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SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 07:15 AM
Then, my disdain for socialism would not be considered racist.

petegz28
09-17-2009, 07:20 AM
:clap:

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 07:21 AM
Then, my disdain for socialism would not be considered racist.


Catch 22, if he was white, his life would have taken a completely different trajectory.

HonestChieffan
09-17-2009, 07:22 AM
I wish he was unemployed

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 07:23 AM
I wish he would go back to Kenya.

TFG
09-17-2009, 07:25 AM
Then, my disdain for socialism would not be considered racist.


Rather, if you had opposed W's socialism as well as Obama's, you wouldn't have that problem. In other words, you don't have a brain, you don't know what socialism really is, and you were too stupid to notice that you fully supported socialism by supporting W...

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 07:25 AM
Rather, if you had opposed W's socialism as well as Obama's, you wouldn't have that problem. In other words, you don't have a brain, you don't know what socialism really is, and you were too stupid to notice that you fully supported socialism by supporting W...

How do you know he didn't oppose W's socialism?

TFG
09-17-2009, 07:26 AM
How do you know he didn't oppose W's socialism?


Because if he had opposed W's socialism, anyone calling him "racist" for his opposition to socialism would not bother him...

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 07:27 AM
Because if he had opposed W's socialism, anyone calling him "racist" for his opposition to socialism would not bother him...

:spock:

banyon
09-17-2009, 07:28 AM
great thread.

Messier
09-17-2009, 07:32 AM
You'll never have a country that has no socialism. And you wouldn't want to live in a country that was completely without it.

blaise
09-17-2009, 07:39 AM
If I was Obama I don't think I'd appreciate everyone trying to pull the race card for him. I don't think he wants it happening.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 07:44 AM
This more perfect union stuff is working out great.

TFG
09-17-2009, 07:51 AM
You'll never have a country that has no socialism. And you wouldn't want to live in a country that was completely without it.


Providing for the common defense is not socialism. Ensuring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness requires no socialism.

We could privatize just about everything except the military, law enforcement, and the courts, and things would be much much better than having politicized overpaid bureaucrats in DC micromanaging how much CO2 we can "emit."

banyon
09-17-2009, 08:15 AM
Providing for the common defense is not socialism. Ensuring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness requires no socialism.

We could privatize just about everything except the military, law enforcement, and the courts, and things would be much much better than having politicized overpaid bureaucrats in DC micromanaging how much CO2 we can "emit."

Really? Give us your definition of socialism so that we'll know where the bounds lie then instead of just the vague "stuff I don't like" that's typically thrown around here.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 08:16 AM
Rather, if you had opposed W's socialism as well as Obama's, you wouldn't have that problem. In other words, you don't have a brain, you don't know what socialism really is, and you were too stupid to notice that you fully supported socialism by supporting W...


Barking up the wrong tree. I had many issues with Bush's presidency.

Of course, I did like that he wasn't such a pushover in foreign policy. I like the fact that he waged war on Muslim terrorism.... after years and years of attacks that went unanswered. I served in Somalia. I was there when we pulled out. I was there when Bin Laden was organizing rebels and our President tucked our tail and ran. So, actually going on the offensive made me happy.

Other than that, and the fact that depriving a terrorist of sleep wasn't considered 'torture'.... I had a ton of problems with the Bush Presidency. The bailout was a horrible thing. He should have stood up and fought for conservative values and solutions. There were many things that would have helped that did not include writing large checks to poorly run corporations paid for by the taxpayers that these very coorporations were screwing over in many cases.

His spending was ridiculous on social programs. The prescription drug plan is yet another social program that will go bankrupt in the near future.

But, at least it was 'socialism lite'. Obamunism is even worse.

In the long run, I hope it wakes everyone up. I hope there is a new party that emerges actually concerned with the best choices for our nation and not with maintaining power.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 08:28 AM
You'll never have a country that has no socialism. And you wouldn't want to live in a country that was completely without it.

This country was founded without it.

To a certain point, I agree with not wanting to live in a country completely devoid of it.

I believe in caring for those who cannot care for themselves. That is a very small group of people. That is only those with mental or physical handicaps.

I don't think that there should be social security. Social security robs us blind. If we were able to invest our own money, we would be much better off.

EVEN with this most recent economic downturn, my investments will be worth FAR more when I retire. In fact, for me, I loved it. I am 35, and it allowed me to invest at levels I haven't seen since my 20's. It gave me a mulligan for not investing more earlier in my life.

(Those that had a ton of money in the stock market and are close to retiring or are retired were not smart. You invest to create wealth young, and you put it into safe investments later, such as savings accounts, money markets, and CD's.)

Every person would pay the same rate on taxes. ( I would actually like to have the Fair Tax, but at least a flat tax) There would be NO special interest group tax deductions. No mortgage interest deduction. Nothing.

Oh, and here is the funny thing, I make about 100K per year. I can write off so much stuff legally, that I can get my adjusted gross income down to 45K a year.

Unemployment insurance would not exist. It would change the way people handled their money. They would actually have an emergency fund.

Basically, here is the thing... it is far too convenient in this country to be poor. The government encourages laziness and lack of ambition by providing for those people that can work but choose not to.

At the minimum, the government should build housing compounds, and if you are receiving welfare, you have to live in one of those compounds and you are not allowed to have a car or cable TV, or a cell phone.

Make it painful enough that they may actually get motivated enough to get a job.

Anyways, you are right.... there will never be another nation without some form of socialism. But, we can at least manage it.... and we need to make the poor uncomfortable enough to do something about it.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 08:29 AM
If I was Obama I don't think I'd appreciate everyone trying to pull the race card for him. I don't think he wants it happening.

If he didn't, he could stop it. It is his own party pulling it out for him.

I think he doesn't mind because it may help get his socialist programs pushed through.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 08:33 AM
You'll never have a country that has no socialism. And you wouldn't want to live in a country that was completely without it.

Count me out of your ideal world.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 08:33 AM
Barking up the wrong tree. I had many issues with Bush's presidency.

Of course, I did like that he wasn't such a pushover in foreign policy. I like the fact that he waged war on Muslim terrorism.... after years and years of attacks that went unanswered. I served in Somalia. I was there when we pulled out. I was there when Bin Laden was organizing rebels and our President tucked our tail and ran. So, actually going on the offensive made me happy.

Other than that, and the fact that depriving a terrorist of sleep wasn't considered 'torture'.... I had a ton of problems with the Bush Presidency. The bailout was a horrible thing. He should have stood up and fought for conservative values and solutions. There were many things that would have helped that did not include writing large checks to poorly run corporations paid for by the taxpayers that these very coorporations were screwing over in many cases.

His spending was ridiculous on social programs. The prescription drug plan is yet another social program that will go bankrupt in the near future.

But, at least it was 'socialism lite'. Obamunism is even worse.

In the long run, I hope it wakes everyone up. I hope there is a new party that emerges actually concerned with the best choices for our nation and not with maintaining power.

Great post.

blaise
09-17-2009, 08:34 AM
If he didn't, he could stop it. It is his own party pulling it out for him.

I think he doesn't mind because it may help get his socialist programs pushed through.

I know it's his own party doing it, and I don't know if he wants it or not, but I don't think it's doing him any favors. I think the people doing it think they're doing him good, but in my opinion more people are going to react negatively to it. I don't believe it's good strategy. I would think he'd recognize that.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 08:35 AM
Providing for the common defense is not socialism. Ensuring life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness requires no socialism.

We could privatize just about everything except the military, law enforcement, and the courts, and things would be much much better than having politicized overpaid bureaucrats in DC micromanaging how much CO2 we can "emit."

The problem with government is that they have no motivation to cut costs. None.

Private corporations are motivated to cut costs to increase profits.

The demand curve is such that at higher prices, fewer products and services are sold. If they can cut costs, they can sell more and, thus, make more profits.

The goverment knows that no matter how much it spends, it can always just come to us, basically with a gun, and take away our money. And, we have NO recourse.

The only recourse we would have is to move to another country.

It is a travesty that these politicians see nothing wrong with spending trillions of dollars of our future earnings for a 'stimulus package'.

I do hope that if the terrorists are successful, they wipe out Washington DC on a day when EVERY politician is there.

Maybe then, the country would have a better chance of getting back on track.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 08:36 AM
In the long run, I hope it wakes everyone up. I hope there is a new party that emerges actually concerned with the best choices for our nation and not with maintaining power.

I think they are. I'm tired of the fascists fighting the communists.....would rather it be just federalists fighting anti-federalists or something other than the two extremes of what we have today. Afterall, we have to have something to fight about.

TFG
09-17-2009, 08:38 AM
"I like the fact that he waged war on Muslim terrorism.... after years and years of attacks that went unanswered."



Notice this guy used to use the phrase "Islamic terrorism" and now has changed that since he "discovered" here yesterday that Saddam was not Islamic...


So which ones went unanswered?


The USS Liberty attack? Ooops, that was Israel, and it did go unanswered...




"I was there when we pulled out. I was there when Bin Laden was organizing rebels"


yet you cheered when W made him "not a priority." And now you are dumping on the Prez who has made him THE PRIORITY...



"Other than that, and the fact that depriving a terrorist of sleep wasn't considered 'torture'"


... and you have absolutely no problem that all the "enhanced interrogations" tapes were intentionally destroyed by Cheney, that the questioning during those interrogations was not about stopping any future attacks because there were not any to stop, and that the questioning was entirely about LINKING smoking drinking Saddam to Islamic Lifestyle Osama. Nevermind the violations of our laws, values, and treaties...


It is just really a shame you weren't deployed to Iraq. You DESERVE to be deployed to Iraq...

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 08:41 AM
I know it's his own party doing it, and I don't know if he wants it or not, but I don't think it's doing him any favors. I think the people doing it think they're doing him good, but in my opinion more people are going to react negatively to it. I don't believe it's good strategy. I would think he'd recognize that.


You would think he would realize that the US isn't socialist and doesn't want a government run healthcare system.

You would think he would realize that telling us the new healthcare bill won't add any to the deficit is not plausible. At least most politician's lies are plausible.

He has to do anything he can to discredit the opposition because by and large, Amercia knows that the opposition is right on the health care issue.

That is why his approval rating is dropping. That is why 52% of the Nation don't think the healthcare bill is being handled correctly.

In the end, as I have said all along, I truly hope this wakes up the American people.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 08:44 AM
"I like the fact that he waged war on Muslim terrorism.... after years and years of attacks that went unanswered."

Islam is a Satanic cult. No offense.

LOL

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 09:07 AM
"Notice this guy used to use the phrase "Islamic terrorism" and now has changed that since he "discovered" here yesterday that Saddam was not Islamic..."

I don't think I have ever posted in the DC forum before. Maybe a long time ago. I certainly didn't learn anything on this forum because I haven't read any threads in here. I try not to get tied into politics on BB because I lose a lot of productivity in my day.

Now, as far as Saddam. Saddam was not a terrorist in my opinion. Saddam was a leader of a country that refused to comply with the UN sanctions and the cease fire agreement. I have no issues with invading Iraq because it showed solidarity and force.


So which ones went unanswered?


The mere fact you have to ask that question shows your ignorance.



yet you cheered when W made him "not a priority." And now you are dumping on the Prez who has made him THE PRIORITY...

LOL. The only thing Obama has made the priority is socializing America. Give me a break. Iraq was viewed as a threat. At the time, all the democrats agreed. It was part of a 'war' on terrorism and the Nations that harbor it.

Getting Bin Ladden would have been nice. But, to me, that isn't the priority. He is only one man. The priority has to be the systematic destruction of muslim terrorism.



"... and you have absolutely no problem that all the "enhanced interrogations" tapes were intentionally destroyed by Cheney, that the questioning during those interrogations was not about stopping any future attacks because there were not any to stop, and that the questioning was entirely about LINKING smoking drinking Saddam to Islamic Lifestyle Osama. Nevermind the violations of our laws, values, and treaties..."

Okay, lets get two things out of the way.

#1) Muslim terrorists, or any other kind of terrorists for that matter should not have rights under our law. This is the same exact 'law' that they are trying to eliminate, and any of our soldiers captured by them are subjected to much worse.

#2) Muslim terrorists are not covered under treaties because treaties deal with soldiers from other countries. These are not soldiers, they are terrorists.

Okay, with that out of the way..... Trying to link Saddam and Bin Laden is another way of saying 'trying to find out if there was a link'. Now, in interrogations, you don't merely ask. You press the issue and you 'try' to link them because the terrorists aren't going to just spell it all out for you.

Now, why? Well, because Saddam HAD WMD's. We know this because he used them in the first Gulf War. We know this because he had 'some' remnants even when we invaded.

So, it might be good to know if there was any chance that Al Qaeda might have a way of getting their hands on these. You know, since it would only take a small amount to kill thousands of people in a city like NY, for instance.

As far as the destruction of the tapes. I have no issue with it. I wouldn't have issues with Obama destroying similar tapes.

There are many operatives that put their asses on the line everyday for this country. The least this country can do is take every precaution to protect their identity.



"It is just really a shame you weren't deployed to Iraq. You DESERVE to be deployed to Iraq...."

As with most of your assumptions about me, you are wrong on this one too.

I was lucky enough to serve in Iraq AND Somalia.... oh, and I saw some time in Bosnia too.... just FYI.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 09:13 AM
Oh, and as far as interrogation violating our 'values'.

Sorry. I value preserving the US way of life. I value not being intimidated by backwards thinking people that feel like women offer nothing more than an alternate to masturbation and a baby breeding machine.

I value every life to the point that the avoiding the discomfort of a terrorist is not worth more than any life... American or otherwise.

Those are my values.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 09:43 AM
Oh, and as far as interrogation violating our 'values'.

Sorry. I value preserving the US way of life. I value not being intimidated by backwards thinking people that feel like women offer nothing more than an alternate to masturbation and a baby breeding machine.

I value every life to the point that the avoiding the discomfort of a terrorist is not worth more than any life... American or otherwise.

Those are my values.

Preserving the US way of life will not be done with our current FPthat is destroying it because it is a big part of what is bankrupting us....oh I mean has bankrupted us. We need to preserve our way of life from within FIRST where it is under attack by the left. Going abroad is a distraction. Or it tells me we have the fascists battling the communists here at home.

This is same formula that bankrupted other great civilizations: Rome, British Empire as well as lesser ones like the Soviet Union. All the empires of old Europe died out this way too.

It needs to stop. It is UNAMERICAN.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:51 AM
Really? Give us your definition of socialism so that we'll know where the bounds lie then instead of just the vague "stuff I don't like" that's typically thrown around here.

Banyon's number one counter-argument against all the socialism Obama is proposing:

"Oh yeah? Well what is the dictionary definition? Maybe you'll like it then!"

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Socialism is egalitarianism achieved by controlling the major means of production which is you and I ( the people). It is done through the tax code ( redsitributes wealth through transfers) and regulations that are not protections against fraud but egalitarian in nature. Like min wages, living wages etc. Things aimed at levelling things off which eventually winds up as equal poverty for all.

Marx studied the earlier Utopian socialists but attempted to make it scientific. So he laid out the common denominators of the various socialisms which is his Ten Planks which the lefties here mostly support using the current event's language of the day ( Newspeak).

Duck Dog
09-17-2009, 10:18 AM
If Nobama were white he would have never been nominated for the Presidency.

Duck Dog
09-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Because if he had opposed W's socialism, anyone calling him "racist" for his opposition to socialism would not bother him...

Where do you idiots come from? Go back to DU.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Socialism is egalitarianism achieved by controlling the major means of production which is you and I ( the people). It is done through the tax code ( redsitributes wealth through transfers) and regulations that are not protections against fraud but egalitarian in nature. Like min wages, living wages etc. Things aimed at levelling things off which eventually winds up as equal poverty for all.

Marx studied the earlier Utopian socialists but attempted to make it scientific. So he laid out the common denominators of the various socialisms which is his Ten Planks which the lefties here mostly support using the current event's language of the day ( Newspeak).



This is a great definition...

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:25 AM
Where do you idiots come from? Go back to DU.


So, as W eclipsed Carter to become the biggest spending Prez since LBJ, you thought that was "conservative?"

Inspector
09-17-2009, 10:28 AM
Oh, and as far as interrogation violating our 'values'.

Sorry. I value preserving the US way of life. I value not being intimidated by backwards thinking people that feel like women offer nothing more than an alternate to masturbation and a baby breeding machine.

I value every life to the point that the avoiding the discomfort of a terrorist is not worth more than any life... American or otherwise.

Those are my values.

:clap:

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:31 AM
"Saddam was a leader of a country that refused to comply with the UN sanctions and the cease fire agreement. I have no issues with invading Iraq because it showed solidarity and force."


I am confused with that. What is your standard for invasion? UN violations? Do you want the US and just the US to invade the world leader in UN violations? If you don't, you would be outed as the hypocritical bigot you are...



"The only thing Obama has made the priority is socializing America."


W's initial deployment to Afghan was 7k US and 12k total coalition, or barely enough to take and hold Kabul and Khandahar. Obama has recently increased that to 70k, and you hate that, because you LOVE Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, because they fight against Iran, Israel's enemy.



"Iraq was viewed as a threat."

By WHO? The UN said Iraq was NO THREAT. The CIA Agent Valerie Plame told the truth that Saddam was not procuring yellowcake. Just endlessly parroting Zionist LIES to get more of your fellow troops killed for precisely nothing in US national interest is TREASON. Everyone who said Iraq was a THREAT was a TREASONOUS LIAR dedicated to getting the US to use the US military to wipe out Israel's enemies. Whether or not your treasonous BIRDBRAIN ever stops lying about that is not consequential to anything other than whether or not you deserve to swing from a tree.

blaise
09-17-2009, 10:35 AM
True patriots spend all day posting diatribes on message boards related to NFL teams.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:36 AM
"Muslim terrorists, or any other kind of terrorists for that matter should not have rights under our law"


The US Supreme Court said otherwise. If you don't like that, then get the PHUCK out of the US. You do not make the laws here. If you do not like the laws, you are free to LEAVE and go serve Israel without pretending to care about the US.



"Trying to link Saddam and Bin Laden is another way of saying 'trying to find out if there was a link'. "



And yet again, your third grade "understanding" didn't quite cut it. EVERYONE involved with Bush 41's Gulf war KNEW THE OBVIOUS, that Osama's AQ manual stated that "Islamic leaders" who do not "live the lifestyle" should be OVERTHROWN. There was no link. There was no possible way for a link to exist. These were two mass murderers who wanted each other DEAD. Everyone with a THIRD GRADE understanding of the Middle East knew that, even if you never pull your treasonous BEAK out of Rupert Murdoch's lying BUTT.

blaise
09-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Right on cue.

banyon
09-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Banyon's number one counter-argument against all the socialism Obama is proposing:

"Oh yeah? Well what is the dictionary definition? Maybe you'll like it then!"

Yeah, it's usually pretty effective in undercutting your overly broad overreactions to any type of government activity as the end times.

I remember last time you tried to define it it was pretty clownish. You refused to do it without using the same word in your definition.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:42 AM
"Now, in interrogations, you don't merely ask. You press the issue and you 'try' to link them because the terrorists aren't going to just spell it all out for you."


So far, you have parroted every Zionist lie from FIXED NOISE and have demonstrated a total contempt for the truth as defined by Americans, in this case FBI Director Mueller. The FBI got useful info from them without any "torture." The CIA got JACK SHIT other than the intentional coerced LIE that "Saddam was training AQ in chem" which Cheney then rushed to "Meet the Press" and said "We know Saddam was training AQ in chem." The Gitmo who said that after being repeatedly tortured told the FBI it was not true, and that he was not AQ. Then he was murdered in a Libyan prison - convenient. He was THE ONLY "EVIDENCE" of a "link," and, more precisely, the exact reason why Cheney disregarded the FBI, the CIA IG, and the DoD, all of whom told Cheney that torture did not work except to get FALSE CONFESSIONS, which is what Cheney was after. The AQs are not liars. They boldly tell exactly what is on their minds. They hate us because treasonous white n-words like you insist on parroting Zionist lies and getting the US to side with Israel.

banyon
09-17-2009, 10:43 AM
Socialism is egalitarianism achieved by controlling the major means of production which is you and I ( the people). It is done through the tax code ( redsitributes wealth through transfers) and regulations that are not protections against fraud but egalitarian in nature. Like min wages, living wages etc. Things aimed at levelling things off which eventually winds up as equal poverty for all.

Marx studied the earlier Utopian socialists but attempted to make it scientific. So he laid out the common denominators of the various socialisms which is his Ten Planks which the lefties here mostly support using the current event's language of the day ( Newspeak).

Great, no one has proposed turning over the means of production, so it's good to know you guys are aware this isn't socialism.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:44 AM
"Well, because Saddam HAD WMD's. We know this because he used them in the first Gulf War."


LIAR.

He did not use them. He had chem he used in the 1980s twice against the Kurds and the Iranians. He did not use chem against us because he did not have AIR SUPERIORITY to allow him to transport the chem shells.


CHEM is a crap weapon, and to call it a "WMD" is a joke. Comparing CHEM to NUKE is like comparing a PLASTIC KNIFE to a Bradley.

patteeu
09-17-2009, 10:46 AM
Getting Bin Ladden would have been nice. But, to me, that isn't the priority. He is only one man. The priority has to be the systematic destruction of muslim terrorism.

There it is right there. He is only one man. Can you believe that? He's only one man? One man?!?! LOL@TFG

That's a sensible take, SensibleChiefsfan. :thumb:

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:47 AM
"So, it might be good to know if there was any chance that Al Qaeda might have a way of getting their hands on these. You know, since it would only take a small amount to kill thousands of people in a city like NY, for instance."


Curious, since we were attacked by Al Qaeda... using plastic knives...


and, of course, your hero W made Al Qaeda "not a priority" and invaded Iraq over intentional lies, counting on his supporters in Zionist media outlets like FIXED to keep


TREASONOUS WHITE N-WORD BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALISTS WITH SUB 30 IQs


endlessly blabbering "the terrorists."


PHUCK YOU, TRAITOR.

I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...

patteeu
09-17-2009, 10:48 AM
Socialism is egalitarianism achieved by controlling the major means of production which is you and I ( the people). It is done through the tax code ( redsitributes wealth through transfers) and regulations that are not protections against fraud but egalitarian in nature. Like min wages, living wages etc. Things aimed at levelling things off which eventually winds up as equal poverty for all.

Marx studied the earlier Utopian socialists but attempted to make it scientific. So he laid out the common denominators of the various socialisms which is his Ten Planks which the lefties here mostly support using the current event's language of the day ( Newspeak).

Yes.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 10:48 AM
Yeah, it's usually pretty effective in undercutting your overly broad overreactions to any type of government activity as the end times.

I remember last time you tried to define it it was pretty clownish. You refused to do it without using the same word in your definition.


I have no problem with my definition of soclialist. A socialist is someone who primarily advocates socialist solutions. It really doesn't need to be more difficult than that.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:49 AM
There it is right there. He is only one man. Can you believe that? He's only one man? One man?!?! LOL@TFG

That's a sensible take, SensibleChiefsfan. :thumb:



Treason is as Treason does.

AQ led by OBL hit us. W made him "not a priority" and he is still alive and killing innocents. And there you FIXED NOISE traitors are, claiming to get him would have been, not US national interest, but



POINTLESS REVENGE



as if 911 really was nothing to fuss about...

patteeu
09-17-2009, 10:51 AM
Who is giving TFG positive reputation? Is anyone willing to admit they're doing it?

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 10:52 AM
TFG... I know you are going to think that you 'showed me'.... that's fine.

The reason I don't do the DC forum is because I have trouble letting stuff go.... but I really need to get back to work because I am driving up to the Chiefs game over the weekend.

I know you are used to dealing with conservatives that you feel like back everything Bush did. I don't.

I do back the war effort. I would back an air assault against Iran as well.

I don't back the way the war was conducted. War is war, and the US needs to quit trying to be PC in war. People are going to die. Innocents are going to die.

That is why war sucks. But, if you make the determination to go to war, you need to do it full force, and not this mamby pamby crap they try.

There is a reason they declare war... and not, they declare 'strategic air strikes on 'known' amunitions' plants.

But, all in all, I have no issues with opposing views so long as they argue from an intellectually honest standpoint.

I don't feel like either side does that anymore....ane WE lose.. It's not these power hungry politicians in Washington. It's us.

Anyways, I have to get back to work.... but I look forward to sparring with you again....

Oh, and one thing... I didn't lie. I meant when Saddam gassed the Kurds when the US left. To me, that was still part of the war.... I mean, I was still in Kuwait.... so, to me, that is still part of the war.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:53 AM
Who is giving TFG positive reputation? Is anyone willing to admit they're doing it?


Yes, indeed, don't you know patteeu's heroes in The Moussad are watching...

banyon
09-17-2009, 10:53 AM
I have no problem with my definition of soclialist. A socialist is someone who primarily advocates socialist solutions. It really doesn't need to be more difficult than that.

Yes, it does, at least slightly. using the same word you are trying to define in the definition is well, retarded and not useful.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 10:54 AM
[QUOTE=TFG;6081270
I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...[/QUOTE]

Wow, why doesn't that surprise me?

Inspector
09-17-2009, 10:54 AM
Obama is white. Actually. Just as much as black.

I guess he's gray.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:55 AM
"I would back an air assault against Iran as well. "


The full circle of the Zionist Treason that was the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror would be then completed.

On 911, The Taliban and Al Qaeda were at war in Afghanistan with something called The Northern Alliance, which was armed and funded by Iran.


Hence, being a complete Zionist Traitor, you did not want to off those responsible for 911, but rather those at war on 911 with those responsible for 911, because Iran is Israel's #1 enemy, and you are a Zionist Traitor who parrots FIXED NOISE, and FIXED NOISE exists to lie to get the US to hit Iran while making those who fight against Iran like Osama "not a priority."

patteeu
09-17-2009, 10:56 AM
Yes, it does, at least slightly. using the same word you are trying to define in the definition is well, retarded and not useful.

Would you be happier if he replaced "socialist solutions" with "collectivist solutions"?

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 10:56 AM
Yes, indeed, don't you know patteeu's heroes in The Moussad are watching...


I could go for some chocolate moussad right about now.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:58 AM
"But, if you make the determination to go to war, you need to do it full force, and not this mamby pamby crap they try."


An amazing quote from a traitor who cheered the puny 7k initial deployment to Afghan, and, now, eight years after W made OBL "not a priority" and sent WAY TOO SMALL A FORCE to Afghan, you jeer the US President trying to kill OBL with a real force that our top military advisors say is STILL TOO SMALL even though it is TEN TIMES AS LARGE as what W sent...

Inspector
09-17-2009, 10:58 AM
TFG... I know you are going to think that you 'showed me'.... that's fine.

The reason I don't do the DC forum is because I have trouble letting stuff go.... but I really need to get back to work because I am driving up to the Chiefs game over the weekend.

I know you are used to dealing with conservatives that you feel like back everything Bush did. I don't.

I do back the war effort. I would back an air assault against Iran as well.

I don't back the way the war was conducted. War is war, and the US needs to quit trying to be PC in war. People are going to die. Innocents are going to die.

That is why war sucks. But, if you make the determination to go to war, you need to do it full force, and not this mamby pamby crap they try.

There is a reason they declare war... and not, they declare 'strategic air strikes on 'known' amunitions' plants.

But, all in all, I have no issues with opposing views so long as they argue from an intellectually honest standpoint.

I don't feel like either side does that anymore....ane WE lose.. It's not these power hungry politicians in Washington. It's us.

Anyways, I have to get back to work.... but I look forward to sparring with you again....

Oh, and one thing... I didn't lie. I meant when Saddam gassed the Kurds when the US left. To me, that was still part of the war.... I mean, I was still in Kuwait.... so, to me, that is still part of the war.

Thanks for your service man! One of my sons did 2 tours in Iraq and is headed to Afganistan this weekend. Tour #3.

Those are long years for him and us waiting for his return.

This country can use all the patriots we can get!

banyon
09-17-2009, 10:59 AM
Would you be happier if he replaced "socialist solutions" with "collectivist solutions"?

Not really, now you're really just providing a synonym which will be equally vaguely applied. You're not setting any limits, drawing any boundaries, offering any definitive qualities, which is ordinarily what labels like this one (if they are useful and not just thrown around haphazardly) are intended for.

TFG
09-17-2009, 10:59 AM
"I meant when Saddam gassed the Kurds when the US left."


Um, no he didn't. He gassed the Kurds in the 1980s. He has not gassed anyone since he lost his air force in the first few minutes of Desert Storm...

TFG
09-17-2009, 11:00 AM
"I have no issues with opposing views so long as they argue from an intellectually honest standpoint."


And, to you, "intellectual honesty" is parroting FIXED lies and repeating the FIXED lies no matter how many times they get outed as lies...

patteeu
09-17-2009, 11:01 AM
PHUCK YOU, TRAITOR.

I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...

Just FYI, physical threats are a bannable offense here. I'd hate to see you kicked out because I'm entertained by your insanity.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 11:05 AM
I can't help it, when I pull the trigger I blink. All the time. TGF you have to show me that trick. Also the one where you blow bubbles from your ass.

CoMoChief
09-17-2009, 11:06 AM
"I like the fact that he waged war on Muslim terrorism.... after years and years of attacks that went unanswered."



Notice this guy used to use the phrase "Islamic terrorism" and now has changed that since he "discovered" here yesterday that Saddam was not Islamic...


So which ones went unanswered?


The USS Liberty attack? Ooops, that was Israel, and it did go unanswered...




"I was there when we pulled out. I was there when Bin Laden was organizing rebels"


yet you cheered when W made him "not a priority." And now you are dumping on the Prez who has made him THE PRIORITY...



"Other than that, and the fact that depriving a terrorist of sleep wasn't considered 'torture'"


... and you have absolutely no problem that all the "enhanced interrogations" tapes were intentionally destroyed by Cheney, that the questioning during those interrogations was not about stopping any future attacks because there were not any to stop, and that the questioning was entirely about LINKING smoking drinking Saddam to Islamic Lifestyle Osama. Nevermind the violations of our laws, values, and treaties...


It is just really a shame you weren't deployed to Iraq. You DESERVE to be deployed to Iraq...

You are by far the biggest dipshit on this board since Midnight Vulture

TFG
09-17-2009, 11:07 AM
I can't help it, when I pull the trigger I blink. All the time. TGF you have to show me that trick. Also the one where you blow bubbles from your ass.



Killing some traitor dedicated to getting US troops killed for lies and nothing in the US national interest is something any patriot would do without blinking.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Yes, it does, at least slightly. using the same word you are trying to define in the definition is well, retarded and not useful.


You seem to be the only one here who trips over it. Do I really have to define the word "socialism" every time I identify someone advocating socialist solutions?

Taco John
09-17-2009, 11:09 AM
"So, it might be good to know if there was any chance that Al Qaeda might have a way of getting their hands on these. You know, since it would only take a small amount to kill thousands of people in a city like NY, for instance."


Curious, since we were attacked by Al Qaeda... using plastic knives...


and, of course, your hero W made Al Qaeda "not a priority" and invaded Iraq over intentional lies, counting on his supporters in Zionist media outlets like FIXED to keep


TREASONOUS WHITE N-WORD BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALISTS WITH SUB 30 IQs


endlessly blabbering "the terrorists."


PHUCK YOU, TRAITOR.

I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...



Surely this is a bannable offense.

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 11:11 AM
"I would back an air assault against Iran as well. "


The full circle of the Zionist Treason that was the War on Exclusively Anti-Israel Terror would be then completed.

On 911, The Taliban and Al Qaeda were at war in Afghanistan with something called The Northern Alliance, which was armed and funded by Iran.


Hence, being a complete Zionist Traitor, you did not want to off those responsible for 911, but rather those at war on 911 with those responsible for 911, because Iran is Israel's #1 enemy, and you are a Zionist Traitor who parrots FIXED NOISE, and FIXED NOISE exists to lie to get the US to hit Iran while making those who fight against Iran like Osama "not a priority."


Man, I would LOVE to meet you. Seriously, you are so outspoken and proud on this board. You have all the answers.... even if most of them are wrong.

I was fully intent on having a nice, intellectual debate. It is clear, that I overestimated you.

You mention Zionist traitor and shooting me in the back of the head..... clearly you would have to.... otherwise I would wipe the floor with your dumb ass.

The funniest part is the assumptions you make about me. I tried not to make those assumptions about you, but I feel like they are not longer assumptions.

I am betting that you are only so proud and outspoken on here to make up for your pathetic POS life. I am sure that nothing is ever your fault, and you can't catch a break.

You know all the answers, but no one listens to you. You are dismissed, but you just know you are right, and here is the one place you have a chance of shouting down someone. Because in real life, you wouldn't dare raise your voice one on one with someone....especially not someone like me.

Well, you win. You have shouted down this 'zionist' traitor. Congratulations.

Now, I have to go back to running my business.

You can go back to 'knowing' all the answers and we will both be happy.

TFG
09-17-2009, 11:12 AM
"You mention Zionist traitor and shooting me in the back of the head..... clearly you would have to.... otherwise I would wipe the floor with your dumb ass."


Any time, any place, traitor. You can even pick the style of hand to hand...

SenselessChiefsFan
09-17-2009, 11:18 AM
"You mention Zionist traitor and shooting me in the back of the head..... clearly you would have to.... otherwise I would wipe the floor with your dumb ass."


Any time, any place, traitor. You can even pick the style of hand to hand...


Yeah, yeah. I will be at the Chiefs game. I'll be the one wearing red.


Edit: This is the one thing you took objection to.... so, you really are a pathetic POS that is largely ignored in real life. Makes sense, I suppose. "Lack of pussy makes a man crazy"

banyon
09-17-2009, 11:44 AM
You seem to be the only one here who trips over it. Do I really have to define the word "socialism" every time I identify someone advocating socialist solutions?

No, but once would be good. Otherwise it's just the same nonsense that BEP pulls everytime she has a disagreement or dislikes something, then they're neocon/fascists/communists/socialists/whatever and it's just meaningless gibberish.

But you don't like to draw lines and make distinctions, and it's understandable why. Blurring and conflating everything together is way more convenient (though intellectually lazy).

alpha_omega
09-17-2009, 11:48 AM
Well....you are halfway there.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 11:50 AM
Yeah, yeah. I will be at the Chiefs game. I'll be the one wearing red.


Edit: This is the one thing you took objection to.... so, you really are a pathetic POS that is largely ignored in real life. Makes sense, I suppose. "Lack of pussy makes a man crazy"

Watch out I think he's a zohan.

ROYC75
09-17-2009, 11:50 AM
I wish Obama was white.

He is, but only 1/2 half of him is.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 11:51 AM
"You mention Zionist traitor and shooting me in the back of the head..... clearly you would have to.... otherwise I would wipe the floor with your dumb ass."


Any time, any place, traitor. You can even pick the style of hand to hand...


I call BS.

There is no way you can keep from blinking when you pull the trigger. It's like sneezing, same thing.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 11:52 AM
He is, but only 1/2 half of him is.

The typical part of him.

Iowanian
09-17-2009, 12:18 PM
PHUCK YOU, TRAITOR.

I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...

Typical, chickenshit, candy ass, cowardly move of a terrorist.

You're a douchebag. You hate Israelis because you prefer to suck uncut, cheesy hobo cock.

You don't want any hand-hand, you want hand to gland. Someone should feed you to Wu's pigs.

Velvet_Jones
09-17-2009, 12:19 PM
All I want to know is where is my motherfuckin' check.

***SPRAYER
09-17-2009, 12:27 PM
He is, but only 1/2 half of him is.

I just noticed that.

;)

RNR
09-17-2009, 04:37 PM
"So, it might be good to know if there was any chance that Al Qaeda might have a way of getting their hands on these. You know, since it would only take a small amount to kill thousands of people in a city like NY, for instance."


Curious, since we were attacked by Al Qaeda... using plastic knives...


and, of course, your hero W made Al Qaeda "not a priority" and invaded Iraq over intentional lies, counting on his supporters in Zionist media outlets like FIXED to keep


TREASONOUS WHITE N-WORD BIBLE THUMPING SOCIALISTS WITH SUB 30 IQs


endlessly blabbering "the terrorists."


PHUCK YOU, TRAITOR.

I'd SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD WITHOUT BLINKING...

There have been some real idiots pass through here. You rank right up there.

MTG#10
09-18-2009, 09:14 AM
This thread is the SHIT! Too bad TFG got himself banned, I was hoping for another 3-4 pages of comedy.

ChiTown
09-18-2009, 09:20 AM
He is, but only 1/2 half of him is.

The other half is Satan...

:evil:

Frankie
09-18-2009, 08:08 PM
Then, my disdain for socialism would not be considered racist.

Or,

Then, you could get past your first emotion and start to look at his policies in an unbiased way.


No?

bkkcoh
09-18-2009, 08:20 PM
I wish he was unemployed

I wish he would go back to Kenya.

ditto

Saul Good
09-18-2009, 08:41 PM
Or,

Then, you could get past your first emotion and start to look at his policies in an unbiased way.


No?

Great point. Another poster saying that anyone who disagrees with Obama is doing it because of racism. 10% unemployment would be acknowledged as awesome if the president was white. Trillions in unfunded obligations would be hailed as brilliant fiscal policy if the president was white. Further entrenchment into a war in Afghanistan would be seen as a victory for humanity if the president was white.