****Official MNF Thread: Dolphins vs. Jets****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Marc Anthony has already fueled the ROFLCopter with his rendition of the National Anthem in that ridiculous suit and sunglasses combo.

[Dylan]

Talk about an immediate return on investment LOL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Talk about an immediate return on investment LOL

I wonder how many of the Hispanic fans might have dual allegiances since the Jets have a Mexican QB??

Or, do Cubans hate Mexicans? I don't really know.

[DeezNutz]

Dolphins line looks to be missing New Dookie.

[Dylan]

i didn't expect the dolphins offense to hold off jets in the first play

[Marcellus]

They wont let Henne throw 5 passes tonight. Brown will have 8 or 9.

[Sure-Oz]

Who needs a QB

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Pace has already missed two big tackles.

[Sure-Oz]

hispanic officiating month

[The Bad Guy]

Is it me, or did Mark Anthony look like James Carville with hair?

[Demonpenz]

the lowrider pulling in the score grafic was a nice touch

[Demonpenz]

Is it me, or did Mark Anthony look like James Carville with hair?

what about Reba Mcintire looking like dana carvey with a red wing

[ChiefsCountry]

I wonder how many of the Hispanic fans might have dual allegiances since the Jets have a Mexican QB??

Or, do Cubans hate Mexicans? I don't really know.

Clark didn't realize the money machine he could have had with Sanchez and Gonzalez. We could have been the Hispanic's NFL team. :D

[Dylan]

dolphins will make a statement if they score on their first offensive series

[Sure-Oz]

Ronnie brown TD

[Dylan]

7-8 minute drive by the dolphins ... nice

what happened to the blitz?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That was quite a drive, but it'll be interesting to see if they can maintain that kind of offensive movement.

[Hootie]

the Jets were the hot pick...opened at -1 and closed at -3...everyone was betting the Jets...didn't make any sense to me...Miami is a good team that is well coached...and the fans have a Monday Night HOME game...so you know they are going to bring their A game...and they face a ROOKIE QB coming off a terrible game...

So yeah, I tool the Dolphins money line and put a lot of gambling points on them via my geebler (19th of 138 right now, first prize is $5000)...

[Dylan]

runners vs turnovers = wins the game...

what happened to ryans 1000 blitzes?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Seminole FAIL

[Hootie]

man...I'm up 24 in fantasy and I'm going against Ronnie Brown.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

that was the greatest fake punt of all time.

[Hootie]

looked offsides there...

[Sure-Oz]

Crowder fucked up

[Hootie]

only a few QB's can make that throw!

[Dylan]

that was a momentum turner for the jets

[Mecca]

Hootie you really can't say shit about any QB's ever again after that Carson Palmer shit you spewed.

[Marcellus]

Hate that play on 2nd down.

[ChiefsCountry]

Hootie you really can't say shit about any QB's ever again after that Carson Palmer shit you spewed.

No kidding especially with his comebacks against Pitt and Baltimore.

[Hootie]

Hootie you really can't say shit about any QB's ever again after that Carson Palmer shit you spewed.

Yeah, he does look pretty solid thus far...

We'll see if he keeps it up. I'd still take 12-15 QB's over him.

[Hootie]

No kidding especially with his comebacks against Pitt and Baltimore.

he's been good when it counts, no questioning that...

[Tiger's Fan]

Hootie you really can't say shit about any QB's ever again after that Carson Palmer shit you spewed.

Carson Palmer hasn't won shit.

[Mecca]

No kidding especially with his comebacks against Pitt and Baltimore.

"He's immobile he can't move"

As Palmer has scrambled for first downs on 4th several times this year...uh huh

[Dylan]

not a good throw by mark in the endzone.

[Dylan]

Nice ... catch by Edwards!!! Good job Mark

[Hootie]

"He's immobile he can't move"

As Palmer has scrambled for first downs on 4th several times this year...uh huh

I said he doesn't have good pocket awareness as well...and I still don't see it...it's not like that offense is lighting it up or anything...Cedric Benson is the MVP of that team so far.

[Marcellus]

He could have made a PBJ back there.

[Sure-Oz]

Braylon Edwards TD

thank you cleveland, he might have value for my fantasy team yet

['Hamas' Jenkins]

SANCHEZ SUCKS!!!/Pioli Zombie.

[Hootie]

wow...his numbers are ALMOST as good as thigpens last year LMAO

except he gets sacked more...and he has a RB averaging 5 YPC...

Yeah, he's made two clutch, quality drives...but in between...he has sucked...Benson has carried them offensively...and their defense keeps them in games.

[Mecca]

This is great, Palmer has lead the Bengals on game winning drives every game this year and Hootie tries to credit Cedric Benson.

[Hootie]

Cincy is going to be the favorite against Houston next week...

I bet Houston wins.

[Hootie]

This is great, Palmer has lead the Bengals on game winning drives every game this year and Hootie tries to credit Cedric Benson.

Benson has been EXCELLENT...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

wow...his numbers are ALMOST as good as thigpens last year LMAO

except he gets sacked more...and he has a RB averaging 5 YPC...

Yeah, he's made two clutch, quality drives...but in between...he has sucked...Benson has carried them offensively...and their defense keeps them in games.

Whatever thought you have, type the exact opposite, and you'll be right.

[Mecca]

Keep telling yourself what you want, fact remains you were completely wrong about that just like well everything else.

[Mecca]

Whatever thought you have, type the exact opposite, and you'll be right.

Hootie has the worst takes ever, unless it's about date rape or fiddling with your roommates cock.

[tboss27]

Edwards went for only a 3rd and 5th?? Why weren't we offering that

[Mecca]

Edwards went for only a 3rd and 5th?? Why weren't we offering that

And a couple of scrub players only Mangini would want.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Rickey runs for ganja

[Sure-Oz]

Damn ricky can run still

[DeezNutz]

SANCHEZ SUCKS!!!/Pioli Zombie.

He pulled a Sanchez.

[Hootie]

Keep telling yourself what you want, fact remains you were completely wrong about that just like well everything else.

where else was I wrong? Was I wrong about Chris Johnson? Want to take a look at my betting history this year on games?

I've had a pretty damn good year ROFL

Palmer is better than I predicted, but he's still not a top 10 NFL QB...

Peyton
GAP
GAP
GAP
GAP
Brady
Brees
Roethlisberger
Eli
Warner
McNabb
Rivers
Ryan
Cutler

[Mecca]

Hamas should post your baseball takes those were pretty funny.

[Hootie]

Hootie has the worst takes ever, unless it's about date rape or fiddling with your roommates cock.

Yep...I mean, I only won my friends a SHIT TON of money picking the two biggest locks of the decade two straight weeks.

The Vikings were playing A HOME GAME at the Edward Jones Dome...the Rams can do ONE thing (run) and you can't do that against the Vikings...

Nothing like persuading an entire bar to bet money on the Vikings...and then watching the Vikings win by 100.

[Hootie]

Hamas should post your baseball takes those were pretty funny.

what...the ones where someone said 2nd baseman have weak arms?

ROFL

This isn't 1980 anymore...

What are my baseball takes? Enlighten me.

The Cardinals were the best team in the NL...they got swept in the playoffs...it's bullshit...the playoffs are a total crapshoot. If you put the Royals in the postseason...they'd win a series or two every once in a while...and shit, with Greinke...who knows.

[WilliamTheIrish]

This is a great thread. Getting to listen to Hootie and his jilted lover argue over 'takes'. You boys and your foreplay..

[Hootie]

mecca is gushing over a QB that has a 77 QB rating...if Cassel had those numbers (even with the nice game ending drives) I guarantee he wouldn't be gushing over him.

[the Talking Can]

is tony sparano wearing a tent?

[BigMeatballDave]

Hootie has the worst takes ever, unless it's about date rape or fiddling with your roommates cock.ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

That would be filed under "shit call".

[Dylan]

maybe mark should try throwing a deep to braylon -- to get something going

i'm still waiting for Ryan's dominating blitzing Jets defense to show up LMAO

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That one's on Keller, but he's made a couple of inaccurate throws he has to fix, or the Jets will be in a hole.

[Dylan]

where else was I wrong? Was I wrong about Chris Johnson? Want to take a look at my betting history this year on games?

I've had a pretty damn good year ROFL

Palmer is better than I predicted, but he's still not a top 10 NFL QB...

Peyton
GAP
GAP
GAP
GAP
Brady
Brees
Roethlisberger
Eli
Warner
McNabb
Rivers
Ryan
Cutler


what did brees ever win except fanatasy points... he's a fantasy QB -- that's it in a nutshell

this is the nfl -- winning is all that counts. who cares they can throw 5,000 yds a game -- he had his chance to make it to the big game -- well, he failed ... LMAO

['Hamas' Jenkins]

what...the ones where someone said 2nd baseman have weak arms?

ROFL

This isn't 1980 anymore...

What are my baseball takes? Enlighten me.

The Cardinals were the best team in the NL...they got swept in the playoffs...it's bullshit...the playoffs are a total crapshoot. If you put the Royals in the postseason...they'd win a series or two every once in a while...and shit, with Greinke...who knows.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6108134&postcount=1448

In honor of former Cub Marquis' collapse, I thought it might be funny to play some of fucktard Hootie's greatest hits about the St. Louis Cardinals:

On the Cardinals farm system:

Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4902291#post4902291)
Who? Who? Who? Who?

Colby Rasmus is the only one of those that will ever amount to anything. He's the only top prospect the Cardinals have.

Some farm system!!!!!!!!11
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11 months later that same farm system landed Matt Holiday and Mark DeRosa.

Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4902299#post4902299)
The Cubs built the perfect team...

Big Z, Harden and Dempster in the playoffs...

You win with the bullpen and your bench down the stretch...who has a better bullpen or bench than the Cubs?
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The Cubs went 0-3. Those pitchers are a combined 27-23 with ERAs of 3.68, 3.91, and 4.09.

On the Cubs being built for the future:

Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=4902337#post4902337)
Why do the Cubs need a farm system? CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!

YOU GOT BLANCO'D!

Back to the farm system...

We are set at LF, RF, 3rd, SS, 2nd, 1st, C and have a damn good pitching staff...

so have fun with your one top prospect and 5 other stiffs that might turn out but probably not...
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ROFLCopter.

As I said in response:

"You better savor this year because you guys are going to need a massive rebuild and soon."

[WilliamTheIrish]

Nice bullrush by Jenkins..

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Kerry Rhodes is a really good safety. God, I'd love to have a guy like that on our team.

[TheGuardian]

what did brees ever win except fanatasy points... he's a fantasy QB -- that's it in a nutshell

this is the nfl -- winning is all that counts. lol

When has he had a defense on the other side of him to keep him from having to score so many points? He really hasn't. Except for this year. and the Saints are 4-0. Go figure.

[DeezNutz]

Nice bullrush by Jenkins..

That's a big, powerful human.

[WilliamTheIrish]

That's a big, powerful human.

He had a couple of poor seasons after Carolina. Was he hurt or is this a contract year? That guy has been playing possessed.

[Hootie]

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=6108134&postcount=1448


LMAO

Ok buddy...I'm sure we all thought Carpenter was capable of coming back and putting together a Cy Young caliber year...

And the Cardinals got swept by the Dodgers, just like the Cubs...so...

[DeezNutz]

He had a couple of poor seasons after Carolina. Was he hurt or is this a contract year? That guy has been playing possessed.

Believe he's battled injury at points in his career.

4-time PBer, though.

[DeezNutz]

Herm to the right. Herm to the left.

Fuck you, Carl.

[Coach]

what did brees ever win except fanatasy points... he's a fantasy QB -- that's it in a nutshell

this is the nfl -- winning is all that counts. who cares they can throw 5,000 yds a game -- he had his chance to make it to the big game -- well, he failed ... LMAO

You are crazy. Brees is a very good QB. Easily in the top 10. Just because he can throw 4,000 yards, doesn't mean he's just a "fantasy" QB. He has excellent footwork, solid mechanics, and is a very smart QB.

[DeezNutz]

Edwards is going to be a shitty addition to that team.

[Marcellus]

Braylon is going to help Sanchez big time.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

LMAO

Ok buddy...I'm sure we all thought Carpenter was capable of coming back and putting together a Cy Young caliber year...

And the Cardinals got swept by the Dodgers, just like the Cubs...so...

So...I never said that the Cardinals had the perfect team, or were built perfectly for the playoffs.

[Sure-Oz]

Nice catch by edwards

[Dylan]

Right here:

Drew Brees

On January 13, 2007, in his first playoff game for New Orleans, Brees was 20-32 in passing attempts with 1 touchdown and no interceptions vs. the Philadelphia Eagles in the Louisiana Superdome.

On January 21, 2007, Brees led the Saints to the franchise's first NFC Championship Game against the Chicago Bears. Though he completed 27 of 49 passes for 354 yards, and two touchdowns, Brees committed three costly turnovers. He was also penalized for an intentional grounding in the endzone, resulting in a safety. The Saints eventually lost to the Bears, 39-14.[6] After the season, Brees dislocated his left elbow during the first quarter of the 2007 Pro Bowl.[7] Despite not reaching the Super Bowl, the season was seen as a success for the team that was still suffering from the effects of Hurricane Katrina and finished last in the division a year ago at 3-13.

Brees had his chance to lead his team.

Fantasy QB

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That's a big, powerful human.

*don't have the gumption to put Jimmy the Greek's take here*

[DeezNutz]

*don't have the gumption to put Jimmy the Greek's take here*

For the best. :)

[Hootie]

So...I never said that the Cardinals had the perfect team, or were built perfectly for the playoffs.

Do you think the Cardinals are/were the best team in the NL this year?

[DeezNutz]

Do you think the Cardinals are/were the best team in the NL this year?

I don't think there is a "best" team in the NL this year. Several have been at times.

Every one of the them will lose to NY in the Series.

[DeezNutz]

2 fakes? Damn.

[Sure-Oz]

Another fake

[Marcellus]

Balsy ST playing tonight.

[dirk digler]

wow 2 fake punts in 1 game. I like that

[Stinger]

Wow ..... 2 Fake punts in the first half

[DeezNutz]

Great play by Smith.

[Mecca]

Rex Ryan is awesome.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Do you think the Cardinals are/were the best team in the NL this year?

Absolutely not. They had a suspect bullpen with a terrible closer who was riding an unsustainable run of luck, and their plate discipline was god fucking awful. Their offense produced far below what they should have due to poor coaching, and they couldn't hit left handed pitching worth a rat shit.

I love them, but that was not a very good team. Had they played in October like they did in August, sure, but that team was chugging cock for the better part of a month. Save for April and August, they were a sub .500 team.

[DeezNutz]

Great reaction by Ryan. We're ok...

[Dylan]

not a good throw by sanchez looks like smith made up for it -- excellent

[dirk digler]

wow 4 1st round draft choices on the O-Line.

[Sure-Oz]

jblow

['Hamas' Jenkins]

wow 4 1st round draft choices on the O-Line.

Tha Brick was #4, Mangold was like 29, and the other two were UFA's. They spent two of their own on the OL, and only one was a really high pick.

[Hootie]

wow 4 1st round draft choices on the O-Line.

that's not how you build a team!

[DeezNutz]

wow 4 1st round draft choices on the O-Line.

ROFL

Knew this was coming, either as a post or a thread.

[Hootie]

Tha Brick was #4, Mangold was like 29, and the other two were UFA's. They spent two of their own on the OL, and only one was a really high pick.

didn't everyone throw the Jets under the bus for throwing all that money at those guys last year?

[Marcellus]

that's not how you build a team!

I hope not.

[Mecca]

It's great how they just list it as 4 first rounders and don't clarify only 1 was a high pick and only 2 were drafted by them.

[Pioli Zombie]

With the Jets offensive line, their running game, and defense, Sanchez has got it effen made and everything still looks so plodding and difficult. Anyone who sees this and compares it to when Cassel had a good supporting cast in New England and would rather have Sanchez is just a moron.
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[Hootie]

It's great how they just list it as 4 first rounders and don't clarify only 1 was a high pick and only 2 were drafted by them.

weren't you one of the guys killing the Jets for throwing all that money around last year?

[dirk digler]

ROFL

Knew this was coming, either as a post or a thread.

:D

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That's a fucking hell of a catch by a RB, even if it's negated by holding.

[Stinger]

The Olined Chiefed that play

[cdcox]

Good luck Dolphins getting anything going in the final 2 minutes now that Sanchez has forced you into burning all your time outs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

With the Jets offensive line, their running game, and defense, Sanchez has got it effen made and everything still looks so plodding and difficult. Anyone who sees this and compares it to when Cassel had a good supporting cast in New England and would rather have Sanchez is just a moron.
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You really are a fucking moron.

[Mecca]

You really are a fucking moron.

It's pretty bad when someones message board gimmick is to be a retard.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Tony Sparano has far too much Marty Schottenheimer in him to ever be successful.

[BigMeatballDave]

With the Jets offensive line, their running game, and defense, Sanchez has got it effen made and everything still looks so plodding and difficult. Anyone who sees this and compares it to when Cassel had a good supporting cast in New England and would rather have Sanchez is just a moron.
Posted via Mobile DeviceROFL Um, OK...

[Marcellus]

Little Herm is hurting them.

[Pioli Zombie]

You really are a fucking moron.
I mean I love how the Cassel haters keep saying he's 27! He's 27! So fucking what? He stepped in after not playing all that time and passed for nearly 4,000 yards. Sanchez can barely do a thing out there. Dink and dunk at best. So impressive. But he's went to USC so he must be great. And he plays in New York so he must be great. Whoopie.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

This dumb fucking Mexican rapist is shitting all over himself in the 2 minute drill.

[dirk digler]

Tony Sparano has far too much Marty Schottenheimer in him to ever be successful.

The Dolphins don't have much on offense outside of their RB's

[cdcox]

Let's see if Sanchez throws to a guy in the middle of the field.

[DeezNutz]

He pulled a reverse Cassel.

[dirk digler]

whoo who was that hot chick

[DeezNutz]

I'm SHOCKED that a n00b did that. Shocked.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I mean I love how the Cassel haters keep saying he's 27! He's 27! So fucking what? He stepped in after not playing all that time and passed for nearly 4,000 yards. Sanchez can barely do a things out there. Dink and dunk at best. So impressive. But he's went to USC so he must be great. And he plays in New York so he must be great. Whoopie.
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One guy had 4+ years of practices, film study, and homework to learn an NFL offense, to adjust to the speed and nuances of the game. One has had 4 months.

No one expected Sanchez to be better this year. That's a fucktarded strawman argument, but I expect no better from you.

[milkman]

This dumb ****ing Mexican rapist is shitting all over himself in the 2 minute drill.

No pocket presense.

The Reatardian told me so.

[Mecca]

One guy had 4+ years of practices, film study, and homework to learn an NFL offense, to adjust to the speed and nuances of the game. One has had 4 months.

No one expected Sanchez to be better this year. That's a fucktarded strawman argument, but I expect no better from you.

No one expected Sanchez to be better out of the gate and now the fact that this argument is being resorted to is a really really bad sign for Cassel.

[DeezNutz]

One guy had 4+ years of practices, film study, and homework to learn an NFL offense, to adjust to the speed and nuances of the game. One has had 4 months.

No one expected Sanchez to be better this year. That's a ****tarded strawman argument, but I expect no better from you.

No one even necessarily expected the n00b to fucking play this year.

[Pioli Zombie]

Wow. He drove them to a field goal. He's the next Elway. If only Cassel could do that.
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[dirk digler]

Does Sanchez have a bad knee he looked like he was running in cement on that play plus his knee is heavily wrapped?

[WilliamTheIrish]

chu--ckle to end the half..

[cdcox]

Wow. He drove them to a field goal. He's the next Elway. If only Cassel could do that.
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Yeah, we could have won the Raiders game.

[Sam Hall]

I didn't understand Jon Gruden when he said good things about Bill Callahan.

[Marcellus]

No one even necessarily expected the n00b to fucking play this year.

Really?

[Dylan]

i wish gruden would act like he's seen these things before

on and on and on and on about certain players

[DeezNutz]

Wow. He drove them to a field goal. He's the next Elway. If only Cassel could do that.
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I agree. He should have checked it down and burned the opportunity. Oh, wait...

[Pioli Zombie]

No one expected Sanchez to be better out of the gate and now the fact that this argument is being resorted to is a really really bad sign for Cassel.
Really? Cassels future is tied to an internet discussion? Wow, we're really important!
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[Mecca]

Yeah, we could have won the Raiders game.

That is going to leave a mark.

[Pioli Zombie]

Yeah, we could have won the Raiders game.

Uh, Cassel did it against the Raiders. The defense blew it.
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[DeezNutz]

Really?

Necessarily? No.

About the only poster on here who was certain of this was ROR.

Check some posts from the majority of the Sanchez proponents. Many were saying to let him sit.

[Mecca]

Uh, Cassel did it against the Raiders. The defense blew it.
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End of the first half dumbass.

[cdcox]

Uh, Cassel did it against the Raiders. The defense blew it.
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1st and 9 at OAK 9 M.Cassel pass short left to D.Savage to OAK 8 for 1 yard (N.Asomugha).
End of 1st Half

[Pioli Zombie]

That is going to leave a mark.
Hardly. Cassel led them to what should have been the game winning touchdown. His shit defense blew it. If the defense knew how to make a play the Chiefs win the game and Cassel is the hero. But that's the difference. The Jets are a good football team and Sanchez can be a hero throwing for 165 yards and the Chiefs fucking blow.
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[DeezNutz]

1st and 9 at OAK 9 M.Cassel pass short left to D.Savage to OAK 8 for 1 yard (N.Asomugha).
End of 1st Half

Those kinds of things happen. He's started less than 20 games, so we have to expect mistakes. Fuck, man.

[Deberg_1990]

Is it just me or does Josh McDaniels look like he should be playing in the X-Games, not coaching an NFL team....

[SenselessChiefsFan]

One guy had 4+ years of practices, film study, and homework to learn an NFL offense, to adjust to the speed and nuances of the game. One has had 4 months.

No one expected Sanchez to be better this year. That's a ****tarded strawman argument, but I expect no better from you.


While I think this is a pretty good point, I don't think we can overlook that Sanchez has a much better supporting offense, and a defense which takes the pressure off of him.

Also, Sanchez has had the same system for the last four months, where as, Cassel had his offense changed a few weeks ago. There is a reason teams have training camp.

[Mecca]

Those kinds of things happen. He's started less than 20 games, so we have to expect mistakes. Fuck, man.

Like I said the fact that we are even comparing Cassel and Sanchez in year 1 a year I thought Cassel would easily win, is a horrible sign.

[Pioli Zombie]

1st and 9 at OAK 9 M.Cassel pass short left to D.Savage to OAK 8 for 1 yard (N.Asomugha).
End of 1st Half

The end of the game is what fucking matters. The Chiefs had the lead thanks to Cassel and the defense gave it up to JeMarcus Russell.
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[Mecca]

While I think this is a pretty good point, I don't think we can overlook that Sanchez has a much better supporting offense, and a defense which takes the pressure off of him.

Also, Sanchez has had the same system for the last four months, where as, Cassel had his offense changed a few weeks ago. There is a reason teams have training camp.

So basically your argument is Cassel is struggling because Todd Haley is a retard?

[cdcox]

The end of the game is what ****ing matters.
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You mean those 3 points that the Jets just scored don't count in the final score? I wonder if they know that.

[Pioli Zombie]

Like I said the fact that we are even comparing Cassel and Sanchez in year 1 a year I thought Cassel would easily win, is a horrible sign.
If you thought Cassel would "easily win" when he plays for the Kansas CIty Chiefs you are an idiot.
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[Marcellus]

Like I said the fact that we are even comparing Cassel and Sanchez in year 1 a year I thought Cassel would easily win, is a horrible sign.

:rolleyes:

The fact we are comparing a highly talented team with a very untalented one is just as ridiculous.

[dirk digler]

Is it just me or does Josh McDaniels look like he should be playing in the X-Games, not coaching an NFL team....

no kidding but I am pretty surprised how well the Donkey's are doing.

[Mecca]

A rookie QB should not be outperforming a 27 year old when that 27 year old is suppose to be our franchise.

What happened to all those post about hitting the ground running, having years of practice learning from Brady and all that jazz?

Guess that all changes once the season starts, we can then go to the double speak arguments.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

:rolleyes:

The fact we are comparing a highly talented team with a very untalented one is just as ridiculous.

http://i31.tinypic.com/1olq2s.jpg

[stevieray]

I'm reminded of the girls who don't get dates to prom, and then wait at the entrance to watch everyone else.

[Pioli Zombie]

So basically your argument is Cassel is struggling because Todd Haley is a retard?
Cassel has a shit offensive line, no running game, a shitty defense, and so far an idiot for a coach. Sanchez has a good line, a good running game, a good defense, and so far a good coach. Hmmmmmm. I wonder who has the advantage. And still Sanchez hasn't shown much. That's a bad sign for Mark Sanchez.
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['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm reminded of the girls who don't get dates to prom, and then wait at the entrance to watch everyone else.

I'm reminded of how the moon is like a bowl of lime jello.


Wait, that fucking analogy makes no sense either...

[DeezNutz]

I'm reminded of the girls who don't get dates to prom, and then wait at the entrance to watch everyone else.

I'm sorry that you had to do that.

:)

[cdcox]

http://i31.tinypic.com/1olq2s.jpg

LMAO

[Mecca]

Stevie is here to defend the honor of the Chiefs.

Were you sad that Dallas Elvis took over the stadium?

[DeezNutz]

Cassel has a shit offensive line, no running game, a shitty defense, and so far an idiot for a coach. Sanchez has a good line, a good running game, a good defense, and so far a good coach. Hmmmmmm. I wonder who has the advantage. And still Sanchez hasn't shown much. That's a bad sign for Mark Sanchez.
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:grovel: please suck please suck please suck please suck please suck

[Pioli Zombie]

You mean those 3 points that the Jets just scored don't count in the final score? I wonder if they know that.
Ok so I guess getting 3 points at the end of the first half is more impressive than a touchdown drive in the closing minutes with a game on the line. Yeah. Good argument.
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[SenselessChiefsFan]

So basically your argument is Cassel is struggling because Todd Haley is a retard?

That is one of the main arguments, yes.

Hey, I bought in originally.... but how can you not question some of the playcalling and decisisons over the last 8 weeks?

Firing Chan Gailey was stupid.... The fact that Cassel has looked as good as he has given the utter cluster f@ck that this offense has been is a good sign.... and I know he hasn't looked that good... but, only two INT's coming off an injury against good teams, with a poor OL and suspect WRs.... all in a new system..... sorry, but I am not going to be critical of that.

It is like criticizing a surgeon using a broken bottle to do a labotomy.

[stevieray]

Stevie is here to defend the honor of the Chiefs.jeffrey is here to defend the honor of ....nothing.

[Dylan]

After the game, I couldn't believe Brady didn't meet Josh midfield & shake his hand

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ok so I guess getting 3 points at the end of the first half is more impressive than a touchdown drive in the closing minutes with a game on the line. Yeah. Good argument.
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I'll take "False Choice" for $600

[DeezNutz]

Ok so I guess getting 3 points at the end of the first half is more impressive than a touchdown drive in the closing minutes with a game on the line. Yeah. Good argument.
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Interpretation judges say: fail.

[dirk digler]

A rookie QB should not be outperforming a 27 year old when that 27 year old is suppose to be our franchise.

What happened to all those post about hitting the ground running, having years of practice learning from Brady and all that jazz?

Guess that all changes once the season starts, we can then go to the double speak arguments.

That is stupid stupid argument. Matt Ryan outperformed statistically Big Ben, Brett Favre and Eli Manning last year.

The crazy stat I heard yesterday was that Cassel was hit or sacked on 95% of his throws. That is just unheard of and he is lucky to be walking today.

[Mecca]

:grovel: please suck please suck please suck please suck please suck

I said this the other day, you can see how much some posters believe in Cassel because they've resorted to praying Sanchez sucks.

[Marcellus]

http://i31.tinypic.com/1olq2s.jpg

lol. Point taken.

[DeezNutz]

That is stupid stupid argument. Matt Ryan outperformed statistically Big Ben, Brett Favre and Eli Manning last year.

The crazy stat I heard yesterday was that Cassel was hit or sacked on 95% of his throws. That is just unheard of and he is lucky to be walking today.

It's an October miracle!

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Ok so I guess getting 3 points at the end of the first half is more impressive than a touchdown drive in the closing minutes with a game on the line. Yeah. Good argument.
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I think Sanchez and Cassel have both done some good things, and both have room to grow.

You can argue either side. I do think, for a rookie, Sanchez has been impressive.... and to aruge otherwise is not being intellectually honest.

[Deberg_1990]

How did the Cards give up on Thomas Jones?

Cedric Benson is starting to look like he might be another late bloomer like Jones was.

Weird....

[cdcox]

How many extra credit points does Sanchez get for having Brian Schottenheimer for an OC?

[dirk digler]

Should been another INT that makes 3 I think that was dropped. Like most rookies he stares down his receivers

[Mecca]

How did the Cards give up on Thomas Jones?

Cedric Benson is starting to look like he might be another late bloomer like Jones was.

Weird....

It's funny to see a team pick up Benson for peanuts off the scrap heap and get production while we get no production from a guy who makes 50 million dollars.

[Pioli Zombie]

I said this the other day, you can see how much some posters believe in Cassel because they've resorted to praying Sanchez sucks.
Don't need to pray. Nice throw to the Dolphin just then.
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[DeezNutz]

Should been another INT that makes 3 I think that was dropped. Like most rookies he stares down his receivers

Cassel, rookie.

Ok, I keed. I keed. (but it's still true)

[Mecca]

Don't need to pray. Nice throw to the Dolphin just then.
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Yea maybe he won't still be doing that 5 years later like Cassel is.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Don't need to pray. Nice throw to the Dolphin just then.
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Yes. Clearly he should have been able to stop the ball through telekinesis once Edwards fell down and it was 2/3 of the way there.

[Marcellus]

How many extra credit points does Sanchez get for having Brian Schottenheimer for an OC?

I was wondering the same thing earlier. Of course he has a stigma attached to him being the son of an offensively inept coach.

[Pioli Zombie]

I think Sanchez and Cassel have both done some good things, and both have room to grow.

You can argue either side. I do think, for a rookie, Sanchez has been impressive.... and to aruge otherwise is not being intellectually honest.
Please. But its intellectually honest to say Cassel sucks. Gotcha.
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[Iowanian]

Watching good football makes me sad.

[Deberg_1990]

It's funny to see a team pick up Benson for peanuts off the scrap heap and get production while we get no production from a guy who makes 50 million dollars.

LJ had a really strange career too. Barely any carries for 2 years, then ran into the ground the next 2. The 400 carry curse lives on....

[dirk digler]

Cassel, rookie.

Ok, I keed. I keed. (but it's still true)

Cassel's biggest problem is he holds on the ball forever

[Mecca]

Cassel's biggest problem is he holds on the ball forever

He locks onto receivers too...OTW has a thread about it.

[Pioli Zombie]

Btw, the Dolphins need to let Henne throw it more. He looks pretty capable.
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[DeezNutz]

Please. But its intellectually honest to say Cassel sucks. Gotcha.
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As much as I disliked the Cassel acquisition, I have still offered up some praise of his play during game threads, and have noted his 4th quarter drive yesterday.

Let's check the ethos of your Sanchez argument. Please describe.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Watching good football makes me sad.

At least you'll know what it looks like once we can do it again...if ever :shrug:

[DeezNutz]

Cassel's biggest problem is he holds on the ball forever

Is your avi talking? I don't read your posts. Not because I don't like you, just...you know.

[Marcellus]

Any chance we can just talk about the game going on? Ah, never mind.

[Mecca]

Yea they should let Chad Henne start chucking it around...ask Michigan fan how that usually ends.

[Stinger]

Any chance we can just talk about the game going on? Ah, never mind.

WTH????? R U New here......

LMAO LMAO LMAO

[ChiefsCountry]

How many extra credit points does Sanchez get for having Brian Schottenheimer for an OC?

He isn't like his dad.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Does anyone have a rug, or know anyone with a rug?

[Dylan]

Oh look -- nascrap

Go Juan Pablo Escabar!

Viva Bogota, Colombia

[dirk digler]

He locks onto receivers too...OTW has a thread about it.

I am sure he does but he holds on to the ball too long to lock on a WR most of the time.

[Pioli Zombie]

As much as I disliked the Cassel acquisition. I have still offered up some praise of his play during game threads, and have noted his 4th quarter drive yesterday.

Let's check the ethos of your Sanchez argument. Please describe.
Easy. He's been hailed as this can't miss great franchise qb that the Chiefs were somehow foolish not to draft and he's not that good.
He's an ok game manager. That's it.
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[DeezNutz]

Fucking Sanchez. Cassel would have prevented that.

[Mecca]

Does anyone have a rug, or know anyone with a rug?

They pissed on my fucking rug.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Perfect time to run a screen, IMO.

[DeezNutz]

Easy. He's been hailed as this can't miss great franchise qb that the Chiefs were somehow foolish not to draft and he's not that good.
He's an ok game manager. That's it.
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Ethos?

[Mecca]

I am sure he does but he holds on to the ball too long to lock on a WR most of the time.

This is what he does, he locks onto a WR and waits for him to get open, that's why he's holding the ball.

[Mecca]

See the Chiefs aren't the only team that gets that penalty...

[Pioli Zombie]

Yea they should let Chad Henne start chucking it around...ask Michigan fan how that usually ends.
Like the Saints game last week?
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[dirk digler]

Is your avi talking? I don't read your posts. Not because I don't like you, just...you know.

nlm

[the Talking Can]

that flag is such bullshit

you can't even play defense in the nfl anymore....

['Hamas' Jenkins]

If you want to have receivers by game 10, you better stop making throws like that.

[Stinger]

Not to get into the Sanchez/Cassel debate but that is about the 5th or 6th high throw from Sanchez he is going to get his recievers hurt if he keeps that up.

[TheGuardian]

LOL sanchez just locks onto his guy right from the snap. It's amazing he hasn't thrown 15 picks already this season.

[dirk digler]

This is what he does, he locks onto a WR and waits for him to get open, that's why he's holding the ball.

I could see that but most of the time he is running around like a chicken with his head cut off so it is hard to tell

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Defensive backs need to stop going for the kill shot, and start being taught to give WRs over the middle a AA spinebuster.

[Stinger]

See the Chiefs aren't the only team that gets that penalty...

So leading with your head is the same is the same as leading with your shoulder now??????

[Mecca]

So leading with your head is the same is the same as leading with your shoulder now??????

If you come in high with any kind of big looking hit you're going to get a penalty, Dallas got one yesterday.

[dirk digler]

That was helmet to helmet you are going to get that every time

[Pioli Zombie]

Ethos?

Can you read? That's what my argument is. The character of it. What's behind it. Are you cleverly trying to see if I know the definition of your lofty word?
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[Dartgod]

If you come in high with any kind of big looking hit you're going to get a penalty, Dallas got one yesterday.
Neither the Dallas hit nor the one we just saw were remotely close to the hit Page got flagged for.

[DeezNutz]

Can you read? That's what my argument is. The character of it. What's behind it. Are you cleverly trying to see if I know the definition of your lofty word?
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The character of your argument?

You mean your credibility as author, of course, but it's cool.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Can you read? That's what my argument is. The character of it. What's behind it. Are you cleverly trying to see if I know the definition of your lofty word?
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It's not a lofty word, it's a word that anyone who has taken one argumentative/persuasive class above high school knows. Just do your argument a favor and shut the fuck up, because you destroy your own credibility every time you post.

[Pioli Zombie]

The character of your argument?

You mean your credibility as author, of course, but it's cool.
What's yours Mr Wizard?
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[DeezNutz]

What's yours Mr Wizard?
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Already posted. No need to repeat.

[Mecca]

Neither the Dallas hit nor the one we just saw were remotely close to the hit Page got flagged for.

The one yesterday was because he was all shoulder.

You just have to realize if you come in high you're probably going to get a penalty.

[Hootie]

Benson got arrested like twice in a month span and Mecca is talking about how great of a pickup that was?

Y'ok...

[Hootie]

Mecca was 1,000% for trading Jared Allen...referred to him as an alcoholic etc. etc. etc.

and now he's talking up Cedric Benson.

LOL

[dirk digler]

Ronnie Brown is a stud

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Jenkins just got the best jump on any snap I've ever seen.

[dirk digler]

Revis lost his jock strap

[milkman]

The one yesterday was because he was all shoulder.

You just have to realize if you come in high you're probably going to get a penalty.

Essentially, what you're saying is it's okay that the officials got those calls wrong, even though everyone else watching saw that it wasn't helmet on helmet.

[ChiefsCountry]

This wildcat shit is getting old.

[dirk digler]

LMAO I have always wondered why more players didn't do that when no one is open instead of taking a huge loss

[Pioli Zombie]

It's not a lofty word, it's a word that anyone who has taken one argumentative/persuasive class above high school knows. Just do your argument a favor and shut the fuck up, because you destroy your own credibility every time you post.

Excuse me Mr Brilliant Cheetoh eating internet poster. I didn't realize football discussion requires college entrance exams. I didn't mean to intrude on this intellectual discussion.
Sanchez sucks shit.
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[Dartgod]

The one yesterday was because he was all shoulder.

You just have to realize if you come in high you're probably going to get a penalty.
The difference is that the Dallas play and the one tonight were on passes that were too high to catch. The one Page got flagged for would have been a catch if Page didn't separate the ball from the receiver.

[Stinger]

This wildcat shit is getting old.

This

[Mecca]

Essentially, what you're saying is it's okay that the officials got those calls wrong, even though everyone else watching saw that it wasn't helmet on helmet.

No I'm saying they basically always call those so for someone to act like the officials were out to get the Chiefs or something was ridiculous.

The Chiefs got the same call for them yesterday and there was already a post about how it wasn't the same.

The league is to the point where if you come in high it's probably going to be flagged.

[Easy 6]

Jaws calling out Grudens opinion of Revis was hilarious, they're arguing like the Planet...'you've been suckin Revis' dick all week John'.

ROFL

[dirk digler]

what a run by Ricky

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I just read on Mort's twitter that Pioli is going to sign Marc Anthony, since he's shown great versatility as a member of the Dolphins organization.

Looks to have him in shells by Wednesday.

[the Talking Can]

ricky williams looks faster than ever


less pot = +50 rpm

[Dylan]

so far (after four games), is there any team that really stands out for you in the AFC East? -

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Excuse me Mr Brilliant Cheetoh eating internet poster. I didn't realize football discussion requires college entrance exams. I didn't mean to intrude on this intellectual discussion.
Sanchez sucks shit.
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I'm not white trash. I don't eat Cheetos.

[milkman]

No I'm saying they basically always call those so for someone to act like the officials were out to get the Chiefs or something was ridiculous.

The Chiefs got the same call for them yesterday and there was already a post about how it wasn't the same.

The league is to the point where if you come in high it's probably going to be flagged.

And what I'm saying is that this is not justification for getting a call wrong.

The call aganst the Chiefs was bullshit.

The call against the Cowboys was bullshit.

We either need officials that can fucking see, or these type of momentum changing calls need to be subject to review.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

so far (after four games), is there any team that really stands out for you in the AFC East? -

The Bills. They are fucking awful.

[Pioli Zombie]

Did he just say the Jets have a hard-on?
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[Hootie]

Ricky Williams would be our best player LMAO

[Easy 6]

The Fins can truly pound the rock.

[Mecca]

And what I'm saying is that this is not justification for getting a call wrong.

The call aganst the Chiefs was bullshit.

The call against the Cowboys was bullshit.

We either need officials that can fucking see, or these type of momentum changing calls need to be subject to review.

I actually think the league wants them to be penalties, I think they want everyone to stop going high because they're tired of all the head injury pub.

[Simply Red]

I'm sure this has already been addressed, but; Rick Williams > LJ

[Hootie]

I'm sure this has already been addressed, but; Rick Williams > LJ

Ricky Williams > LT

[Dartgod]

I actually think the league wants them to be penalties, I think they want everyone to stop going high because they're tired of all the head injury pub.
Except putting a shoulder into a chest doesn't normally cause head injuries.

[dirk digler]

TD Fish

[Easy 6]

Henne! I'm Home!

[Simply Red]

Inhale/exhale, just got an ounce in the mail.

[LaChapelle]

5/21/77 Someone forget to tell Ricky he's over 30.

[Mecca]

In funny news my fantasy team is 5-0 cause I started Austin Collie yesterday.

[Simply Red]

Side note: The Rockies are out of it. *snicker*