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'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Mine

QB:C-. Inaccurate, made poor decisions, but also plagued by drops. No huge INTs, but multiple mental errors and poor throws killed more than one drive
OL: C. Too much pressure in the passing game, but did well in the run game
RB: B-. Hit the holes well, but didn't do a good job of taking advantage of hitting the second level.
WR: C. Too many drops. Bowe was the only one who did anything today. Everyone else is an F
DL: C+ Decent job against the run, save for the evisceration by Portis
LB: D+. One pressure by Vrabel, and two sacks between he and Hali. DJ had one nice stop. Otherwise, nothing.
DB: B+. John McGraw gets an A-. Brown gets a D. Corners played really well
K: A+
P: C. Multiple poor kicks
KR/PR: B for Charles, F for Wade. Awful, awful game by Bobby Wade
Coaching: D+. Poor playcalling on 3rd down, and bizarre decisions on when to go for it vs. when to punt. Almost cost us.

KC kid
10-18-2009, 05:43 PM
QB:
OL: Horrible. . . like always
RB: Horrible . . . LJ is done. Need Charles to get more carries.
WR: Average. Bowe seems to have alligator arms now.
DL: Good. Dorsey is coming on. Got some pressure.
LB: Invisible
DB: Average - Some long plays, but the Corners seems to break up some passes
K: MVP
P: Good
KR/PR: Kick returns were good. Punt returns were not. Chiefs cover kicks well
Coaching: Haley needs an OC.

OL: Horrible. . . like always
RB: Horrible . . . LJ is done. Need Charles to get more carries.
WR: Average. Bowe seems to have alligator arms now.
DL: Good. Dorsey is coming on. Got some pressure.
LB: Invisible
DB: Average - Some long plays, but the Corners seems to break up some passes
K: MVP
P: Good
KR/PR: Kick returns were good. Punt returns were not. Chiefs cover kicks well
Coaching: Haley needs an OC.[/

RippedmyFlesh
10-18-2009, 05:49 PM
QB: C- 3-4 bad passes but took care of ball which prevented a D
OL: D+ Couple of holes for LJ but 5 sacks keeps it from a C
RB: B LJ ran hard
WR: B- Bowe moved the chains but a couple slipped through his hands
DL: B+ Outside of the big play run defense was good.
LB: B Got pressure and Hali safety seals it
DB: B+ Outside of a couple of cooley plays over the middle good pass D
K: A+ The MVP
P: B Usual good job
KR/PR: C+ Morgan prevents disaster
Coaching:B Should have gone for TD on last drive to put game away.

petegz28
10-18-2009, 05:52 PM
QB: B-
OL: D
RB: C
WR: B-
DL: C+
LB: C+
DB: B
K: A+
KR\PR: B
Coaching: C+

Dayze
10-18-2009, 05:53 PM
QB: C +
OL: C-
RB: B
WR: C (aside from Bowe....didn't seem like anyone could get open)
DL: B+
LB: B
DB:B
K: A (can't argue with production)
P: B
KR/PR: C (Wade leaves a lot to be desired)
Coaching: C+
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan
10-18-2009, 05:56 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if you guys watched the same game I sat through.

OL opened holes for Johnson on the left side and gave Cassel the most time he's had this season. He actually dropped back 7 steps and didn't have people in his face most of the time. A lot of the sacks were coverage sacks.

Johnson was the most consistent he's been in a bit. Charles is the one who showed very little in his few chances.

DL and LB kept pressure on Campbell/Odd Todd and Hali had several pressures, sacks and the safety. The LB's were hardly invisible.

No, this team is not perfect, but this was a better and more consistent effort than I've seen this season.

Rain Man
10-18-2009, 06:04 PM
Before looking at others' grades, and without looking at stats, I would go with....

QB: B. Got penalized by some dropped passes, generally mistake free other than taking some sacks. No big plays, though.
OL: D+. We got some running movement, and I don't criticize them for getting owned by Haynesworth. We still took a lot of hits in the backfield.
RB: B-. LJ ran strong today. I didn't see him pass blocking very well, though.
WR: D. Dropped some easy passes today.
DL: B+. Generally seemed to hold the line and get some push. However, apparently three of the Redskins' linemen were backups or out of position. Knocked down some passes. Dorsey had a good game even if it doesn't show up in the stats.
LB: C-. Got a couple of sacks, but still not getting the pressure they should. I would've rated them lower if we'd given up more points. Demorrio had several plays today.
DB: A. I saw one bad angle by Brown, but for the most part this was a group of Musketeers today. McGraw made plays, Carr and Flowers covered well, and Leggett made the good special teams play (though Copper really made it).
K: A++++++. Succop is a bronzed god residing on the top of Mt. Olympus, throwing thunderbolts down at the mortal kickers.
P: A. I don't really know how Colquitt did, but I generally assume an A unless I see something otherwise.
KR/PR:
Coaching: B. Only two things I would overtly disagree with, and that's less than I had in a series with Herm. I'm growing to loathe those delayed draws for reasons I've mentioned many times. Also, I have to ask others: when we were up by three and had fourth down at their five with 40 seconds left, would you have kicked the field goal? I was surprised, because it gave Washington two chances for fluke plays: a blocked field goal and a kickoff return. I would've given LJ the ball on a wide run and either scored or had them pinned inside the five with 30 seconds left. Obviously, Haley's call worked out fine, but I wouldn't have kicked the field goal.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 07:36 PM
Interesting to note the line played better without Albert??

KcMizzou
10-18-2009, 07:37 PM
Interesting to note the line played better without Albert??You think? I don't.

ChiefsCountry
10-18-2009, 07:43 PM
I told you Steve Hoffman was a hell of a kicking coach when we hired him.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5501893&postcount=135

Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 07:43 PM
You think? I don't.

Maybe a little better....not a whole lot. But i dont think Albert is all that valuable to be honest.

bevischief
10-18-2009, 07:45 PM
They won who cares?

Yes it was ugly...

milkman
10-18-2009, 07:46 PM
Maybe a little better....not a whole lot. But i dont think Albert is all that valuable to be honest.

As long as Albert is struggling, he isn't that valuable.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 07:47 PM
As long as Albert is struggling, he isn't that valuable.

Exactly

btlook1
10-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Interesting to note the line played better without Albert??

Didn't Cassel get sacked 3 times from the left side?

Mecca
10-18-2009, 07:49 PM
It's hard to grade since today both offenses were completely inept.

It's a sad statement to see an entire game without a TD scored.

unlurking
10-18-2009, 07:49 PM
Wow. I can't believe anyone would rate the OL performance above an F today?!?!

Also, you can't ignore how our TE fucked up his blocking assignments.

DeezNutz
10-18-2009, 07:51 PM
I saw two terrible teams. Grades? Anything above a C for most facets of the game would be a joke. Notable exceptions for the Chiefs: K and CBs.

Basically, today's game was the equivalent of watching old people fuck. Not pretty in any capacity.

bevischief
10-18-2009, 07:51 PM
It's hard to grade since today both offenses were completely inept.

It's a sad statement to see an entire game without a TD scored.

That was my thought but a win is a win...

Dave Lane
10-18-2009, 07:52 PM
would you have kicked the field goal? I was surprised, because it gave Washington two chances for fluke plays: a blocked field goal and a kickoff return. I would've given LJ the ball on a wide run and either scored or had them pinned inside the five with 30 seconds left. Obviously, Haley's call worked out fine, but I wouldn't have kicked the field goal.

Yes because 90% chance it is successful and then it takes a TD to beat you. Even if they are pinned deep they only need one or two plays to try a long FG to tie the game.

Definitely the right call.

boogblaster
10-18-2009, 07:53 PM
Offence c- ... littl' better at the run ... passing only 6 or 7 compete ...
Defence b- ... looked good against the run ... pass coverage littl' better ...

Kicking game A ... the kid is for real ... coverage was decent too ...
Coaching c- ... too many 1st down runs to the same hole ...
Overall C ... we played decent against a poor team today ... only thing they have is a decent D ....

Mecca
10-18-2009, 07:54 PM
Today's game was so bad the most offense we saw was the 5 minutes they switched us to the Ravens/Vikings game and Ray Rice ran it in.

OnTheWarpath58
10-18-2009, 07:55 PM
Today's game was so bad the most offense we saw was the 5 minutes they switched us to the Ravens/Vikings game and Ray Rice ran it in.

LMAO

DeezNutz
10-18-2009, 07:55 PM
I believe it was Gannon who said, "Burn the tapes."

That should be a sufficient grade.

Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 08:03 PM
Todays game reminded me of any random Marty game Circa 91 or 92.

carlos3652
10-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Today's game was so bad the most offense we saw was the 5 minutes they switched us to the Ravens/Vikings game and Ray Rice ran it in.

Have you yet stated a positive post today about winning? Every post iv read so far has still Benny negative after you said we didn't have a chance to win this game... Honest question....
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Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Have you yet stated a positive post today about winning? Every post iv read so far has still Benny negative after you said we didn't have a chance to win this game... Honest question....
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Im starting to get the feeling that Mecca would critsize a 15-1 season.

"Well, we should have went 16-0"

"Our QB only threw for 40 TD's this year.....hes no Dan Marino or Drew Brees"

Yadda, yadda yadda.....

Mecca
10-18-2009, 08:20 PM
If you think that was an awesome performance by all means be my guest.

It was 2 inept teams battling to see who could be worse than the other.

Mecca
10-18-2009, 08:21 PM
Have you yet stated a positive post today about winning? Every post iv read so far has still Benny negative after you said we didn't have a chance to win this game... Honest question....
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It was a comment about how fucking boring it was, watching 2 inept teams struggle and seeing no TD's for an entire game is awful.

carlos3652
10-18-2009, 08:22 PM
Mecca to clarify, not trying to be a dick, just that we won against a mediocre team that no one thought we could beat... Even u stated that u would give them a better chance at home but not on the road... All I read from you today is how bad our offense was..
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Pasta Giant Meatball
10-18-2009, 08:22 PM
Wow. I can't believe anyone would rate the OL performance above an F today?!?!

Also, you can't ignore how our TE ****ed up his blocking assignments.

I have been disgusted with Sean Ryan's blocking all season and today it was a F'n joke as well.

Coach
10-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Ryan is a terrible blocker. Why Haley still continues to think he is a blocker, is unknown to me.

But Ryan is a good receiving TE.

carlos3652
10-18-2009, 08:24 PM
Cool, thanks for the clarification - I guess I'm happy we won, regardless of how we play. Sine we don't win very often even vs horrible teams...
Posted via Mobile Device 3 wins in the last 31 makes you celebrate a win.... Regardless of play

Deberg_1990
10-18-2009, 08:24 PM
If you think that was an awesome performance by all means be my guest.

It was 2 inept teams battling to see who could be worse than the other.

Nobody is under any illusions the Chiefs are headed to the playoffs anytime soon.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-18-2009, 08:27 PM
It was a comment about how ****ing boring it was, watching 2 inept teams struggle and seeing no TD's for an entire game is awful.

They weren't supposed to win that game, especially on the road. Many had chalked it up as an L. The Redskins came into the game with a top 5 defense, so it is not like they have a bunch of scrubs on D.

tk13
10-18-2009, 08:28 PM
Well, despite all that, we won. That's something. If we'd blown this one late like we have about 3 other games, people would be beside themselves with how we could lose to the Redskins like that.

chiefzilla1501
10-18-2009, 08:32 PM
I'm beginning to wonder if you guys watched the same game I sat through.

OL opened holes for Johnson on the left side and gave Cassel the most time he's had this season. He actually dropped back 7 steps and didn't have people in his face most of the time. A lot of the sacks were coverage sacks.

Johnson was the most consistent he's been in a bit. Charles is the one who showed very little in his few chances.

DL and LB kept pressure on Campbell/Odd Todd and Hali had several pressures, sacks and the safety. The LB's were hardly invisible.

No, this team is not perfect, but this was a better and more consistent effort than I've seen this season.

The problem with the o-line still remains consistency. Having time to throw the ball isn't a luxury if the QB is continuously scared that 3 seconds into the snap, there's going to be rushers in his face. Even when there isn't pressure, the QB's always thinking about it.

Because to me, Haynesworth was owning the Chiefs' offensive line all game. And nothing is worse for a QB than a DT who is always getting up in his face, even if the protection isn't perfect. The protection was better, but that's like bragging about smelling mostly like shit instead of completely like shit.

Mecca
10-18-2009, 08:32 PM
They weren't supposed to win that game, especially on the road. Many had chalked it up as an L. The Redskins came into the game with a top 5 defense, so it is not like they have a bunch of scrubs on D.

The Redskins have the worst offense I have ever seen, their offense should be laughed at for how bad it is. And they don't really lack players either.

Pasta Giant Meatball
10-18-2009, 08:34 PM
The Redskins have the worst offense I have ever seen, their offense should be laughed at for how bad it is. And they don't really lack players either.

Thier O is horrible and they really shouldn't be. I'll agree with that. Campbell missed Moss on what should have been an easy TD early in the game.

The Bad Guy
10-18-2009, 08:38 PM
Can't some of you just be happy with a win?

We've lost 28 out of our last 30, and some of you continue to hang your head and are legitimately upset we won or something.

Sorry, I've seen 3 wins over the last 2 seasons and I will enjoy this - regardless how ugly it was.

WilliamTheIrish
10-18-2009, 08:38 PM
OL - F in pass protection, C in rushing offense.

Offense in general - D

Offensive coaching - D

Larry - C

Defense Line- Gave up a huge play to Portis BUT held it to three. B
Pass Defense- PLayed well. B

PK-A
P-B

KR/PR - D

The Bad Guy
10-18-2009, 08:38 PM
The Redskins have the worst offense I have ever seen, their offense should be laughed at for how bad it is. And they don't really lack players either.

Did you get any enjoyment out of this victory?

Coach
10-18-2009, 08:39 PM
Did you get any enjoyment out of this victory?

Actually, he did. He did say it positively that the Chiefs defense didn't let the Redskin offense clown them. That's progress.


Thought I never hear anything positive in my entire life from Mecca. I was wrong.

KcMizzou
10-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Did you get any enjoyment out of this victory?You don't really have to ask, do you?

Coach
10-18-2009, 08:40 PM
Nobody is under any illusions the Chiefs are headed to the playoffs anytime soon.

SUPER BO....


Awww, shit. We ain't going anywhere.

Mecca
10-18-2009, 08:41 PM
I was glad they found a way to win, I didn't get to much enjoyment out of the process of the game though.

The Bad Guy
10-18-2009, 08:43 PM
I was glad they found a way to win, I didn't get to much enjoyment out of the process of the game though.

That's like a homeless man being pissed off about the way he went to get food when he hasn't had any in a month.

unlurking
10-18-2009, 08:45 PM
I was glad they found a way to win, I didn't get to much enjoyment out of the process of the game though.
So I'm guessing you're not the type that's out overturning cars after a championship victory? Must not be a true fan.

unlurking
10-18-2009, 08:46 PM
That's like a homeless man being pissed off about the way he went to get food when he hasn't had any in a month.
More like a guy being pissed he's eating a burger cuz his wife can't cook for shit.

Mecca
10-18-2009, 08:49 PM
LOL, well I really like football but I also would like some entertainment out of the game.

Today's game was just bad offense everywhere, it's a good win for a team that couldn't win but as a fan it was a snoozer.

unlurking
10-18-2009, 09:00 PM
I don't know, felt kind of like a horror flick to me, kept me on the edge of my seat. Watching Cassel is like watching every bimbo being chased with a knife, chain saw, machette, etc.

Replace:
"Why do the dumb bitches always go into the woods alone?"

With:
"Why do the dumb bitches always call a draw?"

Maybe after a few more games I'll be bored with it, but hey, it's like the good guys finally won in Saw VI!

JASONSAUTO
10-18-2009, 09:10 PM
Can't some of you just be happy with a win?

We've lost 28 out of our last 30, and some of you continue to hang your head and are legitimately upset we won or something.

Sorry, I've seen 3 wins over the last 2 seasons and I will enjoy this - regardless how ugly it was.

this. why cant we just enjoy a w?
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DeezNutz
10-18-2009, 09:26 PM
Can't some of you just be happy with a win?

We've lost 28 out of our last 30, and some of you continue to hang your head and are legitimately upset we won or something.

Sorry, I've seen 3 wins over the last 2 seasons and I will enjoy this - regardless how ugly it was.

At this point in time, the situation has become so desperate that any win is indeed fucking huge. And I mean huge.

Perhaps this can establish some type of momentum and confidence.

TEX
10-18-2009, 09:28 PM
Can't some of you just be happy with a win?

We've lost 28 out of our last 30, and some of you continue to hang your head and are legitimately upset we won or something.

Sorry, I've seen 3 wins over the last 2 seasons and I will enjoy this - regardless how ugly it was.

This. :clap:

Coogs
10-18-2009, 09:30 PM
At this point in time, the situation has become so desperate that any win is indeed fucking huge. And I mean huge.

Perhaps this can establish some type of momentum and confidence.

This. Plus we need wins to entice players who are FA to want to come here. They need to see a team moving in the right direction to not only bring in players, but keep what few building blocks we have at this time

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 09:31 PM
Part of the point of grading the team is figuring out areas of weakness so that they can be addressed, so the team will win more.

Fuck's sake :shake:

Dave Lane
10-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Does Haley or the Chiefs staff actually read and take into account your grades? If not you are just some monkey flinging flaming poo on the internet.

I think we need victory Monday which is when we win a game for one day every negative post must include something positive too :)