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bowener
10-18-2009, 09:30 PM
Maybe we can all get together and post our bullshit rumors in here until 4pm on Tuesday gets here.... just a thought.

Jags apparently trying to trade Groves, could be use him as an OLB? If memory serves me correctly he is pretty quick. We could also use WR help.

Another PFT (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/18/groves-is-available-sims-walker-could-be/) rumor.
Two Jacksonville players who got in hot water last week could possibly be former Jacksonville players by 4:00 p.m. ET Tuesday.

For starters, it's common knowledge in league circles that the Jacksonville Jaguars are shopping Quentin Groves.

Groves, a second-round pick in 2008 as a defensive end, has been moved this year to linebacker. On the team's current depth chart, Groves is listed as a third-stringer.

Groves was involved in an automobile accident (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/12/sims-walker-violated-the-team-itinerary-in-seattle/) on the way to the airport last week for the team flight to Seattle. He missed the plane because of it.

There also are rumblings that receiver Mike Sims-Walker could be available, too.

Sims-Walker is regarded as an up-and-comer. A third-round pick in 2007, he flashed promise in 2008 with a 107-yard game. But injuries then limited his effectiveness the rest of the season.

This year, he has generated 278 receiving yards and three scores in three starts. But his surprise deactivation last week might have landed him in a doghouse from which he'll have a hard time emerging.

The Ravens and Dolphins are widely believed to be looking for help at receiver. It's unknown whether either team has spoken to the Jags about Sims-Walker.

It could be that the Jags are willing to move him if someone will pay a premium based on his perceived potential. It's also possible that the Jaguars are trying to ensure that Sims-Walker has gotten the message regarding his "violation of team itinerary," which reportedly was fancy talk for hooking up (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/14/sim-walker-missed-bed-check/).

Coach
10-18-2009, 09:30 PM
Wow...

Depending what Jax is asking for Groves, maybe.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 09:32 PM
Groves is a talented player, and a great fit for the 3-4.

OnTheWarpath58
10-18-2009, 09:33 PM
Why the fuck would Jacksonville trade MSW?

Coach
10-18-2009, 09:34 PM
Why the fuck would Jacksonville trade MSW?

Who knows, but if Jax is willing trade Groves, what do you think they'll be asking for in return?

Groves was a late 1st rounder, was he? Or early 2nd?

OnTheWarpath58
10-18-2009, 09:37 PM
Who knows, but if Jax is willing trade Groves, what do you think they'll be asking for in return?

Groves was a late 1st rounder, was he? Or early 2nd?

2nd rounder.

And honestly, I don't know what it would take.

And Hamas or Mecca would be better to appropriate a value - he's a player I didn't focus much on in college, and have rarely watched him play in the pros.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 09:37 PM
The Jags took Groves and Harvey in the same draft and neither has done anything.

I'd offer one of our fifths for Groves and see if they bite. I don't think it's enough, but it's worth a shot, IMO.

L.A. Chieffan
10-18-2009, 09:38 PM
maybe we can trade the rams for their #1 pick guaranteeing our spot for tebow?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 09:40 PM
2nd rounder.

And honestly, I don't know what it would take.

And Hamas or Mecca would be better to appropriate a value - he's a player I didn't focus much on in college, and have rarely watched him play in the pros.

Great college player. Terror coming off the edge. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves, but he's got great speed and an initial burst. He's ideally either a RDE in a Tampa 2, or an OLB. Flips his hips well, and he's a smart guy.

I'd love to have him, TBH.

Coach
10-18-2009, 09:40 PM
The Jags took Groves and Harvey in the same draft and neither has done anything.

I'd offer one of our fifths for Groves and see if they bite. I don't think it's enough, but it's worth a shot, IMO.

Maybe a 4th? Swamp a 4th? Just throwing ideas out here. Jax is a 4-3, defense right?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-18-2009, 09:43 PM
Maybe a 4th? Swamp a 4th? Just throwing ideas out here. Jax is a 4-3, defense right?

Give them our earliest 5, or offer a 4 for Groves and their 6th.

If they scoff, offer the 4th for Groves. Go no higher, IMO.

OnTheWarpath58
10-18-2009, 09:44 PM
Give them our earliest 5, or offer a 4 for Groves and their 6th.

If they scoff, offer the 4th for Groves. Go no higher, IMO.

Does he fit the "Right 53" criteria?

My guess is that if Jacksonville is trying to deal him, no.

Coach
10-18-2009, 09:44 PM
Give them our earliest 5, or offer a 4 for Groves and their 6th.

If they scoff, offer the 4th for Groves. Go no higher, IMO.

That's what I think as well. I think Groves would make a great rush backer.

CaliforniaChief
10-18-2009, 09:48 PM
Give them our earliest 5, or offer a 4 for Groves and their 6th.

If they scoff, offer the 4th for Groves. Go no higher, IMO.

What about DJ? Would this be one of those "change of scenery" things? I realize we would have to throw something in on top of DJ.

ChiefsCountry
10-18-2009, 09:49 PM
Wrong Florida team, we can't trade for him.

OnTheWarpath58
10-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Wrong Florida team, we can't trade for him.

LMAO

58kcfan89
10-18-2009, 10:07 PM
I know the Jags probably wouldn't just give away Sims-Walker, but I'd LOVE to see him opposite Bowe. It'd be nice to see the Jags pull a Browns & give him up for a 4th or 5th or something, though....

As for Groves, I'd definitely offer a low pick for him. Definitely a fast pass rusher that we could use coming off of the edge, especially if our DEs can continue to eat up blocks. I wouldn't give up much for him and (like Sims-Walker) I don't expect Jacksonville to sell low on him, but he could definitely give us a boost off the edge for the right price.