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KCtotheSB
09-22-2009, 09:20 PM
Unfortunately, this question is the talk of the week.

Croyle had a 2 touchdown, 0 interception performance against the Ravens in a 38-24 loss. He led Kansas City to 11 first downs and 188 total yards.

Cassel had a 1 touchdown, 2 interception performance against the Raiders in a 13-10 loss. He led Kansas City to 25 first downs and 409 total yards.

A....*ahem*......"quarterback controversy". Just what we needed, right? So, let's go ahead and amuse ourselves.....Cassel or Croyle? Here. We. Go.......

Mr. Flopnuts
09-22-2009, 09:21 PM
Why, the sixty million dollar man, of course.

"Bob" Dobbs
09-22-2009, 09:21 PM
Cassel. No question.

Deberg_1990
09-22-2009, 09:26 PM
MarK Sanchez

Reaper16
09-22-2009, 09:28 PM
It should be Matt Cassel.

O.city
09-22-2009, 09:28 PM
This is a joke! Croyle is a good BACKUP. Cassel looked really good minus a few mistakes. He got the ball down the field and didn't go to the checkdown as the first read. Give the guy a chance.

Chiefs=Good
09-22-2009, 09:30 PM
MarK Sanchez

This... lol

OnTheWarpath58
09-22-2009, 09:31 PM
Whoever Todd Haley feels gives the team the best chance to win.

milkman
09-22-2009, 09:32 PM
Tyler Thigpen FTW! Motherfuckers!

Mr. Flopnuts
09-22-2009, 09:33 PM
Tyler Thigpen FTW! Motherfuckers!

LMAO No shit. Where's the "Yes he can" crowd?

OnTheWarpath58
09-22-2009, 09:33 PM
Tyler Thigpen FTW! Motherfuckers!

LMAO

Where are all the folks who would have voted for him 9 months ago?

Chiefs=Good
09-22-2009, 09:34 PM
THE GUT!11!!

Chiefs=Good
09-22-2009, 09:34 PM
LMAO

Where are all the folks who would have voted for him 9 months ago?

Hootie? ROFL

Mr. Laz
09-22-2009, 09:34 PM
The question about that ended as soon as they gave Cassel the big contract.


worthless question

Reaper16
09-22-2009, 09:35 PM
Hootie? ROFL
Nah, 9 moths ago Hootie would still be voting for Damon Huard.

Mecca
09-22-2009, 09:36 PM
MarK Sanchez

Please don't remind me.

Chiefs=Good
09-22-2009, 09:38 PM
Nah, 9 moths ago Hootie would still be voting for Damon Huard.

True.. Thats one crazy guy... LMAO

Chiefs=Good
09-22-2009, 09:40 PM
We have a vote for Brodie.. Step up man, who voted for him?

BWillie
09-22-2009, 09:41 PM
Until Cassel loses like 13 straight games as a starter. Imma pick Cassel

Gadzooks
09-22-2009, 09:41 PM
Tyler Thigpen FTW! Mother****ers!

This.

Agent V
09-22-2009, 09:48 PM
LMAO

Where are all the folks who would have voted for him 9 months ago?

Right here. And I do apologize.

TrickyNicky
09-22-2009, 09:48 PM
Unless Brodie becomes Weapon X, Cassel should start

chiefs1111
09-22-2009, 09:55 PM
Trent Green

boogblaster
09-22-2009, 10:05 PM
Cassel .. Croyle is too brittle ....

ElGringo
09-22-2009, 10:10 PM
Going with Gaz (if we have to put a poll up about this right now, Gaz could be the starter)

FAX
09-22-2009, 10:10 PM
I say we trade for Vince Young.

FAX

DeezNutz
09-22-2009, 10:11 PM
Trent Green

What is...Cassel's nickname?

StcChief
09-22-2009, 10:12 PM
Gaz.fast, good and cheap pick any two. Fast doesn't count.

FAX
09-22-2009, 10:19 PM
I thought Croyle did a solid job against the dirty birds and I remain convinced he has the tools to be a good, if not great, NFL quarterback. I worry about his ability to keep getting up, though. Even though his commitment to rehab and returning to the field has been impressive as hell, there's only so many spinectomies a guy can take and our o-line hands them out like Krishna flowers.

The front office made their decision, though, and I'm going with it. Cassel, it is.

Unless, of course, the stupid bastard continues to give away games and footballs to the enemy. If that happens, I think we should trade for Vince Young, adjust the offense, and quarterback sneak our way to a division championship.

FAX

milkman
09-22-2009, 10:24 PM
What is...Cassel's nickname?

UnderStudy

smittysbar
09-22-2009, 10:45 PM
Whoever the fuck Haley wants

Guru
09-22-2009, 10:46 PM
I can't believe this is even being considered.

DeezNutz
09-22-2009, 10:50 PM
UnderStudy

I'm going to vomit.

Bane
09-22-2009, 11:08 PM
I voted Croyle just to catch some shit cause I'm bored at work.It should be Cassel though,the O looked better behind him,even though I'm still not sold on him.This year is gonna be shit no matter who we start so let's do this back and forth shit next april!!!!
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milkman
09-22-2009, 11:10 PM
I'm going to vomit.

Never fear, UnderStudy is here.

Silock
09-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Should be Cassel. I must say that while Cassel has more talent, Croyle managed the game better. Cassel's highs were higher, but his lows were lower.

At this point, I don't think you can really go wrong with either of them, but Cassel should be in there for the future.

The_Doctor10
09-22-2009, 11:35 PM
LMAO

Where are all the folks who would have voted for him 9 months ago?

To be fair, I would've voted for him 4 months ago assuming he used his off-season to work on his footwork from under centre and practiced his deep ball. You cannot deny that he turned the Chiefs' offense into something better than 'atrocious' last season.

Unfortunately, he shit the bed in the pre-season, and is deservingly the least-appreciated man on the QB depth chart.

Dicky McElephant
09-22-2009, 11:37 PM
This poll is flawed! Where is the option for Matt Gutierrez???!?!?!

The_Doctor10
09-22-2009, 11:40 PM
This poll is flawed! Where is the option for Matt Gutierrez???!?!?!

Nor is there a 'Bring back Casey Printers' option.

I regret voting in this travesty of democracy.

Sure-Oz
09-22-2009, 11:40 PM
Who needs casey winters when you got ted white

The_Doctor10
09-22-2009, 11:44 PM
Who needs casey winters when you got ted white

Ted White was perhaps the worst, longest-tenured QBs in CFL history; he was doing QB sneaks on 3rd an 1 for Montreal till he was well past 42 and nobody had a clue until he retired and said 'at 45, I've had enough'. Don't know that I ever actually saw him complete a pass...

cdcox
09-22-2009, 11:45 PM
MarK Sanchez

The only real QB controversy in KC.

Count Alex's Losses
09-23-2009, 01:00 AM
Like Parker expounded on after Week 1, Croyle has been ruined. He doesn't look to throw down the field often enough. Even when he does, he doesn't want to take a chance with the ball.

That interception Cassel threw last week on the pass intended for Savage? I want him deciding to chuck that rock every single time. It's risky, because if it's overthrown, it's an interception. But it's also a chance for a big play.

And if we stop making a 5-8 receiver run downfield routes, the pick doesn't happen (that's really my only criticism of Haley from the last game. I don't know why the fuck you have a midget run a seam route. What the fuck? I guess it might take a defender by surprise.)

soundmind
09-23-2009, 01:04 AM
You can't be serious.....it's week 3.

soundmind
09-23-2009, 01:06 AM
Like Parker expounded on after Week 1, Croyle has been ruined. He doesn't look to throw down the field often enough. Even when he does, he doesn't want to take a chance with the ball.

That interception Cassel threw last week on the pass intended for Savage? I want him deciding to chuck that rock every single time. It's risky, because if it's overthrown, it's an interception. But it's also a chance for a big play.

And if we stop making a 5-8 receiver run downfield routes, the pick doesn't happen (that's really my only criticism of Haley from the last game. I don't know why the **** you have a midget run a seam route. What the ****? I guess it might take a defender by surprise.)

I gotta agree with that. I don't know what he was doing in the middle of the field, other than his speed might have commanded some attention...but why in the hell was he thrown to...hell, either time?

There were a handful of missteps easily recalled from that game, but I'm willing to move on and look forward - long season left.

Blick
09-23-2009, 06:17 AM
Bring back Warren Moon.

Simply Red
09-23-2009, 06:40 AM
what are we all going to talk about if we ever do get talent in here?

InChiefsHell
09-23-2009, 06:43 AM
what are we all going to talk about if we ever do get talent in here?

Nothing, because the world will certainly have come to an end...:D

InChiefsHell
09-23-2009, 06:45 AM
You have to go with Cassel. Brodie looks ok, but is brittle. And we've seen what Brodie can't do...win games. Cassel (albeit for a much better team) has won games in the NFL. Until the season is over or he's been killed by an opposing defense, Cassel is the man.

...but I do think it's good to have Brodie around, hot wife not withstanding...

old_geezer
09-23-2009, 06:45 AM
The only "controversy" is in newspaper reporter's heads. If Cassel is healthy enough to play, he will play. For the record, I don't want a QB who is afraid to take chances and plays it safe all the time (Croyle).

rad
09-23-2009, 06:59 AM
Bring back Casey Clausen

Red Beans
09-23-2009, 07:08 AM
I'm not sure this poll even dignifies an answer...

CCU2000
09-23-2009, 07:33 AM
Thigpen bitches!

Chiefnj2
09-23-2009, 08:03 AM
This is the dumbest thing.

What did people expect from Cassel? He had about 19 pass attempts all of preseason before getting hurt. Since he has been hurt the team has (a) fired the OC, (b) changed the gameplan and terminology, (c) rotated the right side of the OL, (d) continually rotated WRs and brought in Wade, (e) continually rotates HBs.

Of course he's going to look rusty and unsure. There has been absolutely no continuity.

I understand Haley wants everyone to earn a spot and the best players to practice are going to get playing time, but at some point you've got to settle the roster down a bit and let the players get accustomed to each other. Haley also needs to use his play makers. They barely went to Bowe in the first half of the Raiders game.

CoMoChief
09-23-2009, 08:09 AM
LMAO No shit. Where's the "Yes he can" crowd?

It's right here. PUT IN THIGPEN AND LET THE ****ER USE HIS LEGS

Count Alex's Losses
09-23-2009, 08:10 AM
It's right here. PUT IN THIGPEN AND LET THE ****ER USE HIS LEGS

Thigpen is moonlighting as a cabaret dancer?

CoMoChief
09-23-2009, 08:11 AM
What's Frank Reich doing these days. Sitting on a couch? Bring his ass in!!!!!

htismaqe
09-23-2009, 09:22 AM
Where is TEX? Paging Mr. TEX! Paging Mr. TEX!

Seriously, has everybody LOST THEIR MINDS?

Do some people need to take a few months off like I did?

Forget Cassel for a minute.

BRODIE CROYLE HAS NEVER WON AN NFL GAME. Furthermore, he's been seriously injured almost a DOZEN times since his high school days.

Tiger's Fan
09-23-2009, 09:47 AM
Where is TEX? Paging Mr. TEX! Paging Mr. TEX!

Seriously, has everybody LOST THEIR MINDS?

Do some people need to take a few months off like I did?

Forget Cassel for a minute.

BRODIE CROYLE HAS NEVER WON AN NFL GAME. Furthermore, he's been seriously injured almost a DOZEN times since his high school days.

Some people already have their minds made up about Cassel. Until he wins a SB, he'll always be a POS. Realistic expectations be damned. It goes double for the GM, because he didn't draft who "we" wanted.

I'm prepared to hear the cry for Croyle from these people soon. Not because they like Croyle, but because they hate Cassel.

That said, this was all pretty predictable.

OnTheWarpath58
09-23-2009, 09:50 AM
Some people already have their minds made up about Cassel. Until he wins a SB, he'll always be a POS. Realistic expectations be damned. It goes double for the GM, because he didn't draft who "we" wanted.

I'm prepared to hear the cry for Croyle from these people soon. Not because they like Croyle, but because they hate Cassel.

That said, this was all pretty predictable.

Just out of curiosity, who here hates Cassel?

I know there are people that don't believe he'll become a franchise QB, but who here hates him?

Dicky McElephant
09-23-2009, 10:04 AM
Just out of curiosity, who here hates Cassel?

I know there are people that don't believe he'll become a franchise QB, but who here hates him?

Damn Drafturbators!!! /true fans

Tiger's Fan
09-23-2009, 10:05 AM
Just out of curiosity, who here hates Cassel?

I know there are people that don't believe he'll become a franchise QB, but who here hates him?

Hate the player, hate the trade, same diff.

Cassel was discounted as bad as soon as he got here.

Dicky McElephant
09-23-2009, 10:08 AM
Hate the player, hate the trade, same diff.

Cassel was discounted as bad as soon as he got here.

HUGE difference there.

I hated the trade....but I don't hate Matt Cassel. I hated the trade at the time because it fucked over our draft worth before we even had a shot to try and trade down.

I don't hate Matt Cassel. I'd love to see him succeed as a Chief and take us to many Superbowls. I was cheering when he ran for the 1st down...got up and threw up the 1st down sign. Just because I hated the trade....doesn't mean I hate the player.

OnTheWarpath58
09-23-2009, 10:11 AM
HUGE difference there.

I hated the trade....but I don't hate Matt Cassel. I hated the trade at the time because it fucked over our draft worth before we even had a shot to try and trade down.

I don't hate Matt Cassel. I'd love to see him succeed as a Chief and take us to many Superbowls. I was cheering when he ran for the 1st down...got up and threw up the 1st down sign. Just because I hated the trade....doesn't mean I hate the player.

This.

If you want "hate", let me tell you about how we gave him $60M when we already owned his rights and could have used the year to evaluate himbeing worth that kind of investment.

Like Pestilence said, I'm rooting for the guy, but at the same time, I don't think he'll end up being a true franchise QB.

Brock
09-23-2009, 10:12 AM
Hate the player, hate the trade, same diff.

Uh, logical disconnect.

wild1
09-23-2009, 10:16 AM
I thought there would be a few more than 9 out of 128 voting for Croyle.

Cassel is the better player, despite what happened last week. He made some mistakes, no question about it. But we can't hand the reigns off to Croyle. Do you gentlemen not remember him getting hurt all the time?

Bane
09-23-2009, 11:12 AM
I don't hate Cassel I just would have rather used the draft to get our QB of the future.I'm fine with waiting a year or so like we did with Trent,and then seeing where he is and where we are as a team.
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Bane
09-23-2009, 11:15 AM
Having said that,I'm still going to rant and rave when he,or Brodie,or any of them play like shit.
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38yrsfan
09-23-2009, 11:19 AM
Cassel.

He gets the pay, he has to play. Now if he would just perform at a level that is equal to the paycheck ...

Iowanian
09-23-2009, 11:38 AM
Croyle has had too many injuries. I think he's improving and I think he's developing into a great backup.

Let Cassel have the ball and see if he can make salad out of the chickenshit around him.

MahiMike
09-23-2009, 11:53 AM
Thank goodness the Planet has some sense.