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banyon
09-17-2009, 06:35 PM
This place is a real cess pool lately. Ugh.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 06:37 PM
I think that can be counted as a vote for "SHTSPRYR come back."

KILLER_CLOWN
09-17-2009, 06:38 PM
I think that can be counted as a vote for "SHTSPRYR come back."

ROFL

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 06:41 PM
This place is a real cess pool lately. Ugh.

As a wise man once said...

great thread.

banyon
09-17-2009, 06:46 PM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 06:50 PM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.

banyon
09-17-2009, 06:51 PM
I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.

I've labeled a couple of people racists when they were using direct and open slurs, but I haven't seen anyone in this forum doing that much based on criticism of the administration.

KILLER_CLOWN
09-17-2009, 06:52 PM
Looks like the same old planet to me.

headsnap
09-17-2009, 06:56 PM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

blame the President's lackeys...

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:00 PM
I've labeled a couple of people racists when they were using direct and open slurs, but I haven't seen anyone in this forum doing that much based on criticism of the administration.

I didn't mean you. I've got no beef with you (other than your woefully misguided views on, well, just about everything).

You have CNN and MSNBC calling the protesters "tea baggers". You have Jimmy Carter saying that racism is the overwhelming reason for opposition to Obama. You have Nancy Pelosi acting like the opposition is about to resort to violence. You have Hank Johnson saying that people will start "putting on white hoods and white uniforms riding through the countryside intimidating people”.

I have never seen this much open hostility coming from our leadership directed towards average, everyday Americans.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 07:01 PM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.



This is the democrats strategy right now, no? Call everybody racist, and incite a race-based furor that they hope will cause right leaning moderates to decide that they rather have socialized medicine afterall than hang tight with the insensitive fringe...

blaise
09-17-2009, 07:02 PM
Who said "Let's have a Klan rally"?

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:04 PM
This is the democrats strategy right now, no? Call everybody racist, and incite a race-based furor that they hope will cause right leaning moderates to decide that they rather have socialized medicine afterall than hang tight with the insensitive fringe...

It worked in November. Obama was right. They are starting to cling to guns or religion or antipathy towards people who aren't like them.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 07:04 PM
I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.


You said it much more succinctly than I did. This political environment is the fruit of the Pelosi/Reid/Obama strategy. They control the tone here by where they put their attention. They have decided to put the attention on the fringe, instead of the actual ideological opposition to this, in hopes that by highlighting the fringe, they'll get the moderates to take their side.

It's been a pretty serious miscalculation. But Pelosi continues to make it today with her latest weepfest.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:04 PM
Who said "Let's have a Klan rally"?

Nobody. It creates a better narrative if you just assume that this is what the conservatives are thinking, though.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 07:05 PM
Who said "Let's have a Klan rally"?



SHTSPRAYER isn't here to defend himself right now, so let's say it was him for SNG.

mlyonsd
09-17-2009, 07:08 PM
The first I noticed the debate change towards race was when Maureen DA Doud wrote a very stupid column. Could be wrong, that's just my interpretation.

If you're losing an argument change the discussion.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:08 PM
You said it much more succinctly than I did. This political environment is the fruit of the Pelosi/Reid/Obama strategy. They control the tone here by where they put their attention. They have decided to put the attention on the fringe, instead of the actual ideological opposition to this, in hopes that by highlighting the fringe, they'll get the moderates to take their side.

It's been a pretty serious miscalculation. But Pelosi continues to make it today with her latest weepfest.

It's really strange if you think about it. The country tossed the Democrats the keys and said, "drive". Instead of driving, they are just blaming the people sitting in the back seat.

It's like when Matt Millen was a commentator and always criticized GMs. The Lions made him a GM, and he was the worst one in the league's history with a bullet. Some people make it painfully obvious that it's much easier to be a Monday morning quarterback than it is to strap on a helmet.

petegz28
09-17-2009, 07:09 PM
The first I noticed the debate change towards race was when Maureen DA Doud wrote a very stupid column. Could be wrong, that's just my interpretation.

Actually it started with the dingbat Garofollo...like she matters, but still

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:09 PM
The first I noticed the debate change towards race was when Maureen DA Doud wrote a very stupid column. Could be wrong, that's just my interpretation.

If you're losing an argument change the discussion.

You're going to have to be a lot more specific.

mlyonsd
09-17-2009, 07:14 PM
You're going to have to be a lot more specific.

I haven't been around the forum as much lately...but the issue of people being against Obama became an argument in the MSM just recently. That's JMO though.

Mr. Kotter
09-17-2009, 07:14 PM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

Partisan loyalties have a way of distorting things for folks; this place had become more of a cesspool long before Obama.

During the campaign, and during the last couple of years of W.....things were pretty much as they are now. Except, roles have been reversed for the ideologues among us.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:14 PM
As a wise man once said...

ROFL

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:17 PM
Looks like the same old planet to me.

Ayup!

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:18 PM
I haven't been around the forum as much lately...but the issue of people being against Obama became an argument in the MSM just recently. That's JMO though.

Fess up, you've been making Creamed Tarragon Chicken Dijonaise. Haven't ya'?

RNR
09-17-2009, 07:19 PM
I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.

He is right if you don't agree with Obama you are a racist and only morons agree with him. So the title fits :)

Pioli Zombie
09-17-2009, 07:20 PM
I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.

That is a bunch of crap. This stuff was going on long before this past week.

You can criticize a policy initiative without calling people un-american, socialist, Nazi, be offended at the idea of the President encouraging students etc etc

This "You can't say anything without being called a racist" is total garbage.

Btw, when Rush Limbaugh says "this is Barack Obamas america Black children beating up White children" are any of you going to tell me that isn't racist and trying to scare up the whites?

If you can't see that's totally racist than you are one yourself. End of story.
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Direckshun
09-17-2009, 07:22 PM
I have never seen this much open hostility coming from our leadership directed towards average, everyday Americans.

Hi. I'm Direckshun.

I was told that I actively rooted for terrorists during the run up to the Iraq war. And that I wasn't a real American because of that.

Let's kinda remember that happened, too.

This idea that anything unprecedented is happening right now is silly.

And this forum's pretty much always been a cess pool. I don't remember a single thread ever saying something like "wow this place has shaped up."

That's kind of why I love it.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:22 PM
That is a bunch of crap. This stuff was going on long before this past week.

You can criticize a policy initiative without calling people un-american, socialist, Nazi, be offended at the idea of the President encouraging students etc etc

This "You can't say anything without being called a racist" is total garbage.

Btw, when Rush Limbaugh says "this is Barack Obamas america Black children beating up White children" are any of you going to tell me that isn't racist and trying to scare up the whites?

If you can't see that's totally racist than you are one yourself. End of story.
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1. Rush Limbaugh isn't an elected official
2. Link?

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:22 PM
That is a bunch of crap. This stuff was going on long before this past week.

You can criticize a policy initiative without calling people un-american, socialist, Nazi, be offended at the idea of the President encouraging students etc etc]

Sorry if the shoe fits ya' gotta wear it. And it is socialism being advocated. You may think it's an undeserved label I say it's wanting to hide what one is really advocating.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:25 PM
Hi. I'm Direckshun.

I was told that I actively rooted for terrorists during the run up to the Iraq war.

Let's kinda remember that happened, too.

This idea that anything unprecedented is happening right now is silly.

And this forum's pretty much always been a cess pool. I don't remember a single thread ever saying something like "wow this place has shaped up."

That's kind of why I love it.

Give me a quote from a national politician that is on par with "We'll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people”.

Pioli Zombie
09-17-2009, 07:26 PM
Sorry if the shoe fits ya' gotta wear it. And it is socialism being advocated. You may think it's an undeserved label I say it's wanting to hide what one is really advocating.
Its you hiding behind a label because you can't have a civilized discussion on the facts.
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BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:27 PM
Give me a quote from a national politician that is on par with "We'll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people”.

I can't give you a politician, but I think a certain poster works for AEI remotely and he's played the "race" card to a self-admitted paleo-con.

And what about the anti-semitic epithet used by the right? Just because you disagree with some things Israel does. Flip side of the coin.

Of course, one side will always feel their side is a bit better behaved.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:28 PM
Its you hiding behind a label because you can't have a civilized discussion on the facts.
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Well put.

Isn't it time for you to suck someones cock?

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:29 PM
Its you hiding behind a label because you can't have a civilized discussion on the facts.
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I discuss the facts plenty as well though. No need to repeat the same arguments over and over when one word will do. Especially after stating the pros and cons.
The word socialism happens to be a fact in this case too. The word NeoCon represents a pov on foreign policy. No need to list it all out every time after earlier lengthy discussions about what it is.
Just because you weren't here to see earlier discussions.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:30 PM
I can't give you a politician, but I think a certain poster works for AEI remotely and he's played the "race" card to a self-admitted paleo-con.

And what about the anti-semitic epithet used by the right? Just because you disagree with some things Israel does. Flip side of the coin.

Of course, one side will always feel their side is a bit better behaved.

There's a massive difference between calling someone anti semitic and saying that they are going to join the Klan and ride across the countryside intimidating people.

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 07:30 PM
Give me a quote from a national politician that is on par with "We'll probably have folks putting on white hoods and white uniforms again and riding through the countryside intimidating people”.

Are you telling me conservative politicians during the run-up and in the hottest moments of the Iraq war weren't saying that liberals and opponents to the war in Iraq didn't want America to win in the war against terror?

That we were actively pushing for the terrorists to win?

I mean, this shit now from some Democratic politicians is goofy-ass race baiting, but we're going to pretend similarly retarded shit wasn't a regular occurrence during the Bush administration?

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:31 PM
Are you telling me conservative politicians during the run-up and in the hottest moments of the Iraq war weren't saying that liberals and opponents to the war in Iraq didn't want America to win in the war against terror?

That we were actively pushing for the terrorists to win?

I mean, this shit now from some Democratic politicians is goofy-ass race baiting, but we're going to pretend similarly retarded shit wasn't a regular occurrence during the Bush administration?

I'm not saying that. Just give me a quote.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:33 PM
Well put.

No it's not. I have discussed plenty of facts earlier. I see no need to repost and restate them over and ove particularly to the same poster over and over. If they don't know what you mean after a few years that's on them.
It's time consuming. Labels are fine if they are accurate. It's just a word that has a definition. Don't know what it means to know if it's accurate doesn't mean they can't be used. It is no different than using democrat, or republican or big govt.

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 07:33 PM
I can't give you a politician, but I think a certain poster works for AEI remotely and he's played the "race" card to a self-admitted paleo-con.

And what about the anti-semitic epithet used by the right? Just because you disagree with some things Israel does. Flip side of the coin.

Of course, one side will always feel their side is a bit better behaved.

Right. Israel's another subject where constantly liberals are accused of wanting Hamas to have free rein to rape and pillage Israelis.

We want Jews to die!

I'm not saying liberals get the worse end of things -- I'm saying both sides get called a lot of ridiculous shit and this faux-outrage that one side historically gets it worse is a waste of time.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:33 PM
If you don't like quotes, give me an example of something like this:

Host Randi Rhodes apologized for "bad taste" in Monday's routine in which she began by saying, "A spoiled child (Bush) is telling us our Social Security isn't safe anymore, so he's going fix it for us. Well, here's your answer, you ungrateful whelp."

The sound of three shotgun blasts followed.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:34 PM
No it's not. I have discussed plenty of facts earlier. I see no need to repost and restate them over and over. It's time consuming. Labels are fine if they are accurate. It's just a word that has a definition. Don't know what it means to know if it's accurate doesn't mean they can't be used. It is no different than using democrat, or republican or big govt.

You might want to re-read my entire post.

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:35 PM
Right. Israel's another subject where constantly liberals are accused of wanting Hamas to have free rein to rape and pillage Israelis.

We want Jews to die!

I'm not saying liberals get the worse end of things -- I'm saying both sides get called a lot of ridiculous shit and this faux-outrage that one side historically gets it worse is a waste of time.

It should be easy to find such a quote, then.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:36 PM
There's a massive difference between calling someone anti semitic and saying that they are going to join the Klan and ride across the countryside intimidating people.

That's in the eye of the beholder though. ( as most things in politics and here are)
I don't think it is....it implies a hatred of Jews instead of something a state does.

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 07:37 PM
It should be easy to find such a quote, then.

Just say it didn't exist if you disagree. Just say it never happened.

I'm not going quote-hunting. If you don't want to believe it happened, it never did.

That's your right.

I'm not defending racist tirades, either directly or indirectly. Period.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:37 PM
You might want to re-read my entire post.

I did. Perhaps you need to expound on it. The cock quote can be taken two different ways.

banyon
09-17-2009, 07:37 PM
I did. Perhaps you need to expound on it.

Why are you even in this thread? Aren't I supposed to be on infantile fake ignore or whatever?

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:38 PM
I did. Perhaps you need to expound on it.

Did you miss Pioli Zombie's quote that I posted?

"Isn't it time for you to suck someones cock?"

Saul Good
09-17-2009, 07:39 PM
Why are you even in this thread? Aren't I supposed to be on infantile fake ignore or whatever?

Did I hear something?

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:40 PM
Did you miss Pioli Zombie's quote that I posted?

"Isn't it time for you to suck someones cock?"

I went back and re-read it to see what you meant and saw how it could be taken another way. I answered your visitor message too.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:40 PM
Did I hear something?

No you didn't. But thread titles can be seen. I do read the other posts.

RNR
09-17-2009, 07:42 PM
Why are you even in this thread? Aren't I supposed to be on infantile fake ignore or whatever?

Damn it banyon I made a sophomoric joke on post 26 you could at least scold me for it :shake:

Velvet_Jones
09-17-2009, 07:44 PM
I am not racist as long as Obama comes through on that damn check he promised me.

I don't like stupid lawyers though - is that racist?

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 07:45 PM
I don't like stupid lawyers though - is that racist?

Yes.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 07:57 PM
I am not racist as long as Obama comes through on that damn check he promised me.

I don't like stupid lawyers though - is that racist?

It's anti agents of the state. I approve of this message.

banyon
09-17-2009, 08:10 PM
No you didn't. But thread titles can be seen. I do read the other posts.

So you didn't have the self-control to just not click on the thread, since you knew it was posted by someone you were trying to ignore, or it's all a fake charade because you don't have the intellectual acument or fortitude to withstand any challenges to your views?

Probably both, nevermind.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-17-2009, 08:11 PM
This shit began as the last election was in its waning phases and the Republicans realized that they were going to lose. As the reality slowly settled in, you started to hear more and more of them talk about how Obama would probably be assassinated (Big DADDY, for example). They brought it up again and again. The implicit message was that they *hoped* he would be assassinated.

SHTSPRAYER was just the id of the Righties run amok, and the School Bus thread was a perfect display of what lay behind some of the keyboards around here.


The Republicans don't have any ideas. They aren't really even a political party as much as they are a cabal that just wants power and the advantages it confers. They are obstructionists for the sake of political gain, and their mouthpieces lower the discourse of the country. The fact that anyone on here has the gall to claim that the Democrats just sit back an interject inflammatory remarks is preposterously wrong.

The biggest problem with the left is that it is stoked full of pussies who won't call a spade a spade; They are unwilling to use any of their power or their mandate because they are too concerned about losing 5 house seats in the midterm elections. In that way, they are no better than the Republicans, and the fact that they let the minority party set the tone of the debate is just shameful. I still can't get my mind around the concept of making concessions for a powerless group who makes no concessions of their own.

Ultimately, the people who say that we need a third party in this country are wrong, as there are already three. The Moderate party, which comprises about 60% of congress is more concerned with maintaining the status quo and holding onto their seat than anything. The Conservative Party, which is about 30% of the legislature, wants to take the country back to the Gilded Age, and the Liberal Party, which is about 10%, wants to move forward with a progressive agenda.

tyson
09-17-2009, 08:14 PM
mecca is everyones holy land. A wise man once said "everything should be in moderation" that goes for politics, religion .....

banyon
09-17-2009, 08:19 PM
mecca is everyones holy land. A wise man once said "everything should be in moderation" that goes for politics, religion .....

I think Aristotle is the name you're looking for.

Amnorix
09-17-2009, 08:20 PM
I've never seen this forum when a Democrat was sitting in teh WH.

FYP. I agree, the place has been more than a bit over the top with insane rantings and paranoia.

I'm amused by the hatred of the right towards Obama on economic matters because I'm finding it tough to find too much that's different about him from Bush, other than the HC issue. But we see alot of raving over the stimulus and bank bailouts and the like that are basically identical to what Bush was doing.

I just try to pick my spots and ignore, to the extent I can, the more insane rantings. It's piontless to debate the drooling loons.

KCTitus
09-17-2009, 08:24 PM
FYP. I agree, the place has been more than a bit over the top with insane rantings and paranoia.

ehh...it's about the same, except as you noted, the roles have reversed with the left on defense and the right on offense.

You are accurate that Bush did many of the same things dating back to Medicare part D...it's around that time I began to become disillusioned with both parties because they had both drifted so far left, I had no representation. McCain's nomination was just too much.

So, I guess that makes me a racist. So be it. Ive been called that so many times, it no longer phases me.

Amnorix
09-17-2009, 08:25 PM
Partisan loyalties have a way of distorting things for folks; this place had become more of a cesspool long before Obama.

During the campaign, and during the last couple of years of W.....things were pretty much as they are now. Except, roles have been reversed for the ideologues among us.

I think this is in large part true. It's not enough to fight the opposition politically -- one must revile them. Generally hate them personally and everything they stand for. Believe, firmly, that they are RUINING the country and that their mistakes will be paid for by the next 10 generations.

This seems to have always been the case in American politics, more or less, going back to Adams/Jefferson, Adams/Jackson, and on from there. It's just that now, everyone gets to participate, and not just those in the political elite. The marginalization/elimination of moderates, however, might be posing a real problem for effective governance.

Amnorix
09-17-2009, 08:26 PM
ehh...it's about the same, except as you noted, the roles have reversed with the left on defense and the right on offense.

You are accurate that Bush did many of the same things dating back to Medicare part D...it's around that time I began to become disillusioned with both parties because they had both drifted so far left, I had no representation. McCain's nomination was just too much.

So, I guess that makes me a racist. So be it. Ive been called that so many times, it no longer phases me.

We've missed you around here. We had alot of good, intelligent arguments back in the day. The percentage of drooling morons is much too high.

Brock
09-17-2009, 08:27 PM
This side of the house has always been a garbage dump. It's why this side of the house exists.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-17-2009, 08:28 PM
This seems to have always been the case in American politics, more or less, going back to Adams/Jefferson, Adams/Jackson, and on from there. It's just that now, everyone gets to participate, and not just those in the political elite. The marginalization/elimination of moderates, however, might be posing a real problem for effective governance.

These things move in waves. It's been a long time since the days of fist fights on the floor of the Senate, but who knows any more. Personally, I think most of the acrimony of the last 35 years is a direct result of the anger the Right felt over the ouster of Nixon, and it's all been downhill from there.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-17-2009, 08:30 PM
This side of the house has always been a garbage dump. It's why this side of the house exists.

Even in a dump you usually keep a Rottweiler and a .223 around to get rid of the vilest scum and varmints. How SHTSPRAYER hasn't received a hollow point to his membership, I'll never know.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 08:34 PM
You can criticize a policy initiative without calling people un-american, socialist, Nazi, be offended at the idea of the President encouraging students etc etc


I can't criticize a socialist policy initiative without calling it socialist. Why would I want to do that?

KCTitus
09-17-2009, 08:37 PM
We've missed you around here. We had alot of good, intelligent arguments back in the day. The percentage of drooling morons is much too high.

Thanks Amnorix...the discourse has definitely changed since back in the day. While it got acerbic, it didnt borderline on the insane.

Simply Red
09-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Pretty simple here,

be nice to most everyone, of course there are exceptions.

Post w/ boldness and confidence, but, take your breaks, we don't want to see ANY of you, ALL of the time.

Ignore who refuses to let bye-gones be, Ignore who irritates you, gets under your skin etc. Even if you have to implement the 'C Piggy' or whatever (I don't use it 'personally')

It's okay to be a dipshit or whiff, occasionally (in a thread, misunderstanding disagreement in which you're wrong.) Just remember to ask about people. Show concern, check in (even if it's only a 'hello') People like recognition on here.

Don't 'pile on' if you don't have any personal beef (that's what is silly.)

But the main thing is: Have fun.

banyon
09-17-2009, 08:41 PM
I can't criticize a socialist policy initiative without calling it socialist. Why would I want to do that?

Whatever you do, don't make any distinctions that would keep you from using the label as broadly as possible for things you don't like.

RJ
09-17-2009, 09:11 PM
This place is a real cess pool lately. Ugh.


Change the name? I'd be in favor of shutting it down if I didn't think it would run over to the main forum.

You know that tfg dude? He says he came here looking for info about a college football player. But apparently he stayed for the DC Forum. Stop and think about that, folks. That demented motherfucker saw this forum and knew he had found a home. That's not good.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks Amnorix...the discourse has definitely changed since back in the day. While it got acerbic, it didnt borderline on the insane.


Bah. The tone around politics in this place has never changed. If there was ever a golden age it was because there was more diversity of opinion due to politics being allowed on the main forum. Of course, a lot of Republicans left this place when it was clear that Bush had lost the ideological edge in the national debate and either Hillary or Obama would be the next president.

The tone hasn't changed. The number of participants has...

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:14 PM
Change the name? I'd be in favor of shutting it down if I didn't think it would run over to the main forum.

You know that tfg dude? He says he came here looking for info about a college football player. But apparently he stayed for the DC Forum. Stop and think about that, folks. That demented mother****er saw this forum and knew he had found a home. That's not good.

Today was the first day I even noticed he was alive.

RJ
09-17-2009, 09:16 PM
Today was the first day I even noticed he was alive.


Yeah, but he's here and living large. He'll probably invite some friends at some point.

Bearcat
09-17-2009, 09:18 PM
ROFL

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:25 PM
Whatever you do, don't make any distinctions that would keep you from using the label as broadly as possible for things you don't like.

I don't like federal socialism. Any distinctions you'd care to mention?

NewChief
09-17-2009, 09:25 PM
I think this is in large part true. It's not enough to fight the opposition politically -- one must revile them. Generally hate them personally and everything they stand for. Believe, firmly, that they are RUINING the country and that their mistakes will be paid for by the next 10 generations.

This seems to have always been the case in American politics, more or less, going back to Adams/Jefferson, Adams/Jackson, and on from there. It's just that now, everyone gets to participate, and not just those in the political elite. The marginalization/elimination of moderates, however, might be posing a real problem for effective governance.

So true. Except you're missing one valuable part of the equation. All the bastards in Washington that we're "cheering" for are all slapping each other on the back, chummy as can be, while they eat porter house steaks and drink good wine. The sports metaphor can't be used enough. Fans of teams get absolutely insane in their hatred of the opposition. Meanwhile, the actual players slap each other on the butts after a game and send Christmas cards to each other. Why? Because the game pays them and they recognize that it's just a game. Unfortunately, the fans can't maintain that distance and wrap their entire ego into cheering for a team.

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 09:27 PM
I don't like federal socialism. Any distinctions you'd care to mention?

You're just hitting a nerve with him because that's where he really sits. Hey! It happens. Truth has a way of doing that.

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:28 PM
This place is a real cess pool lately. Ugh.

ROFL


Couldnt take it anymore either, heh?

ROFL

Even I said good ole SHTSPRAYER has finally flipped his lid..lol

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:29 PM
It's a shame that a mod went through with this suggestion.

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:30 PM
It's a shame that a mod went through with this suggestion.

Dude, STFU with your high and mighty opinion...lol..you have your own board to be ashamed of ;)

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:31 PM
Dude, STFU with your high and mighty opinion...lol..you have your own board to be ashamed of ;)


There are a lot of good people in this forum.

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:33 PM
There are a lot of good people in this forum.

The point was (and you didnt get it)..talking politics will never make anybody buddy buddy..there will always be fights and it will never be civil..

Taco John
09-17-2009, 09:35 PM
The point was (and you didnt get it)..talking politics will never make anybody buddy buddy..there will always be fights and it will never be civil..

Who are you again?

Whoever the mod is that changed the forum title probably doesn't spend enough time in this forum to know the good people that are in this forum. I think it's a shame that they'd slander everyone in this forum because Banyon is having a bad day.

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:36 PM
Who are you again?

Whoever the mod is that changed the forum title probably doesn't spend enough time in this forum to know the good people that are in this forum. I think it's a shame that they'd slander everyone in this forum because Banyon is having a bad day.

Yeah, a hypocritical pos admin from a rival forum (who doesnt post IN HIS OWN POLITICAL forum) is gonna critique the mods here?

ROFL

Youre a fucking joke

DaFace
09-17-2009, 09:46 PM
Who are you again?

Whoever the mod is that changed the forum title probably doesn't spend enough time in this forum to know the good people that are in this forum. I think it's a shame that they'd slander everyone in this forum because Banyon is having a bad day.

Dude. It's funny. Lighten up, Francis.

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:48 PM
Dude. It's funny. Lighten up, Francis.

Who are you?


ROFL



Good job btw...fuck taco..lol

BucEyedPea
09-17-2009, 09:48 PM
OMG I never even noticed the change in the forum name!

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 09:50 PM
OMG I never even noticed the change in the forum name!

I did, lol..I looked for it and was like...''OMG, DID THEY DELETE THE FORUM''

ROFL

Then I gave it a second look and laughed out loud

KILLER_CLOWN
09-17-2009, 09:54 PM
You guys should change the forum name, now Acorn will be here to cleanse the good people of this forum.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 10:02 PM
Yeah, a hypocritical pos admin from a rival forum (who doesnt post IN HIS OWN POLITICAL forum) is gonna critique the mods here?




It's difficult for me to post in the political forum over there because of my mod status. I'd rather post over here where the only power I have is that of my opinions.

Pioli Zombie
09-17-2009, 10:06 PM
Ok I take back my earlier criticism of the Mods. My humblest apologies. This is hysterical. Better than a ban by far.
Posted via Mobile Device

Bill Parcells
09-17-2009, 10:06 PM
It's difficult for me to post in the political forum over there because of my mod status. I'd rather post over here where the only power I have is that of my opinions.

That's fine. and I understand that. but CP has it's own uniqueness (you should know that). and you (of all people) shouldnt be the one to critique it..lol. and thats my opinion

luv
09-17-2009, 10:15 PM
Who are you again?

Whoever the mod is that changed the forum title probably doesn't spend enough time in this forum to know the good people that are in this forum. I think it's a shame that they'd slander everyone in this forum because Banyon is having a bad day.

It draws some attention.

What great marketing skills our mods must have!

Taco John
09-17-2009, 10:16 PM
That's fine. and I understand that. but CP has it's own uniqueness (you should know that). and you (of all people) shouldnt be the one to critique it..lol. and thats my opinion

You have your opinion, I have mine. My opinion is that this forum is mostly filled with good people who have good intentions and that they shouldn't be slandered by a bored mod. I understand the joke, and the fact that I mentioned it will probably make the mod keep it up longer. But he'll get what he's attracting to this forum and it will drive the good people out.

I think it's a poor way to run a forum. That's my educated opinion.

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 10:21 PM
Oh, I don't know.

I think a forum title like that, even temporarily, forces the people involved to get some thicker skin.

I think everybody around here could use thicker skin.

Yourself included, TJ. If not moreso.

luv
09-17-2009, 10:24 PM
You have your opinion, I have mine. My opinion is that this forum is mostly filled with good people who have good intentions and that they shouldn't be slandered by a bored mod. I understand the joke, and the fact that I mentioned it will probably make the mod keep it up longer. But he'll get what he's attracting to this forum and it will drive the good people out.

I think it's a poor way to run a forum. That's my educated opinion.

So, only the elite get to post here? Definitely leaves me out. I'll just go back to the cardboard box which is the Lounge.

Taco John
09-17-2009, 10:28 PM
Oh, I don't know.

I think a forum title like that, even temporarily, forces the people involved to get some thicker skin.

I think everybody around here could use thicker skin.

Yourself included, TJ. If not moreso.



I agree with the thicker skin comment. The people complaining that this forum is so much different than it ever has been should be first in line. There's nothing different here than it was any other time. Just people reacting to the race baiting that is currently happening on a national level.

dirk digler
09-17-2009, 10:39 PM
I for one think it is funny as hell that DaFace changed the name. People around here walk around with too tight of a stick up their ass.

Second in all my time here I have never seen the type of racist posts that has been happening here for almost a year now. And honestly it is really just a couple of people but they do tarnish what little good is in this forum. Other than the racists this forum is the same as it ever was it is just happening to Obama supporters now instead of Bush supporters.

googlegoogle
09-17-2009, 10:40 PM
This place is a real cess pool lately. Ugh.

Then you should look at yourself and your party first.

:eek:

googlegoogle
09-17-2009, 10:42 PM
I agree with the thicker skin comment. The people complaining that this forum is so much different than it ever has been should be first in line. There's nothing different here than it was any other time. Just people reacting to the race baiting that is currently happening on a national level.

Thanks Dummocrap party.

Bwana
09-17-2009, 10:43 PM
Ok I take back my earlier criticism of the Mods. My humblest apologies. This is hysterical. Better than a ban by far.
Posted via Mobile Device

No one gives a rats ass what you think lash boy. :shake:

Why don't you make yourself useful and go fetch us a beer....bitch.

Mr. Kotter
09-17-2009, 10:45 PM
You have your opinion, I have mine. My opinion is that this forum is mostly filled with good people who have good intentions and that they shouldn't be slandered by a bored mod. I understand the joke, and the fact that I mentioned it will probably make the mod keep it up longer. But he'll get what he's attracting to this forum and it will drive the good people out.

I think it's a poor way to run a forum. That's my educated opinion.

:spock:

GFY....seriously.

THIS is the biggest hoot--and draw D.C. has had in years--except, of course, the hilarity of the half-baked conspiracy theorists in this joint.

LMAO

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 10:46 PM
Thanks Dummocrap party.

That'll catch on.

Reaper16
09-17-2009, 10:49 PM
I love the new name. Its so accurate.

Mr. Kotter
09-17-2009, 10:49 PM
That'll catch on.

It should... :D

Mr. Kotter
09-17-2009, 10:51 PM
I love the new name. Its so accurate.

Glad to see such self-awareness, that you EMBRACE the "moron" label. :thumb:

Self-discovery is the beginning of peace... :)

Direckshun
09-17-2009, 10:51 PM
It should... :D

Versus the Repooplican'ts?

Mr. Kotter
09-17-2009, 10:52 PM
Versus the Repooplican'ts?

That's pretty accurate too, these days... :hmmm:

Reaper16
09-17-2009, 10:54 PM
Glad to see such self-awareness, that you EMBRACE the "moron" label. :thumb:

Self-discovery is the beginning of peace... :)
I prefer 'Moran,' personally.

kcfanXIII
09-17-2009, 11:12 PM
He is right if you don't agree with Obama you are a racist and only morons agree with him. So the title fits :)

proof that the majority of citizens in the united states are morons. the morons were able to vote him in.

blaise
09-17-2009, 11:33 PM
If you can't go on an internet message board without encountering racists and morons then what's left?

I think the OP is pretty lame though. If you want to call someone out as a racist, put a name on it.

J Diddy
09-17-2009, 11:34 PM
I love the new name. Its so accurate.

Check this out. I might be out in left field on this but what the hell. If you disagree with obamas politics, okay. If you agree with his leadership, okay. If you can't refrain from referring to him as an uppity black person (or worse) I say you're a racist.

It's just IMO, respect it, deflect it or forget it.

blaise
09-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Check this out. I might be out in left field on this but what the hell. If you disagree with obamas politics, okay. If you agree with his leadership, okay. If you can't refrain from referring to him as an uppity black person (or worse) I say you're a racist.
It's just IMO, respect it, deflect it or forget it.

That's what I don't get about the thread's premise though. Aside from one person who's saying anything like that?

Dave Lane
09-18-2009, 12:00 AM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

Its why I've been staying away. It literally has been making me sick lately

Mr. Kotter
09-18-2009, 12:18 AM
Its why I've been staying away. It literally has been making me sick lately

Gosh, Dave; you have a more tolerant stomach than I....it's been this way...oh, about 2-3 years or so. Welcome to the club...

:spock:

Oh, wait...it's the turn-about-is-fair-play part that you don't like. My bad....



:)

J Diddy
09-18-2009, 12:21 AM
That's what I don't get about the thread's premise though. Aside from one person who's saying anything like that?

honestly, it's gotten to that

folks are really pushing the limits of civil respect

Some people are even going so far as to push the limits of the race envelope

J Diddy
09-18-2009, 12:22 AM
Gosh, Dave; you have a more tolerant stomach than I....it's been this way...oh, about 2-3 years or so. Welcome to the club...

:spock:

Oh, wait...it's the turn-about-is-fair-play part that you don't like. My bad....



:)

kotter, U R A KOK

Mr. Kotter
09-18-2009, 12:24 AM
kotter, U R A KOK

Ah, see "Same as it ever was..." in here, despite the left wing "revelations"..... :thumb:

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Ultra Peanut
09-18-2009, 01:49 AM
I don't disagree, but let's be honest about why it's happening. You can't have honest criticisms of this administration without being labeled as racist. This is the natural backlash of a lot of Democrats refusing to debate the issues on their merits and racing towards the gutter.http://j.photos.cx/3916563236_c420ba2a2a-ff5.jpg

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J Diddy
09-18-2009, 02:38 AM
Jake Tyler Brigance: We're going to lose this case, Carl lee. There are no more points of law to argue here. I want to cope a plea, maybe Buckley will cop us a second degree murder and we can get you just life in prison.
Carl Lee Hailey: Jake, I can't do no life in prison. You got to get me off. Now if it was you on trial...
Jake Tyler Brigance: It's not me, we're not the same, Carl Lee. The jury has to identify with the defendant. They see you, they see a yardworker; they see me, they see an attorney. I live in town, you live in the hill.
Carl Lee Hailey: Well, you are white and I'm black. See Jake, you think just like them, that's why I picked you; you are one of them , don't you see?. Oh, you think you ain't because you eat in Claude's and you are out there trying to get me off on TV talking about black and white, but the fact is you are just like all the rest of them. When you look at me, you don't see a man, you see a black man.
Jake Tyler Brigance: Carl Lee, I'm your friend.
Carl Lee Hailey: We ain't no friends, Jake. We are on different sides of the line, I ain't never seen you in my part of town. I bet you don't even know where I live. Our daughters, Jake; they ain't never gonna play together.
Jake Tyler Brigance: What are you talking about?
Carl Lee Hailey: America is a wall and you are on the other side. How's a black man ever going to get a fair trial with the enemy on the bench and in the jury box?. My life in white hands? You Jake, that's how. You are my secret weapon because you are one of the bad guys. You don't mean to be but you are. It's how you was raised. Nigger, negro, black, African-american, no matter how you see me, you see me different, you see me like that jury sees me, you are them. Now throw out your points of law Jake. If you was on that jury, what would it take to convince you to set me free? That's how you save my ass. That's how you save us both.

Bootlegged
09-18-2009, 05:07 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_orkXxp0bhEA/SPJgcOvCNhI/AAAAAAAAJ1M/WOv6EkwEnzc/s400/081012-obama-acorn-trainer.jpg

Barack Obama’s Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Articles Recovered
Posted by admin
October 9, 2008
Barack Obama’s Involvement with ACORN Unearthed, Missing Articles Recovered

While Barack Obama’s connection with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) has not gone entirely unreported, it has not been fully explained. Most media background pieces simply note Obama’s involvement in a 1995 lawsuit on behalf of ACORN. Obama’s own website, as well as most major media, fail to reveal the full depth and extent of his relationship with the organization.

Attempts to hide evidence of Obama’s involvement with ACORN have included wiping the web clean of potentially damaging articles that had appeared, and were previously publicly accessible. Unfortunately, those behind the attempted cover-up failed to realize that in today’s day and age, nothing disappears forever. There also exists another layer of the web, the hidden web, which is full of information included in proprietary scholarly databases where these very same “missing” articles can be easily uncovered.

Obama’s campaign website states:

Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

Is that really a FACT, or just another lie? Let’s take a look at a quote from a 2004 article - Case Study: Chicago- The Barack Obama Campaign - written Toni Foulkes, a Chicago ACORN Leader, which was published in the journal Social Policy. Did we mention that Social Policy recently pulled this particular article from their website, while leaving links to all articles up?

“Obama took the case, known as ACORN vs. Edgar (the name of the Republican governor at the time) and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5,000 of them).

Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends.“

Not only does Foulkes boast of Obama’s ACORN leadership training, but also makes it clear that Obama’s post-law school organizing of “Project VOTE” in 1992 was undertaken in direct partnership with ACORN. The tie between Project VOTE and ACORN is also something that Obama and others have attempted to disprove in recent weeks as ACORN has come under fire for allegations of voter registration fraud.

As recently as March 2008, the Los Angeles Times also made reference to Barack Obama’s involvement with ACORN:

“At the time, Talbot worked at the social action group ACORN and initially considered Obama a competitor. But she became so impressed with his work that she invited him to help train her staff.” (LA Times, March 2, 2008)

All this information was easily pulled up with minimal time investment. It took less than thirty minutes to find, despite attempts by some to bury the truth. If I could find this with little effort, imagine what could be dug up with a serious, in-depth investigation. Scary, isn’t it?

Nevertheless, Barack Obama’s campaign website continues to lie and deny the truth about his involvement and association with ACORN. No matter how many times you say it, it does not make it true. The facts do not lie, Senator Obama. It’s time to come clean and tell the truth, and it’s time for the American people to demand it.

Bootlegged
09-18-2009, 05:08 AM
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patteeu
09-18-2009, 05:50 AM
Are you telling me conservative politicians during the run-up and in the hottest moments of the Iraq war weren't saying that liberals and opponents to the war in Iraq didn't want America to win in the war against terror?

That we were actively pushing for the terrorists to win?

I mean, this shit now from some Democratic politicians is goofy-ass race baiting, but we're going to pretend similarly retarded shit wasn't a regular occurrence during the Bush administration?

It was pretty clear that many of you (maybe not you specifically) didn't want to win in Iraq and actively tried to prevent us from winning there.

patteeu
09-18-2009, 05:59 AM
FYP. I agree, the place has been more than a bit over the top with insane rantings and paranoia.

I'm amused by the hatred of the right towards Obama on economic matters because I'm finding it tough to find too much that's different about him from Bush, other than the HC issue. But we see alot of raving over the stimulus and bank bailouts and the like that are basically identical to what Bush was doing.

I just try to pick my spots and ignore, to the extent I can, the more insane rantings. It's piontless to debate the drooling loons.

1. Bush spending is to Obama spending as a cut that requires a few stitches is to a traumatic amputation.

2. Obama's economic policies are far more redistributive than Bush's were.

patteeu
09-18-2009, 06:10 AM
These things move in waves. It's been a long time since the days of fist fights on the floor of the Senate, but who knows any more. Personally, I think most of the acrimony of the last 35 years is a direct result of the anger the Right felt over the ouster of Nixon, and it's all been downhill from there.

The Right was responsible for the ouster of Nixon. If Right wing anger has anything to do with this, it's got more to do with the left's smearing of Judge Bork and their demonization of Reagan than anything about Nixon, IMO.

Saul Good
09-18-2009, 06:13 AM
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I didn't recognize those people. Are they Senators and ex-presidents?

patteeu
09-18-2009, 06:13 AM
Bah. The tone around politics in this place has never changed. If there was ever a golden age it was because there was more diversity of opinion due to politics being allowed on the main forum. Of course, a lot of Republicans left this place when it was clear that Bush had lost the ideological edge in the national debate and either Hillary or Obama would be the next president.

The tone hasn't changed. The number of participants has...

+1

BigRedChief
09-18-2009, 06:24 AM
I for one think it is funny as hell that DaFace changed the name. People around here walk around with too tight of a stick up their ass.

Second in all my time here I have never seen the type of racist posts that has been happening here for almost a year now. And honestly it is really just a couple of people but they do tarnish what little good is in this forum. Other than the racists this forum is the same as it ever was it is just happening to Obama supporters now instead of Bush supporters.
It's just a symptom of the larger social problem in America. It seems like the closet racists feel like they can come out of the closet and disrupt the debate and shout real loud and change things or distract the debate from the core issues.

I'm real disappointed in the Republican base not denouncing the extreme views voiced at their gatherings. The Democrats did the same thing in the late 60's, early 70's. If the extremes actions are seen as useful to the mainstream, they let it slide or just provide lip service to denouncing those views.

Someone is going to get killed over politics in this country, and soon.

As late as 2000 the major party candidate that got the most votes didn't win the election. The state that decided the election was controlled by the candidates brother. Despite that, no violence occured. What will happen next time? Gun battles, assisanation?

Norman Einstein
09-18-2009, 06:28 AM
I've never seen this forum when it was just thread after thread of "blacks did this" "they're racists" "the President's a racist" "let's have a Klan rally" "It's the end of the world".

It's like a southern redneck mental institution in here.

You seem to miss the differences between not agreeing politically with the president and racism.

Most of the racism I've seen this year has been from the White House.

I've seen the word used mostly by liberals that think that Obama is the second coming. Well, in a way they are right, what we have here is Jimmy Carter II.

BigRedChief
09-18-2009, 06:31 AM
Most of the racism I've seen this year has been from the White House.
Links?

Iowanian
09-18-2009, 06:36 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32899516/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/

Everybody's racist, it seems.

Republican Rep. Joe Wilson? Racist, because he shouted "You lie!" at the first black president. Health care protesters, affirmative action supporters? Racist. And Barack Obama? He's the "Racist in Chief," wrote a leader of the recent conservative protest in Washington.

But if everybody's racist, is anyone?

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The word is being sprayed in all directions, creating a hall of mirrors that is draining the scarlet R of its meaning and its power, turning it into more of a spitball than a stigma.

"It gets to the point where we don't have a word that we use to call people racist who actually are," said John McWhorter, who studies race and language at the conservative Manhattan Institute.

"The more abstract and the more abusive we get in the way we use the words, then the harder it is to talk about what we originally meant by those terms," he said.

What the word once meant — and still does in Webster's dictionary — is someone who believes in the inherent superiority of a particular race or is prejudiced against others.

Ammunition for civil rights movement
This definition was ammunition for the civil rights movement, which 50 years ago used a strategy of confronting racism to build moral leverage and obtain equal rights.

Overt bigotry waned, but many still see shadows of prejudice across the landscape and cry racism. Obama's spokesman has rejected suggestions that racism is behind criticism of the president, but others saw Wilson's eruption during the presidents' speech as just that.

"I think (Wilson's outburst) is based on racism," former President Jimmy Carter said at a town hall meeting. "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

That's an easy charge to make against the rare individual carrying an "Obamacare" sign depicting the president as an African witch doctor with a bone through his nose. But it's almost impossible to prove — or refute — assertions that bias, and not raw politics, fuels opposition to Obama.

"You have to be very careful about going down that road. You've cried wolf," said Sean Wilentz, a Princeton University professor who studies U.S. political and social history.

"It's a way of interpreting the world, where race runs through everything — everything is about race," said Wilentz, who supported Hillary Clinton in 2008 and claimed Obama's campaign falsely accused her of stoking racial fears.

"Everything is not about race," he said. "It's not Mississippi in 1965 any more. Even in Mississippi it's not Mississippi in 1965 any more."

Major factor in American life
Still, race remains a major factor in American life, said Brian D. Smedley, director of the health policy institute at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, which focuses on people of color.

"We know from a large body of social science that a large portion of Americans harbor racial bias," Smedley said. "In the context of health reform, it's quite evident that race plays a very large role in helping shape public opinion."

Yet Smedley chooses not to deploy the R-word: "It's difficult to say racism is the reason (for objections to health care) because people don't believe they are racist."

Many, though, have no doubt that other people are racist — even when those other people are black.

The Manhattan Institute's McWhorter said that during the affirmative action battles of the 1990s, "racism" and "racist" began to be applied to liberal policies designed to redress past discrimination, then were extended to people who believed in those policies.

That's how they have come to be wielded against Obama.

"A racist is a person who discriminates or holds prejudices based on race. Discrimination is treatment based on category rather than individual merit," said Tom Molloy, a 65-year-old retired financial services executive from Brentwood, N.H. "Barack Obama favors policies that will give preference to groups based on race rather than individual merit. It's called affirmative action."

Mark Williams, one of the leaders of the Sept. 12 rallies in Washington D.C., headlined a blog entry about the arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his own home by a white police officer, "Racist In Chief Obama Fanning Flames of Racism." And too many bloggers to count are saying that Congressman Jim Clyburn, who marched with Martin Luther King Jr. and has called Wilson and other health care protesters racist, is the real racist himself.

Saul Good
09-18-2009, 06:37 AM
Someone is going to get killed over politics in this country, and soon.


You mean besides the anti-abortion protester?

Baby Lee
09-18-2009, 06:38 AM
It's a shame that a mod went through with this suggestion.

How do you neg rep an entire bulletin board?

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 06:41 AM
It's just a symptom of the larger social problem in America. It seems like the closet racists feel like they can come out of the closet and disrupt the debate and shout real loud and change things or distract the debate from the core issues.

Especially when there's enough to get him on policy-wise. I mean he provides riches for the opposition there alone.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 06:41 AM
How do you neg rep an entire bulletin board?

ROFL LMAO ROFL

O. M. G. That is so funny!

Saul Good
09-18-2009, 06:42 AM
Especially when there's enough to get him on policy-wise. I mean he provides riches for the opposition there alone.

That's the problem. There is no longer a distinction. It's become binary with many. You either support everything the democrats do, or you are a racist.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 07:01 AM
That's the problem. There is no longer a distinction. It's become binary with many. You either support everything the democrats do, or you are a racist.

That is a load of bs. 98% of the conservatives or liberals here I would never call a racist unless they started dropping n-bombs and such.

patteeu
09-18-2009, 07:12 AM
It's difficult for me to post in the political forum over there because of my mod status. I'd rather post over here where the only power I have is that of my opinions.

I think that makes sense.

Donger
09-18-2009, 07:16 AM
Should it not be: "Racists and Morons"?

blaise
09-18-2009, 07:17 AM
That is a load of bs. 98% of the conservatives or liberals here I would never call a racist unless they started dropping n-bombs and such.

That's why I think banyon's OP is crap. I feel like he sort of paints anti-Obama sentiment here as racist as a whole. I agree that you don't do it, but I think banyon's post more or less does. That's why I said if you (banyon or anyone else) want to call someone out, then call them out. Otherwise you're just sort of confirming what people have been saying- that if you criticise Obama you're racist. By failing to name any specific names banyon is accusing everyone that doesn't like Obama, in my mind.

patteeu
09-18-2009, 07:20 AM
Jake Tyler Brigance: We're going to lose this case, Carl lee. There are no more points of law to argue here. I want to cope a plea, maybe Buckley will cop us a second degree murder and we can get you just life in prison.
Carl Lee Hailey: Jake, I can't do no life in prison. You got to get me off. Now if it was you on trial...
Jake Tyler Brigance: It's not me, we're not the same, Carl Lee. The jury has to identify with the defendant. They see you, they see a yardworker; they see me, they see an attorney. I live in town, you live in the hill.
Carl Lee Hailey: Well, you are white and I'm black. See Jake, you think just like them, that's why I picked you; you are one of them , don't you see?. Oh, you think you ain't because you eat in Claude's and you are out there trying to get me off on TV talking about black and white, but the fact is you are just like all the rest of them. When you look at me, you don't see a man, you see a black man.
Jake Tyler Brigance: Carl Lee, I'm your friend.
Carl Lee Hailey: We ain't no friends, Jake. We are on different sides of the line, I ain't never seen you in my part of town. I bet you don't even know where I live. Our daughters, Jake; they ain't never gonna play together.
Jake Tyler Brigance: What are you talking about?
Carl Lee Hailey: America is a wall and you are on the other side. How's a black man ever going to get a fair trial with the enemy on the bench and in the jury box?. My life in white hands? You Jake, that's how. You are my secret weapon because you are one of the bad guys. You don't mean to be but you are. It's how you was raised. ****er, negro, black, African-american, no matter how you see me, you see me different, you see me like that jury sees me, you are them. Now throw out your points of law Jake. If you was on that jury, what would it take to convince you to set me free? That's how you save my ass. That's how you save us both.

That's the democrat's race message in a nutshell. Republicans now own "content of character" and have for quite some time.

Donger
09-18-2009, 07:26 AM
I think it is pretty admirable of banyon to suggest this change, since it acknowledges the inherent racism of Obama followers.

Look, here's an example:

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 07:30 AM
That's why I think banyon's OP is crap. I feel like he sort of paints anti-Obama sentiment here as racist as a whole. I agree that you don't do it, but I think banyon's post more or less does. That's why I said if you (banyon or anyone else) want to call someone out, then call them out. Otherwise you're just sort of confirming what people have been saying- that if you criticise Obama you're racist. By failing to name any specific names banyon is accusing everyone that doesn't like Obama, in my mind.

If you want names I will give you my list. TFG, shtsprayer, bootlegg, valipass(he is right on the edge), and kcnative.

If there is others I may have missed them. Also I will add that IMHO this place is the same as it always has been. But instead of Jaz and Denise spamming the board with Bush hate we now have pete, honestchieffan, and shtsprayer spamming the board with Obama hate. When a Republican becomes POTUS it will flip back the other way it is just the way it goes.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 07:35 AM
That's why I think banyon's OP is crap. I feel like he sort of paints anti-Obama sentiment here as racist as a whole. I agree that you don't do it, but I think banyon's post more or less does. That's why I said if you (banyon or anyone else) want to call someone out, then call them out. Otherwise you're just sort of confirming what people have been saying- that if you criticise Obama you're racist. By failing to name any specific names banyon is accusing everyone that doesn't like Obama, in my mind.

Let me add one thing Blaise I don't think Banyon paints anti-Obama sentiment racist as a whole I think certain conservatives try to make it seem that anytime they criticize Obama they will be called a racist on this board. I think that is total complete BS.

blaise
09-18-2009, 07:37 AM
If you want names I will give you my list. TFG, shtsprayer, bootlegg, valipass(he is right on the edge), and kcnative.

If there is others I may have missed them. Also I will add that IMHO this place is the same as it always has been. But instead of Jaz and Denise spamming the board with Bush hate we now have pete, honestchieffan, and shtsprayer spamming the board with Obama hate. When a Republican becomes POTUS it will flip back the other way it is just the way it goes.


See, I have more respect for you because at least you say who you think is crossing the line. I agree with almost all of that, except even though kcnative can be a jerk- almost every one of his posts calls someone an idiot or some other insult, I don't remember any ethnic or racial stuff. I just don't see why every post of his has to be, "You must be the dumbest ass on the planet" or something like that. And I don't know who bootlegged is.

blaise
09-18-2009, 07:42 AM
Let me add one thing Blaise I don't think Banyon paints anti-Obama sentiment racist as a whole I think certain conservatives try to make it seem that anytime they criticize Obama they will be called a racist on this board. I think that is total complete BS.

I agree with that, too. I think most of the "If you criticise Obama, you're a racist" anger is toward the politicians that have been implying that lately. I don't feel like anyone here specifically says anti-Obamaism is racism, until now, because that's sort of the effect banyon's post has in my opinion, due to his lack of naming names. I can see how you would see that differently though. I'm not tremendously upset by it because I doubt he had some sinister plot to portray conservatives as racist. I think he was just frustrated by some of the things he's read here lately and just wanted to blow off a little steam. However, I think part of the effect of the OP was to cast conservatives as racists here.

Chief Henry
09-18-2009, 07:43 AM
That's the problem. There is no longer a distinction. It's become binary with many. You either support everything the democrats do, or you are a racist.

Hammer - Nail

When whitey voted for obama, he wasn't racist.

patteeu
09-18-2009, 07:53 AM
If you want names I will give you my list. TFG, shtsprayer, bootlegg, valipass(he is right on the edge), and kcnative.

If there is others I may have missed them. Also I will add that IMHO this place is the same as it always has been. But instead of Jaz and Denise spamming the board with Bush hate we now have pete, honestchieffan, and shtsprayer spamming the board with Obama hate. When a Republican becomes POTUS it will flip back the other way it is just the way it goes.

I don't agree with your inclusion of bootlegged, vailpass, or kc native. I think both SHTSPRAYER and TFG have crossed the line at times, but SHTSPRAYER has plenty of redeeming qualities whereas I find it hard to see much in TFG beyond the entertainment value of the spectacle he makes of himself.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 07:57 AM
except even though kcnative can be a jerk- almost every one of his posts calls someone an idiot or some other insult, I don't remember any ethnic or racial stuff. I just don't see why every post of his has to be, "You must be the dumbest ass on the planet" or something like that.

And then cries about it being done to him.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 08:00 AM
This seems like a good place to point out that Dirk called Ron Paul a racist because some people around him were which is no different than Obama having been associated with racists like Rev Wright. At least Paul ditched the person at some point and long ago unlike Obama. Paul simply believes in freedom for all. He himself isn't a racist. But that didn't stop some on the left from turning that into something it wasn't...including Dirk.

Sorry Dirk. I like ya' but there's a bit of projection here going on.

Frazod
09-18-2009, 08:01 AM
LMAO PERFECT!!!! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!!!!

Does anybody know which mod/admin renamed this shithole? I must bless them with my Giant Rep Stick.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-18-2009, 08:09 AM
This seems like a good place to point out that Dirk called Ron Paul a racist because some people around him were which is no different than Obama having been associated with racists like Rev Wright. At least Paul ditched the person at some point and long ago unlike Obama. Paul simply believes in freedom for all. He himself isn't a racist. But that didn't stop some on the left from turning that into something it wasn't...including Dirk.

Sorry Dirk. I like ya' but there's a bit of projection here going on.

People called Ron Paul a racist b/c his OWN FUCKING NEWSLETTER said the best way to stop the LA Riots was to hand out welfare checks on the spot.

Some more gems:

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.”

wild1
09-18-2009, 08:15 AM
People called Ron Paul a racist b/c his OWN ****ING NEWSLETTER said the best way to stop the LA Riots was to hand out welfare checks on the spot.

Some more gems:

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.”

I think that was Rockwell, was it not?

ChiTown
09-18-2009, 08:17 AM
I think calling Democrats racists and morons is a bit over the top, but I'll go along with it for now...........

Mr. Flopnuts
09-18-2009, 08:17 AM
LMAO PERFECT!!!! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!!!!!

Does anybody know which mod/admin renamed this shithole? I must bless them with my Giant Rep Stick.

LOL It was your favorite mod. DaFace.

Frazod
09-18-2009, 08:23 AM
LOL It was your favorite mod. DaFace.

He's my favorite mod now. :D

Radar Chief
09-18-2009, 08:27 AM
Also I will add that IMHO this place is the same as it always has been. But instead of Jaz and Denise spamming the board with Bush hate we now have pete, honestchieffan, and shtsprayer spamming the board with Obama hate. When a Republican becomes POTUS it will flip back the other way it is just the way it goes.

Yup. It's just a different group getting the red ass. :clap:

MOhillbilly
09-18-2009, 08:28 AM
Even SHARPS listen to Skrewdriver.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 08:48 AM
See, I have more respect for you because at least you say who you think is crossing the line. I agree with almost all of that, except even though kcnative can be a jerk- almost every one of his posts calls someone an idiot or some other insult, I don't remember any ethnic or racial stuff. I just don't see why every post of his has to be, "You must be the dumbest ass on the planet" or something like that. And I don't know who bootlegged is.

The only reason I threw KC Native in there is because it seems to me he is so quick to throw the race card around. In fact out of anybody on this board I think he uses it more than anyone especially when vali and Otter are around.

Norman Einstein
09-18-2009, 08:50 AM
Links?

Try watching the news, the popular government media as well as those that show the side that the government media won't. It's all there for the viewing on a daily basis.

NewChief
09-18-2009, 08:52 AM
Even SHARPS listen to Skrewdriver.

Heh. You see the Working Class Skin entry on yourscenesucks.com?

Norman Einstein
09-18-2009, 08:53 AM
I think calling Democrats racists and morons is a bit over the top, but I'll go along with it for now...........

The democrats are already covered by both existing titles, why be redundant?

BigChiefFan
09-18-2009, 09:17 AM
I see divide and conquer is in full working order.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 09:22 AM
This seems like a good place to point out that Dirk called Ron Paul a racist because some people around him were which is no different than Obama having been associated with racists like Rev Wright. At least Paul ditched the person at some point and long ago unlike Obama. Paul simply believes in freedom for all. He himself isn't a racist. But that didn't stop some on the left from turning that into something it wasn't...including Dirk.

Sorry Dirk. I like ya' but there's a bit of projection here going on.

Hamas answered this better than I ever could. Ron Paul's newsletter had some pretty racist stuff in there. Whether he wrote it or not no one is sure of since no one has come out to confess that they did. But it is his newsletter with his name on it so he should have at least looked at it before publishing it.

vailpass
09-18-2009, 09:48 AM
Obama the great uniter.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:21 AM
And then cries about it being done to him.

ROFL Ah that's good coming from the infantile fake ignorer.

Reaper16
09-18-2009, 10:22 AM
The only reason I threw KC Native in there is because it seems to me he is so quick to throw the race card around. In fact out of anybody on this board I think he uses it more than anyone especially when vali and Otter are around.
Well, you can't blame kcnative for that.

vailpass
09-18-2009, 10:23 AM
ROFL Ah that's good coming from the infantile fake ignorer.

There goes the neighborhood.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:26 AM
If you want names I will give you my list. TFG, shtsprayer, bootlegg, valipass(he is right on the edge), and kcnative.

If there is others I may have missed them. Also I will add that IMHO this place is the same as it always has been. But instead of Jaz and Denise spamming the board with Bush hate we now have pete, honestchieffan, and shtsprayer spamming the board with Obama hate. When a Republican becomes POTUS it will flip back the other way it is just the way it goes.

Dude, I have never painted anyone that opposes Obama as racist. That's bullshit. I have taken issue with the racist attitudes toward Hispanics out here and those people that have refused to condemn outright racism. What's sad about it is because it's popular to hate illegals and blast their culture nothing really gets said by anyone other than Taco and I about it.

Norman Einstein
09-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Obama the great disrupter.

FYP
no thanks necessary.

ChiTown
09-18-2009, 10:35 AM
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Donger
09-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Dude, I have never painted anyone that opposes Obama as racist. That's bullshit. I have taken issue with the racist attitudes toward Hispanics out here and those people that have refused to condemn outright racism. What's sad about it is because it's popular to hate illegals and blast their culture nothing really gets said by anyone other than Taco and I about it.

That's because most sane people acknowledge that there's a massive difference between disliking illegal Mexicans and disliking Hispanics in general.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:41 AM
That's because most sane people acknowledge that there's a massive difference between disliking illegal Mexicans and disliking Hispanics in general.

I think the proper phrase here is fuck off.

Swanman
09-18-2009, 10:42 AM
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I'm just sayin'

Donger
09-18-2009, 10:43 AM
I think the proper phrase here is **** off.

Yeah, that's about right.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 10:43 AM
Hamas answered this better than I ever could. Ron Paul's newsletter had some pretty racist stuff in there. Whether he wrote it or not no one is sure of since no one has come out to confess that they did. But it is his newsletter with his name on it so he should have at least looked at it before publishing it.

It was also debunked, by a gay libertarian no less, line by line. ( Don't forget Paul was also accused of being anti gay.) I don't expect any lefty to see the reasoning behind it or the facts. Some things about blacks as a group just happen to be true. Calling it racism is a way to shut down debate on those points.

The thing is you guys see it everywhere and refuse to see how Obama was a long time member of a Black Liberation Theology church and has now consistently promoted that ideology so far in office.

You wouldn't see that under Ron Paul. He would simply leave those people alone, ( his philosophy) agree with them when there is an overlap like how many blacks tend to embrace Marxism as a way to lift their people up—which you see in full play under Obama to date. But he'd also agree with blacks on too many of them being in jail unfairly due to drug charges and on Rosa Parks. So it's a mix.

There's a real difference here. One is a freedom philosophy the other is regulation of thought and opinion.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 10:44 AM
Dude, I have never painted anyone that opposes Obama as racist. That's bullshit. I have taken issue with the racist attitudes toward Hispanics out here and those people that have refused to condemn outright racism. What's sad about it is because it's popular to hate illegals and blast their culture nothing really gets said by anyone other than Taco and I about it.

I wasn't talking about opposing Obama and calling them racists I was just speaking in general terms. My perception is you use the race card alot and alot of people on this board call you out on that. You can agree or disagree on that it is just my perception.

Norman Einstein
09-18-2009, 10:45 AM
That's because most sane people acknowledge that there's a massive difference between disliking illegal Mexicans and disliking Hispanics in general.

Most sane people have no problems with anyone that have immigrated legally from any nation on the earth. The illegals are called that because of the fact they have broken the immigration laws of the U.S.

If Mr. Donger broke a U.S. law he would most likely be placed in a home with windows obstructed by bars.

In Oklahoma in the past month there was a hit and run that killed a retired doctor. When the person responsible was finally found he admitted that he stopped because he didn't have a drivers license, it was later found he didn't have a drivers license because he was an illegal alien.

At least we know of one illegal that has committed a crime that will pay for his transgretions, BUT now he becomes a burden in another manner to the taxpayers of the U.S.

Donger
09-18-2009, 10:46 AM
I wasn't talking about opposing Obama and calling them racists I was just speaking in general terms. My perception is you use the race card alot and alot of people on this board call you out on that. You can agree or disagree on that it is just my perception.

KCnative's fatal flaw is that he thinks that Mexican = race. It's kind of funny, really.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 10:48 AM
I think that was Rockwell, was it not?

No it wasn't. Rockwell was having surgery when that propaganda broke out. He flat out denied it later. The guy who wrote it was sacked. I think you should also read what was actually said, being that you're a right-winger. I fail to see how some of it could not be agreed with by you. Like the crime and violence during the King riots, embracing Marxism, King's ties to unsavory characters and his affairs. If it's true it's true. It's just a way to shut down debate. There were about 4 lines that one could say went too far in the end. Gay libertarian Justin Raimondo parsed each and every one of them, including the gay slurs against Paul. Lastly, the Paul campaign knew it was going to be used. Paul wanted to explain it but his handlers wouldn't let him because it would not be understood, taken out of context and exploited.

Fact remains. He is not a racist. That's a bald and basic fact. Every party has elements in it that can be embarrassing.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 10:48 AM
It was also debunked, by a gay libertarian no less, line by line. ( Don't forget Paul was also accused of being anti gay.) I don't expect any lefty to see the reasoning behind it or the facts. Some things about blacks as a group just happen to be true. Calling it racism is a way to shut down debate on those points.

The thing is you guys see it everywhere and refuse to see how Obama was a long time member of a Black Liberation Theology church and has now consistently promoted that ideology so far in office.

You wouldn't see that under Ron Paul. He would simply leave those people alone, ( his philosophy) agree with them when there is an overlap like how many blacks tend to embrace Marxism as a way to lift their people up—which you see in full play under Obama to date.

There's a real difference here. One is a freedom philosophy the other is regulation of thought and opinion.

Not that I don't believe you but do you have a link for that? That was such a long time ago my Alzheimers kicks in. As wild suggested I know people thought it was Lew Rockwell but I don't remember him fessing up to it.

Chief Faithful
09-18-2009, 10:50 AM
Who said "Let's have a Klan rally"?

I've not heard that quote, but that is the essence of the nonsense coming out of Hank Johnson mouth.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 10:52 AM
KCnative's fatal flaw is that he thinks that Mexican = race. It's kind of funny, really.

And that finance is economics.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:53 AM
KCnative's fatal flaw is that he thinks that Mexican = race. It's kind of funny, really.

And your fatal flaw is that you are a giant coward who refuses to take a firm stand and refuse to admit they are wrong even under any circumstances.

BucEyedPea
09-18-2009, 10:53 AM
Not that I don't believe you but do you have a link for that? That was such a long time ago my Alzheimers kicks in. As wild suggested I know people thought it was Lew Rockwell but I don't remember him fessing up to it.

I put it up then right to a site that had all of them. You'll have to do the search as I am going to have to get something done this afternoon.

BTW I edited the post you quoted. I made an addition about Paul thinking too many blacks are unfairly in jail due to drug charges too.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:55 AM
I wasn't talking about opposing Obama and calling them racists I was just speaking in general terms. My perception is you use the race card alot and alot of people on this board call you out on that. You can agree or disagree on that it is just my perception.

On this one you would be wrong. There's been a lot of racist material directed at Hispanics out here recently. This thread is spot on because in the short time that I have been posting out here it has gotten worse.

Donger
09-18-2009, 10:55 AM
And your fatal flaw is that you are a giant coward who refuses to take a firm stand and refuse to admit they are wrong even under any circumstances.

Says the guy that thinks Mexican is a race? Hilarity.

If you want my opinion on something, just ask. I doubt that many others here share your perception.

And, I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. If you doubt that, perhaps you should do a search?

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:56 AM
And that finance is economics.

ROFL So how are you defining these terms today?

blaise
09-18-2009, 10:56 AM
And your fatal flaw is that you are a giant coward who refuses to take a firm stand and refuse to admit they are wrong even under any circumstances.

Dude, no one here ever admits to being wrong.

KC native
09-18-2009, 10:57 AM
Says the guy that thinks Mexican is a race? Hilarity.

If you want my opinion on something, just ask. I doubt that many others here share your perception.

And, I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. If you doubt that, perhaps you should do a search?

Please show me where I have ever said Mexican is a race.

Donger
09-18-2009, 11:03 AM
Please show me where I have ever said Mexican is a race.

I don't believe you have. What you have done is accuse people who don't like illegal Mexicans as being racist. So, it seems rather simple to conclude that you think Mexican is a race.

Is that incorrect?

Donger
09-18-2009, 11:07 AM
Dude, no one here ever admits to being wrong.

I do:

1) True. I was completely wrong about this election. I've no problem admitting that.

It will indeed be a fun ride.

But, next time, be more precise, okay?

2) I didn't believe he would, no. I was wrong. I clearly underestimated the gullibility of the American electorate.

3) No spin, I read the post wrong. I thought he was saying Obama would win Western PA. But you're right, that's not what he's saying.

KC native
09-18-2009, 11:12 AM
I don't believe you have. What you have done is accuse people who don't like illegal Mexicans as being racist. So, it seems rather simple to conclude that you think Mexican is a race.

Is that incorrect?

ROFL Wow, working overtime on the semantics today huh? You are totally incorrect. Do you think it's reasonable to assume that all illegals that are brown are Mexican? You are aware that there are other countries who have people who resemble Mexicans right? I have ignored the broad generalizations out here due to the simple minds that inhabit it. If many of these posters are as misguided as they are about the facts of the situation adding any complexity such as the fact that illegals also come from many Central and South American countries would only complicate their misunderstanding even more.

FTR, I have never said anyone who doesn't like illegals as being racist for simply not liking illegals. There are many posters out here that I have disagreed with on illegal immigration out here that are clearly not racist. I just called a spade a spade and then condemned you for being a pussy and not condemning outright racism.

Donger
09-18-2009, 11:21 AM
ROFL Wow, working overtime on the semantics today huh? You are totally incorrect. Do you think it's reasonable to assume that all illegals that are brown are Mexican? You are aware that there are other countries who have people who resemble Mexicans right? I have ignored the broad generalizations out here due to the simple minds that inhabit it. If many of these posters are as misguided as they are about the facts of the situation adding any complexity such as the fact that illegals also come from many Central and South American countries would only complicate their misunderstanding even more.

FTR, I have never said anyone who doesn't like illegals as being racist for simply not liking illegals. There are many posters out here that I have disagreed with on illegal immigration out here that are clearly not racist. I just called a spade a spade and then condemned you for being a pussy and not condemning outright racism.

Brown? What does that have to do with anything? Folks like myself and vailpass have a problem with illegals in general. The fact is that the majority of them are Mexican, and being of Mexican heritage yourself, you seem to defend their being here.

If a bunch of white Canadians were streaming over the border illegally, you'd see the same response from me, probably with a lot of jokes about hockey.

But, since they are not, let's deal with the facts, shall we?

Please give me example of the outright racism of which you speak, BTW.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 11:24 AM
I put it up then right to a site that had all of them. You'll have to do the search as I am going to have to get something done this afternoon.

BTW I edited the post you quoted. I made an addition about Paul thinking too many blacks are unfairly in jail due to drug charges too.

I did look up the 2 threads we had about this topic and in neither of those threads did anyone have a link or information that these were debunked. Ron Paul had a newsletter, he knew about said newsletter, he just said he didn't know about the contents of said newsletter. Even TJ agreed with me when I said RP knew who wrote that crap he just didn't want to expose them. Also in both threads I never called RP a racist and I said if more evidence comes out then I would reconsider that.



I am not a RP hater and I don't think he is a racist and I do appreciate that he apologized for it but IMHO he needs to go further and find out who wrote these underneath his name and expose that person or persons.

Fair enough. Personally I don't know whether to believe it or not until more info comes out. When the information comes out and if there is racists statements in those papers then I will find it very hard to believe that RP knew nothing about them.

KC native
09-18-2009, 11:26 AM
Brown? What does that have to do with anything? Folks like myself and vailpass have a problem with illegals in general. The fact is that the majority of them are Mexican, and being of Mexican heritage yourself, you seem to defend their being here.

If a bunch of white Canadians were streaming over the border illegally, you'd see the same response from me, probably with a lot of jokes about hockey.

But, since they are not, let's deal with the facts, shall we?

Please give me example of the outright racism of which you speak, BTW.

I'm not doing your homework for you. You know it has happened and the fact that you want to continue to play games shows how big a coward you really are.

Donger
09-18-2009, 11:28 AM
I'm not doing your homework for you. You know it has happened and the fact that you want to continue to play games shows how big a coward you really are.

Let me get this straight: you make a claim (and a rather nasty one at that) and then refuse to back it up with evidence, and I'm the coward?

Stinger
09-18-2009, 11:31 AM
On this one you would be wrong. There's been a lot of racist material directed at Hispanics out here recently. This thread is spot on because in the short time that I have been posting out here it has gotten worse.

:hmmm:

OK we found the problem everyone can go home now.



LMAO

KC native
09-18-2009, 12:03 PM
Let me get this straight: you make a claim (and a rather nasty one at that) and then refuse to back it up with evidence, and I'm the coward?

I'm not going to play along with your willful ignorance on this. It's been pointed out to you by other posters too and you continue to play these games. You are a coward.

Donger
09-18-2009, 12:07 PM
I'm not going to play along with your willful ignorance on this. It's been pointed out to you by other posters too and you continue to play these games. You are a coward.

To the best of my recollection, neither you nor any other person has given an example of this racism. Therefore, may I suggest that you refrain from throwing that label out there without specific examples?

It makes you look, well, silly, weak and demonstrably pathetic.

KC native
09-18-2009, 12:09 PM
To the best of my recollection, neither you nor any other person has given an example of this racism. Therefore, may I suggest that you refrain from throwing that label out there without specific examples?

It makes you look, well, silly, weak and demonstrably pathetic.

ROFL Ah that's rich coming from the pussy that never takes a firm stand on anything so he can avoid admitting he's wrong.

Donger
09-18-2009, 12:10 PM
ROFL Ah that's rich coming from the pussy that never takes a firm stand on anything so he can avoid admitting he's wrong.

I just posted three examples where I admitted I was wrong. See, it's called evidence.

dirk digler
09-18-2009, 12:11 PM
I just posted three examples where I admitted I was wrong. See, it's called evidence.

Wait you lied to me. Just a couple of weeks ago you said you have never been wrong. Asshole



:)

MOhillbilly
09-18-2009, 03:01 PM
Heh. You see the Working Class Skin entry on yourscenesucks.com?

long time ago.:)

WilliamTheIrish
09-18-2009, 04:46 PM
You mean besides the anti-abortion protester?

James was killed over politics? Link, please.

RJ
09-18-2009, 05:23 PM
There are a lot of good people in this forum.


There are. But there are also large numbers of the "drooling loons" Amnorix mentioned. I've never posted much over here but in the past I would read quite often. The conversations were sometimes harsh but they were usually informative. That's not true any longer. Lately, anything informative would just be buried under all the name calling. Or, in other words, I can't find the smart guys for all the morons.

RJ
09-18-2009, 05:26 PM
James was killed over politics? Link, please.


I've been following that story pretty close, it's interesting. It seems almost certain that Pouillon was not killed over politics, but rather the way of delivering his message to the town. He was not a well liked man. Not that it makes him any less dead, but it seems the shooter wasn't politically motivated at all.

Pioli Zombie
09-18-2009, 05:29 PM
To the best of my recollection, neither you nor any other person has given an example of this racism. Therefore, may I suggest that you refrain from throwing that label out there without specific examples?

It makes you look, well, silly, weak and demonstrably pathetic.

How about
"Blacks primarily are a dysfunctional burden on society" -Shitsprayer.
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WilliamTheIrish
09-18-2009, 05:30 PM
I've been following that story pretty close, it's interesting. It seems almost certain that Pouillon was not killed over politics, but rather the way of delivering his message to the town. He was not a well liked man. Not that it makes him any less dead, but it seems the shooter wasn't politically motivated at all.

Me too. I've read damn near everything there is on the Harlan Drake. Drake didn't have any history of pro or anti abortion activity. He disliked the sign guy because Drake's a sick, twisted murderous nutjob.

banyon
09-18-2009, 07:23 PM
That's why I think banyon's OP is crap. I feel like he sort of paints anti-Obama sentiment here as racist as a whole. I agree that you don't do it, but I think banyon's post more or less does. That's why I said if you (banyon or anyone else) want to call someone out, then call them out. Otherwise you're just sort of confirming what people have been saying- that if you criticise Obama you're racist. By failing to name any specific names banyon is accusing everyone that doesn't like Obama, in my mind.

I'm glad that you had that little conversation in your mind about the purpose of my thread, but no I was referring to all of the "blacks did this, etc." threads that were being meekly tolerated and not anti-Obama derangement, though it is certainly over the top in its own right.

RJ
09-18-2009, 07:38 PM
Me too. I've read damn near everything there is on the Harlan Drake. Drake didn't have any history of pro or anti abortion activity. He disliked the sign guy because Drake's a sick, twisted murderous nutjob.


Have you been following the message boards on the local papers? Sounds like a lot of people, including some in his own family, detested Pouillon. If you believe their version of things, he was a very abusive man, particularly toward women. While no one really contests his abusiveness, others say that he found God and turned his life around and should be forgiven for his past.

Anyway, it's a compelling story. I'll be surprised if a book (or books) isn't written on the subject of Pouillon's life and death.

Bwana
09-18-2009, 08:29 PM
How about
"Blacks primarily are a dysfunctional burden on society" -Shitsprayer.
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:spock:

Link?

I think he may have been talking about you if he brought up a dredge on society. Speaking of which, aren't you late for you night gig? You know the one, hanging out at truck stops sucking off truckers for loose change?

You better grab the lip balm and haul ass chop chop! :thailor:

banyon
09-18-2009, 08:39 PM
:spock:

Link?

I think he may have been talking about you if he brought up a dredge on society. Speaking of which, aren't you late for you night gig? You know the one, hanging out at truck stops sucking off truckers for loose change?

You better grab the lip balm and haul ass chop chop! :thailor:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=214156&page=22

Pioli Zombie
09-18-2009, 08:49 PM
Thank you, Banyon. 9/16/09 4:11PM
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Bwana
09-18-2009, 08:53 PM
Thank you, Banyon. 9/16/09 4:11PM
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Yep, he is a dipshit for posting something like that, but that doesn't take away from the fact that you're late for your night gig "Hot Lips."

Pioli Zombie
09-18-2009, 09:00 PM
:spock:

Link?

I think he may have been talking about you if he brought up a dredge on society. Speaking of which, aren't you late for you night gig? You know the one, hanging out at truck stops sucking off truckers for loose change?

You better grab the lip balm and haul ass chop chop! :thailor:
Your Idiot Father should have taken time out from raping you and your mother to teach you about having some class. And just cuz he got off on little boys doesn't mean you have to. Break the cycle, Bwana!!
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Bwana
09-18-2009, 09:14 PM
Your Idiot Father should have taken time out from raping you and your mother to teach you about having some class. And just cuz he got off on little boys doesn't mean you have to. Break the cycle, Bwana!!
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*YAWN* Thats' the best you have dipshit? Roll on out to the local truck stop Lash Boy. There's change to be made! Chop Chop Gaylord chop chop!

On a side note, you sure do bring up the term getting off on "little boys" A LOT. Are you sure you not doing a little projecting of some deep dark twisted fantasies you have. On a serious note, if that's the case, seek some fucking help! :shake:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:BaKaM7upI6kGkM:http://co.burke.nc.us/wp-content/uploads/truckdrivers002.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://co.burke.nc.us/wp-content/uploads/truckdrivers002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://co.burke.nc.us/departments/general-services/waste-management-division/&usg=__JEUyF87xs2mnGEx-dJdXhmifWgQ=&h=500&w=662&sz=53&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=BaKaM7upI6kGkM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtruck%2Bdriving%2Btrash%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1)

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KCTitus
09-18-2009, 09:20 PM
Dude, no one here ever admits to being wrong.

I have and have even admitted re-thinking my positions...it was at least 3 years ago, so Im not going to bother with searching for the subject.

Some of us have intellectual honesty...some just shill for a party line.

Pioli Zombie
09-18-2009, 09:35 PM
*YAWN* Thats' the best you have dipshit? Roll on out to the local truck stop Lash Boy. There's change to be made! Chop Chop Gaylord chop chop!

On a side note, you sure do bring up the term getting off on "little boys" A LOT. Are you sure you not doing a little projecting of some deep dark twisted fantasies you have. On a serious note, if that's the case, seek some fucking help! :shake:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:BaKaM7upI6kGkM:http://co.burke.nc.us/wp-content/uploads/truckdrivers002.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://co.burke.nc.us/wp-content/uploads/truckdrivers002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://co.burke.nc.us/departments/general-services/waste-management-division/&usg=__JEUyF87xs2mnGEx-dJdXhmifWgQ=&h=500&w=662&sz=53&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=BaKaM7upI6kGkM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtruck%2Bdriving%2Btrash%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:qZh0ELZqcfgbGM:http://blogs.mercola.com/ImageServer/public/2006/12--december/12.20Chapstick.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://blogs.mercola.com/ImageServer/public/2006/12--december/12.20Chapstick.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogs.mercola.com/sites/vitalvotes/87181.aspx&usg=__4nRqlMyD_Gbw7ziM76MBnuPKQJQ=&h=200&w=200&sz=15&hl=en&start=6&um=1&tbnid=qZh0ELZqcfgbGM:&tbnh=104&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchapstick%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1)

Says the guy who brings up sucking off truckers. A not so secret fantasy of yours,eh?
You should rename your yourself Butthole Pleasures.
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Bwana
09-18-2009, 10:46 PM
Says the guy who brings up sucking off truckers. A not so secret fantasy of yours,eh?
You should rename your yourself Butthole Pleasures.
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Sure thing you pedophile freak. :shake:

Pioli Zombie
09-19-2009, 06:48 AM
People say all the time " Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" "Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" And I say people should stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender. If you have evidence that Bwana is a level 3 sex offender than come forward with it. Otherwise, stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!!
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Bwana
09-19-2009, 06:58 AM
People say all the time " Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" "Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" And I say people should stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender. If you have evidence that Bwana is a level 3 sex offender than come forward with it. Otherwise, stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!!
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ROFL

You are a complete joke Nancy.

Shocking you are one of the 3 top bottom feeders in the rep department in the history of the Planet.

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BucEyedPea
09-19-2009, 07:05 AM
People say all the time " Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" "Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!" And I say people should stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender. If you have evidence that Bwana is a level 3 sex offender than come forward with it. Otherwise, stop saying Bwana is a level 3 sex offender!!
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And you say I label? At least mine are accurate and based on standard defiinitions

Mizzou_8541
09-19-2009, 07:06 AM
Your Idiot Father should have taken time out from raping you and your mother to teach you about having some class. And just cuz he got off on little boys doesn't mean you have to. Break the cycle, Bwana!!
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Weren't you the one looking for a "civilized discussion" recently?

Pioli Zombie
09-19-2009, 07:06 AM
ROFL

You are a complete joke Nancy.

Shocking you are one of the 3 top bottom feeders in the rep department in the history of the Planet.

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Unlike losers like you I don't care about "Rep". On this site its meaningless because people can hit the little button over and over. So if you piss off 5 people they can spend all day "punishing you" its meaningless. But go to sleep at night all safe and comfy and feeling good inside that people like you Bwana. You are ok. You've got green rep. All it means is you you don't say anything important. And you're popular with anonymous internet boobs. Wow.
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BucEyedPea
09-19-2009, 07:08 AM
I did look up the 2 threads we had about this topic and in neither of those threads did anyone have a link or information that these were debunked. Ron Paul had a newsletter, he knew about said newsletter, he just said he didn't know about the contents of said newsletter. Even TJ agreed with me when I said RP knew who wrote that crap he just didn't want to expose them. Also in both threads I never called RP a racist and I said if more evidence comes out then I would reconsider that.

It's there. I remember it. It was around fall of 2007. It was linked to Taki's site with a long article by Justin Raimondo which took each part of them in sections up.

BTW where did I say anything about whether or not Paul knew who wrote them, at least in this current conversation? I actually said he canned the man; and that Lew Rockwell denied writing them. They're not at all Lew's writing style either. And I read Lew Rockwell daily as my that's my home page.

You certainly were very willing and eager to believe Paul was a racist because your posts at the time were evident of that since that's what the conversation was about. Whether you came right out and used the word, I don't recall exactly. At the very least it was implied since that was the intent of those using the newsletters.

Bwana
09-19-2009, 07:17 AM
Unlike losers like you I don't care about "Rep". On this site its meaningless because people can hit the little button over and over. So if you piss off 5 people they can spend all day "punishing you" its meaningless. But go to sleep at night all safe and comfy and feeling good inside that people like you Bwana. You are ok. You've got green rep. All it means is you you don't say anything important. And you're popular with anonymous internet boobs. Wow.
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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you turned into a bitter little twat after your rep hit rock bottom.

As far as "saying anything important" you have sure done a great job of that!
You know slappy, if you were only in the red and not in THE TOP 3 IN THE HISTORY of the Planet, you would have a point. All that tells people, is you are not worth the time of day and a waste of key strokes. Keep up the good work Ace! :thumb:

banyon
09-19-2009, 07:38 AM
And you say I label? At least mine are accurate and based on standard defiinitions

:spock:ROFLROFL

BucEyedPea
09-19-2009, 08:08 AM
Your Post #28 shows clearly what your view is including the smiley. Really I find it odd for an Obama supporter who has what I consider far less savory characters around it like Ayers, Wright and other communists.
Most Americans just don't buy that "whitey" is responsible for all the woes in the black community and parts of these newsletters take that position.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=178330&highlight=newsletters&page=2

I was not correct about the earlier date....it's appears to be January 2008 this came up. There's another thread by pat "Magic 8 Ball" in the title. Not sure where I put my link, but I did find something close to the original article by Raimondo...only it doesn't include all the sections. He does highlight the four that are incendiary whereas many of the other ones are true like the violence of the riots.

http://www.takimag.com/site/article/why_the_beltway_libertarians_are_trying_to_smear_ron_paul/

Cannibal
09-19-2009, 08:13 AM
Unlike losers like you I don't care about "Rep". On this site its meaningless because people can hit the little button over and over. So if you piss off 5 people they can spend all day "punishing you" its meaningless. But go to sleep at night all safe and comfy and feeling good inside that people like you Bwana. You are ok. You've got green rep. All it means is you you don't say anything important. And you're popular with anonymous internet boobs. Wow.
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ROFL

RINGLEADER
09-19-2009, 08:39 AM
This is the democrats strategy right now, no? Call everybody racist, and incite a race-based furor that they hope will cause right leaning moderates to decide that they rather have socialized medicine afterall than hang tight with the insensitive fringe...

Pretty much.

They've tried just about everything to give the members of congress cover on the issue of health care to marginalize the opposition and stifle dissent.

The politicians have tried to repackage this thing about ten different ways since July but at the core of their efforts are the same failed concepts.

The Democrats just don't seem to get the fact that the vast majority of people like their insurance and do not trust that they or their plan will make things better.

Pioli Zombie
09-19-2009, 09:31 AM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you turned into a bitter little twat after your rep hit rock bottom.

As far as "saying anything important" you have sure done a great job of that!
You know slappy, if you were only in the red and not in THE TOP 3 IN THE HISTORY of the Planet, you would have a point. All that tells people, is you are not worth the time of day and a waste of key strokes. Keep up the good work Ace! :thumb:

Really? I thought was at the bottom because, according to a few of you, I WAS a bitter little twat. Which one is it? And if I'm not worth the time of the day why are you talking to me so much.
Get a life, Bwana.
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Pioli Zombie
09-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Weren't you the one looking for a "civilized discussion" recently?

Yeah, I had forgotten that this is Chiefs Planet. Hey, I don't look to start things but when Bwana, Skip, Bug or whoever starts something I can certainly respond.
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Bill Parcells
09-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Your Idiot Father should have taken time out from raping you and your mother to teach you about having some class. And just cuz he got off on little boys doesn't mean you have to. Break the cycle, Bwana!!
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How old are you? really? I mean are you breaking out the kindergarten joke book? lol...try adding something witty..mother jokes? :spock:

You're not funny at all..lol..maybe thats why youre in the red?

Bill Parcells
09-19-2009, 10:19 AM
It's a shame that a mod went through with this suggestion.

Hola Muchacho :D


You can sleep better at night now knowing that your beloved ChiefsPlanet forum (including your highly educated opinion lol) has returned to its righteous name.

ROFL

Donger
09-19-2009, 10:19 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=214156&page=22

Most definitely racist.

vailpass
09-19-2009, 10:20 AM
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you turned into a bitter little twat after your rep hit rock bottom.

As far as "saying anything important" you have sure done a great job of that!
You know slappy, if you were only in the red and not in THE TOP 3 IN THE HISTORY of the Planet, you would have a point. All that tells people, is you are not worth the time of day and a waste of key strokes. Keep up the good work Ace! :thumb:

ROFL Pisshole Zamboni

Bill Parcells
09-19-2009, 10:21 AM
Maybe Taco should be renamed Dr zaius ''defender of the faith''

http://markjeffrey.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/21/dr_zaius_2.jpg

Bwana
09-19-2009, 10:30 AM
Really? I thought was at the bottom because, according to a few of you, I WAS a bitter little twat. Which one is it? And if I'm not worth the time of the day why are you talking to me so much.
Get a life, Bwana.
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Valid point and I think I'll take that to heart. Not unlike your wife, I think I'll leave you in the dust now. :Pinky:

banyon
09-19-2009, 10:39 AM
Most definitely racist.

Glad you finally agree. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-19-2009, 10:58 AM
You want some more. This is all from the School Bus thrad:

"Ain't no black people who like white people, except fat white women"
"Barely descended from apes"
"Chimpanzees"
"****a, ignorant animals"
"The most disgusting rude behavior is committed by blacks"
"Black people are more racist than anyone"
"Dark skin lets them hide in the shadows"
"Coloreds"
"Damn bunch of animals"
"All they do is sing, rape, kill, do the ho"

KILLER_CLOWN
09-19-2009, 11:05 AM
Great a racial division thread, let's talk some more about how were "Different" while the Republic falls.

Reaper16
09-19-2009, 11:50 AM
You want some more. This is all from the School Bus thrad:
And those aren't just from one poster, either. Sad.

Pioli Zombie
09-19-2009, 12:21 PM
You want some more. This is all from the School Bus thrad:

But all they were doing was "questioning the healthcare program"
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dirk digler
09-19-2009, 08:11 PM
Glad you finally agree. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.

You know if Donger thinks what Shtsprayer said was racist that means it was pretty bad.

But you notice all of shtsprayers apologists, ie patteeu, never have the balls to stand up to him and tell him that he is a racist POS. Also his apologists, ie patteeu, stand around and pat shtsprayer on the butt while he drops the n-word 500 times in one thread and don't say a negative word to him at all and accuse people who are offended by it race baiters.

dirk digler
09-19-2009, 08:21 PM
Your Post #28 shows clearly what your view is including the smiley. Really I find it odd for an Obama supporter who has what I consider far less savory characters around it like Ayers, Wright and other communists.
Most Americans just don't buy that "whitey" is responsible for all the woes in the black community and parts of these newsletters take that position.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=178330&highlight=newsletters&page=2



That is because that was in the beginning and his manager was making stupid statements that weren't true. I have since evaluated all the evidence and come to the conclusion that I don't think RP is racist but I believe he knew about the newsletter and let it precede because he probably didn't read it or really had no control over it. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless something else comes up.

NewChief
09-19-2009, 09:47 PM
Come on guys. Shitsprayer isn't a racist. He just doesn't like black people.

WilliamTheIrish
09-19-2009, 11:18 PM
Oh Blackwater, keep on hiring, the Afghani moon gonna keep on shining on meeeeeee./SHT

patteeu
09-21-2009, 06:58 AM
You know if Donger thinks what Shtsprayer said was racist that means it was pretty bad.

But you notice all of shtsprayers apologists, ie patteeu, never have the balls to stand up to him and tell him that he is a racist POS. Also his apologists, ie patteeu, stand around and pat shtsprayer on the butt while he drops the n-word 500 times in one thread and don't say a negative word to him at all and accuse people who are offended by it race baiters.

This is a lie coming from a race baiter who likes to smear people with the racist charge all too much whether they deserve it or not. I've told SHTSPRAYER that he's crossed the line before. It's just that I don't do it in cases where he hasn't crossed any lines like you want me to, nor do I think it's my responsibility to follow him around and add my weight to the mob who are more than ready to jump on him whenever he says something the least bit controversial. As far as I'm concerned, what you do (cavalierly throwing around the racist charge whether it's warranted or not) is worse than what SHTSPRAYER does in the larger scheme of things.