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Coogs
09-20-2009, 10:40 AM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09/19/game_summary_raidersh/

INACTIVES ARE IN

September 20th – 10:36 AM

Chiefs
Tyler Thigpen - 3rd QB
WR Terrance Copper
QB Matt Gutierrez
CB Ricardo Coclough
RB Jamaal Charles
C/G Andy Alleman
TE Brad Cottam
LB Pierre Walters

DeezNutz
09-20-2009, 10:41 AM
Charles?

Injured?

Coogs
09-20-2009, 10:41 AM
What's up with Charles?

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:41 AM
no Thiggy or Charles?!?!? NO WILDCAT?!?!?

doomy3
09-20-2009, 10:42 AM
Good to see Thigpen and Gut inactive. Must mean Cassel is close to 100%.

WTF is Jamaal Charles inactive though???

LaChapelle
09-20-2009, 10:42 AM
The Thigcat is dead. Thigpen was only insurance for Croyle.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:43 AM
I bet Scurry goes for 100 today...

Coogs
09-20-2009, 10:43 AM
No Copper. Wade is in.

The Bad Guy
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
Gutierrez should enjoy his last day as a member of the Chiefs today.

Stewie
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
So, we still don't know if it's Croyle/Cassel or Cassel/Croyle?

kstater
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
DOOMED

the Talking Can
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
damn, wut up charles

Deberg_1990
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
Only 2 Active QB's today??

Blindside58
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
Charles???...Just read that Wes Welker is inactive as well for the Pats, for FFBers..

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 10:44 AM
35 carries for Larry

pound that fucking rock

(for 85 yards lol)

Coogs
09-20-2009, 10:45 AM
Only 2 Active QB's today??

Same thing as last week.

Stewie
09-20-2009, 10:45 AM
Justin Fargas is inactive. That guy gashed us a couple of years ago.

kstater
09-20-2009, 10:46 AM
Only 2 Active QB's today??

Frees up a roster spot. If 2 QB's go down enough to stay out, TT is the emergency QB. If he comes in, the other two can't come back in.

the Talking Can
09-20-2009, 10:47 AM
No Copper. Wade is in.

hope they get him some plays on offense

DaneMcCloud
09-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Charles just isn't an NFL back. He just cannot stay healthy.

Same as last year.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Justin Fargas is inactive. That guy gashed us a couple of years ago.

I wish Fargas was active and was the #1 back...Run DMC scurrrs me.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:48 AM
Charles just isn't an NFL back. He just cannot stay healthy.

Same as last year.

what a great draft!!

ROFL

Deberg_1990
09-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Charles just isn't an NFL back. He just cannot stay healthy.

Same as last year.

Thanks Herm!

Reerun_KC
09-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Thigpen should enjoy his last day as a member of the Chiefs today.

FYP

The G-man has way more upside than Thigpen....

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:50 AM
FYP

The G-man has way more upside than Thigpen....

Yeah...no.

The Bad Guy
09-20-2009, 10:50 AM
Every NFL team declares their 3rd QB inactive. He's the emergency guy. When he goes in, the other 2 active QBs can not.

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 10:51 AM
Charles just isn't an NFL back. He just cannot stay healthy.

Same as last year.

We don't know that he's injured.

It might be part of the gameplan. Maybe they want to use Battle.

kstater
09-20-2009, 10:51 AM
Yeah...no.

Thigpen is JaMarcus Russel without the strong arm.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:52 AM
Thigpen is JaMarcus Russel without the strong arm.

Yeah...no.

DeezNutz
09-20-2009, 10:53 AM
what a great draft!!

ROFL

It was, actually.

Albert and Flowers. And Morgan will end up being a contributor.

The Bad Guy
09-20-2009, 10:53 AM
what a great draft!!

ROFL

Hilarous.

LaChapelle
09-20-2009, 10:53 AM
At least Charles can't fumble today.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:54 AM
It was, actually.

Albert and Flowers. And Morgan will end up being a contributor.

If I could go back and do it over...I'd just give away all of those picks and keep Jared Allen...including the ones we didn't get in a trade.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:54 AM
We don't know that he's injured.

It might be part of the gameplan. Maybe they want to use Battle.

Sounds like a WPI exclusive!

$109.95 FOLKS!

the Talking Can
09-20-2009, 10:54 AM
without charles we'll be the slowest offense in history

DeezNutz
09-20-2009, 10:56 AM
If I could go back and do it over...I'd just give away all of those picks and keep Jared Allen...including the ones we didn't get in a trade.

Nah. Especially if we're still going to the 34 with him.

But between LJ and JA, we definitely chose unwisely.

Mr. Laz
09-20-2009, 10:57 AM
Whatever will we do without terrance Copper?

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 10:58 AM
Nah. Especially if we're still going to the 34 with him.

But between LJ and JA, we definitely chose unwisely.

If Tamba Hali can transition from a 4-3 end to a 3-4 LB and be successful, I'm pretty sure Jared Allen could have been DeMarcus Ware for us.

Coogs
09-20-2009, 10:58 AM
I wonder if Wade is going to be a return guy today since Charles is down?

DeezNutz
09-20-2009, 10:59 AM
If Tamba Hali can transition from a 4-3 end to a 3-4 LB and be successful, I'm pretty sure Jared Allen could have been DeMarcus Ware for us.

Has he?

Last week I saw one sack and a lot of Hali getting put on his ass. And I'm not even touching the Ware bit, cause you've clearly been smoking.

morphius
09-20-2009, 10:59 AM
I think they decided to give savage a try since he is a better returner than Charles.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:00 AM
our return game is so pathetic I almost miss the last few years of Dante Hall

Stewie
09-20-2009, 11:00 AM
I wonder if Wade is going to be a return guy today since Charles is down?

I would say with 99% certainty that Wade will be the return guy.

Coogs
09-20-2009, 11:00 AM
I would say with 99% certainty that Wade will be the return guy.

Could be Savage.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:01 AM
Has he?

Last week I saw one sack and a lot of Hali getting put on his ass. And I'm not even touching the Ware bit, cause you've clearly been smoking.

I bet Hali ends up with 10 sacks this year...which would be a shocking/successful transition...

AND

What makes you think that Allen couldn't be Ware-esque as a 3-4 rush linebacker?

Bob Dole
09-20-2009, 11:09 AM
Bob Dole is happy not to see Mark Castle's name on that list.

doomy3
09-20-2009, 11:10 AM
Jamaal Charles-RB- Chiefs Sep. 20 - 11:54 am et


Chiefs declared RB Jamaal Charles, OG Andy Alleman, TE Brad Cottam, Matt Gutierrez, LB Pierre Walters, CB Ricardo Colclough, WR Terrance Copper, and third QB Tyler Thigpen inactive for Week 2.
Charles' deactivation is a big surprise because he is healthy. The Chiefs may be rolling with only Jackie Battle behind Larry Johnson with plans to attack the Raiders on the ground. Charles is a passing-down specialist.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:22 AM
Jamaal Charles-RB- Chiefs Sep. 20 - 11:54 am et


Chiefs declared RB Jamaal Charles, OG Andy Alleman, TE Brad Cottam, Matt Gutierrez, LB Pierre Walters, CB Ricardo Colclough, WR Terrance Copper, and third QB Tyler Thigpen inactive for Week 2.
Charles' deactivation is a big surprise because he is healthy. The Chiefs may be rolling with only Jackie Battle behind Larry Johnson with plans to attack the Raiders on the ground. Charles is a passing-down specialist.

What the fuck.........

I'm sorry, the guy is our best RB.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:23 AM
What the ****.........

I'm sorry, the guy is our best RB.
well...shows how much you know ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:24 AM
well...shows how much you know ROFL

Yeah, because Larry Johnson, Jackie Battle, and Dantrell Savage offer any playmaking ability.

Chocolate Hog
09-20-2009, 11:26 AM
Jackie Battle is one of those medicore players most on this board love

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:26 AM
Yeah, because Larry Johnson, Jackie Battle, and Dantrell Savage offer any playmaking ability.

yeah...I mean...Larry didn't run for a huge gain in the preseason...or two 60+ yard runs last year...

at this point...that's all Larry has to offer...0 yard gains or 15+ yard gains...more A than B...but that's all he is.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:26 AM
I bet Hali ends up with 10 sacks this year...which would be a shocking/successful transition...

AND

What makes you think that Allen couldn't be Ware-esque as a 3-4 rush linebacker?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll83/Khaos2525/facepalm.gif

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:29 AM
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll83/Khaos2525/facepalm.gif

ok buddy...

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:29 AM
yeah...I mean...Larry didn't run for a huge gain in the preseason...or two 60+ yard runs last year...

at this point...that's all Larry has to offer...0 yard gains or 15+ yard gains...more A than B...but that's all he is.

This is the problem with being a box score expert. Did you see those preseason runs? He ran through a 5 yard hole on the left side of the line against St. Louis.

Larry Johnson is a broke dick dog with no vision and no receiving skills. Charles, although not an every down back, gives our offense a dimension and game breaking ability that no one else on O, save for Bowe, does.

DaFace
09-20-2009, 11:30 AM
CBS reports that Cassel is definitely the starter.

Short Leash Hootie
09-20-2009, 11:30 AM
This is the problem with being a box score expert. Did you see those preseason runs? He ran through a 5 yard hole on the left side of the line against St. Louis.

Larry Johnson is a broke dick dog with no vision and no receiving skills. Charles, although not an every down back, gives our offense a dimension and game breaking ability that no one else on O, save for Bowe, does.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Larry turn in a...18 carry, 85 yard performance today.

The Bad Guy
09-20-2009, 11:31 AM
What the ****.........

I'm sorry, the guy is our best RB.

I usually agree with your takes. This isn't one of those times.

kstater
09-20-2009, 11:32 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Larry turn in a...18 carry, 85 yard performance today.

That's what we like to call a dominate RB.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:34 AM
I usually agree with your takes. This isn't one of those times.

You can't agree all the time.

Of course, let's also not forget that being the best of a shit lot doesn't make you a great back.

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 11:34 AM
This is definitely what is going on.

We are loading up with two tight ends and we are going to pound two giant fucking running backs all day long.

Battle and LJ.

All. Fucking. Day.

Smashmouth motherfucking football.

BigMeatballDave
09-20-2009, 11:35 AM
Yeah...no.You're not smart

milkman
09-20-2009, 11:35 AM
I usually agree with your takes. This isn't one of those times.

I usually agree with his takes, as well, and this time in no different.

The Bad Guy
09-20-2009, 11:35 AM
You can't agree all the time.

Of course, let's also not forget that being the best of a shit lot doesn't make you a great back.

No, it doesn't.

But I have seen hardly anything out of Charles that would suggest he's better than LJ, even in his broken down state.

Yes, he's a homerun hitter, but 90% of the time, he can't get his feet under him.

Reerun_KC
09-20-2009, 11:36 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Larry turn in a...18 carry, 85 yard performance today.

That is fail.

But that would be LJ...

Would take a 26 carry 165 yards and 2 tds...

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 11:36 AM
But I have seen hardly anything out of Charles that would suggest he's better than LJ, even in his broken down state.


The Seahawks game he really flashed...

I think people are going to realize he's better when he takes on a guy in the open field by the end of the year.

Pablo
09-20-2009, 11:36 AM
No, it doesn't.

But I have seen hardly anything out of Charles that would suggest he's better than LJ, even in his broken down state.

Yes, he's a homerun hitter, but 90% of the time, he can't get his feet under him.Charles has vision at least. He can hit his first hole. LJ hasn't done that since 2007. And not to mention, it looks like LJ's wearing concrete boots out there.

Charles is the better back right now IMO.

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 11:38 AM
. He can hit his first hole. LJ hasn't done that since 2007.
.

OK, this is retarded.

LJ had a better year last year than 2007.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:38 AM
No, it doesn't.

But I have seen hardly anything out of Charles that would suggest he's better than LJ, even in his broken down state.

Yes, he's a homerun hitter, but 90% of the time, he can't get his feet under him.

And 90% of the time, Larry goes for -1, 0, or 2 yards.

I guess I'll take Adam Dunn over John Buck, even if their average is roughly similar.

milkman
09-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Charles has vision at least. He can hit his first hole. LJ hasn't done that since 2007. And not to mention, it looks like LJ's wearing concrete boots out there.

Charles is the better back right now IMO.

That right there is exactly it in a nutshell.

Chiefaholic
09-20-2009, 11:41 AM
35 carries for Larry

pound that ****ing rock

(for 85 yards lol)

Larry got paid... He's no longer "pissed off larry" and NEVER puts the second effort in that he used to. He used to play to get paid, now he plays not to get injured.

Count Alex's Losses
09-20-2009, 11:44 AM
Larry got paid... He's no longer "pissed off larry" and NEVER puts the second effort in that he used to. He used to play to get paid, now he plays not to get injured.

I personally think this isn't true at all.

Haley wouldn't tolerate it.

There's just no running room.

Chiefshrink
09-20-2009, 11:46 AM
We don't know that he's injured.

It might be part of the gameplan. Maybe they want to use Battle.

You have hit the nail on the head with BATTLE!! Battle has probably outperformed Charles this last week in practice and does NOT fumble the ball! Haley sending a strong Parcells type of message to 'the player'!:thumb:

alanm
09-20-2009, 11:50 AM
Jamaal Charles-RB- Chiefs Sep. 20 - 11:54 am et


Chiefs declared RB Jamaal Charles, OG Andy Alleman, TE Brad Cottam, Matt Gutierrez, LB Pierre Walters, CB Ricardo Colclough, WR Terrance Copper, and third QB Tyler Thigpen inactive for Week 2.
Charles' deactivation is a big surprise because he is healthy. The Chiefs may be rolling with only Jackie Battle behind Larry Johnson with plans to attack the Raiders on the ground. Charles is a passing-down specialist.Jamaal's in the doghouse. :shake:

Reerun_KC
09-20-2009, 11:51 AM
Larry got paid... He's no longer "pissed off larry" and NEVER puts the second effort in that he used to. He used to play to get paid, now he plays not to get injured.

Agree 110%

LJ wont be on this team much longer... Probably survive this year... But RB's are a dime a dozen... Especially ones that are hungry to run and prove themselves in the NFL...

LJ has been paid. He is the new Leon...

alanm
09-20-2009, 11:54 AM
This is the problem with being a box score expert. Did you see those preseason runs? He ran through a 5 yard hole on the left side of the line against St. Louis.

Larry Johnson is a broke dick dog with no vision and no receiving skills. Charles, although not an every down back, gives our offense a dimension and game breaking ability that no one else on O, save for Bowe, does.Spot on. I'll take Charles ability to take it to the house on any given play over Johnson's 0 yds and a cloud of suck every day.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-20-2009, 11:56 AM
And when the actual discussion of football begins, and not just throwing out dipshitted opinions, Hootie, as always, disappears.

Fruit Ninja
09-20-2009, 12:05 PM
Nice play by Flowers