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Fat Elvis
10-19-2009, 12:51 PM
Autopsies expected....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ath_free_press_marathon_death

DETROIT Autopsies are expected after three half-marathoners died during the Detroit marathon.

Officials say 36-year-old Daniel Langdon collapsed at about 9:02 a.m. Sunday between the 11- and 12-mile markers and 65-year-old Rick Brown collapsed at 9:17 a.m., near where Langdon went down.

Officials say 26-year-old Jon Fenlon collapsed at about 9:18 a.m., just after finishing the 13.1-mile half-marathon in 1:53:37.

Autopsies are planned for Monday.

Rich Harshbarger, vice president of consumer marketing for the Detroit Media Partnership, told the Detroit Free Press emergency personnel were on the scene within seconds.

More than 19,000 people were registered to participate in the 32nd Detroit Free Press/Flagstar Marathon.




Since this was in Detroit, I bet the coroner finds that the runners were sweating bullets when they died.

SNR
10-19-2009, 12:59 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't fucking get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.

MIAdragon
10-19-2009, 01:02 PM
Id never take any liquid from someone I didn't know

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 01:07 PM
Dang. The dead guy beat me.

I did, however, beat my personal best yesterday in the half-marathon. I ran the Denver half-marathon in 2:06:39, blasting my old record by 7 minutes and 4 seconds. SNR, I'll pm you with the details.

Sure-Oz
10-19-2009, 01:08 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't ****ing get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.

I love running, but not 26 miles, maybe 3

Gadzooks
10-19-2009, 01:12 PM
I don't run unless I'm being chased by something bigger than me.

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 01:15 PM
I did the KC marathon on saturday in 3:50:05 and I didnt die. I drank liquid from strangers all day... SNR, if you are interested, I can give you my training schedule... well after I get back from my afternoon 10k that is...

Demonpenz
10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
i like walking ALOT

Mr_Tomahawk
10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't ****ing get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.


I am running the Marin Corps Marathon on Sunday with my 52 year old dad.

I do it because I can. I don't let it interfere with my job or family time. Many people don't know I run...

Some people enjoy bench pressing enough weight that they require a spotter so they don't drop the bar on their throat...a la Stafon Johnson from USC.

People get injured from lifting weights....people get injured from running, and some die as seen in this article. And a lot of people die and injure themselves from just being fat.

I run marathons because I can. Not because I want to work-out my cardiovascular system. I run to push my body to see if I can shave some minutes off of my last run.

...like the bench presser pushes himself to see if he can do 1 more rep or add a little more weight.


...and like the fat person seeing if they can fit one more slice of pizza in their stomach. :D

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 01:22 PM
I am running the Marin Corps Marathon on Sunday with my 52 year old dad.

I do it because I can. I don't let it interfere with my job or family time. Many people don't know I run...

Some people enjoy bench pressing enough weight that they require a spotter so they don't drop the bar on their throat...a la Stafon Johnson from USC.

People get injured from lifting weights....people get injured from running, and some die as seen in this article. And a lot of people die and injure themselves from just being fat.

I run marathons because I can. Not because I want to work-out my cardiovascular system. I run to push my body to see if I can shave some minutes off of my last run.

...like the bench presser pushes himself to see if he can do 1 more rep or add a little more weight.


...and like the fat person seeing if they can fit one more slice of pizza in their stomach. :D

Exactly, it is about taking on the challenge. Pushing yourself to your limits and beyond. The sense of accomplishment when you cross the finish is pretty excellent. I beat my previous best (set in April) by almost 9 minutes. In April I would have thought that it was impossible to meet, much less exceed, that time. I am not saying it is for everyone, but don't knock it just because it is not for you.

JD10367
10-19-2009, 01:23 PM
Breathing in the Detroit air, I'm surprised it was only 3.

Demonpenz
10-19-2009, 01:27 PM
i won't knock most any activities. BUT HOLY SHIT DOES IT ANNOY ME WHEN I GET BEHIND THOSE LANCE ARMSTRONG WANNA BE FUCKS HERE IN LENEXA. TURN THE KEY PUT GAS IN IT AND DON'T WEAR SPANDEX

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 01:30 PM
i won't knock most any activities. BUT HOLY SHIT DOES IT ANNOY ME WHEN I GET BEHIND THOSE LANCE ARMSTRONG WANNA BE FUCKS HERE IN LENEXA. TURN THE KEY PUT GAS IN IT AND DON'T WEAR SPANDEX

ROFL

blaise
10-19-2009, 01:34 PM
I don't run unless I'm being chased by something bigger than me.

Seeing that is was Detroit, maybe they were three crackheads that thought everyone was running from the police.

blaise
10-19-2009, 01:35 PM
Someone put a 13.1 sticker on the back of the one guy's casket.

donkhater
10-19-2009, 02:10 PM
Dang. The dead guy beat me.

I did, however, beat my personal best yesterday in the half-marathon. I ran the Denver half-marathon in 2:06:39, blasting my old record by 7 minutes and 4 seconds. SNR, I'll pm you with the details.

He beat me to. Ran my first here in Indianapolis. Came in at 2:02:18.:) Thought I could break 2 hrs at the 9-mile mark, then the hills got me.

Coach
10-19-2009, 02:16 PM
I don't run unless I'm being chased by something bigger than me.

Or being chased by the cops.

Chazno
10-19-2009, 03:47 PM
I ran the Chicago marathon Back in '04. Someone died during that one also. Apparently if you consume nothing but water for 4 hours while running 26.2 miles you can die from a lack of sodium. I had never heard of that before then.

TEX
10-19-2009, 03:50 PM
I try and run 3 times a week. I've been doing it for years. I never have run a marathon and have no desire to do so. But, to each his own...

Coach
10-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Well, I can see why they're suspicious about this. I mean, it was held in Detroit, after all.

RJ
10-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Exactly, it is about taking on the challenge. Pushing yourself to your limits and beyond. The sense of accomplishment when you cross the finish is pretty excellent. I beat my previous best (set in April) by almost 9 minutes. In April I would have thought that it was impossible to meet, much less exceed, that time. I am not saying it is for everyone, but don't knock it just because it is not for you.


I'd say those three guys chose "beyond".

JD10367
10-19-2009, 03:56 PM
i won't knock most any activities. BUT HOLY SHIT DOES IT ANNOY ME WHEN I GET BEHIND THOSE LANCE ARMSTRONG WANNA BE ****S HERE IN LENEXA. TURN THE KEY PUT GAS IN IT AND DON'T WEAR SPANDEX

And they're wearing the professional helmet that makes them look like Spermhead meets Ridley Scott's "Alien". Dudes, you're out biking on a backcountry f**king road, you're not going downhill towards Paris wearing the yellow jacket...

Demonpenz
10-19-2009, 03:58 PM
the ones i see don't wear those crazy helmets just the standard it's WHERE they ride. I don't get upset too much because hey atleast they are doing something other than sitting at walmart shoplifting pinwheels, but they are always in this road that has two lanes and the are riding for pleasure people swerve around them into on coming traffic, then i get pissed. I honestly just come up beside them and honk a fucking air horn that my dad bought for his boat. Sometimes they fall, but fuck them.

JD10367
10-19-2009, 04:01 PM
the ones i see don't wear those crazy helmets just the standard it's WHERE they ride. I don't get upset too much because hey atleast they are doing something other than sitting at walmart shoplifting pinwheels, but they are always in this road that has two lanes and the are riding for pleasure people swerve around them into on coming traffic, then i get pissed. I honestly just come up beside them and honk a ****ing air horn that my dad bought for his boat. Sometimes they fall, but **** them.

LMAO

blaise
10-19-2009, 04:06 PM
the ones i see don't wear those crazy helmets just the standard it's WHERE they ride. I don't get upset too much because hey atleast they are doing something other than sitting at walmart shoplifting pinwheels, but they are always in this road that has two lanes and the are riding for pleasure people swerve around them into on coming traffic, then i get pissed. I honestly just come up beside them and honk a ****ing air horn that my dad bought for his boat. Sometimes they fall, but **** them.

A few weeks ago I was trying to turn left at an intersection and a group of these spandex bike riders came toward me, and so I let them go past before I turned left. The last guy was (I thought) yelling something- he was mouthing the words like he was shouting. I thought he was yelling at me, so I got mad and yelled something like, "I let you go past asshole!"
Then, after I turned left, I realized he was trying to say "Thank you" so I would have been able to read his lips.

rageeumr
10-19-2009, 04:16 PM
I'll take my chances of dropping dead in a race versus dropping dead of a coronary living my old lifestyle.

Oh, and to support Penz, I hate drivers when I'm running, I hate runners when I'm driving, but I pretty much always hate bicyclists. I ride my bike to work on rare occasion, but I map out a route WITH BIKE LANES. Not doing so makes you a selfish a-hole IMO.

Crush
10-19-2009, 04:26 PM
I don't run unless I'm being chased by something bigger than me.


This

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I'll take my chances of dropping dead in a race versus dropping dead of a coronary living my old lifestyle.

Oh, and to support Penz, I hate drivers when I'm running, I hate runners when I'm driving, but I pretty much always hate bicyclists. I ride my bike to work on rare occasion, but I map out a route WITH BIKE LANES. Not doing so makes you a selfish a-hole IMO.

This is so true that it is scary. ROFL

Demonpenz
10-19-2009, 04:49 PM
i walk often but and run until i am out of breathe which is like two blocks, i hate it (and you know it's going to happen. when people are coming up to a busy street and their bumper pretty much goes into traffic as they are looking the other way, instead of staying behind the white line.

Infidel Goat
10-19-2009, 06:17 PM
I think what is suspicious is that all three men died shortly after the 11 mile marker (assuming that the half marathon finishes at the 13.1 marker of the marathon course).

I am suspicious that they will find something in their system that was given to them by a spectator.

That being said, I'd still take water or gatorade at the legitimate aid stations if I were in a race...

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 06:49 PM
Dang. The dead guy beat me.

I did, however, beat my personal best yesterday in the half-marathon. I ran the Denver half-marathon in 2:06:39, blasting my old record by 7 minutes and 4 seconds. SNR, I'll pm you with the details.

Congrats to the other 1/2 and full runners yesterday. I did the KC 1/2 as well and am proud to say I beat the guy even though I fell off the training wagon the last month. Pike's Peak 1/2 is next! I will be sure to send you my training program when I get started SNR! :D

Valiant
10-19-2009, 07:01 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't ****ing get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.


I am not into running for fun, but you are hella wrong on getting ladies with it.. There are tons of hot women who run and want partners or hookup at the afterparties..

As for the rest, pretty much spot on.. I can sprint, no shin splints.. If I fucking jog one of those things shins are bothering me half a mile in..

Valiant
10-19-2009, 07:06 PM
I think what is suspicious is that all three men died shortly after the 11 mile marker (assuming that the half marathon finishes at the 13.1 marker of the marathon course).

I am suspicious that they will find something in their system that was given to them by a spectator.

That being said, I'd still take water or gatorade at the legitimate aid stations if I were in a race...

BBC prank show was probably in town and had a grim reaper out there scaring people..

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 08:01 PM
Congrats to the other 1/2 and full runners yesterday. I did the KC 1/2 as well and am proud to say I beat the guy even though I fell off the training wagon the last month. Pike's Peak 1/2 is next! I will be sure to send you my training program when I get started SNR! :D

Oh, hey. I'm pondering that one as well. Do you know when signups are? I just was talking to a serious runner today and he said that it generally fills up within a day of opening up registration.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 08:06 PM
Oh, hey. I'm pondering that one as well. Do you know when signups are? I just was talking to a serious runner today and he said that it generally fills up within a day of opening up registration.

March. From your time you'd be in Ascent Wave 2, which fills up in a few weeks.

General Registration:
Ascent Wave 1 - Full - Filled in ~4.5 months, 8/3 vs 7/25 in 2008
Ascent Wave 2 - Full - Filled in 3 weeks, 2 days vs 1 month, 3 weeks, 5 days in 2008
Marathon Field 1 - Full - Filled in 1 day, 10 hours vs 26 mins in 2008
Marathon Field 2 - Full - Filled in 5 days vs 50 mins in 2008

Bwana
10-19-2009, 08:10 PM
Breathing in the Detroit air, I'm surprised it was only 3.

That was my first thought as well. ROFL What a shit hole of a town.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 08:15 PM
March. From your time you'd be in Ascent Wave 2, which fills up in a few weeks.

General Registration:
Ascent Wave 1 - Full - Filled in ~4.5 months, 8/3 vs 7/25 in 2008
Ascent Wave 2 - Full - Filled in 3 weeks, 2 days vs 1 month, 3 weeks, 5 days in 2008
Marathon Field 1 - Full - Filled in 1 day, 10 hours vs 26 mins in 2008
Marathon Field 2 - Full - Filled in 5 days vs 50 mins in 2008

So it doesn't fill up immediately? My guy today ran it in 2009 and he said it fills up in hours.

Let me know if you decide to do it. It's definitely on my list next year. I have a hard time imagining a more challenging half.

alanm
10-19-2009, 08:23 PM
Dang. The dead guy beat me.

I did, however, beat my personal best yesterday in the half-marathon. I ran the Denver half-marathon in 2:06:39, blasting my old record by 7 minutes and 4 seconds. SNR, I'll pm you with the details.That's pretty respectable Kevin. :thumb::thumb:

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 08:30 PM
That's pretty respectable Kevin. :thumb::thumb:

Thanks! I'm no ziggysocki or stlchiefs, but I do my best.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 08:37 PM
So it doesn't fill up immediately? My guy today ran it in 2009 and he said it fills up in hours.

Let me know if you decide to do it. It's definitely on my list next year. I have a hard time imagining a more challenging half.

Oh I'm doing it for sure, it's the only reason I signed up for the KC half because you need proof of a prior 1/2 or full marathon to "qualify". I put that in quotes because a 2:30 half qualifies you for Pike's Peak 1/2.

I think the full marathon fills up much quicker though as there are a lot less spots for that. There are also some psychos who do a double: 1/2 on Sat and Full on Sunday.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh I'm doing it for sure, it's the only reason I signed up for the KC half because you need proof of a prior 1/2 or full marathon to "qualify". I put that in quotes because a 2:30 half qualifies you for Pike's Peak 1/2.

I think the full marathon fills up much quicker though as there are a lot less spots for that. There are also some psychos who do a double: 1/2 on Sat and Full on Sunday.


Ah, okay. I'm definitely going to target the ascent for next year as long as I can keep running and getting into shape.

The guy I talked to today is really, really into running, and in fact just finished a 50-mile mountain race. Looking him up, it appears that he's in the 1:30 to 1:40 range on half-marathons and 3:15 or so in marathons. He did the Ascent in 3:15 and was in the top ten percent of male finishers.

I know a woman who did the ascent this year, too. She ran a flat half-marathon in 1:53 this summer in a race that we both ran, and her time in the Ascent was 4:49. She said it was not enjoyable.

I suspect that the ascent is as much about leg strength as it is endurance.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Ah, okay. I'm definitely going to target the ascent for next year as long as I can keep running and getting into shape.

The guy I talked to today is really, really into running, and in fact just finished a 50-mile mountain race. Looking him up, it appears that he's in the 1:30 to 1:40 range on half-marathons and 3:15 or so in marathons. He did the Ascent in 3:15 and was in the top ten percent of male finishers.

I know a woman who did the ascent this year, too. She ran a flat half-marathon in 1:53 this summer in a race that we both ran, and her time in the Ascent was 4:49. She said it was not enjoyable.

I suspect that the ascent is as much about leg strength as it is endurance.

Yeah, the Ascent is a 1/2 marathon in distance only. Funny thing is, my mom has done it a few times and said it's more of a climb than a run. You are rarely moving at a running pace, but constantly moving and heading up. I've been told the best thing to do is run stadium stairs or just hop on the stair climber and go.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 09:07 PM
It's scary to even think about it, which makes me want to do it more. Hopefully I'll see you there, even if it's only as a distant speck above me.

EyePod
10-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't ****ing get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.

Long distance running is the problem, not running. Sprinting is amazing for your body. lose fat and not muscle. That sounds good to me. If God were real, he wouldn't have let your mother create you. And you're lucky he's not.

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Wow. Pikes peak sounds amazingly hard. I want to try it. I can do a 1:50 half comfortably... and my best is just over 1:40. I am gonna have to look into this race.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Wow. Pikes peak sounds amazingly hard. I want to try it. I can do a 1:50 half comfortably... and my best is just over 1:40. I am gonna have to look into this race.


Maybe you can do it with me and stlchiefs this year.

This will take some psyching up. I was having trouble getting enough air at 12,600 in Breckenridge this year, and Pike's Peak tops out over 14,000 feet. It's not just the 13 miles of uphill, it's doing it on half oxygen.

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 09:48 PM
Oh I'm doing it for sure, it's the only reason I signed up for the KC half because you need proof of a prior 1/2 or full marathon to "qualify". I put that in quotes because a 2:30 half qualifies you for Pike's Peak 1/2.

I think the full marathon fills up much quicker though as there are a lot less spots for that. There are also some psychos who do a double: 1/2 on Sat and Full on Sunday.

Holy crap... that is amazingly sadomasochistic. After running the full in KC on saturday, I am still so sore that today at work I was referred to as all of the following; Robocop, Tinman, Bubba's Bitch, Gramps, and my 6 year old asked me "Need me to help you down the stairs pop?" I read about this guy that ran 7 marathons in 7 days on 7 different continents. Some people are just fucking sick.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 09:49 PM
Maybe you can do it with me and stlchiefs this year.

This will take some psyching up. I was having trouble getting enough air at 12,600 in Breckenridge this year, and Pike's Peak tops out over 14,000 feet. It's not just the 13 miles of uphill, it's doing it on half oxygen.

Hey at least you can acclimate yourself to the altitude a bit, the most I got is taking the tram to the top of the Arch!

88TG88
10-19-2009, 09:49 PM
i won't knock most any activities. BUT HOLY SHIT DOES IT ANNOY ME WHEN I GET BEHIND THOSE LANCE ARMSTRONG WANNA BE FUCKS HERE IN LENEXA. TURN THE KEY PUT GAS IN IT AND DON'T WEAR SPANDEX

You're just mad because my bike cost more than your Ford Tempo.

LiL stumppy
10-19-2009, 09:49 PM
Running is the dumbest form of exercise ever. I don't fucking get how people can love that shit so much. It's not like you see physical benefits in added muscle/more chicks. You also have to put up with shin splints.

If you want to keep your heart healthy, there are hundreds of different cardial exercises you can do than run 26.2 miles in the span of a few hours.

Sorry if any of you are runners, but there's nothing I hate more on this earth than someone I know who makes a big fat deal out of their running regiment.

"How about we just schedule the meeting before the day starts? We can do it at 7 AM. That should be plenty of time."

"Weeeeeeellllll... I'll JUST getting done with my morning 10 mile run at that time and I'll need to shower and stuff.... you know... can we push it back to 8?"

If God wanted us to run, he would have given us wheels for legs.

uhhh it burns more calories than walking, and people who are over weight need that

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 09:50 PM
Maybe you can do it with me and stlchiefs this year.

This will take some psyching up. I was having trouble getting enough air at 12,600 in Breckenridge this year, and Pike's Peak tops out over 14,000 feet. It's not just the 13 miles of uphill, it's doing it on half oxygen.

Honestly, at distances longer than 10k, lungs are not my problem. But I have never run anywhere with more than a 300-400 ft altitude change. When is that race? Nevermind found it... http://www.pikespeakmarathon.org/

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Honestly, at distances longer than 10k, lungs are not my problem. But I have never run anywhere with more than a 300-400 ft altitude change. When is that race? Got a link?

I think it's in August, but registration is in March. http://www.pikespeakmarathon.org/

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 09:56 PM
I think it's in August, but registration is in March. http://www.pikespeakmarathon.org/

I say we get as many planeteers as we can and run it as a team. Who are the other runners here?

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 09:59 PM
Honestly, at distances longer than 10k, lungs are not my problem. But I have never run anywhere with more than a 300-400 ft altitude change. When is that race? Got a link?

http://www.pikespeakmarathon.org/

Lungs will be a problem here. :)

I'm not as fast as you, so you'd probably have more of an issue with air since you'd need more of it (plus I have a 5,300 foot head start being in Denver). I ran one half-marathon at 9,000 feet this summer and didn't notice it at all, but it wasn't overly steep (800 feet up and back down). I ran another one that topped out at 11,800 and it was a notable problem, but as I mentioned in a past thread, it was mostly uphill (4,000 feet up and something like 1,000 back down). I ran another one that topped out at 12,600 and I had to stop five times to get air - not stop to walk, but actually stop. It was half uphill (3,000 feet up and then back down), but was pretty steep.

14,000+ has to be seriously hard.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 10:01 PM
I say we get as many planeteers as we can and run it as a team. Who are the other runners here?

I'd be up for it as long as y'all recognize that I'm the slowest guy on the team.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 10:01 PM
I say we get as many planeteers as we can and run it as a team. Who are the other runners here?

I think TinyEvil might run or maybe he's just a natural freak of nature. I know Silock runs and works out a lot.

ziggysocki
10-19-2009, 10:08 PM
I know Rageeumr is also a bigtime runner. He gave me some tips before I ran my first full.

rageeumr
10-20-2009, 08:33 AM
Sadly I've let myself slip a bit. I was training hard last winter for the St. Louis marathon and then a buddy of mine scheduled his wedding for that weekend. No problem, I'll just run Olathe. Then mother nature had something to say about that and they canceled Olathe. So I was kind of deflated after training all winter and not racing.

But as of last week I'm back at it, slowly working to get in shape for Spring marathon season. Pikes Peak sounds like exactly the kind of race that would end me. Hills are my kryptonite. I can only imagine what a mountain would do to me.

And I know what I felt like after hiking to the top of Peak 8 at Breck last winter. Granted I was in ski boots, but even WALKING at that altitude kicked my arse, and I was in pretty good shape at the time.

ziggysocki
10-20-2009, 08:37 AM
You are already signed up for Olathe right? IIRC they transfered the registration from 2009 to 2010. That will be what I am training for over the winter. I was also thinking Vegas in mid December. Anyone ever run that one?

Demonpenz
10-20-2009, 08:49 AM
You're just mad because my bike cost more than your Ford Tempo.

that doesn't even make a difference to me. Less money I spend the mo fo the weed, why don't your girl come slow motion with me.

rageeumr
10-20-2009, 08:52 AM
You are already signed up for Olathe right? IIRC they transfered the registration from 2009 to 2010. That will be what I am training for over the winter. I was also thinking Vegas in mid December. Anyone ever run that one?

I ended up doing the half last year. But I'm guessing I'll run Olathe. Although St. Louis is the same weekend and that is a really pretty course, especially through Forest Park.

A buddy and I were thinking about doing Vegas but we put off training too long. Plus it's about a month before my wife is due with our first, so I'm a little leery about leaving town. The crappy thing is that it's on a Sunday. Riding on a plane the day before a race can really dehydrate you, and if I flew into Vegas on a Friday, I would be EXTREMELY tempted to do a bunch of other things that might dehydrate me.

Infidel Goat
10-20-2009, 08:54 AM
FWIW, I ran the Pikes Peak marathon... hmm... must be at least 12 years ago.

Once you get above the tree line, it really is mostly a glorified fast march with a little hopping from boulder to boulder for good measure. If I were given the choice today, I would MUCH rather run up Pikes Peak again than run down it. That's what really kills your legs.

I trained in St. Louis and found one long hill for repeats. The legs held up fine. There was no way to train my lungs for the altitude, though, short of buying an altitude tent for sleeping--so it did make the miles near the top significantly harder than normal.

Good luck.