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LaChapelle
09-08-2009, 08:51 PM
2nd place could be a blood bath

SD 12-4
KC 4-12
OK 4-12
DN 3-13

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview09/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=4446985

John_Wayne
09-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Looks more like a mud bath.

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.They do every season.

KCUnited
09-08-2009, 08:53 PM
Smeagol sounds about right too me.

milkman
09-08-2009, 08:53 PM
WooooHoooooooo!

We're second best in the west!

SNR
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.Well, they get 6 free wins just by playing the division to start...

LaChapelle
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

7 bye weeks?

SNR
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
WooooHoooooooo!

We're second best in the west!First is the worst. Second is the best. Third is the one with the hairy chest.

BWillie
09-08-2009, 08:55 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

Why? They get to play 3 of the worst teams in the NFL twice.

Frazod
09-08-2009, 08:56 PM
7 bye weeks?

LMAO

rockymtnchief
09-08-2009, 08:56 PM
I don't think S.D. is THAT good. The other three teams records look,sadly enough, doable.

Friendo
09-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

agreed...with a melt-down not out of the realm of possibility

2bikemike
09-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

They get the love for their roster. But I agree the coaching will knock em down a few pegs. I would have to say they have been the most under achieving team of the decade.

Der Flöprer
09-08-2009, 08:58 PM
LOL Norv Turner will have that team play 8 win football this year. He can't help himself.

JohninGpt
09-08-2009, 08:59 PM
2nd place could be a blood bath

"You take it."
"No, you"
"No, I insist"
"No, I insist"

Goldmember
09-08-2009, 09:05 PM
Remember when we used to laugh at the perennial doormat Chargers, while the rest of the division was doing well?? that seems so long ago

LaChapelle
09-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Warren Moon remembers.

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:09 PM
Warren Moon remembers.

Chargers were in the SB while Moon was still playing.

2bikemike
09-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Warren Moon remembers.

I will never forget that game. That was probably the most embarassed I have been as a Chiefs Fan. :banghead:

milkman
09-08-2009, 09:10 PM
LOL Norv Turner will have that team play 8 win football this year. He can't help himself.

I think that Rivers and Ron Rivera save Turner's ass this year.

The Chargers defense really improved after Ted Cottrell was fired and Rivera replaced him, and Rivers is ready to step up to the next level.

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

They don't get love. They get "the window's closing, the window's closing, the sky is falling".

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:12 PM
I think that Rivers and Ron Rivera save Turner's ass this year.

The Chargers defense really improved after Ted Cottrell was fired and Rivera replaced him, and Rivers is ready to step up to the next level.

Turner shaped Rivers as he shaped Aikman.

Agree that Rivera's D will be dominant w/ or w/o Merriman.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 09:14 PM
The Chargers are getting love because that schedule entails essentially 9 free wins.

OnTheWarpath58
09-08-2009, 09:15 PM
The Chargers are getting love because that schedule entails essentially 9 free wins.

That, and they have a shit-ton of talent on their roster.

stevieray
09-08-2009, 09:16 PM
AFC WEST blows.

sad, really.

Mecca
09-08-2009, 09:17 PM
Actually it's more like 10..

They have
Oakland
Denver
KC

There's 6 mixed with
Cincy
Cleveland
Miami
Washington

So if they can win 2 of these games
Giants
Eagles
Cowboys
Steelers
Ravens
Titans

You got 12-4

RustShack
09-08-2009, 09:20 PM
2 of the Chargers 4 losses will be against the Chiefs, who will end up going undefeated. Bill help Pioli back from the perfect season, he can do it here now without him.

JD10367
09-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Egghead Jr.

BigMeatballDave
09-08-2009, 09:23 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.Well, 6 of their wins could come from the rest of the west.

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:27 PM
I cannot express how much I love this board and the vast majority of Chief fans.
A Donkey board would be piled "Mile High" with unrealistic homers predicting Super Bowl glory for this season. While Chief fans are aware of their situation and looking toward the future.
There is no need to defend the Chargers here as the level headed football fans on this board quickly stamp out any Donk or Turd hate mail.

Thank you.

KC Jones
09-08-2009, 09:27 PM
I hate to say it, but despite the lack of Cutler and the terrible offseason, I think Denver will put together more wins than either us or the Raiders.

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:29 PM
I hate to say it, but despite the lack of Cutler and the terrible offseason, I think Denver will put together more wins than either us or the Raiders.

I don't see how. Care to explain?

stevieray
09-08-2009, 09:30 PM
I don't see how. Care to explain?

refs

Gadzooks
09-08-2009, 09:32 PM
refs
:LOL:
Still hurts:banghead:

KC Jones
09-08-2009, 09:44 PM
I don't see how. Care to explain?

Yeah, their o-line is decent and their defense is much improved in my opinion. I went to their last preseason game against Arizona and they looked good. (You may be wondering why I a lifelong Chiefs fan would go to a Donkey preseason game. The answer is that it was free, and I felt it was a good warmup for my son to try going to a game before I buy him a ticket for the January Chiefs game here in Denver.)

boogblaster
09-08-2009, 09:54 PM
SD..10-6
Dung..6-10
KC..5-11
Faid..4-12

SNR
09-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Yeah, their o-line is decent and their defense is much improved in my opinion. I went to their last preseason game against Arizona and they looked good. (You may be wondering why I a lifelong Chiefs fan would go to a Donkey preseason game. The answer is that it was free, and I felt it was a good warmup for my son to try going to a game before I buy him a ticket for the January Chiefs game here in Denver.)Maybe. But so far all football fans should safely assume that Josh McDaniels is a dumbass. Like, he receives a rating of Herm Edwards on the Scale of Dumbassery.

We'll see, I guess.

DeezNutz
09-08-2009, 10:03 PM
That, and they have a shit-ton of talent on their roster.

But, aside from this, why do they get so much love?

keg in kc
09-08-2009, 10:05 PM
San Diego is like the little engine that could....find a way not to win anything despite all the talent in the world.

Maybe this year.

JOhn
09-08-2009, 10:05 PM
SD..10-6
KC..6-10
Dung..5-11
Faid..4-12

FYP ;)

JD10367
09-08-2009, 10:16 PM
I think the Chargers will win 12, 11 at worst. They have an easy schedule.

The Chiefs, it's tough to call. Somewhere between 6 and 9 wins. Whatever it is, it'll be good enough for 2nd in the division, 'cause the Broncos will win 5 or 6, and the Raiders 4 or 5.

soundmind
09-08-2009, 11:01 PM
San Diego: 11-5
Kansas City: 5-11 (Oakland, Denver 2x, Cleveland, Buffalo)
Oakland: 5-11
Denver: 2-14 (after the first 3 games, I'm not sure where they get another one...)

Also, Detroit wins 5 games this year despite Gun's D giving up 30 per.

XXXshogunXXX
09-09-2009, 05:39 AM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

because john clayton isnt a typical poster from chiefsplanet that doesnt live in 2003

PhillyChiefFan
09-09-2009, 06:03 AM
wow that is pathetic

Chiefs=Good
09-09-2009, 06:12 AM
That seems about right.. though i think Chokeland can get a couple more wins...

Inspector
09-09-2009, 06:37 AM
4 wins?

4 WINS????

Is there more than just one KC Chiefs team? I have a difficult time finding 4 wins for the Chiefs team I follow.

Seems pretty optimistic to me. I'll enjoy the ride just the same.

InChiefsHell
09-09-2009, 07:13 AM
I think there's a good chance we match the wins from the last 2 seasons combined...6-10 for the Chiefs this year. Hopefully many of those wins come towards the end of the season...

TEX
09-09-2009, 07:40 AM
4 wins?

4 WINS????

Is there more than just one KC Chiefs team? I have a difficult time finding 4 wins for the Chiefs team I follow.

Seems pretty optimistic to me. I'll enjoy the ride just the same.

Exactly. I see more lke 2 or 3 max.

Bolts 10-6
Donx 5-11
Faid 3-13
Chiefs 2-14

Bottom two can flip-flop.

Kerberos
09-09-2009, 09:44 AM
So where is BLOWMO to tell us how wrong John Clayton is and how AbOrton is going to pass the Donks to a 11-5 season, go to the playoffs and make the probowl?

Frazod
09-09-2009, 09:49 AM
because john clayton isnt a typical poster from chiefsplanet that doesnt live in 2003

Yeah, well, congratulations on all your recent playoff success - oh wait. Nevermind.

Paniero
09-09-2009, 10:04 AM
As though division games against weak teams were easy...

Chiefs fans should know this well.

XXXshogunXXX
09-09-2009, 01:29 PM
Yeah, well, congratulations on all your recent playoff success - oh wait. Nevermind.

3 playoff wins in the last 2 years. The same amount of playoff wins the chiefs have had since 1970

BigVE
09-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

Because they play 6 games against KC, Den, Oak.

DaWolf
09-09-2009, 01:34 PM
Clayton is picking zero surprises, which means based on the history of how things go in a season that he's 60% wrong on his picks...

thurman merman
09-09-2009, 06:09 PM
i don't get all this love for the chargers...they were 8-8 last year in arguably the worst division in history. they were 3-7 against non-AFC west teams. they beat the chiefs twice by 1 point each time. if it wasn't for herm edwards, they would have been 6-10. their defense is terrible and they have done nothing in the offseason to upgrade it. yet everyone on earth seems to think they will win at least 13 games.

Frazod
09-09-2009, 06:26 PM
3 playoff wins in the last 2 years. The same amount of playoff wins the chiefs have had since 1970

And, ironically, the same number of Super Bowl wins.

Spott
09-09-2009, 06:30 PM
The totals for KC and Oakland are about right, but Denver will probably win 8 games and SD will win about 10 games.

milkman
09-09-2009, 06:32 PM
i don't get all this love for the chargers...they were 8-8 last year in arguably the worst division in history. they were 3-7 against non-AFC west teams. they beat the chiefs twice by 1 point each time. if it wasn't for herm edwards, they would have been 6-10. their defense is terrible and they have done nothing in the offseason to upgrade it. yet everyone on earth seems to think they will win at least 13 games.

Their defense played poorly under Tedd Cottrell, but improved significantly after Cottrell was fired and Rivera replaced him.

googlegoogle
09-09-2009, 06:43 PM
Clayton sucks. Get back to calling up informants.

DBOSHO
09-09-2009, 07:20 PM
ESPN is all over SDs jock. apparently they didnt see them go 4-8. apparently they didnt notice that Norv is still the head coach

DBOSHO
09-09-2009, 07:23 PM
3 playoff wins in the last 2 years. The same amount of playoff wins the chiefs have had since 1970

where has that gotcha?

XXXshogunXXX
09-10-2009, 02:34 AM
where has that gotcha?

winning...you cant say the same

Valiant
09-10-2009, 03:54 AM
Why does SD get so much love? I agree they'll be #1 in the AFCW. But, I'd say 9-7.

Yeah I don't think they will be that great.. 10wins easily.. But they will get a free 4-5 wins just from the division.. They only need to go 6-4 outside of the division to win 10 games..

Quiet Storm
09-10-2009, 04:49 AM
winning...you cant say the same

ROFL WE HAVE A WINNER!

Making the playoffs every year (where it becomes a crap shoot) > Going 2-14

R8RFAN
09-10-2009, 07:55 AM
My predictions

San Diego Chargers 10-6
Oakland Raiders 7-9
Kansas City Chiefs 5-11
Denver Broncos 2-14

Reerun_KC
09-10-2009, 08:11 AM
3 playoff wins in the last 2 years. The same amount of playoff wins the chiefs have had since 1970

Ouch damn dude, no need to kick us while we are still down...

Yes we know we suck... Just leave it at that...

Reerun_KC
09-10-2009, 08:14 AM
ESPN is all over SDs jock. apparently they didnt see them go 4-8. apparently they didnt notice that Norv is still the head coach

apparently they realized Marty is gone and that they have went to the AFC championship game recently...


I cant stand SD just like the rest of the NFL, but I cant bury my head in the sand and bash Norv...

Hell Norv has more hardware in his trophy case than alot of coaches.. He might not be the best HC in SD's history. But he is a million times better than Marty.

SD-Marty+shit ton of talent = good playoff runs...

Delano
09-10-2009, 08:16 AM
My predictions

San Diego Chargers 10-6
Oakland Raiders 7-9
Kansas City Chiefs 5-11
Denver Broncos 2-14

I agree with the top two, but I think KC and Denver will both be closer to the 3-4 wins range.

Chiefnj2
09-10-2009, 08:21 AM
apparently they realized Marty is gone and that they have went to the AFC championship game recently...


I cant stand SD just like the rest of the NFL, but I cant bury my head in the sand and bash Norv...

Hell Norv has more hardware in his trophy case than alot of coaches.. He might not be the best HC in SD's history. But he is a million times better than Marty.

SD-Marty+shit ton of talent = good playoff runs...

Turner is reaping the benefit of what Marty helped build. They were as inept as KC when Marty took over (6 wins in Riley's last two years).