize the Big 12 even played football. You don't have to be a powerhouse to have tradition. I have not missed an MU football game in nearly 15 years. That's tradition. Did you even watch a KU football game before 2008?

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 03:37 PM
They play Michigan next week. I'm not quite sure which school has the most obnoxious fans (and they're EVERYWHERE up here, too), but I generally root against the one that's ranked highest.

I also can't believe they have Nebraska ranked 18 in the Coaches poll. Oh well. We'll take care of that one in three weeks.
Only if Va Tech doesn't get us first.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 03:39 PM
Only if Va Tech doesn't get us first.

The Chokies? Fuck them.

BWillie
09-08-2009, 03:40 PM
LOL @ Mizzou fans thinking they have a great football tradition.

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 03:42 PM
That's probably because you didn't realize the Big 12 even played football. You don't have to be a powerhouse to have tradition. I have not missed an MU football game in nearly 15 years. That's tradition. Did you even watch a KU football game before 2008?

Sadly, I started noticing KU football around the Glen Mason years.. Been following it ever since.

Been to alot of games over the years, many of an epic beat downs. But still a fan..


I havent missed a KU basketball game since Full Court and Direct TV. before then, I just had to catch them when I could. Living all over the country, it was news papers and espn to keep up.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 03:45 PM
The Chokies? **** them.
Yeah, I wish. I don't see this team getting out of Blacksburg with a win, there's too much inexperience at too many positions and Bo isn't going to outcoach Beamer.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 03:48 PM
LOL @ Mizzou fans thinking they have a great football tradition.

LOL @ Kansas fans invoking basketball smack in SEPTEMBER. LMAO

POND_OF_RED
09-08-2009, 03:52 PM
No one's saying Missouri is a powerhouse football tradition but to say that MU football has only had tradition since 2008 would be retarded. I can almost guarantee that 95% of Mizzou fans on this board know who Corby Jones is while probably only about 25% of the Kansas fans know who your last head coach was.

kepp
09-08-2009, 04:06 PM
MU a tradition since 2008...

Or you could actually try to THINK about the post in context and realize it doesn't really apply to MU or kU. It applies to NU (and Billay), at which it was directed.

Jewish Rabbi
09-08-2009, 04:24 PM
MU a tradition since 2008...

I don't think anyone believes they are a tradition... yet. Get thru the Gabbert era, see where they are then, see if we can get another top QB and be consistently in the Top 25. Right now we are just Iowa from early this decade.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 04:27 PM
Miami deserved to be ranked after that game last night.

CoMoChief
09-08-2009, 04:29 PM
No one's saying Missouri is a powerhouse football tradition but to say that MU football has only had tradition since 2008 would be retarded. I can almost guarantee that 95% of Mizzou fans on this board know who Corby Jones is while probably only about 25% of the Kansas fans know who your last head coach was.

LOL Corby Jones?!?!? really Chris? No one outside of the Big12 knows who the fuck that is. ROFL

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
Miami deserved to be ranked after that game last night.
Fine, put them at #25 then.

joesomebody
09-08-2009, 04:49 PM
Ahh the KU Basketball smack is arriving earlier and earlier every year, and after a Big 12 Tournament championship and an Elite Eight team ranked number 8 in the country at the end of the year it is even less relavent in the MU football conversations than it normally is.

Jewish Rabbi
09-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Ahh the KU Basketball smack is arriving earlier and earlier every year, and after a Big 12 Tournament championship and an Elite Eight team ranked number 8 in the country at the end of the year it is even less relavent in the MU football conversations than it normally is.

STFU

lostcause
09-08-2009, 05:08 PM
Corby made a dismal decade exciting... Honestly, if not for that one stupid endzone catch against the huskers he would be a missouri icon.

Miami does deserve to be ranked after the way they played last night. And Jacory will never be the best qb to wear a canes jersey, but that 40 yard pass to the corner of the end zone last night was pretty pretty pretty.

And I would take in a heartbeat being the Iowa of the early 2000's.

vailpass
09-08-2009, 05:22 PM
I don't think anyone believes they are a tradition... yet. Get thru the Gabbert era, see where they are then, see if we can get another top QB and be consistently in the Top 25. Right now we are just Iowa from early this decade.

You wish.

Coach
09-08-2009, 05:57 PM
It'll be a interesting week 2.

CoMoChief
09-08-2009, 05:59 PM
Corby made a dismal decade exciting... Honestly, if not for that one stupid endzone catch against the huskers he would be a missouri icon.

Miami does deserve to be ranked after the way they played last night. And Jacory will never be the best qb to wear a canes jersey, but that 40 yard pass to the corner of the end zone last night was pretty pretty pretty.

And I would take in a heartbeat being the Iowa of the early 2000's.

ROFL "The ball is tipped....." (To the One shining moment song)

Coach
09-08-2009, 05:59 PM
Miami deserved to be ranked after that game last night.

Sure, that's understandable. However, the ACC, as a conference, is just awful.

Coach
09-08-2009, 06:03 PM
LOL Corby Jones?!?!? really Chris? No one outside of the Big12 knows who the fuck that is. ROFL

You may want to re-evaluate your shit after I make this comment.

Corby Jones, number seven, played for Missouri from 1995 to 1998. He pretty much didn't get much playing time from '95 and '96. However, he was Missouri's starting QB in '97 and '98, posting a respective 7-5 and 8-4 records.

Also, Corby was (as well as other Missouri Tiger players) also responsible for providing Missouri a winning record since 13 years ago in 1997.

And yes, I did not look this up, and yes, I am not a Missouri fan.

JASONSAUTO
09-08-2009, 06:15 PM
You may want to re-evaluate your shit after I make this comment.

Corby Jones, number seven, played for Missouri from 1995 to 1998. He pretty much didn't get much playing time from '95 and '96. However, he was Missouri's starting QB in '97 and '98, posting a respective 7-5 and 8-4 records.

Also, Corby was (as well as other Missouri Tiger players) also responsible for providing Missouri a winning record since 13 years ago in 1997.

And yes, I did not look this up, and yes, I am not a Missouri fan.

do you remember harold piersey sp? i went to HS with him. who did jones split time with in 95 and 96?

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 06:23 PM
3 Big 12 North teams in the Top 25. I like it!

Sure-Oz
09-08-2009, 06:32 PM
Go Mizzou baby, i am hopefully mizzou basketball and football are solid for the next several years. Great 1st game

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 06:34 PM
Plow doesn't know much about college football. Teams recruit on tradition and even though Nebraska football hasn't been great recently they still have double the # of wins KU does this decade and still out recruits most teams in the Big 12.

Most teams? I would say that they are middle of the pack in terms of recruiting.

Oklahoma
Texas
Missouri
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Nebraska

I'd place the o/u on conference wins for Nebraska at 3.5. They have some nice pieces, but I can't think of one player on the Huskers that other teams fear.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 06:42 PM
Most teams? I would say that they are middle of the pack in terms of recruiting.

Oklahoma
Texas
Missouri
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Kansas
Nebraska

I'd place the o/u on conference wins for Nebraska at 3.5. They have some nice pieces, but I can't think of one player on the Huskers that other teams fear.

The hate for Nebraska is running at an all-time high on this board. Ever heard of this guy? He's a projected top 5 pick.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 06:47 PM
Look now if you want to be frank, Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State do not pull recruiting classes ranked as high as Nebraska's.

Oklahoma and Texas pull better ones, but saying those other teams pull better classes than Nebraska does just isn't true.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 06:50 PM
Look now if you want to be frank, Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State do not pull recruiting classes ranked as high as Nebraska's.

Oklahoma and Texas pull better ones, but saying those other teams pull better classes than Nebraska does just isn't true.

It didn't take long this season for Mizzou fans to go bonkers.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:14 PM
The hate for Nebraska is running at an all-time high on this board. Ever heard of this guy? He's a projected top 5 pick.

I don't hate Nebraska at all. I pull for them when they aren't playing Mizzou. Suh's a stud, but he doesn't impact a game the way that Colt McCoy does or the way that Dez Bryant does.

Nebraska gave up 34 points per game in conference play. To compete in the Big XII, you need offensive weapons because every team can score. I look at their season last year, and it looks like they really improved as the season progressed.

Then I look a little closer and realize that the quality of their competition decreased as the season progressed. 4 of the 5 conference wins came against teams in the bottom 5 of the conference: Iowa State, Colorado, K-State, and Baylor. The only good win was at home against Kansas who was a middle of the road team.

Any way you slice it, Nebraska of 2008 was a very mediocre team. You could be better in 2009, but your schedule is such that 4 conference wins is a good season.

I'll assume victories against Iowa State at home and Kansas State at home. You could easily lose 2 out of 3 at Kansas, at Baylor, and at Colorado. I don't see you winning at Missouri, against Oklahoma, or against Tech.

That looks like 3-4 wins to me. I'm not hating. Tell me where I'm wrong.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Plow doesn't know much about college football. Teams recruit on tradition and even though Nebraska football hasn't been great recently they still have double the # of wins KU does this decade and still out recruits most teams in the Big 12.


You're funny. Don't ever change man.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Look now if you want to be frank, Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State do not pull recruiting classes ranked as high as Nebraska's.

Oklahoma and Texas pull better ones, but saying those other teams pull better classes than Nebraska does just isn't true.

I'll take any one of those team's rosters over Nebraska's right now. I don't care how many stars you have next to your recruits' names. If you don't have a QB in the Big XII, you are an also-ran.

Look at the QBs who have played in the conference championship games. Tell me were Zach Lee stacks up.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:21 PM
I don't hate Nebraska at all. I pull for them when they aren't playing Mizzou. Suh's a stud, but he doesn't impact a game the way that Colt McCoy does or the way that Dez Bryant does.

Nebraska gave up 34 points per game in conference play. To compete in the Big XII, you need offensive weapons because every team can score. I look at their season last year, and it looks like they really improved as the season progressed.

Then I look a little closer and realize that the quality of their competition decreased as the season progressed. 4 of the 5 conference wins came against teams in the bottom 5 of the conference: Iowa State, Colorado, K-State, and Baylor. The only good win was at home against Kansas who was a middle of the road team.

Any way you slice it, Nebraska of 2008 was a very mediocre team. You could be better in 2009, but your schedule is such that 4 conference wins is a good season.

I'll assume victories against Iowa State at home and Kansas State at home. You could easily lose 2 out of 3 at Kansas, at Baylor, and at Colorado. I don't see you winning at Missouri, against Oklahoma, or against Tech.

That looks like 3-4 wins to me. I'm not hating. Tell me where I'm wrong.

Just admit that you fucked up with that last statement.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:22 PM
I'll take any one of those team's rosters over Nebraska's right now. I don't care how many stars you have next to your recruits' names. If you don't have a QB in the Big XII, you are an also-ran.

Look at the QBs who have played in the conference championship games. Tell me were Zach Lee stacks up.

You can't even spell his name correctly.

Ari Chi3fs
09-08-2009, 07:26 PM
The third fun season in a row... where KU and MU each have expectations...

Gonna be a good time this year

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 07:30 PM
Look now if you want to be frank, Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State do not pull recruiting classes ranked as high as Nebraska's.

Oklahoma and Texas pull better ones, but saying those other teams pull better classes than Nebraska does just isn't true.

According to Rivals:

This year's ranks (2010):
Texas - 1
Oklahoma - 3
aTm - 8
Okie Lite - 13
TT - 20
KU - 32
MU - 37
Baylor - 46
Nebraska - 47

2009:
Texas - 5
Oklahoma - 13
aTm - 22
Nebraska - 28
KU - 31
Oklahoma state - 36
Missouri - 40

2008:

Oklahoma - 6
Texas - 13
Colorado - 14
aTm - 15
MU - 25
K State 27
Nebraska - 30

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 07:30 PM
The third fun season in a row... where KU and MU each have expectations...

Gonna be a good time this yearI was thinking that today when I saw the AP rankings.

Already have my ticket to the game at Arrowhead. Should be a blast once again.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:32 PM
Just admit that you ****ed up with that last statement.

Tell me who Nebraska beats in conference. I didn't **** up anything. Suh is a terrific player. D-tackles in the Big XII aren't difference makers. Put him in the Big Ten, and maybe that's different. I'd love to have him in Black and Gold, but 7.5 sacks in a season, but he doesn't have the same impact as Todd Reesing, Zac Robinson, or even Robert Griffin.

Not one of those teams would trade their QB for him. Neither would Mizzou, Texas, or Oklahoma.

Skip Towne
09-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Look now if you want to be frank, Texas Tech, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma State do not pull recruiting classes ranked as high as Nebraska's.

Oklahoma and Texas pull better ones, but saying those other teams pull better classes than Nebraska does just isn't true.

OK, I'll be Frank. Who are you gonna be?

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:33 PM
Tell me who Nebraska beats in conference. I didn't **** up anything. Suh is a terrific player. D-tackles in the Big XII aren't difference makers. Put him in the Big Ten, and maybe that's different. I'd love to have him in Black and Gold, but 7.5 sacks in a season, but he doesn't have the same impact as Todd Reesing, Zac Robinson, or even Robert Griffin.

Not one of those teams would trade their QB for him. Neither would Mizzou, Texas, or Oklahoma.

Just stop before you dig yourself a bigger hole.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:33 PM
According to Rivals:

This year's ranks (2010):
Texas - 1
Oklahoma - 3
aTm - 8
Okie Lite - 13
TT - 20
KU - 32
MU - 37
Baylor - 46
Nebraska - 47

2009:
Texas - 5
Oklahoma - 13
aTm - 22
Nebraska - 28
KU - 31
Oklahoma state - 36
Missouri - 40

2008:

Oklahoma - 6
Texas - 13
Colorado - 14
aTm - 15
MU - 25
K State 27
Nebraska - 30

Wrong wrong wrong. Nebraska out-recruits most of the Big XII.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Just stop before you dig yourself a bigger hole.

Just tell me who they beat.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Just stop before you dig yourself a bigger hole.Uh, Sam?

Do you have anything to say to refute his points?

kstater
09-08-2009, 07:35 PM
Uh, Sam?

Do you have anything to say to refute his points?

You see, that's not really his style.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:36 PM
You can't even spell his name correctly.

I can spell Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, and Colt McCoy correctly.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:39 PM
I can spell Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, and Colt McCoy correctly.

It's hard to think you know much about a team when you can't spell the quarterback's name or recognize their best player.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
It's hard to think you know much about a team when you can't spell the quarterback's name or recognize their best player.

It's hard to take you seriously when you won't answer a simple question. Who do they beat?

Frazod
09-08-2009, 07:44 PM
Sam, here's the scoop.

We've beaten Nebraska three out of the past four years. The last two have been slaughters. We're beating you the way we beat Iowa State. What happened prior to that is kind of irrelevant at this point, since the players have all moved on.

Why should we take Nebraska seriously again until they show they deserve it?

Want some respect? STOP SUCKING.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:44 PM
It's hard to take you seriously when you won't answer a simple question. Who do they beat?

You showed your ignorance and then tried to change the subject. C'mon. I'm looking for nine wins.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:46 PM
Sam, here's the scoop.

We've beaten Nebraska three out of the past four years. The last two have been slaughters. We're beating you the way we beat Iowa State. What happened prior to that is kind of irrelevant at this point, since the players have all moved on.

Why should we take Nebraska seriously again until they show they deserve it?

Want some respect? STOP SUCKING.

We're pretty even right now.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:47 PM
You showed your ignorance and then tried to change the subject. C'mon. I'm looking for nine wins.

Tell me who they beat in conference.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 07:47 PM
It's hard to think you know much about a team when you can't spell the quarterback's name or recognize their best player.Are you seriously going down this road? First, you're just grasping at straws...

And second, people couldn't figure out Chase Daniel's name for three damned years. LMAO

Frazod
09-08-2009, 07:48 PM
We're pretty even right now.

Show me.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Show me.

1-0 = 1-0

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Show me.

The game this year is gonna be pretty close.

luv
09-08-2009, 07:52 PM
I love Big 12 North football talk on this board.

Sammy, one thing is for sure. No one can doubt your faith in your team.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:53 PM
The game this year is gonna be pretty close.

Superb analysis.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:54 PM
Superb analysis.

You guys are going crazy over this first game.

Sure-Oz
09-08-2009, 07:54 PM
I was thinking that today when I saw the AP rankings.

Already have my ticket to the game at Arrowhead. Should be a blast once again.

Did you actually get it already or ordered it? I ordered mine from the tigers site awhile ago.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 07:55 PM
You guys are going crazy over this first game.

I haven't seen any absurd predictions. I have upgraded my expectations from 7 wins to 8. I don't think anyone here is saying anything ridiculous.

Sure-Oz
09-08-2009, 07:56 PM
I have had the expectation that mizzou would win 8 games before the season started, i still stand by that as well.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 07:57 PM
Did you actually get it already or ordered it? I ordered mine from the tigers site awhile ago.Ordered... (Actually my buddy at work did.) This will be the third season in a row I've gone with the same couple of guys from work. It's becoming a tradition.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:58 PM
You guys are going crazy over this first game.

The last two years have been clear-the-bench type victories. I think Matt Kleinman threw a TD pass last year in your Homecoming game.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 07:58 PM
I have had the expectation that mizzou would win 8 games before the season started, i still stand by that as well.

It's not like we are saying the North is ours...I just think we are back in the conversation.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 07:59 PM
I haven't seen any absurd predictions. I have upgraded my expectations from 7 wins to 8. I don't think anyone here is saying anything ridiculous.

Except for that one guy who predicted 9 wins for the Huskers. He just won't say which 9.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 07:59 PM
The last two years have been clear-the-bench type victories. I think Matt Kleinman threw a TD pass last year in your Homecoming game.

I thought the past didn't matter?

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 07:59 PM
It's not like we are saying the North is ours...I just think we are back in the conversation.Exactly.

Mizzou fans had no idea what to expect. And suddenly we're pretty sure we've got a decent horse in this race after all.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:00 PM
It's not like we are saying the North is ours...I just think we are back in the conversation.

I'll say that we are the team to beat. I don't think that we are some big favorite, but we are the 2-time defending champs, and Gabbert officially put the rest of the North on notice.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:00 PM
Except for that one guy who predicted 9 wins for the Huskers. He just won't say which 9.

I expect that out of many Nebraska fans. I was strictly referring to Mizzou fans.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 08:01 PM
I thought the past didn't matter?

It matters when the players are still on the team, numbnuts. Not when they're retired from the NFL or have been selling insurance for 15 years.

Sure-Oz
09-08-2009, 08:01 PM
Ordered... (Actually my buddy at work did.) This will be the third season in a row I've gone with the same couple of guys from work. It's becoming a tradition.

Hope the weather is much better this time around, it was still fun. 2nd year in a row, i still wish i could've gotten tickets for the night game...but i had a great time watching on a huge screen with friends.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:02 PM
It matters when the players are still on the team, numbnuts. Not when they're retired from the NFL or have been selling insurance for 15 years.

I see. Mizzou fans still want to have their cake and eat it.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:03 PM
I thought the past didn't matter?

15 years ago doesn't matter. Last week does.

You can make predictions based on the recent history of these teams. It's hard to put a lot of stock into what Nebraska did in the 90s since that was about 9 coaches ago.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:05 PM
I see. Mizzou fans still want to have their cake and eat it.

Are you really trying to pretend that what happened in 1898 has as much relevance on the rest of this season as what happened last week?

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:05 PM
15 years ago doesn't matter. Last week does.

You can make predictions based on the recent history of these teams. It's hard to put a lot of stock into what Nebraska did in the 90s since that was about 9 coaches ago.

There it is again. See my last post.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:05 PM
3 Big 12 North teams in the Top 25. I like it!
But none in the top 20.


I don't hate Nebraska at all. I pull for them when they aren't playing Mizzou. Suh's a stud, but he doesn't impact a game the way that Colt McCoy does or the way that Dez Bryant does.

Nebraska gave up 34 points per game in conference play. To compete in the Big XII, you need offensive weapons because every team can score. I look at their season last year, and it looks like they really improved as the season progressed.

Then I look a little closer and realize that the quality of their competition decreased as the season progressed. 4 of the 5 conference wins came against teams in the bottom 5 of the conference: Iowa State, Colorado, K-State, and Baylor. The only good win was at home against Kansas who was a middle of the road team.

Any way you slice it, Nebraska of 2008 was a very mediocre team. You could be better in 2009, but your schedule is such that 4 conference wins is a good season.

I'll assume victories against Iowa State at home and Kansas State at home. You could easily lose 2 out of 3 at Kansas, at Baylor, and at Colorado. I don't see you winning at Missouri, against Oklahoma, or against Tech.

That looks like 3-4 wins to me. I'm not hating. Tell me where I'm wrong.
We'll get Tech this year. Other than that, you're probably right.


I thought the past didn't matter?
Apparently the only years that matter are the years that Mizzou beats us.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:05 PM
Except for that one guy who predicted 9 wins for the Huskers. He just won't say which 9.

Also, I think it is laughable that before the season started, Nebraska had written off the game in Columbia as a win. Like, there was not even any discussion that MAYBE Mizzou could have won on their home turf. It was a nub win - signed, sealed and delivered.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 08:06 PM
Are you really trying to pretend that what happened in 1898 has as much relevance on the rest of this season as what happened last week?

Probably. :rolleyes:

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Where'd Mecca go, BTW. Mizzou_8541 is probably looking for his shoe that was last seen buried in Mecca's ass.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:07 PM
I see. Mizzou fans still want to have their cake and eat it.I've gotta tell you man. Talking football with you is infuriating.

You don't say anything of substance, and when people (like Saul) present a polite, reasonable argument, you stick your fingers in your ears and go, "NAHHHHHHICANTHEARYOUNAHHHH!!!!"

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Are you really trying to pretend that what happened in 1898 has as much relevance on the rest of this season as what happened last week?
Ahhh...1898...I remember it like it was yesterday...


Won 8, Lost 3, Tied 0
Independent
Coach Fielding H. Yost

Date Opponent Site Result
10/01 Hastings Lincoln W 76-0
10/08 Iowa State Lincoln W 23-10
10/15 Tarkio Lincoln W 24-0
10/22 William Jewell Kansas City W 38-0
10/24 Missouri Columbia W 47-6
10/29 Grinnell Lincoln canceled
11/05 Kansas Lawrence W 18-6
11/07 KC Medics Kansas City L 0-24
11/12 Drake Lincoln L 5-6
11/17 Colorado Boulder W 23-10
11/19 Denver AC Denver W 11-10 (http://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Search&Key=MTO/1898/11/20/1/Ar00109.xml&CollName=MTO_Arc&DOCID=46889&PageLabelPrint=1&Skin=Colorado&AW=1240421538964&sPublication=AWP&sScopeID=DR&sSorting=Score%2cdesc&sQuery=Denver&rEntityType=&sSearchInAll=true&sDateFrom=%2531%2531%2f%2531%2537%2f%2531%2538%2539%2538&sDateTo=%2531%2531%2f%2532%2534%2f%2531%2538%2539%2538&RefineQueryView=&StartFrom=10&ViewMode=HTML)
11/24 Iowa Council Bluffs L 5-6
</pre>

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:09 PM
Apparently the only years that matter are the years that Mizzou beats us.

You don't see Mizzou fans spouting off to Texas or Oklahoma, do you? Maybe that's because the recent history shows that they have owned us. You know, the way you own Florida Atlantic.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:09 PM
LOL burried in my ass...what I see there is Nebraska averages higher rated recruiting classes and if you go back years before that they have top 10 classes.

You can go to this whole "I don't care about stars" argument if you want but that is a completely different argument.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:09 PM
Apparently the only years that matter are the years that Mizzou beats us.

I was in Lincoln last year for your homecoming game. I will never forget being ahead 52-10 and the stands being completely empty except for the 2,000 or so Mizzou fans. We actually cheered when you scored the last touchdown. It was a valiant effort.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
You don't see Mizzou fans spouting off to Texas or Oklahoma, do you? Maybe that's because the recent history shows that they have owned us. You know, the way you own Florida Atlantic.
Well, to be fair, there's not really any OU or UT fans here to spout off to.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Ahhh...1898...I remember it like it was yesterday...


Won 8, Lost 3, Tied 0
Independent
Coach Fielding H. Yost

Date Opponent Site Result
10/01 Hastings Lincoln W 76-0
10/08 Iowa State Lincoln W 23-10
10/15 Tarkio Lincoln W 24-0
10/22 William Jewell Kansas City W 38-0
10/24 Missouri Columbia W 47-6
10/29 Grinnell Lincoln canceled
11/05 Kansas Lawrence W 18-6
11/07 KC Medics Kansas City L 0-24
11/12 Drake Lincoln L 5-6
11/17 Colorado Boulder W 23-10
11/19 Denver AC Denver W 11-10 (http://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Search&Key=MTO/1898/11/20/1/Ar00109.xml&CollName=MTO_Arc&DOCID=46889&PageLabelPrint=1&Skin=Colorado&AW=1240421538964&sPublication=AWP&sScopeID=DR&sSorting=Score%2cdesc&sQuery=Denver&rEntityType=&sSearchInAll=true&sDateFrom=%2531%2531%2f%2531%2537%2f%2531%2538%2539%2538&sDateTo=%2531%2531%2f%2532%2534%2f%2531%2538%2539%2538&RefineQueryView=&StartFrom=10&ViewMode=HTML)
11/24 Iowa Council Bluffs L 5-6
</pre>

I think Skip threw a key block in the Tarkio game.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
I've gotta tell you man. Talking football with you is infuriating.

You don't say anything of substance, and when people (like Saul) present a polite, reasonable argument, you stick your fingers in your ears and go, "NAHHHHHHICANTHEARYOUNAHHHH!!!!"

That's what it's like for me to talk to you guys. Except I don't have anywhere near the amount of Huskers fans for support on this board.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:11 PM
This reminds me of the argument I had with a UCLA fan one day where he actually told me USC's downfall was they recruited to much talent.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:11 PM
I was in Lincoln last year for your homecoming game. I will never forget being ahead 52-10 and the stands being completely empty except for the 2,00o or so Mizzou fans. We actually cheered when you scored the last touchdown. It was a valiant effort.
I'm sure there were many years the same thing happened in Columbia, except I never wasted a day of my life going to that shithole to watch one of those drubbings. But those years don't count anyway.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm sure there were many years the same thing happened in Columbia, except I never wasted a day of my life going to that shithole to watch one of those drubbings. But those years don't count anyway.

That's like out in the Pac 10 you beat a team 99 out of 100 times and they think they are badass for the 1 win.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:13 PM
I'm sure there were many years the same thing happened in Columbia, except I never wasted a day of my life going to that shithole to watch one of those drubbings. But those years don't count anyway.

They think I'm a moron, yet they can't recognize Ndamukong Suh or spell Zac Lee's name correctly.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:13 PM
LOL burried in my ass...what I see there is Nebraska averages higher rated recruiting classes and if you go back years before that they have top 10 classes.

You can go to this whole "I don't care about stars" argument if you want but that is a completely different argument.

Over the last 3 years, they average 7th in the Big XII. I don't need to go back 5-10 years. That's ancient history in terms of the current rosters and even the NU coaches.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:14 PM
I'm sure there were many years the same thing happened in Columbia, except I never wasted a day of my life going to that shithole to watch one of those drubbings. But those years don't count anyway.

That's ok...believe me, it was great!

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:14 PM
LOL burried in my ass...what I see there is Nebraska averages higher rated recruiting classes and if you go back years before that they have top 10 classes.

You can go to this whole "I don't care about stars" argument if you want but that is a completely different argument.

Nebraska had a very highly ranked class in 2007, I think. Top 15 maybe. I threw that out as it was the end of the Callahan days. According to Sam Hall, they would rather forget those years so I obliged him.

luv
09-08-2009, 08:15 PM
They think I'm a moron, yet they can't recognize Ndamukong Suh or spell Zac Lee's name correctly.

You're not a moron. You just refuse to be objective.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:17 PM
They think I'm a moron, yet they can't recognize Ndamukong Suh or spell Zac Lee's name correctly.

I identified Suh in the next post, and Lee is a nobody. Tell me who you beat in conference. What makes you think that you are going to win a road game against a team who has outscored your team by 10 touchdowns over the last 2 seasons even after the mercy score in mop-up time?

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:18 PM
You're not a moron. You just refuse to be objective.

There it is again.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:18 PM
Tell me who Nebraska beats in conference. I didn't **** up anything. Suh is a terrific player. D-tackles in the Big XII aren't difference makers. Put him in the Big Ten, and maybe that's different. I'd love to have him in Black and Gold, but 7.5 sacks in a season, but he doesn't have the same impact as Todd Reesing, Zac Robinson, or even Robert Griffin.

Not one of those teams would trade their QB for him. Neither would Mizzou, Texas, or Oklahoma.

You don't watch much college football admit it. If you did you would see the 2 games he impacted last year and thats saying alot for a defensive end. For fucks sake he led the team in INTs.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 08:18 PM
I've gotta tell you man. Talking football with you is infuriating.

You don't say anything of substance, and when people (like Saul) present a polite, reasonable argument, you stick your fingers in your ears and go, "NAHHHHHHICANTHEARYOUNAHHHH!!!!"


Argue with billay for awhile. You'll appreciate Sam Hall more.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:20 PM
IMHO it's KU>MU&Nebraska. Nebraska on same level as MU. A lot of questions will be answered when Nebraska plays VT and if MU beats Bowling Green (you laugh, but Gary Pinkel is 0-2 against Bowling Green at Mizzou).

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:20 PM
When a guy is going to go top 10 in the NFL draft you can't really go "hey he doesn't impact games"

luv
09-08-2009, 08:21 PM
There it is again.

Then, by all means, would you just answer on who your nine wins will be?

Jewish Rabbi
09-08-2009, 08:21 PM
They think I'm a moron, yet they can't recognize Ndamukong Suh or spell Zac Lee's name correctly.

Because spelling is, always has been, and always will be, the truest test of knowledge on the internet.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:22 PM
haha Mizzou and Ku are better than Nebraska. There it is. See all these people live around the Kansas City area so all they hear about how great Mizzou and Ku are. Get outside your bubble and you'll figure out nobody gives a fuck about either program and Nebraska is the superior team. Every program has its down years Alabama, Usc, Ou, ect.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:22 PM
Nebraska had a very highly ranked class in 2007, I think. Top 15 maybe. I threw that out as it was the end of the Callahan days. According to Sam Hall, they would rather forget those years so I obliged him.

Let's not forget that the numbers are probably skewed by the fact that Nebraska lost Gabbert and Hoch to Mizzou.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
That's ok...believe me, it was great!
And the reason it was great...?

Ooh, let me guess...it's because it was payback for all the ass-kickings you got IN THE PAST from Nebraska!

All of a sudden the past DOES matter!

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
Because spelling is, always has been, and always will be, the truest test of knowledge on the internet.

It showed that he was ignorant about the player he was ripping.

Tiger's Fan
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
I'll say that we are the team to beat. I don't think that we are some big favorite, but we are the 2-time defending champs, and Gabbert officially put the rest of the North on notice.

I'm pretty sure you can't post something like this while calling someone else a little homerish.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
Let's not forget that the numbers are probably skewed by the fact that Nebraska lost Gabbert and Hoch to Mizzou.

And you are leaving out the fact Nebraska recruited a 4 star QB whos 6'4 and runs a 4.4. No loss there.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
Argue with billay for awhile. You'll appreciate Sam Hall more.Aint that the truth.

I do realize that every team has reasonable fans and well, some that aren't so reasonable.

luv
09-08-2009, 08:24 PM
I came in to this conversation late. Are we talking overall program or current?

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:24 PM
I don't think KU, Mizzou and Nebraska have answered any of the questions that were facing them when the season began.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Whats funny is Missouri hasn't won a title in any sport that matters.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:25 PM
IMHO it's KU>MU&Nebraska. Nebraska on same level as MU. A lot of questions will be answered when Nebraska plays VT and if MU beats Bowling Green (you laugh, but Gary Pinkel is 0-2 against Bowling Green at Mizzou).

Not when he coached Mizzou, I don't think. I think that was before he came here.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:25 PM
I came in to this conversation late. Are we talking overall program or current?Depends on who you root for...lol ;)

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:25 PM
I came in to this conversation late. Are we talking overall program or current?
I'm not really sure what we're arguing about at this point, it's pretty much turned into a poo-flinging contest.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:25 PM
Aint that the truth.

I do realize that every team has reasonable fans and well, some that aren't so reasonable.

Go ahead and post where I wasn't reasonable. I'd hate to let facts get in the way of the truth. Like the fact Nebraska has won more games this decade than both KU & Mizzou. And has recruited better than both schools.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:26 PM
I came in to this conversation late. Are we talking overall program or current?

Mizzou fans are talking current. Nebraska fans are talking 1990s.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:27 PM
A million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years still can't tell me who Nebraska beats to get 9 wins.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Mizzou fans are talking current. Nebraska fans are talking 1990s.

Yea currently Mizzou hasn't won shit just like the past. How bout that. Congrats on beating a 5-7 team with there best player being injured most the game.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Not when he coached Mizzou, I don't think. I think that was before he came here.It was 2001 and 2002... heard about it on the radio today.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:27 PM
And the reason it was great...?

Ooh, let me guess...it's because it was payback for all the ass-kickings you got IN THE PAST from Nebraska!

All of a sudden the past DOES matter!

Because seeing thousands of butt-hurt Nebraska fans (such as yourself) go home absolutely destroyed made the 4-hour trip completely worthwhile.

But it's ok, I was also in Austin for the MU - Texas game, on my birthday no less. Karma is a bitch!

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:27 PM
Go ahead and post where I wasn't reasonable. I've only got so much time, man... I do have to work tomorrow.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:28 PM
Mizzou fans are talking current. Nebraska fans are talking 1990s.
OK, in the 2000s, NU still has a winning record against MU. Put that shit in your pipe and smoke it.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:29 PM
The Huskers will get to nine wins by beating Mizzou at the very end and winning their bowl game.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:29 PM
A million monkeys typing on a million keyboards for a million years still can't tell me who Nebraska beats to get 9 wins.

They won 9 games last year they'll win that many this year.

Florida Atlantic
Arkansas State
Ul Lafayette
Mizzou
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Baylor
Ku
Kstate
Colorado

Bowl game

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:30 PM
OK, in the 2000s, NU still has a winning record against MU. Put that shit in your pipe and smoke it.

How about who has the best program right now? Just a thought.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:30 PM
I've only got so much time, man... I do have to work tomorrow.

Because you can't there isn't any. Like most on this board you just talk out of your ass. Funny how much hate I get when talking football I post proof. Wheres your proof?

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:30 PM
They won 9 games last year they'll win that many this year.

Florida Atlantic
Arkansas State
Ul Lafayette
Mizzou
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Baylor
Ku
Kstate
Colorado

Bowl gamePRINT 'EM!

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 08:31 PM
And has recruited better than both schools.


Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.



According to Rivals:

This year's ranks (2010):
Texas - 1
Oklahoma - 3
aTm - 8
Okie Lite - 13
TT - 20
KU - 32
MU - 37
Baylor - 46
Nebraska - 47

2009:
Texas - 5
Oklahoma - 13
aTm - 22
Nebraska - 28
KU - 31
Oklahoma state - 36
Missouri - 40

2008:

Oklahoma - 6
Texas - 13
Colorado - 14
aTm - 15
MU - 25
K State 27
Nebraska - 30

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:31 PM
They won 9 games last year they'll win that many this year.

Florida Atlantic
Arkansas State
Ul Lafayette
Mizzou
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Baylor
Ku
Kstate
Colorado

Bowl game

So you've got Nebraska winning 11 games? Let me guess...you had them beating USC a couple of years ago, too.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:31 PM
They won 9 games last year they'll win that many this year.

Florida Atlantic
Arkansas State
Ul Lafayette
Mizzou
Texas Tech
Iowa State
Baylor
Ku
Kstate
Colorado

Bowl game

Lay off the drugs, man. That's too optimistic.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

It takes more than 2 years to build a program why don't you post 2006 and 2007 classes?

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:32 PM
I was pointing out which games are winnable yes they can win as many as 11. Likely will win 9 or 10.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Because seeing thousands of butt-hurt Nebraska fans (such as yourself) go home absolutely destroyed made the 4-hour trip completely worthwhile.

But it's ok, I was also in Austin for the MU - Texas game, on my birthday no less. Karma is a bitch!
I wasn't at that game, I gave up my tix after the 2002 season. And don't get me started on Texas, the only loss I ever walked away from at Memorial Stadium was against those fugging goat-ropers.

luv
09-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Because you can't there isn't any. Like most on this board you just talk out of your ass. Funny how much hate I get when talking football I post proof. Wheres your proof?

You're talking overall program, he's talking the last few years.

It's kind of entertaining watching an argument occur when the sides are arguing for completely different things.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:33 PM
All of those north teams are the same the difference between Nebraska and Missouri or Kansas is, they'll likely even in bad years never fade into complete obscurity or into a team that isn't atleast somewhat relevelant.

Missouri or Kansas isn't in that position yet they could pull a Kstate.

Mr. Plow
09-08-2009, 08:33 PM
It takes more than 2 years to build a program why don't you post 2006 and 2007 classes?

Because Mizzou_8541 didn't go back that far.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:33 PM
The Huskers will get to nine wins by beating Mizzou at the very end and winning their bowl game.

That is one team that they will beat and then you are predicting a win against some theoretical opponent. That's absolutely classic.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:33 PM
And right now Nebraska must be better than Missouri. Nebraska is ranked 22nd Missouri 25. / Game over

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:34 PM
Lay off the drugs, man. That's too optimistic.See? Now that's a reasonable post.

And nobody's saying NU sucks... Hell, I think they're on the rise. I just don't think it's a given that they'll suddenly start piss-pounding Mizzou and KU again.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:34 PM
And right now Nebraska must be better than Missouri. Nebraska is ranked 22nd Missouri 25. / Game overLMAO

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
All of those north teams are the same the difference between Nebraska and Missouri or Kansas is, they'll likely even in bad years never fade into complete obscurity or into a team that isn't atleast somewhat relevelant.

Missouri or Kansas isn't in that position yet they could pull a Kstate.

Now I know what its like around the draft time. People don't know shit about college football on here. It's like a comedian telling one bad joke after another.

Tiger's Fan
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
Go ahead and post where I wasn't reasonable. I'd hate to let facts get in the way of the truth. Like the fact Nebraska has won more games this decade than both KU & Mizzou. And has recruited better than both schools.

I think it's more because you're exceptionally stupid.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
That is one team that they will beat and then you are predicting a win against some theoretical opponent. That's absolutely classic.

Look at their regular season schedule and tell me how else they get nine wins.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
I think it's more because you're exceptionally stupid.

Leave it up to a KU student to bring the frat boy humor. :shake:

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
I wasn't at that game, I gave up my tix after the 2002 season. And don't get me started on Texas, the only loss I ever walked away from at Memorial Stadium was against those fugging goat-ropers.

Not only was it brutal, I was seriously afraid I was going to get my ass kicked. Two drunk Texas fans approached my wife and I telling me to get the "F" out of their state.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
All of those north teams are the same the difference between Nebraska and Missouri or Kansas is, they'll likely even in bad years never fade into complete obscurity or into a team that isn't atleast somewhat relevelant.

Missouri or Kansas isn't in that position yet they could pull a Kstate.

The biggest advantage Missouri has is that they have a lot more in-state talent and no other D-I schools in the state. Missouri could pull a K-State, but it seems unlikely. K-State went the JUCO route. Missouri has put up a wall around the state and managed to snag some Texas talent.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
I think it's more because you're exceptionally stupid.LMAO

You get right to the point, don't you.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Not only was it brutal, I was seriously afraid I was going to get my ass kicked. Two drunk Texas fans approached my wife and I telling me to get the "F" out of their state.

Really? I heard Colorado fans are pretty bad.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:38 PM
How about who has the best program right now? Just a thought.
Who knows? It's still to early to say for sure, and last year doesn't count because it's in the past.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:38 PM
I'm waiting for Saul to look at Nebraska's schedule and tell me how else Nebraska gets nine wins.

Tiger's Fan
09-08-2009, 08:38 PM
LMAO

You get right to the point, don't you.

I thought it was pretty obvious. :p

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:38 PM
If the past doesn't count and we're talking about right now look at the rankings. That answers the question. Thanks for playing Mizzou fans.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:39 PM
I wasn't at that game, I gave up my tix after the 2002 season. And don't get me started on Texas, the only loss I ever walked away from at Memorial Stadium was against those fugging goat-ropers.

Part of my hatred from Nebraska also stems from the 1997 kicked ball game in Columbia. I was making my way on the field as reality set in.

I effing hate Matt Davidson. :evil:

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:40 PM
The biggest advantage Missouri has is that they have a lot more in-state talent and no other D-I schools in the state. Missouri could pull a K-State, but it seems unlikely. K-State went the JUCO route. Missouri has put up a wall around the state and managed to snag some Texas talent.

If any of the other Texas schools become good, like TCU's rise or if June Jones does a good job at SMU it could affect the Big 12, if any of those schools start losing out on a few Texas players it affects all the teams.

I'm kind of interested to see what happens with the future of the spread.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:40 PM
I think Saulgood was the dude who ran onto the field the year Mizzou won and got clocked by the Nebraska player. Explains why he's such a douche rocket.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Really? I heard Colorado fans are pretty bad.

I have heard that. I personally don't know.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:41 PM
Colorado fans are high, they probably just sit there eating chips and drinking soda.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Not only was it brutal, I was seriously afraid I was going to get my ass kicked. Two drunk Texas fans approached my wife and I telling me to get the "F" out of their state.
That's effed up. I've heard some horror stories about Columbia, that's why I've never gone down there, it only takes a couple drunk a-holes to cause problems. I've been to Norman, Lawrence and Stillwater and never had any trouble whatsoever. I'd also NEVER consider going to Boulder, those fans are by far the worst.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Gotta love college football. 9:41 on a Tuesday night, and we're here having heated exchanges about games that won't happen for weeks (or months). Good times.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:43 PM
If the past doesn't count and we're talking about right now look at the rankings. That answers the question. Thanks for playing Mizzou fans.
ROFL Owned.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:43 PM
C'mon, Saul. Answer my question since I answered yours.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:44 PM
ROFL Owned.Really? C'mon, Bug.

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:44 PM
Part of my hatred from Nebraska also stems from the 1997 kicked ball game in Columbia. I was making my way on the field as reality set in.

I effing hate Matt Davidson. :evil:
psst...it's "Davison"

just want to give you a heads-up before Sam sees that

Bugeater
09-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Really? C'mon, Bug.
Well he's right, if we're talking about RIGHT NOW. No?

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Did Walker Ashburn confirm he'll play for Nebraska? I know he's only a 3 star recruit but 6'3 d-end with a 4.75 40 seems like an athlete.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:46 PM
Look at their regular season schedule and tell me how else they get nine wins.

I don't think they will get nine wins. That's your prediction, not mine.

I set the over/under on 3.5 conference wins. I'll give you 3 non-conference wins. That puts you in a bowl game against some unknown opponent. There's another .5 wins. I'll set your o/u for the season at 7 wins.

Is 7-6 a crazy prediction given your schedule?

3 cupcakes in the non-conference and a loss to Va Tech. 3-1

Victories against Iowa State and K-State at home. 5-1.

1 win in road games against Baylor, Kansas and Colorado. 6-3

0.5 wins against Mizzou on the road, Oklahoma at home, and Texas Tech at home. 6.5-5.5

0.5 wins against an unknown opponent in a bowl game. 7-6

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:47 PM
psst...it's "Davison"

just want to give you a heads-up before Sam sees that

I think they should at least have a little more knowledge about the Huskers if they're going to scrutinize them.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:47 PM
That's effed up. I've heard some horror stories about Columbia, that's why I've never gone down there, it only takes a couple drunk a-holes to cause problems. I've been to Norman, Lawrence and Stillwater and never had any trouble whatsoever. I'd also NEVER consider going to Boulder, those fans are by far the worst.

I actually had a really good time in Lincoln. Fans were great except for the t-shirt salesman outside the stadium. He was selling some really classy shirts (they could have been the "muck fizzou" shirts). I told him he was really classy. After the game I walked past him again and he was selling an equally classy shirt for the next week when you were playing Iowa State.

I'm sure Mizzou has it's share. I think the 2007 game is what you could be referring to. Nebraska was coming in unbeaten, as was Mizzou. A night game on ESPN. People had been drinking all day. Never a good recipe for upstanding fanmanship.

DJ's left nut
09-08-2009, 08:47 PM
ND is often overrated.

However, they're a little underrated at 18 right now, IMO. Clausen is a very very good QB, they have fantastic skill players and they have experience on both lines.

That's a very dangerous football team, they absolutely deserve that rank.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:48 PM
psst...it's "Davison"

just want to give you a heads-up before Sam sees that

I'm trying to forget it...but it was 1997!

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:48 PM
I don't think they will get nine wins. That's your prediction, not mine.

I set the over/under on 3.5 conference wins. I'll give you 3 non-conference wins. That puts you in a bowl game against some unknown opponent. There's another .5 wins. I'll set your o/u for the season at 7 wins.

Is 7-6 a crazy prediction given your schedule?

3 cupcakes in the non-conference and a loss to Va Tech. 3-1

Victories against Iowa State and K-State at home. 5-1.

1 win in road games against Baylor, Kansas and Colorado. 6-3

0.5 wins against Mizzou on the road, Oklahoma at home, and Texas Tech at home. 6.5-5.5

0.5 wins against an unknown opponent in a bowl game. 7-6

You didn't answer the question.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:49 PM
C'mon, Saul. Answer my question since I answered yours.

Why do you keep asking me to predict how Nebraska gets 9 wins? Why don't you ask me to predict how the Chiefs get 12 wins?

I don't think that Nebraska gets 9 wins. How can I be any more clear about that? You are the one arguing that Nebraska is back, not me.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:50 PM
You didn't answer the question.

What Effing Question?

You have literally asked me 5 times to predict how something that I don't think is going to happen is going to happen.

Sure-Oz
09-08-2009, 08:51 PM
Miami and Florida State are back!

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:51 PM
Miami and Florida State are back!

It'd be nice if they were, those teams being good is good for college football.

Sam Hall
09-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Why do you keep asking me to predict how Nebraska gets 9 wins? Why don't you ask me to predict how the Chiefs get 12 wins?

I don't think that Nebraska gets 9 wins. How can I be any more clear about that? You are the one arguing that Nebraska is back, not me.

You just refuse to understand that nobody has answered the questions they had before the season. I have a right to be optimistic like everyone else in this thread. Nebraska won their opener 49-3 when the spread was 23 points.

Chocolate Hog
09-08-2009, 08:53 PM
It'd be nice if they were, those teams being good is good for college football.

I wanted Nebraska to hire Butch Davis. Look at all the talent he brought to Miami and now North Carolina.

Mizzou_8541
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
You just refuse to understand that nobody has answered the questions they had before the season. I have a right to be optimistic like everyone else in this thread. Nebraska won their opener 49-3 when the spread was 23 points.

Absolutely!

I think Saul is just wondering how he is supposed to predict Nebraska getting 9 wins (as you suggest) when he doesn't think that Neb. can get 9 wins.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Butch Davis can obviously recruit there's never been a question about that.

Saul Good
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
It'd be nice if they were, those teams being good is good for college football.

Yeah. We need more bluebloods at the top. Right now, the top 10 teams only have Florida, Texas, USC, Alabama, Penn State, Ohio State, and LSU. That still leaves room for Miami, Florida State, and Notre Dame.