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Tribal Warfare
09-22-2009, 12:30 PM
3-4 prospect position rankings
(http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Top-34-defensive-prospects.html)
With more and more NFL teams making the transition to a 3-4 defense, itís vital for scouts to stay on top of the nationís top potential 3-4 prospects. Today, the National Football Post breaks down the top 3-4 senior defenders and looks at underclassmen who could fit into the 3-4 mold.

Defensive Ends

1. Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-4, 298)
2. Brandon Deaderick, Alabama (6-4, 287)
3. Corey Wootton, Northwestern (6-6, 280)
4. Vince Oghobaase, Duke (6-5, 305)
5. Jeffrey Fitzgerald, Kansas State (6-4, 280)
6. Charles Alexander, LSU (6-4, 298)
7. Doug Worthington, Ohio State (6-5, 276)
8. Lorenzo Washington, Alabama (6-4, 288)
9. Alex Carrington, Arkansas State (6-5, 284)
10. Swanson Miller, Oklahoma State (6-4, 300)


Junior Standouts

1. Carlos Dunlap, Florida (6-6, 290)
2. Cameron Heyward, Ohio State (6-6, 287)
3. Allen Bailey, Miami (6-4, 288)
4. Cameron Jordan, California (6-4, 287)
5. Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson (6-4, 310)

Nose Tackles

1. Terrence Cody, Alabama (6-4, 365)
2. Ekom Udofia, Stanford (6-2, 315)
3. Cam Thomas, North Carolina (6-3, 328)
4. Jeff Owens, Georgia (6-1, 306)
5. Al Woods, LSU (6-4, 312)
6. DeMarcus Granger, Oklahoma (6-2, 327)
7. Kade Weston, Georgia (6-5, 325)
8. Martin Tevaseu, UNLV (6-2, 340)
9. Travis Ivey, Maryland (6-4, 325)
10. Torrell Troup, Central Florida (6-3, 314)

Junior Standouts

1. Phil Taylor, Baylor (6-4, 355)
2. Kenrick Ellis, Hampton (6-5, 340)
3. Anthony Gray, Southern Miss (6-0, 314)
4. Jerrell Powe, Mississippi (6-2, 330)
5. Lawon Scott, Mississippi (6-1, 322)



Rush Linebackers

1. Ricky Sapp, Clemson (6-4, 248)
2. Eric Norwood, South Carolina (6-0, 252)
3. George Selvie, South Florida (6-4, 245)
4. Lindsey Witten, Connecticut (6-4, 258)
5. Sergio Kindle, Texas (6-4, 255)
6. Jerry Hughes, TCU (6-2, 257)
7. Cameron Sheffield, Troy (6-2, 249)
8. Willie Young, N.C. State (6-4, 250)
9. Justin Cole, San Jose State (6-3, 240)
10. Austen Lane, Murray State (6-6, 248)
11. Carl Ihenacho, San Jose State (6-3, 256)
12. Larry Hart, Central Arkansas (6-0, 242)
13. Albert McClellan, Marshall (6-1, 254)
14. Auston English, Oklahoma (6-3, 252)
15. Junior Galette, Stillman (6-2, 255)

Junior Standouts

1. Thaddeus Gibson, Ohio State (6-2, 240)
2. Jason Worilds, Virginia Tech (6-2, 262)
3. K.J. Wright, Mississippi State (6-4, 248)
4. Kevin Basped, Nevada (6-6, 240)
5. Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma (6-3, 260)


Inside Linebackers

1. Brandon Spikes, Florida (6-3, 256)
2. Micah Johnson, Kentucky (6-2, 258)
3. Mike McLaughlin, Boston College (6-0, 245)
4. Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State (6-1, 240)
5. Antonio Coleman, Auburn (6-1, 258)
6. Boris Lee, Troy (6-0, 245)
7. Josh Hull, Penn State (6-3, 240)
8. Jon Dempsey, Louisville (6-0, 241)
9. Clinton Snyder, Stanford (6-4, 240)
10. Jacob Cutrera, LSU (6-3, 236)

Junior Standouts

1. Rolando McClain, Alabama (6-4, 256)
2. Brian Smith, Notre Dame (6-3, 240)
3. Scott Lutrus, Connecticut (6-3, 244)
4. Obi Ezeh, Michigan (6-2, 243)
5. Martez Wilson, Illinois (6-4, 240)

CoMoChief
09-22-2009, 12:34 PM
Sergio Kindle is going to be good. Give him another year to work on his game.

El Jefe
09-22-2009, 12:42 PM
Cameron Heyward is developing into a real beast.

Gadzooks
09-22-2009, 12:55 PM
Interesting.. a lot of fatties on the NT list. Soon everyone will have one.

ChiefGator
09-22-2009, 01:05 PM
Interesting.. a lot of fatties on the NT list. Soon everyone will have one.

Yeah, but one is fatter than the others! Can you spot him?!

Rooster
09-22-2009, 01:11 PM
Could KC have one of each now?

the Talking Can
09-22-2009, 01:24 PM
McClain is a thumper

Gadzooks
09-22-2009, 01:44 PM
Yeah, but one is fatter than the others! Can you spot him?!
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jiveturkey
09-22-2009, 01:47 PM
Awesome idea for a thread. I wonder what the priority will be. Pick up an edge rusher early and an inside LB'er at some point.

Too many holes.

ChiefsCountry
09-22-2009, 01:57 PM
Its a shame we went to the 3-4 or Carlos Dunlap would be the pick no question asked. He is going to be such a stud.

OnTheWarpath58
09-22-2009, 01:59 PM
Its a shame we went to the 3-4 or Carlos Dunlap would be the pick no question asked. He is going to be such a stud.

What's happening, man. Good to see you.

As fucked as this place is, I never thought I'd see you post here again.

You back for good, or just dropping in?

ChiefsCountry
09-22-2009, 02:04 PM
You back for good, or just dropping in?

I'm back for awhile, or until this place gets even more stupid than it was during draft time.

OnTheWarpath58
09-22-2009, 02:15 PM
I'm back for awhile, or until this place gets even more stupid than it was during draft time.

It's worse now, IMO.

Buehler445
09-22-2009, 02:19 PM
It's worse now, IMO.

You know it embarrasses me when you talk about me OTW :D
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Molitoth
09-22-2009, 02:21 PM
I wish we could come up with an inivative new scheme instead of something that every other team is switching to, making it easy to gameplan against.

That wildcat down in Miami is going to strive, imo.

Saccopoo
09-22-2009, 03:52 PM
Its a shame we went to the 3-4 or Carlos Dunlap would be the pick no question asked. He is going to be such a stud.

I understand that a 3-4 ends primary responsibility is to tie up blockers, but if you can do so by throwing them out of the way on your way to murdering a quarterback, what's the difference? Just because Dunlap has insane speed and strength for a guy of his size doesn't mean he'd suck as a 3-4 end. Personally, I think he's going to kick ass regardless of a scheme.

That being said, after spending the last two years first round picks on the D-Line, as well as some thirds and the like (Tyler, Magee), I don't see the Chiefs going that way yet again. If Dorsey and Tyler can continue to play the way they did against the Raiders, and build on that, we should be fine. LB (every position), S, TE and OL is really the concern positions at this point.

And I'm not a big fan of Cody. Seems like just a big fat guy to me. (Gadzooks evolutionary pictorial is pretty spot on.) Ted Washington size without Ted's skill, understanding and weight distribution.

If you want to take a flyer on a big fat guy, then Kade Weston later in the draft would be a nice project. I think a guy like Oghobaase has good potential as a Henderson/Haynesworth type of player if they were going to spend an earlier pick on a DT.

Saccopoo
09-22-2009, 03:55 PM
And I'd take the Pawelek kid from Baylor at ILB over anybody but Spikes (and possibly McCain - but that's iffy at this point). Through two games this season, he's got 28 tackles (21 against UConn), 2 sacks and an interception. Fucking kid is an absolute machine.

TrickyNicky
09-22-2009, 03:58 PM
So Ndlamadingdong Suh isn't considered a fit in the 3-4 or what? I think he fits a 3-4 DE pretty well.

ChiefsCountry
09-22-2009, 04:26 PM
I understand that a 3-4 ends primary responsibility is to tie up blockers, but if you can do so by throwing them out of the way on your way to murdering a quarterback, what's the difference? Just because Dunlap has insane speed and strength for a guy of his size doesn't mean he'd suck as a 3-4 end. Personally, I think he's going to kick ass regardless of a scheme.


He would be double teamed all the time in a 3-4. Its lot eaiser to use his freakish ability coming off the edge than as 3-4 end.

Direckshun
09-22-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't like Cody after watching him play so far.

We need a NT that's more athletic, not just a two-down guy. He won't be worth the Top 5 pick we'll surely have.

Saccopoo
09-22-2009, 05:11 PM
He would be double teamed all the time in a 3-4. Its lot eaiser to use his freakish ability coming off the edge than as 3-4 end.

Have him be your rush backer then. Purportedly, he's got the athleticism to do it.

However, I think that the Chiefs draft Okung or Berry with the first pick.

Pestilence
09-22-2009, 05:14 PM
I don't like Cody after watching him play so far.

We need a NT that's more athletic, not just a two-down guy. He won't be worth the Top 5 pick we'll surely have.

Yeah....let's add more money to this shitty D-line.

T. Jackson - $60 million
Dorsey - $50 million
Cody - $70 million

BigChiefFan
09-22-2009, 05:22 PM
There's some pretty good LBers, who should be available after our first round pick that could help this team.

Sully
09-22-2009, 05:23 PM
What's the word on the kid from Boston College? Is his career pretty much over? Chance of a late-round surprise?

Mecca
09-22-2009, 05:49 PM
Yeah....let's add more money to this shitty D-line.

T. Jackson - $60 million
Dorsey - $50 million
Cody - $70 million

Don't be surprised if it happens, NE used a shit load of high picks on defensive lineman.

There were 3 first rounders a 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder. That was before this past draft by the way.

Although personally I think Vince Oghobaase is the best 3-4 end prospect so I find these rankings a little weird.

orange
09-22-2009, 05:58 PM
You can pencil in Charles Alexander for the Chiefs right now.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-22-2009, 06:06 PM
We really need to think about either an edge rusher or a NT. Kindle has good straight line speed, but he doesn't have much in the way of pass rushing moves. He has some pretty interesting schematic versatility, as he could play the middle or SLB in a 4-3, or any one of the 4 backer positions in a 4-3. Again, he's a Texas player, and there are questions about his lack of technique. He has explosiveness, but Mack Brown is a cockfuck when it comes to getting talented players ready for the NFL.

Still, this is a cool gif:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n254/garypchu/sergio2.gif

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n254/garypchu/sergio1.gif

Mecca
09-22-2009, 06:08 PM
Kindle is a guy with alot of talent who can play a couple of positions...but yea he's a Texas player which immediately gets a flag.

Pestilence
09-22-2009, 06:09 PM
I think I just saw someone die in a GIF.

Mecca
09-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Plus I'm not sure I'd take a Kindle as high as we'd have to take him.

Pestilence
09-22-2009, 06:21 PM
Anyone think Selvie will last until our pick in the 2nd round?

I'd be happy with

Berry/Mays and Selvie

Mecca
09-22-2009, 06:23 PM
Probably the first one, Selvie had a really down year last year so unless he really turns it on again he's losing ground.

Friendo
09-22-2009, 06:41 PM
this kid Quin (DE) at UNC will no doubt come out early--one more season & he's NFL ready.

veist
09-22-2009, 06:55 PM
I don't like Cody after watching him play so far.

We need a NT that's more athletic, not just a two-down guy. He won't be worth the Top 5 pick we'll surely have.

Yup. He's not even that impressive on the two downs he does play.

ChiefsCountry
09-22-2009, 06:57 PM
I like Selvie in the 2nd, with half the league in the 3-4 now its going to put alot of these guys at a preium though.

Sam Hall
09-22-2009, 06:57 PM
It looks like that site has never heard of Ndamukong Suh. I'm personally offended:D