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Deberg_1990
09-28-2009, 02:32 PM
heh

Capitalism a Love Story.


Oh the Irony.....This guy profits and gets rich from the very thing he rails against in this movie. WTF??

Why doesnt he let everyone in for free to see his movie???

2bikemike
09-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Michael Moore is a huge piece of shit. I thought the same thing here he is railing against capitalism and if it weren't for capitalism there would be no Michael Moore. His douche baggery has hit an all time high.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 02:48 PM
Not having seen the movie, I can't make his argument for him.

I would imagine though, that this is a movie about the financial collapse and the bailouts that followed.

So he's not complaining about capitalism in and of itself, which I understand people would believe given his purposefully inflammatory title, but instead about those who abuse the system and hide behind the curtain of legitimate capitalism and later rail against government regulation.

But that's just a guess. I haven't the slightest actual clue what his argument would be.

mlyonsd
09-28-2009, 02:50 PM
Not having seen the movie, I can't make his argument for him.

I would imagine though, that this is a movie about the financial collapse and the bailouts that followed.

So he's not complaining about capitalism in and of itself, which I understand people would believe given his purposefully inflammatory title, but instead about those who abuse the system and hide behind the curtain of legitimate capitalism and later rail against government regulation.

But that's just a guess. I haven't the slightest actual clue what his argument would be.

I saw him on Leno.....yea, pretty much he rails on all capitalism and the audacity of anyone to think they should make more money than someone else.

Socialism at it's finest.

blaise
09-28-2009, 02:50 PM
I won't see it. He's a douche. Seeing it would be giving him money.

2bikemike
09-28-2009, 02:53 PM
I won't see it. He's a douche. Seeing it would be giving him money.

I haven't seen any of his movies and never will.

Deberg_1990
09-28-2009, 02:54 PM
I saw him on Leno.....yea, pretty much he rails on all capitalism and the audacity of anyone to think they should make more money than someone else.

Socialism at it's finest.



heh. I heard on the radio this morning he lives in one of the most expensive sections of NY City. ROFL

Radar Chief
09-28-2009, 03:01 PM
I haven't seen any of his movies and never will.

I’ve seen a couple of them, “Bowling for Columbine”, “Fahrenheit 9/11” and “Canadian Bacon” just to see what the fuss was about.
A far more interesting “documentary” than anything he’s done is one called “Manufacturing Dissent”. Any guesses as to the subject matter of that one? ;)

petegz28
09-28-2009, 03:11 PM
I haven't seen any of his movies and never will.

Canadian Bacon was funny. Ironically he takes a shot at Candian health care during that movie.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 04:29 PM
I saw him on Leno.....yea, pretty much he rails on all capitalism and the audacity of anyone to think they should make more money than someone else.

Fair enough. I have not yet seen the interview, maybe I'll YouTube it.

KCWolfman
09-28-2009, 04:37 PM
Do people still watch his stuff? I would have thought he was shoved off the beach abd back safely into deep waters by now.
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Chocolate Hog
09-28-2009, 04:39 PM
Not having seen the movie, I can't make his argument for him.

I would imagine though, that this is a movie about the financial collapse and the bailouts that followed.

So he's not complaining about capitalism in and of itself, which I understand people would believe given his purposefully inflammatory title, but instead about those who abuse the system and hide behind the curtain of legitimate capitalism and later rail against government regulation.

But that's just a guess. I haven't the slightest actual clue what his argument would be.

Yea the movie should be called corporatism. Which Obama has mastered.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 04:40 PM
Do people still watch his stuff? I would have thought he was shoved off the beach abd back safely into deep waters by now.

Conservatives, of all people, should know that demogogues who spew ridiculous, partisan rhetoric can make a killing.

Chocolate Hog
09-28-2009, 04:43 PM
Conservatives, of all people, should know that demogogues who spew ridiculous, partisan rhetoric can make a killing.

They don't bitch about capitalism the libtards and phony anarchist do.

I saw some protesters at the G-20 said they were anti-government anti-capitalism who wanted the wealth redistrubited. Goodluck with that.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 04:47 PM
They don't bitch about capitalism the libtards and phony anarchist do.

Nah, conservative demogogues bitch about equally heinous things.

That's how it works. And they make killings doing it. Turn on your AM radio dial.

Chocolate Hog
09-28-2009, 04:48 PM
Nah, conservative demogogues bitch about equally heinous things.

That's how it works. And they make killings doing it. Turn on your AM radio dial.

I refuse to listen to that garbage and when I do its only for entertainment. Those people aren't the solution to the nations problems. Serious dialouge like we are having will solve more.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
I refuse to listen to that garbage and when I do its only for entertainment. Those people aren't the solution to the nations problems. Serious dialouge like we are having will solve more.

Well on that point, you have an ally in me, that's for damn sure.

KCWolfman
09-28-2009, 04:49 PM
Conservatives, of all people, should know that demogogues who spew ridiculous, partisan rhetoric can make a killing.

Wow, Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot.

You actually found a way to cry about conservatives on a Michael Moore bash.
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Direckshun
09-28-2009, 04:52 PM
Wow, Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot.

You actually found a way to cry about conservatives on a Michael Moore bash.

I've been told that I'm doing a ton of crying today. The tears must be in a neverending tributary from my sockets. Imagine how cumbersome it must be for me to roam the halls at work with a bucket in tow.

Listen, conservatives want to bitch about Moore, go for it. I think he's pretty much the liberal version of Mark Levin, who conservatives here embrace with both arms.

I'm saying both folks are demogogues, and that somehow takes me out of the mainstream.

mlyonsd
09-28-2009, 04:53 PM
Fair enough. I have not yet seen the interview, maybe I'll YouTube it.

I believe his term that night was capitalism was "legalized greed".

That's pretty high level stuff.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 05:06 PM
Okay. I've seen the interview. Here's the first part.

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He's somewhere between us.

You folks are saying he's shitting on capitalism. I made the assumption that he was just bitching about the banks.

He's closer to my argument, where he's arguing about the top 1% gouging the rest of us, sometimes to our extreme detriment, to earn more money they don't need.

Which is a legitimate argument -- but then he uses that to lay down the law on capitalism way too broadly for me to be comfortable with. "Legalized greed" was where I draw the line.

Once again, people can't criticize Moore without making him sound like an enemy of the state.

But all he is, is the liberal version of Mark Levin. He's making outlandish claims, making a killing doing it, and playing those who hate him for his own personal gain. It's the same thing.

KCWolfman
09-28-2009, 05:18 PM
I've been told that I'm doing a ton of crying today. The tears must be in a neverending tributary from my sockets. Imagine how cumbersome it must be for me to roam the halls at work with a bucket in tow.

Listen, conservatives want to bitch about Moore, go for it. I think he's pretty much the liberal version of Mark Levin, who conservatives here embrace with both arms.

I'm saying both folks are demogogues, and that somehow takes me out of the mainstream.

I never stated you were crying or whining. I would never label you a pariah when you seem to do a fine job on your own.

I stated you are hypocritical complaining about rhetoric when I have seen a great deal from you with this Admins silly errors.
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WilliamTheIrish
09-28-2009, 05:38 PM
This is the movie I want to see. For once, he's fucking with the AIG, Fed Reserve and CBO who were handed money, or were charged with overseeing the money in the bailout scam and can't account for it.

This movie actually looks entertaining.

Direckshun
09-28-2009, 06:00 PM
I never stated you were crying or whining.

You actually found a way to cry about conservatives on a Michael Moore bash.

Go Chiefs.

googlegoogle
09-28-2009, 06:04 PM
torrent.

does MM ever take in homeless people into his home?

Don't think so.

greg63
09-29-2009, 12:02 AM
Moore is an idiot, but he's a rich idiot.

greg63
09-29-2009, 12:20 AM
Okay. I've seen the interview. Here's the first part.

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He's somewhere between us.

You folks are saying he's shitting on capitalism. I made the assumption that he was just bitching about the banks.

He's closer to my argument, where he's arguing about the top 1% gouging the rest of us, sometimes to our extreme detriment, to earn more money they don't need.

Which is a legitimate argument -- but then he uses that to lay down the law on capitalism way too broadly for me to be comfortable with. "Legalized greed" was where I draw the line.

Once again, people can't criticize Moore without making him sound like an enemy of the state.

But all he is, is the liberal version of Mark Levin. He's making outlandish claims, making a killing doing it, and playing those who hate him for his own personal gain. It's the same thing.

"They not only love their money, but they love our money..."

Don't let the faded red cap, blue jeans and tennis shoes fool ya; he is "they".

Guru
09-29-2009, 12:22 AM
I've been told that I'm doing a ton of crying today. The tears must be in a neverending tributary from my sockets. Imagine how cumbersome it must be for me to roam the halls at work with a bucket in tow.

Listen, conservatives want to bitch about Moore, go for it. I think he's pretty much the liberal version of Mark Levin, who conservatives here embrace with both arms.

I'm saying both folks are demogogues, and that somehow takes me out of the mainstream.Yep, you have your finger on what drives Conservatives.:shake:

greg63
09-29-2009, 12:28 AM
Yep, you have your finger on what drives Conservatives.:shake:

I thought is was our BMW's.

Direckshun
09-29-2009, 12:57 AM
"They not only love their money, but they love our money..."

Don't let the faded red cap, blue jeans and tennis shoes fool ya; he is "they".

Basically.

Deberg_1990
09-29-2009, 06:20 AM
Moore is an idiot, but he's a rich idiot.

His schtik has always been the "everyman/little guy" taking on the rich/powerful white guys.

Which, 20 years ago, he actually was that. Now his act doesnt make any sense, because hes profited from the priciples of capitalism and hes now become a rich/powerful white guy.

HonestChieffan
09-29-2009, 06:22 AM
great place for H1N1 to show up

RaiderH8r
09-29-2009, 12:26 PM
Conservatives, of all people, should know that demogogues who spew ridiculous, partisan rhetoric can make a killing.

Indeed they can. Indeed they can.
http://blog.silive.com/weather/gore.jpg

KCWolfman
09-29-2009, 12:27 PM
Indeed they can. Indeed they can.
http://blog.silive.com/weather/gore.jpg

The earth is burning up... THE EARTH IS BURNING UP!!!!!! Someone save my Nobel!!!

blaise
09-29-2009, 12:31 PM
The earth is burning up... THE EARTH IS BURNING UP!!!!!! Someone save my Nobel!!!

Hurry, hurry! To the private jet!

JohnnyV13
09-29-2009, 12:37 PM
Moore's first movie, "Roger and Me" was funny. He was lamblasting GM for outsourcing plants to Mexico, (which I am not so sure I agree with), BUT, many of the things happening in flint where bizarre and ridiculous.

THe best was the marketing guy employed by the city of flint, to make Flint a tourism destination! Oh yeah, "Come see our urban blight! Enjoy the sights and sounds of mass unemployment and human misery. If you thought your life sucked, enjoy how good you have it after looking at these poor schmucks!"

There was also the future Miss America who declared, "its my time to party!", while parading down main street in Flint.

Baby Lee
09-30-2009, 08:31 AM
Okay. I've seen the interview. Here's the first part.

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He's somewhere between us.

You folks are saying he's shitting on capitalism. I made the assumption that he was just bitching about the banks.

He's closer to my argument, where he's arguing about the top 1% gouging the rest of us, sometimes to our extreme detriment, to earn more money they don't need.

Which is a legitimate argument -- but then he uses that to lay down the law on capitalism way too broadly for me to be comfortable with. "Legalized greed" was where I draw the line.

Once again, people can't criticize Moore without making him sound like an enemy of the state.

But all he is, is the liberal version of Mark Levin. He's making outlandish claims, making a killing doing it, and playing those who hate him for his own personal gain. It's the same thing.

Difference being, the very things that Moore bitches about form the foundation of his wealth. If you want a 'conservative' analog, find Ron Paul's pile of money from Blackwater contracts, or Fred Phelps' pile of money from planning gay weddings. Maybe some vocal critic of healthcare reform who goes to Sweden every time (s)he needs a checkup.

SNR
09-30-2009, 09:43 AM
Difference being, the very things that Moore bitches about form the foundation of his wealth. If you want a 'conservative' analog, find Ron Paul's pile of money from Blackwater contracts, or Fred Phelps' pile of money from planning gay weddings. Maybe some vocal critic of healthcare reform who goes to Sweden every time (s)he needs a checkup.Is there money to be made in planning gay weddings? I hadn't heard.

greg63
09-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Is there money to be made in planning gay weddings? I hadn't heard.

...Wonder how much Rosie O'Donnell spent on her's?

Velvet_Jones
09-30-2009, 10:24 AM
I haven't seen any of his movies and never will.

I uses one of his DVDs to level out my kitchen table. They are good something.

Reaper16
09-30-2009, 10:44 AM
I uses one of his DVDs to level out my kitchen table. They are good something.
ESL, I take it? You're really improving; keep up the progress.

Direckshun
10-01-2009, 09:29 PM
Part of the early review from James Berardinelli. He gave it three stars out of four.

http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=1805

This is something to be seen before dinner, not afterwards. One does not leave this movie benumbed and feeling as if two hours of special effects have dulled the mind. Moore's goal is not to have legions of sheep parroting his words but to generate discussion. And, at least on this occasion, his attacks cross party lines. This isn't an all-out frontal assault against the G.O.P. Moore takes aim at Democrats as well. In fact, his thesis states that the U.S. Government from the Reagan era on (including Clinton) has systematically betrayed the American public, with the highest point of this betrayal coming via the TARP bailout. He places the blame for that squarely on the shoulders of George W. Bush and the Democrat leaders in the House and Senate. (Pelosi and Reid, this means you!) And he lambasts Chris Dodd (D - Connecticut) with charges of hypocrisy most foul.

Moore is not beyond showing a little favoritism, however. He implies that Barak Obama entered the White House as a reformer but the purity of his mission and message of Change was quickly defiled by the money being tossed around by the denizens of Wall Street. This charge, which is never explicitly stated, is not pursued. Moore appears unwilling to make a statement that could be construed as an outright condemnation of anything associated with Obama. It is not mentioned, for example, that Obama was a fierce backer of the bailout and touted the familiar line that it was "distasteful but necessary" (a position that Moore vehemently opposes). So, although one can argue that Capitalism is as close to non-partisan as Moore has gotten during the course of his filmmaking career, his hands-off approach to Obama opens him up to criticism.

Jenson71
10-01-2009, 10:17 PM
That was a horrible interview on Conan.