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RINGLEADER
10-19-2009, 12:46 PM
Some of this was covered in the Yahoo article a month or so ago but reading what this guy lives with is sad.

Too long to post inline so here's the link: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell?currentPage=all

Pestilence
10-19-2009, 12:49 PM
Fucking Chiefsplanet!!!

Another former Pittsburgh Steeler, Terry Long, drifted into chaos and killed himself four years ago by drinking antifreeze.

Gadzooks
10-19-2009, 12:51 PM
A quick summary:

"My knees hurt! Waaah! "
"I have dementia! Waaah!"

I always knew he was a pussy.

pr_capone
10-19-2009, 12:54 PM
Sad what he has to go through.

What a moronic article though, comparing football to dog fighting.

blaise
10-19-2009, 12:55 PM
Kyle Turnstile

nychief
10-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Sad what he has to go through.

What a moronic article though, comparing football to dog fighting.

yep. Malcolm Gladwell is a real idiot. did you play in the NFL?

blaise
10-19-2009, 01:09 PM
yep. Malcolm Gladwell is a real idiot. did you play in the NFL?

It's not moronic, but there's one big difference- NFL players play voluntarily and are compensated. The dogs are not. I sympathize with Turley, but that's part of the reason their compensation is as high as it is.
It's not like workers in other industries don't suffer long term problems with their bodies. I bet some guy that roofs houses for 20 years or works doing hard work in some factory has long term problems, too. I understand that the injuries to the brain an NFL player might suffer are a different thing than a bad back, but still, it's phyisical problems.
This is one of the reasons I don't mind when players want more money though.

JohninGpt
10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
I was hit with a rare encephalopathy a couple years ago and experienced a lot of the same symptoms. That stuff is terrifying.
Of course mine was due to a whacked out thyroid, not repeated blows to the nugget.

kysirsoze
10-19-2009, 01:36 PM
I'm glad there has been a bigger focus in the last few years on head injuries. I'm sure it's pretty difficult to avoid the effects altogether, but from what I hear it's the re-injuries when guys get rushed back too quickly. Sounds like that might have been a factor with Turley.

DumbHillbillies
10-19-2009, 01:40 PM
Fucking Chiefsplanet!!!

:BLVD: then PBJ

pr_capone
10-19-2009, 02:35 PM
yep. Malcolm Gladwell is a real idiot. did you play in the NFL?

I didn't call the guy an idiot, I said his article was moronic.

Dogs have no choice whether they fight or not nor are they compensated in any way for their part in the battle unless you count taking a turn on a bitch on a rape stand compensation.

The guys who play professional football made an informed decision to enter the sport and make that their career of choice and are highly compensated for it.

Ridiculous question on the end of your post there by the way. Because not playing in the NFL precludes me from having a dissenting opinion than that of the writer of the article, right?

If time spent in the NFL is a qualifier for having an opinion on the matter... Malcolm Gladwell surely does not qualify either.

Demonpenz
10-19-2009, 02:39 PM
i think dogfighting is alot like football

journeyscarab
10-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Problem is every time Turleys wife revs up the microwave he pisses his pants and forgets his name for like an hour...
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RJ
10-19-2009, 08:17 PM
Never express sympathy for another man, especially one who makes more money than you. It's a sign of weakness.

stlchiefs
10-19-2009, 08:21 PM
Crazy stuff on Turley, but a really weird article overall. The dog fighting stuff just came out of nowhere and seemed out of place. He should stick to writing about the players.

Rain Man
10-19-2009, 08:39 PM
I thought it was an interesting article. The dogfighting comparison was a bit forced, but there were enough parallels that I didn't think it was completely superfluous. I think the dogfighting was intended to describe the industry and owners as much as the players, or maybe more.

It's scary to think about the possibility of this type of long-term brain damage if you're a former player at any level. For that matter, I think about a concussion I had in a car wreck many years ago when I read about stuff like this.

wildcat09
10-19-2009, 09:56 PM
This article hits a little close to home. I had 3 pretty serious concussions in college and this scares the chit out of me. I got earholed recovering an onside kick and actually had bleeding at the base of my brain. I was somehow cleared to play the following week. I was young and bullet proof but now that I am at the ripe old age of 30........it does scare me.

Psyko Tek
10-19-2009, 10:14 PM
I didn't call the guy an idiot, I said his article was moronic.

Dogs have no choice whether they fight or not nor are they compensated in any way for their part in the battle unless you count taking a turn on a bitch on a rape stand compensation.

The guys who play professional football made an informed decision to enter the sport and make that their career of choice and are highly compensated for it.

Ridiculous question on the end of your post there by the way. Because not playing in the NFL precludes me from having a dissenting opinion than that of the writer of the article, right?

If time spent in the NFL is a qualifier for having an opinion on the matter... Malcolm Gladwell surely does not qualify either.

in formed descision?

I feel differently

we all played the game (high schoolonly for me) for the love of the game

and 1/2 to 3/4 of that love was putting somebody down hard

my best friend in school
got concussed ona great hit inthe 1st quarter on a kick return
we wree middle line backers and he had no idea there was a game going on he fianlly just wondered ofgf the feild until the coaching stall caught him andf set his ass down

I can understand the connection between dogfichting and football

rules aren't gonna help
maybe better equipment

and the guys they are talking asbout aren't the high dollar ones
just an Oline man gets the hell beat out of him during a game
granted I gotta work 7 or 8 years to make what they do in one

iI dunno
just my 3 cents worth

I liked and was stunned by the article

pr_capone
10-19-2009, 11:14 PM
in formed descision?

I feel differently

we all played the game (high schoolonly for me) for the love of the game

and 1/2 to 3/4 of that love was putting somebody down hard

my best friend in school
got concussed ona great hit inthe 1st quarter on a kick return
we wree middle line backers and he had no idea there was a game going on he fianlly just wondered ofgf the feild until the coaching stall caught him andf set his ass down

I can understand the connection between dogfichting and football

rules aren't gonna help
maybe better equipment

and the guys they are talking asbout aren't the high dollar ones
just an Oline man gets the hell beat out of him during a game
granted I gotta work 7 or 8 years to make what they do in one

iI dunno
just my 3 cents worth

I liked and was stunned by the article

Yup. Informed decision.

The article was written about former NFL players. Not former high school players.

So yes, the professional players in the NFL, even Collegiate level players, know damn well that they are playing a dangerous sport with possibly life altering opportunities for injury.

I understand where you are coming from though. We didn't play in high school for a paycheck or a scholarship. We played because we wanted to... and the girls.

wildcat09
10-20-2009, 08:29 AM
Football was a way for me to get a college education without having a mountain of student loan debt. Sometimes I feel like I am 80 yrs old when I get up in the morning but I got that degree.