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Tribal Warfare
09-24-2009, 03:07 PM
The NFP Super 30 (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/The-NFP-Super-30.html)

by Wes Bunting
September 23, 02009


In the first installment of the National Football Postís Super 30, we break down and rank the nationís top junior and senior prospects for next yearís NFL Draft.

1. QB Jake Locker, Washington (6-3, 226)
The nationís top quarterback prospect.

2. S Eric Berry, Tennessee (5-11, 203)
One of the most instinctive safeties to come along in years. Looks like an instant impact player in the NFL.

3. DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma (6-4, 298)
A disruptive force inside who plays with a great motor and consistently finds the football.

4. OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa (6-6, 312)
Might be coach Kirk Ferentzís best offensive lineman prospect yet.

5. DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6-4, 302)
His combination of length, body control and burst make him a big-time threat rushing the passer.

6. ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama (6-4, 256)
Possesses an impressive athletic skill set for his size and has the ability to play in either a 3-4 or 4-3 scheme.

7. WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (6-2, 220)
A powerful route runner who displays the short-area quickness to separate out of his breaks and can create after the catch.



8. RB Jahvid Best, California (5-10, 195)
Added some much-needed girth to his lower half last offseason but is still a big play waiting to happen every time he touches the ball.

9. DE Carlos Dunlap, Florida (6-6, 290)
Exhibits the power, length and quickness to develop into a disruptive three-down lineman at the next level.

10. DT Terrence Cody, Alabama (6-5, 365)
An immovable object inside who has the ability to anchor the interior of any defensive line.

11. DE/OLB Ricky Sapp, Clemson (6-4, 248)
An explosive edge rusher who looks like an ideal 3-4 OLB at the next level.

12. S Taylor Mays, Southern Cal (6-3, 235)
Possesses a rare combination of size and speed for the position, but at times will struggle with his instincts. In the Sean Taylor mold.

13. OT Anthony Davis, Rutgers (6-6, 325)
Showcases the size, power and fluidity to develop into a Pro Bowl-caliber left tackle.



14. QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (6-3, 223)
Is quickly becoming one of the nationís top pocket passers in a pro-style offense.

15. OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland (6-7, 310)
Another physically gifted tackle who possesses the feet and body control to anchor the left side of an NFL offensive line for the next decade.

16. QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (6-4, 223)
Heís as accurate as any quarterback in the nation, but questions remain about his ability to make decisions in the face of pressure.

17. DE Cameron Heyward, Ohio State (6-6, 287)
A physically imposing defensive end who has the makings of an impact three-down lineman at the next level.

18. DT Allen Bailey, Miami (6-4, 288)
His physical skill set is as good as it gets. Heís still a little raw, but heís getting better with every game.

19. OT Jarriel King, South Carolina (6-5, 312)
Showcases the athleticism and footwork to reach the edge and mirror the best pass rushers the SEC has to offer. His stock should soar this season.



20. QB Jevan Snead, Mississippi (6-3, 215)
A strong-armed quarterback who can make all the throws, but he needs to become a more consistent decision-maker.

21. DT Arthur Jones, Syracuse (6-3, 295)
A physical interior presence who does a great job shedding blocks on contact and making plays away from his frame.

22. OLB Rennie Curran, Georgia (5-11, 225)
Showcases great range and a nose for the ball, but because of his size, he might be limited to more of a Cover 2 scheme.

23. RB C.J. Spiller, Clemson (5-11, 195)
An X-factor on offense who has the ability to create in both the run and pass game.

24. CB Joe Haden, Florida (5-11, 190)
His combination of speed, fluidity and physicality makes him really tough to separate from in man coverage.

25. RB Jonathan Dwyer, Georgia Tech (5-11, 235)
Has yet to get on track this year, but heís a powerful inside runner with impressive short-area quickness for his size.

26. DE Derrick Morgan, Georgia Tech (6-4, 272)
Possesses the tools to get after the quarterback in a variety of ways.


27. WR Arrelious Benn, Illinois (6-2, 220)
A tough, physical wideout in the same mold as Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin.

28. OT Russell Okung, Oklahoma State (6-5, 302)
Showcases good fluidity and body control in pass protection but needs to continue to add more base strength.

29. WR Dezmon Briscoe, Kansas (6-3, 200)
A big, coordinated route runner who plays a lot faster than he times. Looks like a legit No. 1 wideout at the next level.

30. OT Nate Solder, Colorado (6-9, 305)
Needs to continue getting stronger, but his size/speed numbers are unmatched by any other offensive tackle prospect in the country.

Just missed the cutÖ

OLB Eric Norwood, South Carolina (6-0, 252)
DE Greg Hardy, Mississippi (6-4, 265)
QB Colt McCoy, Texas (6-2, 212)
QB Tim Tebow, Florida (6-3, 245)
WR Brandon LaFell, LSU (6-3, 206)
ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida (6-3, 256)
OLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri (6-1, 245)
OLB Bruce Carter, North Carolina (6-3, 225)
WR Mike Williams, Syracuse (6-2, 212)
FS Morgan Burnett, Georgia Tech (6-1, 210)
TE Weslye Saunders, South Carolina (6-5, 280)

Buehler445
09-24-2009, 03:24 PM
Hmmm. That's a pretty generous description of Briscoe.

I don't see him as first round talent, but maybe I'm wrong. He is a goddamn good college wideout though.
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sedated
09-24-2009, 03:28 PM
Hmmm. That's a pretty generous description of Briscoe.

I don't see him as first round talent, but maybe I'm wrong. He is a goddamn good college wideout though.
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if Briscoe isn't first round, he should be close.

Raised On Riots
09-24-2009, 04:22 PM
Wow. Jake Locker topped out over the three stooges? Flop should be happy.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 04:40 PM
I was high on Locker going into last season and he really struggled.

And Bulaga is going to have to PLAY at some point this season if he wants to get drafted high.

kstater
09-24-2009, 04:43 PM
Are either of the top 2 DT's suitable for the 3-4?

Tribal Warfare
09-24-2009, 04:46 PM
Are either of the top 2 DT's suitable for the 3-4?

at DE

kstater
09-24-2009, 04:47 PM
at DE

Damn, not the answer I was hoping for.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 04:48 PM
It might be my happiest day as a Chiefs fan if they draft Suh.

Pestilence
09-24-2009, 04:51 PM
It looks to me like that extra 2nd round pick is going to work out great for us. This draft is going to be loaded with talent.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 04:54 PM
I hope they go after offensive line and wide receiver in free agency. This looks like a good defensive draft, and I'd like the first two picks to be defense.

kstater
09-24-2009, 05:00 PM
I hope they go after offensive line and wide receiver in free agency. This looks like a good defensive draft, and I'd like the first two picks to be defense.

I'd pay good money that one of the 2 2nd rounders are used on a receiver.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 05:02 PM
I'd like some defensive combo with the first two picks and a running back with the other second-round pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:07 PM
It might be my happiest day as a Chiefs fan if they draft Suh.

:spock:

I know you may love the Huskers, but do you really want to see KC spend yet another top 5 pick on a 3-4 DE, given that it's just a complimentary position in the defense?

Pestilence
09-24-2009, 05:07 PM
I said it before in another thread....but we should be throwing money at Logan Mankins in the offseason. That would at least help shore up one position in our line. Secondly we need to go after a pass rusher. Merriman or Ware (if he doesn't sign with Dallas).

Then in 2 out of our first 3 picks....we need defense. Anywhere except the d-line.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:09 PM
Briscoe will drop due to concerns over the route tree, just like Maclin did. Unfortunately for him, he's not nearly as explosive, but he's got a better frame.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 05:10 PM
:spock:

I know you may love the Huskers, but do you really want to see KC spend yet another top 5 pick on a 3-4 DE, given that it's just a complimentary position in the defense?

I've heard stuff about Suh as a nose tackle and I'm not sold on our other DE opposite Jackson.

Pestilence
09-24-2009, 05:11 PM
I've heard stuff about Suh as a nose tackle and I'm not sold on our other DE opposite Jackson.

Dorsey or Magee? Fuck man....Dorsey has actually been playing pretty well considering he's not a perfect fit for that position. Let's NOT draft another d-lineman in the 1st round....please.

Infidel Goat
09-24-2009, 05:13 PM
I like Cody--the big fattie!

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:14 PM
I said it before in another thread....but we should be throwing money at Logan Mankins in the offseason. That would at least help shore up one position in our line. Secondly we need to go after a pass rusher. Merriman or Ware (if he doesn't sign with Dallas).

Then in 2 out of our first 3 picks....we need defense. Anywhere except the d-line.

We need the following:

2 Rush backers
1 Free Safety
1 Ted Backer
1 Nose Tackle

That assumes that Morgan works out. We shouldn't be drafting any corners or 3-4 ends, period.

On O we need

1 Burner (Harper to Bowe's Irvin)
3 OL (RT,G,C)
1 RB

That's assuming that Cassel works out, and that we can hold off on Waters for another year.

The fact of the matter is that by drafting counter to value last year, we fucked ourselves hard this year for improving the line. We've just got to hope that the board falls in line with our needs.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:15 PM
I've heard stuff about Suh as a nose tackle and I'm not sold on our other DE opposite Jackson.

That's because you don't know the difference between the DT's job in a 3-4 and 4-3. Suh is not a 0 Technique.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:17 PM
I'd like some defensive combo with the first two picks and a running back with the other second-round pick.

Nah, I'd rather go RB late and hope to get a diamond in the rough.

I'd go defense in the 1st just based on the talent in this draft. In the 2nd, I'd look LB, OL, or WR.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 05:18 PM
That's because you don't know the difference between the DT's job in a 3-4 and 4-3. Suh is not a 0 Technique.

He would have no trouble drawing double coverage as a nose tackle.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:19 PM
That's because you don't know the difference between the DT's job in a 3-4 and 4-3. Suh is not a 0 Technique.

No, he's not a 0 technique. But he's also never been asked to do it.

There's alot of national guys that seem to think he can add bulk (he looks like he could to me) and play NT in the NFL.

Not saying I like the idea, just saying it's not something that came out of left field. I've heard people talking about it since the summer.

Ari Chi3fs
09-24-2009, 05:19 PM
Chiefs will be drafting 7th overall, methinks.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:20 PM
He would have no trouble drawing double coverage as a nose tackle.

That's not the sole point of a 0 tech.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:20 PM
He would have no trouble drawing double coverage as a nose tackle.

The question isn't whether or not he could draw doubles, it's whether or not he could DEAL with them.

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 05:20 PM
In no particular order, I think we're down to Berry, Mays, Suh, McCoy, Kindle and maybe Cody.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 05:22 PM
No, he's not a 0 technique. But he's also never been asked to do it.

There's alot of national guys that seem to think he can add bulk (he looks like he could to me) and play NT in the NFL.

Not saying I like the idea, just saying it's not something that came out of left field. I've heard people talking about it since the summer.

It runs counter to his talents. He could do it, but it wouldn't be the best allocation of his abilities. With his natural skills as a pass rusher, he should work in a one-gap system where he can get after the QB.

Pestilence
09-24-2009, 05:24 PM
I'll take any three of these positions in our first 3 picks.

S
WR
OT
OLB

Sam Hall
09-24-2009, 05:26 PM
I really think the first pick will be Berry or Mays. Suh is mostly wishful thinking.

Pestilence
09-24-2009, 05:28 PM
If we could somehow pick up Eric Berry and Brandon Spikes with our first 2 picks....I'd JIMP.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:34 PM
It runs counter to his talents. He could do it, but it wouldn't be the best allocation of his abilities. With his natural skills as a pass rusher, he should work in a one-gap system where he can get after the QB.

Like Dorsey? ROFL

:banghead:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:35 PM
If we could somehow pick up Eric Berry and Brandon Spikes with our first 2 picks....I'd JIMP.

Um, yeah...TMI

:D

Mecca
09-24-2009, 05:37 PM
This list is all weird..Jake Locker #1 cmon now...

Raised On Riots
09-24-2009, 05:41 PM
This list is all weird..Jake Locker #1 cmon now...

I find it possibly flawed, yet ironic to the degree it pleases me.:D

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:43 PM
This list is all weird..Jake Locker #1 cmon now...

It's quite possible he'll be the best TRUE NFL prospect at QB after this season. And since he's a QB, his stock goes up automatically.

Think about who his competition is for a minute...

Priest31kc
09-24-2009, 05:44 PM
If we could somehow pick up Eric Berry and Brandon Spikes with our first 2 picks....I'd JIMP.

Yeah that'd be great, but has anyone seen our offensive line lately?? Pretty sure our defense is ahead of our offense, why not maybe improve the offense with some OL and a WR??

AustinChief
09-24-2009, 05:46 PM
We need the following:

2 Rush backers
1 Free Safety
1 Ted Backer
1 Nose Tackle

On O we need

1 Burner (Harper to Bowe's Irvin)
3 OL (RT,G,C)
1 RB


I agree minus the RB...

I see this as a possible "decent" draft for us...

Round 1 = Berry or Mays (depending on where we draft)
Round 2a = Boo Robinson or Sergio Kindle or Golden Tate
Round 2b = Jay Ross(if he continues to improve otherwise another NT that is as yet unknown here) or Brandon Graham or Eric Norwood

Other than WR, I would focus on defense unless we can find a stud RT late in the 2nd round.

Saccopoo
09-24-2009, 05:47 PM
1. Eric Berry, S; Tenn
2. George Selvie, OLB/DE; USF
2. Joe Pawelek, ILB; Baylor
3. Zane Beadles, OT; Utah
4. Dennis Pitta, TE; BYU
5. Odrick Turner, WR; Pitt
6. Kade Weston, DT; Georgia

Raised On Riots
09-24-2009, 05:49 PM
And so the preparatory ritual for the Great Disappointment Of 2010 begins...

Mecca
09-24-2009, 05:50 PM
Beadles is a guard at the next level you should probably get use to it.

htismaqe
09-24-2009, 05:54 PM
Yeah that'd be great, but has anyone seen our offensive line lately?? Pretty sure our defense is ahead of our offense, why not maybe improve the offense with some OL and a WR??

We can get offensive linemen elsewhere for a lot better value.

Saccopoo
09-24-2009, 05:56 PM
Beadles is a guard at the next level you should probably get use to it.

RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE RIGHT TACKLE

the Talking Can
09-24-2009, 05:56 PM
interesting to see curran regarded that high....i just assumed he looked so good because the rest of the georgia defense looks so bad...

the Talking Can
09-24-2009, 05:59 PM
several of these players are on espn right now

Mecca
09-24-2009, 06:13 PM
Curran is a nice player and everything but his size will downgrade him, he's in reality about 5'10.

Raised On Riots
09-24-2009, 06:15 PM
Why are DB's getting so goddamned short?

the Talking Can
09-24-2009, 06:17 PM
Curran is a nice player and everything but his size will downgrade him, he's in reality about 5'10.

he reminds me of a player at KSU about 6-7 years ago under Snyder...a LB with the body of a safety, made an insane amount of tackles, totally dominate at the college level....i'm sure a ksu fan remembers his name, starts with a B i think..


anyways, was either drafted in the 6th or not at all and never played as far as i know

Mecca
09-24-2009, 06:18 PM
Josh Buhl?

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-24-2009, 06:21 PM
Why are DB's getting so goddamned short?

The Spread demands faster guys with quicker hips in coverage. The neutering of the press in the NFL makes smaller guys better corners, because they can run with the WRs, and their small size isn't really an issue.

Molitoth
09-24-2009, 06:21 PM
5. DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska (6-4, 302)
His combination of length, body control and burst make him a big-time threat rushing the passer.

:D

the Talking Can
09-24-2009, 06:25 PM
Josh Buhl?

sounds right

Raised On Riots
09-24-2009, 06:30 PM
The Spread demands faster guys with quicker hips in coverage. The neutering of the press in the NFL makes smaller guys better corners, because they can run with the WRs, and their small size isn't really an issue.

Thank you sir!

the Talking Can
09-24-2009, 06:30 PM
Georgia has a 5'10 CB with a 41inch vertical

returned a 100 yard kick off against South Car.

but is starting as a sophmore and getting torched in coverage...high ceiling though for midget, amazing kick returner...

Brandon Boykin


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