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petegz28
09-29-2009, 08:05 AM
NEW YORK — New York's iconic Empire State Building will light up red and yellow Wednesday in honor of the 60th anniversary of communist China.

The Chinese consul, Peng Keyu, and other officials will take part in the lighting ceremony which will bathe the skyscraper in the colors of the People's Republic until Thursday, Empire State Building representatives said in a statement.

The upper sections of the building are regularly illuminated to mark special occasions, ranging from all blue to mark "Old Blue Eyes" Frank Sinatra's death in 1998 to green for the annual Saint Patrick's Day.

Just last week the tower turned bright red.

However, that was not to mark some other communist achievement, but the 70th anniversary of the film "The Wizard of Oz" in which Dorothy wears ruby slippers rather than the silver of the original L. Frank Baum novel.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hUZamhqvPGVrYZpGq_clUpC7dAUg




Yay Communism......:rolleyes:

mikey23545
09-29-2009, 08:09 AM
WHAT THE F#CK?!?!??!

mikey23545
09-29-2009, 08:11 AM
I can't wait till the next anniversary of 9-11 so we can turn it blood-red and Obama can lead a ticker-tape parade for militant muslims through the streets...

banyon
09-29-2009, 08:19 AM
RAGE, ANGRY!! ANGRY!

Wait, does Obama control the day to day maintenance of the Empire State Building?

Radar Chief
09-29-2009, 08:26 AM
RAGE, ANGRY!! ANGRY!

Wait, does Obama control the day to day maintenance of the Empire State Building?

I’m sure he has a czar for that.

petegz28
09-29-2009, 08:30 AM
RAGE, ANGRY!! ANGRY!

Wait, does Obama control the day to day maintenance of the Empire State Building?

I don't give a fuck who controls it. We are celebrating a communist country with a less then stellar record on human rights.

Garcia Bronco
09-29-2009, 09:21 AM
I don't give a **** who controls it. We are celebrating a communist country with a less then stellar record on human rights.

Exactly.

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 09:25 AM
I don't give a **** who controls it. We are celebrating a communist country with a less then stellar record on human rights.

Except, they're more capitalist than we are nowadays!

Do you recall the Chinese flag being flown over the WH?

Der Flöprer
09-29-2009, 09:28 AM
I'd have a problem with this if they didn't own The Empire State Building. If they don't own it, they own plenty of other parts of America. Get over it. We'll be speaking Chinese by the end of this century anyways.

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 09:32 AM
Except, they're more capitalist than we are nowadays!

You're joking again, right?

Do you recall the Chinese flag being flown over the WH?

I don't think so.

Chocolate Hog
09-29-2009, 03:01 PM
Thats because China will be owning the Empire State building

banyon
09-29-2009, 04:13 PM
I don't give a **** who controls it. We are celebrating a communist country with a less then stellar record on human rights.

mikey did, and I was referring to his post.

Brock
09-29-2009, 04:14 PM
A nice overlay of tank treads and skulls would be appropriate for this celebration too.

wild1
09-29-2009, 04:17 PM
Edit - a private company owns and/or manages it, W&H Properties.

The China tourism board has an office there. Perhaps this is merely to impress their client?

InChiefsHell
09-29-2009, 04:19 PM
Do they seriously own the Empire State Building??

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 04:30 PM
You're joking again, right?



I don't think so.



No I'm not. Last I read it was in China Daily. But FactCheck which is left ( Annenberg) says they issued a correction.

China Daily (July 13): The national flag of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) will be hoisted at the South Lawn of the White House in Washington on September 20, media reported Sunday.

Chinese associations in the United States had applied to hold a ceremony in front of the US President’s residence to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the founding of PRC.



http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/chinese-flag/

The correction claims it flew over the Ellipse instead. But that's called the President's Park, is still national govt property and was still used to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China.
Just as bad imo. Just more under the radar.

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 04:35 PM
Thomas diLorenzo commenting on what one of his students found on his trip to China.

Several years ago a very bright undergraduate student of mine (who attended Mises University) spent his junior year studying in China. When he came back he said, “There’s more freedom to be an entrepreneur in China than there is here.” After he graduated he worked here for several years, saved his money, learned Chinese, and went back to China where he is trying his hand at entrepreneurship today.

And by Lew:

My old friend David Franke has recently made two long trips to China, and found it far more capitalist than the US. Indeed, says David, the whole place is a land of entrepreneurs, and safe besides. Unlike David’s DC climes, Beijing has virtually no crime. We both agreed that Jim Rogers has it right: the future is in Asia. True, David notes, China has a fascist government, but so does the US. The one difference: they don’t drape the fraud-cloth of democracy on theirs. Meanwhile, notes David Kramer, Chuck Baldwin can’t bear to see a capitalist flag flown over the white house.


:banghead:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/date/2009/09/10

banyon
09-29-2009, 04:52 PM
No I'm not. Last I read it was in China Daily. But FactCheck which is left ( Annenberg) says they issued a correction.




http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/chinese-flag/

The correction claims it flew over the Ellipse instead. But that's called the President's Park, is still national govt property and was still used to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China.
Just as bad imo. Just more under the radar.


oops

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Did someone say something?

banyon
09-29-2009, 05:44 PM
Did someone say something?

I think you forgot you had me on fake ignore earlier today:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6123392&postcount=16

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 05:46 PM
huh? LMAO

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 06:43 PM
Thomas diLorenzo commenting on what one of his students found on his trip to China.

And by Lew:

:banghead:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/date/2009/09/10

Well, it's pretty widely known now that China's capitalism is growing. I didn't know you actually thought they are 'more capitalist' than we are. I guess if some student makes an observation about it though, it's true?

Did you like their latest stimulus package, though?

Warrior5
09-29-2009, 06:59 PM
Wow.

Do the owners of the Empire State Building illuminate it red, white, and blue on the 4th of July?

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 07:03 PM
Wow.

Do the owners of the Empire State Building illuminate it red, white, and blue on the 4th of July?

Yeah

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 07:05 PM
Well, it's pretty widely known now that China's capitalism is growing. I didn't know you actually thought they are 'more capitalist' than we are. I guess if some student makes an observation about it though, it's true?

Did you like their latest stimulus package, though?

It wasn't just a student though and that was from two that understand economics; one a professor of the subject.

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 07:07 PM
It wasn't just a student though and that was from two that understand economics; one a professor of the subject.

Isn't there some sort of objective way by looking at stats and data that we could determine whether a country is more capitalistic than another?

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 07:10 PM
Isn't there some sort of objective way by looking at stats and data that we could determine whether a country is more capitalistic than another?

What is so un-objective about personally, directly observing and experiencing it?
I know another businessman who used to live in Hong Kong but now actually prefers China.
It's pretty common knowledge that they've liberalized their economy toward a more market approach. Even Sweden has. Socialism doesn't work and doesn't lift up.

Next time you go someplace and you see something....I'll tell you that you didn't see it, that it's anecdotal etc. Afterall, that's what the commies did to my aunt when she visited the Soviet Union in the 1980's. She saw a wonderful country home whose gate opened. She was told by the state tour guide that she did not see that when my aunt mentioned it.

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 07:21 PM
What is so un-objective about personally, directly observing and experiencing it?
I know another businessman who used to live in Hong Kong but now actually prefers China.

Saying "I went to China and it's really capitalist" might be true. But the degree to which it is true is really up in the air if that's all we know. Why is it really capitalist? Because someone said so? That's not very reasonable. Maybe because they have 850,000 privately owned companies and pay a tax rate of less than 20% in total. See how that is more objective? It tries to distance itself from unqualified personal feelings. I could say China is really nice. Is that objective? Not really. I may have been to China personally and even experienced it. But why is it nice? I have to qualify that with something like "Nice places have parks, monuments, clean public restrooms, tasty food. China has these and not many bad things. So China is nice."

It's pretty common knowledge that they've liberalized their economy toward a more market approach. Even Sweden has. Socialism doesn't work and doesn't lift up.


Yeah that's what I just said. But I didn't know China was more capitalist than the US now.

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 07:25 PM
Saying "I went to China and it's really capitalist" might be true. But the degree to which it is true is really up in the air if that's all we know. Why is it really capitalist? Because someone said so? That's not very reasonable. Maybe because they have 850,000 privately owned companies and pay a tax rate of less than 20% in total. See how that is more objective? It tries to distance itself from unqualified personal feelings. I could say China is really nice. Is that objective? Not really. I may have been to China personally and even experienced it. But why is it nice? I have to qualify that with something like "Nice places have parks, monuments, clean public restrooms, tasty food. China has these and not many bad things. So China is nice."
Except the students were economics ones trained in the most free-market school of economics—the Austrian school. They know what to look for.

You haven't made a real argument.

Yeah that's what I just said. But I didn't know China was more capitalist than the US now.

Use some critical thinking and connect the dots by compariing what's being done today in this country with the recent nationalizatons. Only problem is you'll just deny what it really is.

China has a more capitalist economy ( they bought a lot of gold too ) with a fascist govt now.

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Except the students were economics ones trained in the most free-market school of economics—the Austrian school. They know what to look for.

You haven't made a real argument.

Then they should be better able to qualify their argument. I haven't made much of a real argument. You made it, and I'm just asking for the proof. So where's the proof?

China has a more capitalist economy ( they bought a lot of gold too ) with a fascist govt now.

Where's the proof?

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Are you done with you childish nonsense?

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 07:36 PM
Are you done with you childish nonsense?

Are you talking to me?

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 08:19 PM
Are you talking to me?

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery....even if unoriginal and a type of theft. ( you're all for theft)

Still this is so cool and awesome....now I get to say"

commie commiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommie LMAO

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 08:28 PM
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery....even if unoriginal and a type of theft. ( you're all for theft)

Still this is so cool and awesome....now I get to say"

commie commiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommiecommie LMAO

Huh? I don't know why you think me asking for objective evidence that China is more capitalist friendly than the US is childish nonsense.

Reaper16
09-29-2009, 08:32 PM
I, for one, welcome our new, Chinese, masters. America's food culture will improve thousands-fold.

BucEyedPea
09-29-2009, 08:38 PM
Huh? I don't know why you think me asking for objective evidence that China is more capitalist friendly than the US is childish nonsense.
Here I thought you were indicating you were ignoring me. How unfortunate it's not true.'

I gave you evidence...your point is merely an allegation it's not objective. Miseans would be quick to point out what isn't capitalist since they're critical of non-capitalist countries particularly the US. In fact they're even more discerning and objective. You apparently have missed numerous posts of mine and others using their links.

Jenson71
09-29-2009, 09:03 PM
Here I thought you were indicating you were ignoring me. How unfortunate it's not true.'

I gave you evidence...your point is merely an allegation it's not objective. Miseans would be quick to point out what isn't capitalist since they're critical of non-capitalist countries particularly the US. In fact they're even more discerning and objective. You apparently have missed numerous posts of mine and others using their links.

How could I be ignoring you?

You're still not giving any evidence that China is more capitalist than the United States. I don't think you can, so we'll just get on with things now.

RJ
09-29-2009, 09:07 PM
So we're $300 + billion in debt to them and we're supposed to be indignant about some red and yellow lights on a big building?

petegz28
09-29-2009, 09:12 PM
So we're $300 + billion in debt to them and we're supposed to be indignant about some red and yellow lights on a big building?

God damn, man. Have you no pride in anything?

KILLER_CLOWN
09-29-2009, 09:24 PM
Everyone now readily accepts globalism, Good bye America. :(

RJ
09-29-2009, 09:40 PM
God damn, man. Have you no pride in anything?


Stop and ponder this for a moment.

Which is more important, a three hundred billion dollar debt or some lights on a building?

Which is a greater threat to our national security?

Which is more hurtful to our pride?

I try my best to not buy Chinese products, but it gets harder all the time.

petegz28
09-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Stop and ponder this for a moment.

Which is more important, a three hundred billion dollar debt or some lights on a building?

Which is a greater threat to our national security?

Which is more hurtful to our pride?

I try my best to not buy Chinese products, but it gets harder all the time.

Stop and ponder this.. I think both are as fucking shameful as it gets.

RJ
09-29-2009, 09:50 PM
Stop and ponder this.. I think both are as ****ing shameful as it gets.


But which one caused the other?

petegz28
09-29-2009, 09:53 PM
But which one caused the other?

Irrelevant. Both are fucking shameful. Our government is fucked in the head when it comes to China.