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Mr. Flopnuts
09-08-2009, 11:06 PM
Guess who 3 of the bottom 6 teams are?


http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings?season=2009&week=1

2009 Power Rankings: Week 1
RK (LW) TEAM REC COMMENT

1 (1) Steelers 12-4-0 They're loaded with talent and their coach knows how to maximize it. Can you say "repeat"? (Chadiha)

2 (2) Patriots 11-5-0 QB Tom Brady's broad shoulders have to carry an aging defense. (Clayton)

3 (3) Giants 12-4-0 The Giants have concerns on defense, but they buy time with solid ground game. (Clayton)

4 (4) Eagles 9-6-1 QB Donovan McNabb isn't wild about Wildcat, but he's the Eagles wild card to success. (Clayton)

5 (6) Chargers 8-8-0 Even if the Chargers are get caught up in the hype, they will win the division. (Kuharsky)

6 (5) Colts 12-4-0 Left tackle is the one big issue, but they'll work around it as much as possible. (Kuharsky)

7 (7) Titans 13-3-0 Life gets easier after difficult first six games, four of which are on the road. (Kuharsky)

8 (8) Falcons 11-5-0 A year of seasoning for Matt Ryan should put the Falcons in better position. Coach Mike Smith's even keel also seems helpful. (Sando)

9 (9) Vikings 10-6-0 Schism or not, Brett Favre makes this team a championship contender. (Chadiha)

10 (10) Ravens 11-5-0 They're lucky WR Derrick Mason decided to return from retirement. (Chadiha)

11 (13) Bears 9-7-0 I still don't see how Jay Cutler can play his best without proven wide receivers. (Chadiha)

12 (17) Packers 6-10-0 It all comes down to whether that defense can play better with a new 3-4 scheme. (Chadiha)

13 (12) Cardinals 9-7-0 QB Kurt Warner and key veterans sound a bit concerned after a lackluster preseason. The Cardinals still must prove they can be consistent. (Sando)

14 (11) Panthers 12-4-0 It's tough to set expectations for this group after so much staff turnover and the way Carolina faltered in the postseason. (Sando)

15 (18) Seahawks 4-12-0 The Seahawks are rising in the rankings after QB Matt Hasselbeck proved he could take a hit during the preseason. LT Walter Jones' health also key. (Sando)

16 (15) Dolphins 11-5-0 The Dolphins hope to avert the three-game drop that usually hits a team that goes from worst to first in a division. (Clayton)

17 (14) Cowboys 9-7-0 WR Roy Williams is catching everything in practice despite a sore shoulder, but he needs big season for the offense to thrive. (Clayton)

18 (19) Saints 8-8-0 Skepticism seems appropriate until the Saints prove they've finally upgraded their defense. Until then, it's fantasy football with Drew Brees. (Sando)

19 (16) Texans 8-8-0 LB Brian Cushing alone can't solve the defensive issues that lingered through preseason.

20 (20) Redskins 8-8-0 QB Jason Campbell appears improved now that coach Jim Zorn lets him throw more downfield. (Clayton)

21 (21) Bills 7-9-0 Firing offensive coordinator Turk Schonert nine days before the season opener is a sign of total panic in Buffalo. (Clayton)

22 (22) 49ers 7-9-0 Establishing a hard-nosed ground game was the first step for coach Mike Singletary and offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye. Can the passing game catch up? (Sando)

23 (23) Jets 9-7-0 Mark Sanchez continues to appear confident as a starter. He's seemingly more advanced than most rookie QBs.

24 (24) Bengals 4-11-1 Love this year's version of "Hard Knocks." Unfortunately, the Bengals' playoff hopes can be summed up by Chad Ochocinco's trademark saying: "Child, please." (Chadiha)

25 (25) Jaguars 5-11-0 With three division games in first four, the Jags are likely to move down before moving up. (Kuharsky)

26 (26) Buccaneers 9-7-0 A defensive-minded rookie coach plus new starting QB minus the offensive coordinator: I'm not so sure that's a winning equation. (Sando)

27 (27) Broncos 8-8-0 It has to take a while for team to buy in after all the drama surrounding former QB Jay Cutler, and then WR Brandon Marshall. (Kuharsky)

28 (28) Browns 4-12-0 I just can't see new coach Eric Mangini turning this team around in one season. (Chadiha)

29 (29) Chiefs 2-14-0 The Chiefs have a chance to climb if they can separate themselves from the Broncos and Raiders. (Kurharsky)

30 (30) Raiders 5-11-0 Will QB JaMarcus Russell start to quiet critics or give us more fodder? (Kuharsky)

31 (31) Rams 2-14-0 The schedule makers did new coach Steve Spagnuolo no favors by sending the Rams on the road three times in their first four games. (Sando)

32 (32) Lions 0-16-0 New coach Jim Schwartz will make the Lions better. He just won't do it fast enough to make a difference this fall. (Chadiha)

Reerun_KC
09-08-2009, 11:10 PM
At least were not the Chiefs... Oh wait...

J Diddy
09-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Ranked 29th are the chiefs
hoping cassell ain't leaf
it would really suck
for the chiefs to get fucked
by pioli northeast

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 11:11 PM
At least were not the Chiefs... Oh wait...Why must you insist on making me hate you?

Mr. Flopnuts
09-08-2009, 11:12 PM
At least were not the Chiefs... Oh wait...

This franchise is in complete shambles for the first time in my life. We are at the very bottom rungs of the rebuilding ladder. That said, we're still ranked ahead of the pillowbiting Raiders.

dj56dt58
09-08-2009, 11:12 PM
we are not worse than Denver

Mr. Flopnuts
09-08-2009, 11:14 PM
we are not worse than Denver

We'll be ahead of them when the season is over. Their offseason has made this one the best eva!

KcMizzou
09-08-2009, 11:15 PM
This franchise is in complete shambles for the first time in my life. We are at the very bottom rungs of the rebuilding ladder. That said, we're still ranked ahead of the pillowbiting Raiders.That's true.

BUT... This is a new franchise... from the top down. The people that got us into this hole, are not the people in charge of getting us out of it.

Easy 6
09-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Worse than Cleveland?

Really?...we're not looking any better?

That club is tied with cincy for the title of 'Oakland East'.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-08-2009, 11:20 PM
That's true.

BUT... This is a new franchise... from the top down. The people that got us into this hole, are not the people in charge of getting us out of it.

Oh, I'm not a doom and gloom guy. I've scratched my head a few times this offseason, but those guys have made a lot of money and been successful in the league. I have no reason not to be optimistic at this point.

I'm just saying, I haven't missed a game since the 1992 season. We've never been this bad. Herm and Carl dealt the death blow. That said, there isn't a sports franchise alive in worse shape than the Raiders. May Al Davis live to 160.

Baconeater
09-08-2009, 11:20 PM
WE'RE NOT DETROIT!

J Diddy
09-08-2009, 11:21 PM
WE'RE NOT DETROIT!


No we're detroit south

jAZ
09-08-2009, 11:24 PM
This franchise is in complete shambles for the first time in my life.

Jesus Christ. I'm so sick of the drama queens around here. Sorry to pick on you, because it's not just you and I know you were largely just taking a shot at the Raiders.

But my god.


We now have an owner that's shown he's going to be agressive in his efforts to build a championship level team again.
He landed the top GM candidate over the last 5 years.
He landed his top young head coach.
We have young talent at WR, RB, QB, LT, DE, CB(x2).
We have more depth at QB than we've had in decades.
We have the makings of a pretty decent defense when no one thought we had a shot at such.
We are all but certain to win more games this year than last year.
Most people here seem to agree that we are a RT and #2WR away from being able to make some noise.


And it seems like everyone thinks we are a franchise "in complete shambles".

Get real.

Mr. Flopnuts
09-08-2009, 11:29 PM
Jesus Christ. I'm so sick of the drama queens around here. Sorry to pick on you, because it's not just you and I know you were largely just taking a shot at the Raiders.

But my god.


We now have an owner that's shown he's going to be agressive in his efforts to build a championship level team again.
He landed the top GM candidate over the last 5 years.
He landed his top young head coach.
We have young talent at WR, RB, QB, LT, DE, CB(x2).
We have more depth at QB than we've had in decades.
We have the makings of a pretty decent defense when no one thought we had a shot at such.
We are all but certain to win more games this year than last year.
Most people here seem to agree that we are a RT and #2WR away from being able to make some noise.


And it seems like everyone thinks we are a franchise "in complete shambles".

Get real.


LOL Read the following posts Jaz. Carl and Herm dealt the death blow. Could I be more clear? And yes, I know what you're talking about. But I have largely refrained from it.

J Diddy
09-08-2009, 11:30 PM
Jesus Christ. I'm so sick of the drama queens around here. Sorry to pick on you, because it's not just you and I know you were largely just taking a shot at the Raiders.

But my god.


We now have an owner that's shown he's going to be agressive in his efforts to build a championship level team again.
He landed the top GM candidate over the last 5 years.
He landed his top young head coach.
We have young talent at WR, RB, QB, LT, DE, CB(x2).
We have more depth at QB than we've had in decades.
We have the makings of a pretty decent defense when no one thought we had a shot at such.
We are all but certain to win more games this year than last year.
Most people here seem to agree that we are a RT and #2WR away from being able to make some noise.


And it seems like everyone thinks we are a franchise "in complete shambles".

Get real.

I think if the d can rattle some skulls we got a shot, but let's face it from c to rt needs to be replaced and we need someone to stretch the field in the 2 spot. That's 4 players. I think most of the frustration is we didn't appear to go after anybody in the offseason who could accomplish that cementing. That being said pioli has won championships and me only on madden, I digress.

58kcfan89
09-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Oh, I'm not a doom and gloom guy. I've scratched my head a few times this offseason, but those guys have made a lot of money and been successful in the league. I have no reason not to be optimistic at this point.

I'm just saying, I haven't missed a game since the 1992 season. We've never been this bad. Herm and Carl dealt the death blow. That said, there isn't a sports franchise alive in worse shape than the Raiders. May Al Davis live to 160.

Pretty sure he's already way past 160. 1,160 would be a better age for him...

And I'm willing to bet we finish the season at around #20 or so, which I'm perfectly happy with.

KCChiefsMan
09-09-2009, 12:45 AM
Chargers at #5, give me a break

Mecca
09-09-2009, 12:46 AM
Who else are you gonna put there? It's actually a stretch to put the Eagles in front of them.

KCChiefsMan
09-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Who else are you gonna put there? It's actually a stretch to put the Eagles in front of them.

I would put the Colts, Ravens, Falcons, Vikings, Cardinals and Titans ahead of the Chargers.

Mecca
09-09-2009, 12:50 AM
I would put the Colts, Ravens, Falcons, Vikings, Cardinals and Titans ahead of the Chargers.

Uhh, well see when everyone is picking San Diego as a Bowl team that isn't gonna happen.

DaneMcCloud
09-09-2009, 12:52 AM
I would put the Colts, Ravens, Falcons, Vikings, Cardinals and Titans ahead of the Chargers.

The Colts? Really?

They lost their offensive line coach, offensive coordinator and head coach.

Please explain why.

The Cardinals?

They lost their offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Warner is one year older, which is huge. Boldin's unhappy.

The Titans?

The wheels are just about to fall off on Kerry Collins. Albert Haynesworth is gone.

The Vikings? LMAO

They're more desperate than Sean Young trying to win the part of Catwoman.

LMAO

Von Dumbass
09-09-2009, 12:52 AM
we are not worse than Denver

ROFL