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LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 11:24 AM
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/

Bowe
Dorsey
Steve Smith
DJ*
*-WPI

InChiefsHell
10-20-2009, 11:29 AM
NO...fuking...way...

Bowser
10-20-2009, 11:30 AM
"Just heard on WQAM that the Dolphins and Chiefs are close to a deal that would send Dwayne Bowe, and Glenn Dorsey to Miami for 3 undisclosed draft pics. I also heard that Miami and Carolina are also in talks to send WR Steve Smith to Miami, but Miami it waiting to see which deal will better serve the team. So, expect one of these deals to be announced sometime today before the deadline."

doomy3
10-20-2009, 11:30 AM
They sure seem to believe it for whatever reason

Bowser
10-20-2009, 11:31 AM
If, and I stress IF, this is true, it had better be for no less than their first and second next year, and their first in 2011.

That being said, no way do I think this happens.

wild1
10-20-2009, 11:32 AM
Just heard on WQAM that the Dolphins and Chiefs are close to a deal that would send Dwayne Bowe, and Glenn Dorsey to Miami for 3 undisclosed draft pics. I also heard that Miami and Carolina are also in talks to send WR Steve Smith to Miami, but Miami it waiting to see which deal will better serve the team. So, expect one of these deals to be announced sometime today before the deadline.

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Who knows what this guy actually heard or what the station's basis is.

Can anyone go to that WQAM website and listen live?

Gonzo
10-20-2009, 11:33 AM
Ok Gang....

Bowser
10-20-2009, 11:34 AM
Ok Gang....

Pretty much....

Gonzo
10-20-2009, 11:37 AM
Pretty much....

Yep...


Where's Athan when you need him...

ROFL

CoMoChief
10-20-2009, 11:38 AM
If this is the case.....color me finished as a Chiefs fan.

Getting rid of Bowe? Our best offensive weapon when we have little to no talent on offense? Did anyone learn anything from the Jared Allen trade? YOU DONT TRADE AWAY YOUR GOOD YOUNG PLAYERS and bank on the fact that you MIGHT hit on your draft pick you receive in return.

Getting rid of Dorsey when it seems he's finally starting to come around?!?!?!

Getting rid of Derrick Johnson is stupid too......though I can see why we would do it.

Coach
10-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Wow. A source from WPI.

Who would had thunk of it?

Blindside58
10-20-2009, 11:40 AM
I would actually be receptive if Ted Ginn was involved as compensation for Bowe. Bowe fits their scheme of hard nosed 10 yards at a time, and we need a Kick returner/Wideout like Ginn....

kaplin42
10-20-2009, 11:41 AM
I'm sorry, but I think this is great if true.

Dorsey does not fit our needs at all, as he is not a 3-4 lineman, and Bowe is inconsistant as a WR. Give us a few high end picks that will let Piolli and Haley get their guys in here, and away we go.

Hydrae
10-20-2009, 11:42 AM
If we do this I guess we may as well just forfeit the rest of games, We are having a hard enough time competing in this league now.

Dayze
10-20-2009, 11:42 AM
I don't really give a sh*t who leaves, who we get in return etc.

I just want to win a super bowl before I die.

wild1
10-20-2009, 11:43 AM
If we do this I guess we may as well just forfeit the rest of games, We are having a hard enough time competing in this league now.

It's almost like they are more worried about the future than about competing this year. :Poke: :)

CaliforniaChief
10-20-2009, 11:43 AM
It's gonna be a long day. A WPI-inspired CP meltdown of epic proportions.

kaplin42
10-20-2009, 11:43 AM
If we do this I guess we may as well just forfeit the rest of games, We are having a hard enough time competing in this league now.

if you were expecting more than a 3 win season you were deluding yourself. This team is currently horrific, and it starts in the trenches. The O-Line alone could keep this team at the bottom of the barrel for the next several years if not addressed this offseason.

Dayze
10-20-2009, 11:45 AM
just trade them Niswanger for Long straight up and be done with it.

lol

Stewie
10-20-2009, 11:45 AM
NO...fuking...way...

+1

Hydrae
10-20-2009, 11:45 AM
if you were expecting more than a 3 win season you were deluding yourself. This team is currently horrific, and it starts in the trenches. The O-Line alone could keep this team at the bottom of the barrel for the next several years if not addressed this offseason.

I have little to no expectations this year but if this happens I will tune out until after the season.

Sofa King
10-20-2009, 11:47 AM
http://blog.lege.net/content/Follow_the_Lemmings_files/2011186950101688296S600x600Q85.jpg

kcfanXIII
10-20-2009, 11:48 AM
this would have to be compensation comparable to the walker deal the cowboys pulled off way back when...

Rain Man
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
I don't really give a sh*t who leaves, who we get in return etc.

I just want to win a super bowl before I die.



Boy, that doesn't give us much time.



Whoa, hey. Psychic flash. I've never had one of those before.

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 11:49 AM
MONKEY THROWING POO
repeat
MONKEY THROWING POO

Finheaven would make the National Enquirer ashamed

Dayze
10-20-2009, 11:50 AM
Boy, that doesn't give us much time.



Whoa, hey. Psychic flash. I've never had one of those before.

LMAO

kstater
10-20-2009, 12:07 PM
ROFL

Sure-Oz
10-20-2009, 12:10 PM
can't wait till, what 3pm cst for this deadline to be over

kcfanXIII
10-20-2009, 12:12 PM
it is pretty funny to read all them talk like the DEAL IS DONE. lol, any one want to inform them about the source, or should we just let them get their hopes up?

DeezNutz
10-20-2009, 12:13 PM
:(

Sucks to lose both players.

CaliforniaChief
10-20-2009, 12:17 PM
They must be trying to pry Thigpen back.

Bwana
10-20-2009, 12:20 PM
I don't really give a sh*t who leaves, who we get in return etc.

I just want to win a super bowl before I die.

THIS!

Demonpenz
10-20-2009, 12:20 PM
I think this is a good trade for both sides, bowe can drop all the passes he wants in MIAMI.

Coach
10-20-2009, 12:21 PM
2 hours and 39 more minutes before this shitty madness finally ends....

PhillyChiefFan
10-20-2009, 12:22 PM
Now way this happens. Dorsey I can see, because we changed schemes, though I think he is coming along well.

Bowe may drop passes sometimes, but he is the best offensive weapon we have and at the very least a good player we can build on.

DaWolf
10-20-2009, 12:23 PM
I find it hard to believe that all these rumors have legitimacy considering how tight lipped Tuna and Pioli are about their dealings. So all of a sudden some radio station has the inside scoop?

Bwana
10-20-2009, 12:31 PM
I find it hard to believe that all these rumors have legitimacy considering how tight lipped Tuna and Pioli are about their dealings. So all of a sudden some radio station has the inside scoop?

Indeed and I think it's all bullshit, but I could live with it if it's true as well. We need some MAJOR changes.

OnTheWarpath58
10-20-2009, 12:33 PM
I find it hard to believe that all these rumors have legitimacy considering how tight lipped Tuna and Pioli are about their dealings. So all of a sudden some radio station has the inside scoop?

Not that I believe it for a second, but it's usually team employees or the players agents that leak news like this.

the Talking Can
10-20-2009, 12:34 PM
people spend too much time playing Madden football...

DeezNutz
10-20-2009, 12:34 PM
I think this is a good trade for both sides, bowe can drop all the passes he wants in MIAMI.

Good point.

And Dorsey might start getting his shit together, too.

Skip Towne
10-20-2009, 12:35 PM
GoChiefs is conspicuous by his abscence.

kaplin42
10-20-2009, 12:36 PM
Now way this happens. Dorsey I can see, because we changed schemes, though I think he is coming along well.

Bowe may drop passes at least half the time, but he is the best offensive weapon we have and at the very least a sub par player we should look at getting what we can for.

FYP!!!

Demonpenz
10-20-2009, 12:36 PM
GoChiefs is conspicuous by his abscence.

he's at work right now.

JASONSAUTO
10-20-2009, 12:36 PM
GoChiefs is conspicuous by his abscence.

him and the assclown are too busy e mailing each other breaking trade rumors from their respective couches, you know that all kinds of nfl brass stop ny their houses to ask their opinion

DeezNutz
10-20-2009, 12:37 PM
GoChiefs is conspicuous by his abscence.

I know these are tough times. But if you look in your heart, GoChiefs will always be with you.

the Talking Can
10-20-2009, 12:52 PM
he's at work right now.

busily re-reporting the work of people who actually have connections and inside info

According to a <I>Twitter</I> report from WQAM Radio host Steve Goldstein, who is also the play-by-play man for the NHL’s Florida Panthers, the Miami Dolphins could be on the verge of adding another Kansas City Chief to their roster.
<br><br>Per the rumor, the Chiefs want two draft picks and possibly a player from the Dolphins in exchange for wide receiver <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307406>Dwayne Bowe</A>. One of those picks, per Goldstein, would be a 2010 second-round pick. He’s claiming the Chiefs say that’s the minimum they’d accept as part of any trade involving Bowe.

<br><br>There are also other internet rumblings indicating the Baltimore Ravens could be in the mix for Bowe, who has fallen out of favor with head coach Todd Haley. That’s not a surprise considering the entire organization seems intent on releasing or trading most of the players who were part of the Carl Peterson era.
<br><br>The doghouse has been a constant location for Bowe since Haley arrived in Kansas City. They’ve had a tumultuous relationship since off-season workouts began in March. Haley didn’t like Bowe’s “Show” mentality, and it’s steadily gone downhill ever since.
<br><br>The Chiefs and Dolphins have already been busy this offseason. On August 24 they worked out a deal that included an undisclosed 2010 draft pick (reportedly a sixth rounder) in exchange for offensive linemen Andy Alleman and Ike Ndukwe. On September 30, quarterback <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4583398>Tyler Thigpen</A> was shipped to Miami in exchange for a 2010 fifth-round selection.
<br><br>The Chiefs are hoping to cash in during the next 24 hours so they can obtain as many 2010 draft picks as possible, and Bowe might not be the only player traded. Monday night, Kansas City dealt defensive tackle Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers. The Chiefs are also hoping to move linebacker <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307508>Derrick Johnson</A>. <I>Warpaint Illustrated</I> has learned that the Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles and Detroit Lions have all made inquiries regarding Johnson.
<br><br>Like Bowe, Johnson is in the doghouse and receiving only scraps of playing time. He’s in the final year of his rookie contract and likely would welcome any change in order to salvage his career. He played more snaps Sunday against the Redskins than he had in recent weeks, so it’s possible the Chiefs were showcasing him before Tuedsay’s trade deadline.
<br><br>Other players that could be moved include defensive end <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307441>Glenn Dorsey</A> (we hear the Atlanta Falcons are interested), running back <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307530>Larry Johnson</A>, safety <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307542>Jarrad Page</A> and backup quarterback <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4307425>Brodie Croyle</A>.

<br><br>The Chiefs, according to Jay Glazer of <I>Fox Sports.com</I>, are willing to trade anyone on their roster with the exception of starting quarterback <A HREF=http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=8&c=1&nid=4210794>Matt Cassel</A>.
<br><br>Stay tuned to <I>Warpaint Illustrated</I> for the latest trade news involving the Kansas City Chiefs. <br>

http://kan.scout.com/2/911024.html

veist
10-20-2009, 12:57 PM
FYP!!!

He's so sub-par that his DVOA despite our shitty offense is 23.3% ... putting him at #12 at WR in value per play through week 5 of this season. A full 30% swing from where he finished last year at DVOA. He's a real bum and totally not taking to Haley's coaching and not improving at all.

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 12:58 PM
Vermiel says Dwayne Johnson doesn't fit the profile.

Gravedigger
10-20-2009, 12:58 PM
There is a point when cleaning house is a great thing sometimes, especially given our past regime of Carl and Herm BUT I highly doubt during the middle part of the season is the right time. The time is right for Dorsey cause god knows if he'll play better than he's playing right now, Johnson seems to be a person who doesnt care about his role on this team anymore so I can see that, but Dwayne Bowe would just tell me that we aren't even fishing for one more win this year, and that Todd Haley's job isn't in question at the end of the season regardless of the final record.

Sure-Oz
10-20-2009, 01:01 PM
Galloway heading to KC must be a sign that bowe is nearly getting traded!111

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 01:02 PM
Joey G will replace Bowe
Roth will replace DJ
Turd Sands will replace Dorsey

Dicky McElephant
10-20-2009, 01:03 PM
busily re-reporting the work of people who actually have connections and inside info


http://kan.scout.com/2/911024.html

That's premium information!!!!! :evil:

Sure-Oz
10-20-2009, 01:04 PM
That's premium information!!!!! :evil:

I just noticed that too, oopsLMAO

the Talking Can
10-20-2009, 01:05 PM
That's premium information!!!!! :evil:

it is accessible via google to anyone in the world

Sure-Oz
10-20-2009, 01:05 PM
it is accessible via google to anyone in the world

google has a prescription to WPI!!!

King_Chief_Fan
10-20-2009, 01:06 PM
That's premium information!!!!! :evil:

people actually pay for speculation from a hack?

Mr. Laz
10-20-2009, 01:06 PM
2 hours and 39 more minutes before this shitty madness finally ends....
yea ... cus this season is just so much fun having something else getting in the way is just such a bother.

:rolleyes:

kcfanXIII
10-20-2009, 01:11 PM
and that Todd Haley's job isn't in question at the end of the season regardless of the final record.

its not, get over it.

John_Wayne
10-20-2009, 01:11 PM
At this point, I'd love to see EVERY single player named in this article traded in the next two hours. This team has been terrible for 3, going on 4 years. BLOW IT UP! We hired Pioli to cook a meal. We should give him the groceries he wants. We're terrible on offense. We're terrible on defense. The offensive line is terrible. Load up on draft picks and get a young O-line. The entire team, offense and defense, relys on a great O-line. THAT's where rebuilding needs to begin.

kaplin42
10-20-2009, 01:16 PM
At this point, I'd love to see EVERY single player named in this article traded in the next two hours. This team has been terrible for 3, going on 4 years. BLOW IT UP! We hired Pioli to cook a meal. We should give him the groceries he wants. We're terrible on offense. We're terrible on defense. The offensive line is terrible. Load up on draft picks and get a young O-line. The entire team, offense and defense, relys on a great O-line. THAT's where rebuilding needs to begin.

WIN!!!

kcfanXIII
10-20-2009, 01:22 PM
At this point, I'd love to see EVERY single player named in this article traded in the next two hours. This team has been terrible for 3, going on 4 years. BLOW IT UP! We hired Pioli to cook a meal. We should give him the groceries he wants. We're terrible on offense. We're terrible on defense. The offensive line is terrible. Load up on draft picks and get a young O-line. The entire team, offense and defense, relys on a great O-line. THAT's where rebuilding needs to begin.


do i need to remind you of the names of jared allen, or carlos beltran? even when rebuilding you don't trade your young talented players. you just don't. when you do it sets you back even further, cause your left with a crapshoot in the draft.

kaplin42
10-20-2009, 01:25 PM
do i need to remind you of the names of jared allen, or carlos beltran? even when rebuilding you don't trade your young talented players. you just don't. when you do it sets you back even further, cause your left with a crapshoot in the draft.

I would agree with this sentiment, except who on the team is actually of Jared Allen caliber.

And even then, by time this team actually sees the payoff of this, Allen will be on the downside of his career.

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 01:40 PM
Originally Published: October 20, 2009
Expect Quinn, T.O. to stay put

By John Clayton
ESPN.com


General managers and coaches spent Monday reviewing ideas and making phone calls. As everyone saw Friday night when Adams went to the Chicago Bears for a second-round pick in 2010, a deal can come together quickly. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers spent a good portion of last week trying to get draft choices for current players, and Adams was their most recognizable name.

What are the chances for something to get done?


Teams such as the Cleveland Browns, Oakland Raiders, Bucs and Kansas City Chiefs would love to get future value for some of their players. The Chiefs got a fifth-round pick from the Carolina Panthers for defensive tackle Tank Tyler on Monday.

It would take a lot get a Glenn Dorsey out of Kansas City. Plus, the Chiefs are trying to build a 3-4 defensive line, not break it up. Coach Eric Mangini has gone on record as saying the Browns aren't going to trade Brady Quinn or Josh Cribbs. Of the two, Cribbs would draw the most interest because numerous teams would love a versatile playmaker, but Mangini has liked Cribbs since the coach came to Cleveland.


Wide receiver is one of the most cherished positions for teams in search of trade help. The New England Patriots could use a third receiver behind Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Joey Galloway was released Tuesday, and the Patriots are using special-teamer Sam Aiken and seventh-round pick Julian Edelman as their third and fourth receivers.

The Baltimore Ravens would like to upgrade their receiving corps, but don't expect the Chiefs to give up on Dwayne Bowe with his productivity getting better every week. It wouldn't be surprising if the Redskins shop around for another receiver. The Bears might look for a receiver, but they have already given up enough draft choices in the Jay Cutler and Adams trades.


Don't expect anything to happen with Terrell Owens. Owens might be a difference-maker, but he hasn't changed the fortunes of the Buffalo Bills' offense. To acquire Owens, a team must accept the potential problems he might cause for the quarterback and the locker room. Although teams are willing to make gambles like that, the bigger problem is that Owens would have to learn a new offense overnight, further minimizing his value.


The Atlanta Falcons, New York Jets and San Diego Chargers would love to acquire a run-stopping defensive tackle, but there aren't enough available. Each team has suffered a season-ending injury at defensive tackle, but finding replacements this late is impossible. Most teams want to hold on to defensive tackles because they are too hard to find.


Because most teams have excess running backs, there is virtually no value in dealing a back. At best, a good back could net a fourth-round pick, but the likelier scenario is a sixth-rounder. In most cases, it makes better sense to keep a back than trade him.
John Clayton, a recipient of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's McCann Award for distinguished reporting, is a senior writer for ESPN.com.

Silock
10-20-2009, 01:43 PM
PRINT EM

ChiefsCountry
10-20-2009, 01:48 PM
I would actually be receptive if Ted Ginn was involved as compensation for Bowe. Bowe fits their scheme of hard nosed 10 yards at a time, and we need a Kick returner/Wideout like Ginn....

Ginn is the type of receiver you need to pair with Bowe. Ginn isnt a #1, Bowe is. Ginn is a solid #2 speed guy, which is what Bowe needs opposite him.

-King-
10-20-2009, 01:49 PM
At this point, I'd love to see EVERY single player named in this article traded in the next two hours. This team has been terrible for 3, going on 4 years. BLOW IT UP! We hired Pioli to cook a meal. We should give him the groceries he wants. We're terrible on offense. We're terrible on defense. The offensive line is terrible. Load up on draft picks and get a young O-line. The entire team, offense and defense, relys on a great O-line. THAT's where rebuilding needs to begin.

Oh good analogy. So when you go grocery shopping you throw away all the food you presently have?
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LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 01:50 PM
Ginn is the one who sucks the penis in Miami
Haley would strangle him day one

wild1
10-20-2009, 01:53 PM
Oh good analogy. So when you go grocery shopping you throw away all the food you presently have?
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If it's rotten I do.

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 01:56 PM
Finheaven's tag line is Go Deep, and it's not new.

Red Coater
10-20-2009, 01:59 PM
who would replace Bowe in next years draft in RD 2?

Dayze
10-20-2009, 02:00 PM
SHipley

lmao

Coach
10-20-2009, 02:01 PM
One more hour before this shitstorm is finally over....

Molitoth
10-20-2009, 02:03 PM
One more hour before this shitstorm is finally over....

ughh, i hope SOMETHING happens that we can be excited about...

Reerun_KC
10-20-2009, 02:04 PM
Oh good analogy. So when you go grocery shopping you throw away all the food you presently have?
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considering most is rotten or spoiled... I sure dont want to start a killer meal with spoiled steaks, rotten potatoes and wormie corn...

do you?

Dayze
10-20-2009, 02:05 PM
A friend of mine in Miami just called to let me know he saw Dorsey get off a plane wearing a white tank top, under a teal cotton sport-coat w/ sleeves rolled up; white cotton slacks, and loafters w/ no socks.

Coach
10-20-2009, 02:06 PM
ughh, i hope SOMETHING happens that we can be excited about...

Well, if something can be done with Derrick Johnson, that'd be great. Other than that, I think the Chiefs are pretty much done.

Shag
10-20-2009, 02:09 PM
ughh, i hope SOMETHING happens that we can be excited about...

Don't hold your breath...

Dayze
10-20-2009, 02:11 PM
Don't hold your breath...

yep the word "Excitement" hasn't been associted with the Chiefs in 6+ years.

topher79
10-20-2009, 02:12 PM
who would replace Bowe in next years draft in RD 2?

RD2 Dezmon Briscoe
RD4 Kerry Meier

Coach
10-20-2009, 02:12 PM
RD2 Dezmon Briscoe
RD4 Kerry Meier

Hell no.

topher79
10-20-2009, 02:14 PM
You have a great gauge for talent. Congrats.

Red Coater
10-20-2009, 02:14 PM
ughh, i hope SOMETHING happens that we can be excited about...

chiefs fans after 3p.m. :banghead::deevee::cuss::banghead::deevee::deevee::cuss:

Stinger
10-20-2009, 02:24 PM
chiefs fans after 3p.m. :banghead::deevee::cuss::banghead::deevee::deevee::cuss:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/lemmingschiefs.jpg

LaChapelle
10-20-2009, 02:35 PM
One more hour before this shitstorm is finally over....

The paperwork needs to be turned in by 3. This shit can drag on for several more hours.

Spicy McHaggis
10-20-2009, 02:49 PM
SHipley

lmao

The kid should have his Ph D by now.

DaWolf
10-20-2009, 02:50 PM
Not happening. RT @rayhansen: @Adam_Schefter @therealtmr any news on Bowe being traded to the ravens?
http://twitter.com/ADAM_SCHEFTER

Dayze
10-20-2009, 02:57 PM
The kid should have his Ph D by now.

Yeah, I was just tossing out the first Big 12 WR I could think of in response to the ‘who will we draft in the 2nd round to replace Bowe”.

Being sarcastic of course.
:D

Simply Red
10-20-2009, 02:59 PM
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/

Bowe
Dorsey
Steve Smith
DJ*
*-WPI

your link isn't working, can someone cut and paste this into the body of a post? n00bs ughhh!

Red Coater
10-20-2009, 03:00 PM
well whats up not hearing anything

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 03:02 PM
RD2 Dezmon Briscoe
RD4 Kerry Meier

I wouldn't mind Meier. Nice hands, runs good routes, takes a beating and still hangs onto the ball/doesn't go Johnny Morton/Bowe and alligator arm it. Fills the third QB spot as well as the possession receiver position. I wouldn't mind a guy like that one bit with a 6th or 7th round pick. Oh...sorry. We don't have one of those. We got O'Connell though. *sigh*

DaWolf
10-20-2009, 03:02 PM
well whats up not hearing anything

Either no one was traded or Pioli made a trade that we'll only hear about in three weeks because it was so secret...

Simply Red
10-20-2009, 03:03 PM
your link isn't working, can someone cut and paste this into the body of a post? n00bs ughhh!

umm, pls.

bowener
10-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Well....

It's 3:15pm central, which means it is 15 minutes after the deadline for all of the NFL.

Any official news of trades?

Bill Lundberg
10-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Well....

It's 3:15pm central, which means it is 15 minutes after the deadline for all of the NFL.

Any official news of trades?

The Eagles acquired Will Weatherspoon from the Rams for Brandon Gibson and a 5th round pick

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 03:23 PM
Yeah, I was just tossing out the first Big 12 WR I could think of in response to the ‘who will we draft in the 2nd round to replace Bowe”.

Being sarcastic of course.
:D

You don't have to be sarcastic. I'd like to see the Chiefs with another couple of 2nd rounders for this next draft. There is some really nice o-line guys, LB's, WR's that will be there in the second.

Shit. Another second rounder could give us a guy like:

S: Darrell Stuckey

WR: Arrellious Benn, Eric Decker, Jordan Shipley, Mike Williams

OLB: AJ Edds, Eric Norwood, George Selvie, Brandon Lang, Ricky Sapp, Von Miller

OT: Zane Beadles, Ciron Black, Jason Fox, Sam Young

TE Jermaine Gresham, Dennis Pitta, Ed Dickson

C Matt Tenant, Kris O'Dowd

DT Terrance Cody

G Mike Johnson, Mike Iupati

RB Jon Dwyer, Evan Royster

ILB Rolando McCain, Sean Lee, Joe Pawelek, Brandon Spikes

There is going to be a shit ton of talent at a lot of positions available in the 2nd round.

DeezNutz
10-20-2009, 03:27 PM
You don't have to be sarcastic. I'd like to see the Chiefs with another couple of 2nd rounders for this next draft. There is some really nice o-line guys, LB's, WR's that will be there in the second.

Shit. Another second rounder could give us a guy like:

S: Darrell Stuckey

WR: Arrellious Benn, Eric Decker, Jordan Shipley, Mike Williams

OLB: AJ Edds, Eric Norwood, George Selvie, Brandon Lang, Ricky Sapp, Von Miller

OT: Zane Beadles, Ciron Black, Jason Fox, Sam Young

TE Jermaine Gresham, Dennis Pitta, Ed Dickson

C Matt Tenant, Kris O'Dowd

DT Terrance Cody

G Mike Johnson, Mike Iupati

RB Jon Dwyer, Evan Royster

ILB Rolando McCain, Sean Lee, Joe Pawelek, Brandon Spikes

There is going to be a shit ton of talent at a lot of positions available in the 2nd round.

Don't worry. We're not going to let this fat cat slip to the second.

carlos3652
10-20-2009, 03:28 PM
The Eagles acquired Will Weatherspoon from the Rams for Brandon Gibson and a 5th round pick

So much for dj to the eagles... I wouldn't even care to just get a 5th or 6th... We probably failed askig for a 5th...
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Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Don't worry. We're not going to let this fat cat slip to the second.

If the Chiefs burn a top ten first rounder on Cody, I'll fucking go postal. I'd take him with a multiple second rounder though.

carlos3652
10-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Don't worry. We're not going to let this fat cat slip to the second.

can we move up with our 2 and a 4 or 5 to a late first... To get a s an the nt?
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MichaelH
10-20-2009, 03:30 PM
If this is the case.....color me finished as a Chiefs fan.

Getting rid of Bowe? Our best offensive weapon when we have little to no talent on offense? Did anyone learn anything from the Jared Allen trade? YOU DONT TRADE AWAY YOUR GOOD YOUNG PLAYERS and bank on the fact that you MIGHT hit on your draft pick you receive in return.

Getting rid of Dorsey when it seems he's finally starting to come around?!?!?!

Getting rid of Derrick Johnson is stupid too......though I can see why we would do it.

I agree.

Simply Red
10-20-2009, 03:30 PM
Wait, so we made ZERO trades outside of Galloway?!!!!

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 03:33 PM
Wait, so we made ZERO trades outside of Galloway?!!!!

So much for having desirable "good" players...

Fuck you Carl.

carlos3652
10-20-2009, 03:34 PM
We traded tank for a 5th yesterday... And I think it was put outthere that kc was having a fiire sale so that pioli would know what value each player has now... For future reference....
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Red Coater
10-20-2009, 03:34 PM
Well Tank being gone we will take a NT for sure with our first RD pick. No Berry or Mays

Shag
10-20-2009, 03:36 PM
Wait, so we made ZERO trades outside of Galloway?!!!!

Galloway wasn't a trade - he's a FA tryout. Only reported trade as of now was for Tyler yesterday.

Announcements could still be forthcoming, but I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happened with KC...

the Talking Can
10-20-2009, 03:38 PM
i'll never forgive pee-oli for trading Bowe and Dorsey


never ever

carlos3652
10-20-2009, 03:41 PM
Well Tank being gone we will take a NT for sure with our first RD pick. No Berry or Mays

We won't take it with a top 7 pick... I can see them moving down or moving up to the late first round to get their nt....

Let's say we drop from 5 to 8 - we still get a S and we get an additional 3rd or 4th that we use to get our early 2nd to become a late first...
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Red Coater
10-20-2009, 03:41 PM
i'll never forgive pee-oli for trading Bowe and Dorsey


never ever

the 2 best players on the team

Fish
10-20-2009, 03:42 PM
Breaking News: Ron Edwards injured in freak unicycle accident. Out for season.

Dave Lane
10-20-2009, 03:42 PM
At this point, I'd love to see EVERY single player named in this article traded in the next two hours. This team has been terrible for 3, going on 4 years. BLOW IT UP! We hired Pioli to cook a meal. We should give him the groceries he wants. We're terrible on offense. We're terrible on defense. The offensive line is terrible. Load up on draft picks and get a young O-line. The entire team, offense and defense, relys on a great O-line. THAT's where rebuilding needs to begin.

Is this Herm?

wild1
10-20-2009, 03:43 PM
i'll never forgive pee-oli for trading Bowe and Dorsey


never ever

I hate mortgaging the future to win now!

Red Coater
10-20-2009, 03:43 PM
We won't take it with a top 7 pick... I can see them moving down or moving up to the late first round to get their nt....

Let's say we drop from 5 to 8 - we still get a S and we get an additional 3rd or 4th that we use to get our early 2nd to become a late first...
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thats what we said last draft. i bet you they draft SUH!

wild1
10-20-2009, 03:43 PM
Breaking News: Ron Edwards injured in freak unicycle accident. Out for season.

forgot the seat?

CoMoChief
10-20-2009, 03:46 PM
Wait, so we made ZERO trades outside of Galloway?!!!!

We TRADED for Galloway? I thought he was released?

Better not have fucking traded for him. That would be a super retarded move.

MVChiefFan
10-20-2009, 03:47 PM
forgot the seat?

:eek: ROFL

Tribal Warfare
10-20-2009, 03:48 PM
If the Chiefs burn a top ten first rounder on Cody, I'll fucking go postal.

Then prepare

DaWolf
10-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Looks like Glazer was right, everyone on the roster was probably available, but guys like Bowe and Dorsey weren't going to be available for nothing. Pioli would have had to have his socks blown off by an offer, and it sounds like that didn't happen.

Of course, if they don't continue to show improvement the rest of the year, they could easily be shipped in the offseason...

DaWolf
10-20-2009, 03:51 PM
If the Chiefs burn a top ten first rounder on Cody, I'll ****ing go postal. I'd take him with a multiple second rounder though.

If Pioli can trade out of the top ten and get more picks, I'm sure we'll be moving down. Doubt we find a willing trade partner though...

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 03:55 PM
Well Tank being gone we will take a NT for sure with our first RD pick. No Berry or Mays

Mays is slightly over-hyped, IMO. His physical skills are amazing, but he doesn't show an instinctive inclination to the level of guys like Stuckey, Berry, Johnson and the like.

I think he's Bernard Pollard with more speed. And there's nothing wrong with that, but not top ten pick worthy.

dirk digler
10-20-2009, 03:56 PM
So WPI was wrong again? Color me surprised

wild1
10-20-2009, 03:59 PM
So WPI was wrong again? Color me surprised

What was the report?

Simply Red
10-20-2009, 04:02 PM
What was the report?

who knows? the link doesn't work and the thread-starter (n00b)
has no clue how to cut-n-paste!

Stinger
10-20-2009, 04:03 PM
So WPI was wrong again? Color me surprised

Change You Can Beli...... oops sorry wrong forum. :D

dirk digler
10-20-2009, 04:05 PM
What was the report?

I thought people said WPI was reporting we are trading Bowe and Dorsey to the Fins for draft picks and a player

Count Alex's Losses
10-20-2009, 04:06 PM
I thought people said WPI was reporting we are trading Bowe and Dorsey to the Fins for draft picks and a player

Absolutely not.

dirk digler
10-20-2009, 04:09 PM
Absolutely not.

So somebody must have made some shit up. What were you guys reporting?

Count Alex's Losses
10-20-2009, 04:11 PM
So somebody must have made some shit up. What were you guys reporting?

It's on this thread.

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 04:12 PM
I want my fucking draft picks! This is total bullshit!

dirk digler
10-20-2009, 04:14 PM
It's on this thread.

I thought I saw that earlier. My bad I was half wrong no Dorsey but Bowe to the Fins for draft picks and a player. I don't know if I believe that one either.

Count Alex's Losses
10-20-2009, 04:15 PM
I thought I saw that earlier. My bad I was half wrong no Dorsey but Bowe to the Fins for draft picks and a player. I don't know if I believe that one either.

I don't believe any trade rumors from anyone this time of year. 99 percent of them yield nothing.

You'll notice no one knew shit about the Tank Tyler trade.

CupidStunt
10-20-2009, 04:17 PM
the 2 best players on the team

:doh!:

Brandon Flowers.

ChiefsCountry
10-20-2009, 04:27 PM
Mays is slightly over-hyped, IMO. His physical skills are amazing, but he doesn't show an instinctive inclination to the level of guys like Stuckey, Berry, Johnson and the like.

I think he's Bernard Pollard with more speed. And there's nothing wrong with that, but not top ten pick worthy.

Thats funny coming from a guy who wants to draft a tackle from a spread offense.

wild1
10-20-2009, 04:30 PM
I thought people said WPI was reporting we are trading Bowe and Dorsey to the Fins for draft picks and a player

that was from some miami radio station. Wipe was reporting that the eagles were trying to trade for Derrick Johnson.

Red Coater
10-20-2009, 04:39 PM
:doh!:

Brandon Flowers.

my bad you are right.

1 Flowers
2 Bowe
3 Dorsey

Stinger
10-20-2009, 04:47 PM
my bad you are right.

1 Flowers
2 Bowe
3 Dorsey

No love for our current MVP's - Colquitt or Succop?

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 05:01 PM
Thats funny coming from a guy who wants to draft a tackle from a spread offense.

As I said, with the Chiefs running a semi-spread anyway, and it being adopted more and more throughout the NFL, I don't see a problem with Okung as the Chiefs first round choice. Besides, he's been a starting LT for three seasons now, and has gone against quality rush ends consistently during his college career. He has excellent footwork and plays hard all game long. I'd rather have Okung at LT, which allows Albert to slide over to LG (a position that I think he could be absolutely dominant at for the next decade), and draft a player like Stuckey in the second than just have Berry in the first. (And as I stated, I don't think that Mays has shown enough instinct on the ball and quality tackling to be considered anything other than a faster Bernard Pollard at this point. And like I said, that's not a bad thing, just not a top ten player in my opinion.)

Saccopoo
10-20-2009, 05:05 PM
And if you wanted a big free safety, you could always look at someone like Kam Chancellor of Virginia Tech in the 3/4 round, or if you wanted a ball hawk, someone like Robert Johnson of Utah in the later rounds would be a nice pick. I just don't see where Mays justifies a top ten pick other than his physical attributes. Kind of like Dunlap at Florida. He's a complete and utter physical freak, but his play on the field isn't to the same level as what his athleticism would suggest - just like Mays.

DeezNutz
10-20-2009, 08:07 PM
If Pioli can trade out of the top ten and get more picks, I'm sure we'll be moving down. Doubt we find a willing trade partner though...

We're going to be in the same position as last year. Top 5 for sure, probably top 3.

No one will want the pick.