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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:07 PM
suspecting beasties will stir fry everyone's wok here, but oh well

MikeMaslowski
10-22-2009, 02:08 PM
Not Ems last album... that is a frisbee for me now.

Frazod
10-22-2009, 02:11 PM
No Vanilla Ice? FAIL

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:13 PM
No Vanilla Ice? FAIL

man I thought about it, but i was going to have this somewhat serious. write in as other.

Frazod
10-22-2009, 02:16 PM
man I thought about it, but i was going to have this somewhat serious. write in as other.

Like I really care. They all FAIL as far as I'm concerned.

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:17 PM
I thought about adding debra harry because of the end of raptor

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Like I really care. They all FAIL as far as I'm concerned.

you might like some rap, ever heard that song Madonna raps at the end of her version of american pie by don mclean, it's pretty good

blaise
10-22-2009, 02:19 PM
Prime Minister Pete Nice and Serch are devastated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4WWDprtFMM

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blaise
10-22-2009, 02:20 PM
The Beastie's blow Em out though just on the basis of Paul's Boutique.

Blindside58
10-22-2009, 02:21 PM
The Beastie's blow Em out though just on the basis of Paul's Boutique.

Absolutely - "Pass the Mic" is the current ringtone on my phone!

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:23 PM
Prime Minister Pete Nice and Serch are devastated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4WWDprtFMM

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very very solid LMAO

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:24 PM
Prime Minister Pete Nice and Serch are devastated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4WWDprtFMM

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revolutionary yes, better no. I can come up with like 10 lyrics from the beasties that are beyond lame

blaise
10-22-2009, 02:28 PM
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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:29 PM
i am always torn because Beastie boys are the patron saint of white people and Eminem is a ST JOE CELEBERTY

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:33 PM
speaking of bad lyrics atleast the beasties are tounge and cheek with the bad ones. Puff daddy: My name is Ditty, I rock ice y'all, roll so large, call me chili dog.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:34 PM
Marshall Mathers LP. End of thread.

Beastie Boys suck dog shit through a straw except for 'Sabotage'. That song and video combo is awesome.

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Better music, Beasties. Better rapper, Marshall Marshall Marshall.

Without Me and Lose Yourself will be classics forever.

Little bit of weed mixed with some hard liquor.

He's suspenseful with a pencil.

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Marshall Mathers LP. End of thread.

Beastie Boys suck dog shit through a straw except for 'Sabotage'. That song and video combo is awesome.


I dunno, I am pretty sure beasties gave white boys a License to Ill

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:38 PM
Exhibit A of Beastie Boys ass-sucking:

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Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:38 PM
I dunno, I am pretty sure beasties gave white boys a License to IllWord.

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 02:39 PM
Exhibit A of Beastie Boys ass-sucking:

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To be fair, this is what they were competing with

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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:40 PM
please give the titles of both songs BL and PRBABLO

blaise
10-22-2009, 02:40 PM
Exhibit A of them not sucking

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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:41 PM
<--ignoring PM's to add kid rock or kottonmouth kings, ICP

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 02:41 PM
please give the titles of both songs BL and PRBABLO

PRP - Beasties - Brass Monkey
BL - Fat Boys - All You Can Eat.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:41 PM
Brass Monkey.

Exhibit B of ungodly suckitude:

'Intergalactic'

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Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 02:41 PM
Exhibit A of Beastie Boys ass-sucking:

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Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 02:42 PM
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Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:42 PM
Exhibit A of them not sucking

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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
Hello Nasty is always on my playlist. Just came out at one of those times...... some of beasties nonsense gave room for trash like my humps!

L.A. Chieffan
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
if u dont like intergalatic gtfo

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
Paul Revere>Brass Monkey.

Reminds me, I was driving back to Kirksville in College with the GF and her friends from the big city of Columbia after a long evening of partying. Told them they had to make sure I didn't fall asleep while driving. Someone got the great idea of sing 'No Sleep, 'til Macon, MACON!!' incessantly on the way back. Funny for 30 seconds.

blaise
10-22-2009, 02:44 PM
Thank you for Exhibit C of suckitude.

if you say that song sucks, you're dumb. It's better than some gay song crying about your mommy.

POND_OF_RED
10-22-2009, 02:46 PM
Atmosphere hands down. Slug is definitely more consistent than Eminem. Eminem has made some great songs but he has also made quite a few terrible ones as well. I never cared to much for the beastie boys. Sabotage and Intergalactic are great but I can't think of that many more good Beastie Boys songs.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:46 PM
if you say that song sucks, you're dumb. It's better than some gay song crying about your mommy.Correct. I'm and idiot.

Some gay song crying about your mommy >>>>>>> A song titled 'Shake your rump'.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:47 PM
Scientific studies show Sammy Kershaw > Beastie Boys.

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 02:48 PM
Scientific studies show Sammy Kershaw > Beastie Boys.

They don't have science in the South.

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 02:49 PM
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blaise
10-22-2009, 02:50 PM
Correct. I'm and idiot.

Some gay song crying about your mommy >>>>>>> A song titled 'Shake your rump'.

I guess, if you're into hearing some dude crying about his mommy for four minutes. To each his own, I guess.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:51 PM
Sorry if I prefer a talented lyricist to a group of nasal, corny, goofy white guys making "oooo-oooo" noises with a funky porno beat in the background while rapping about house parties and smoking cigarettes. Can't forget those bad-ass horn noises either...oh sweet, another porno guitar riff. That song is a gift from the Gods.

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 02:51 PM
Reminds me, I was driving back to Kirksville in College with the GF and her friends from the big city of Columbia after a long evening of partying. Told them they had to make sure I didn't fall asleep while driving. Someone got the great idea of sing 'No Sleep, 'til Macon, MACON!!' incessantly on the way back. Funny for 30 seconds.Macon drive-in = win.

NSTB is probably my least-favorite Beastie song. Fight for your right is up there as well. The rest of that album was solid, though.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:52 PM
They don't have science in the South.I meant to say the Bible says Sammy Kershaw > Beastie Boys. The Good Book is southern science.

Nixhex
10-22-2009, 02:52 PM
Beastie Boys based on quality, longevity and creativity.

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 02:55 PM
The Beastie's blow Em out though just on the basis of Paul's Boutique.This. Paul's Boutique was simply an incredible album from start to finish.

Oh, and the Beasties hung and toured with Run DMC (I think Rick Rubin might have produced for both). It doesn't get much better than that.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 02:55 PM
Not to say Eminem hasn't produced some massive turds as well; but he does have one absolutely masterful 'rap' album and a couple more really solid albums.

blaise
10-22-2009, 02:58 PM
Not to say Eminem hasn't produced some massive turds as well; but he does have one absolutely masterful 'rap' album and a couple more really solid albums.

he does, but aside from your opinion, most people would agree that the Beastie Boys have a masterful rap album as well. Paul's Boutique is considered by a lot of people as a classic, masterful album. If you don't, so be it, but to pretend it doesn't have that reputation, or that it's just some guys going "oooh" is absurd.

Pestilence
10-22-2009, 03:00 PM
Eminem with the slight edge over Atmosphere.

The Beastie Boys are one of the most overrated groups out there.

vailpass
10-22-2009, 03:01 PM
Atmosphere hands down. Slug is definitely more consistent than Eminem. Eminem has made some great songs but he has also made quite a few terrible ones as well. I never cared to much for the beastie boys. Sabotage and Intergalactic are great but I can't think of that many more good Beastie Boys songs.

:eek:

vailpass
10-22-2009, 03:02 PM
Eminem with the slight edge over Atmosphere.

The Beastie Boys are one of the most overrated groups out there.

Are you 17 years old?

blaise
10-22-2009, 03:03 PM
:eek:

The songs he listed as his favorite are two of their most commercial and worst songs.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 03:03 PM
Are you 17 years old?Are you 40+ years old?

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 03:03 PM
FTR - I state my opinion having bought everything Beasties and Marshall have done.

Fruit Ninja
10-22-2009, 03:04 PM
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My favorite song by Beastie Boys. Love their music. Seen them 3 times in concert. Love it all.

KCUnited
10-22-2009, 03:04 PM
Who?

Fruit Ninja
10-22-2009, 03:06 PM
Eminem with the slight edge over Atmosphere.

The Beastie Boys are one of the most overrated groups out there.

**** no they arent. They are legends. I grew up on this shit. I remember walking home in the 3rd grade with my big ass walkman listening to license to Ill on the way home. Used to keep it in my backpack for the walk home. lol

vailpass
10-22-2009, 03:13 PM
Sorry if I prefer a talented lyricist to a group of nasal, corny, goofy white guys making "oooo-oooo" noises with a funky porno beat in the background while rapping about house parties and smoking cigarettes. Can't forget those bad-ass horn noises either...oh sweet, another porno guitar riff. That song is a gift from the Gods.

Could you be any more musically ignorant or any less informed?

L.A. Chieffan
10-22-2009, 03:16 PM
if you dont like beasties theres something wrong with you.

if you DO like country Post-1990 theres something wrong with you too.

blaise
10-22-2009, 03:18 PM
if you dont like beasties theres something wrong with you.

if you DO like country Post-1990 theres something wrong with you too.

Country post 1990 is mostly pop music with a fiddle.

Baby Lee
10-22-2009, 03:22 PM
Country post 1990 is mostly pop music with a fiddle.

Would you tell Tom Petty that?

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 03:31 PM
nickleback is country with distortion eww this game is fuN!

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:32 PM
Paul Barman.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:33 PM
if you dont like beasties theres something wrong with you.

if you DO like country Post-1990 theres something wrong with you too.

oh, & th^t

KCUnited
10-22-2009, 03:36 PM
House of Pain cold wrecks all these sukkkaz.

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 03:37 PM
Could you be any more musically ignorant or any less informed?
dd

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:41 PM
The BB have put out some awesome albums, Pauls Boutique towers above the others IMO. BUT, the best albums by any of the BB's, are/is anything put out by MixMasterMike 'solo'

jidar
10-22-2009, 03:42 PM
Sorry if I prefer a talented lyricist to a group of nasal, corny, goofy white guys making "oooo-oooo" noises with a funky porno beat in the background while rapping about house parties and smoking cigarettes. Can't forget those bad-ass horn noises either...oh sweet, another porno guitar riff. That song is a gift from the Gods.

Hey genius, you're comparing hiphop from the early 80s to hiphop from modern times.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:44 PM
yeah PostRockPablo, this may be your worst contribution, ever. Go make an Alan Jackson thread, you freaking hick.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:44 PM
:)

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 03:53 PM
I like all three. Slug (from Atmosphere) is awesome.

But Slim Shady wins the thread. He's absolutely one of the best ever. He's so insane on the mic when he's not doing the poppy stuff. He's also a wonderful lyricist.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 03:59 PM
aight fuck this, brb.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da-9ezQyu-Q

HonestChieffan
10-22-2009, 04:01 PM
I saw a stripper perform once named Betty Crackers.

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 04:04 PM
I saw a stripper perform once named Betty Crackers.

pic? ... or it didn't happen.

HonestChieffan
10-22-2009, 04:10 PM
pic? ... or it didn't happen.

www.myspace.com/beanstalks

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 04:13 PM
Not Ems last album... that is a frisbee for me now.

This. But I don't consider Beasties any more rappers than I do Linkin Park. They rap in their songs but the genre is primarily Rock. Eminem will never be mistaken for a rock star. Gotta go with Eminem.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Paul Revere>Brass Monkey.

Hells yes

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 04:17 PM
This. But I don't consider Beasties any more rappers than I do Linkin Park. They rap in their songs but the genre is primarily Rock. Eminem will never be mistaken for a rock star. Gotta go with Eminem.

:spock: Rock?

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 04:21 PM
www.myspace.com/beanstalks

it's hawt!:clap:how's the cooter? shaved or landing-strip?

Simply Red
10-22-2009, 04:23 PM
:spock: Rock?

maybe portions of 'Licensed to Ill' that's about it, throw. Unless you through in some of their 'punk' work. Which is how they started, they were skate punks prior to rap.

Sanka
10-22-2009, 04:24 PM
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Reaper16
10-22-2009, 04:29 PM
Got to give some love to Slug in this thread, though:

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SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 04:40 PM
:spock: Rock?

Yes, hence most of their awards are for rock, except for one. And if you go to the music store, you will only find them in the Rock section.

Archie F. Swin
10-22-2009, 04:41 PM
Eminem has a sick flow, but the Beastie boys have some of the sickest beats in all of hip hop history. I would love to hear Eminem flow over a beat like "Finger Lickin' " from the Beastie Boys. Many of those beats were played by Mike D on drums, not sampled.


I haven't heard enough Atmosphere to have an opinion

Archie F. Swin
10-22-2009, 04:42 PM
this is a STUPID BEAT(in a good way)
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Bi_polar
10-22-2009, 04:47 PM
Yes, hence most of their awards are for rock, except for one. And if you go to the music store, you will only find them in the Rock section.

:spock: music store?

scott free
10-22-2009, 04:57 PM
Brass Monkey.

Exhibit B of ungodly suckitude:

'Intergalactic'

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...:shake:

I remember seeing them come running through the crowd with this song at one of the hip-hop awards & absolutely destroying the place with it...you'd have thought Tupac had risen from the grave.

The Beasties have maintained credibility with fans of all stripes & critics alike for a very long time now. 3 Jews on the cutting edge of rap?... & art-rock for this long?...thats real boundary breaker/across all lines achievement.

Eminem is obviously the real deal, but i gotta go Beasties...they've been relevant longer.

Planetary FTW!1!

Archie F. Swin
10-22-2009, 04:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da-9ezQyu-Q

HOLY SHIT!

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 04:59 PM
:spock: music store?

Must be new to your part of the world. Ill try to explain. Follow along. Here in Cali we have places called music stores. Theres are places where people go to find CDs, DVDs, posters and such of their favorite singers, rappers, rockers and what ever else tickles their fancy. There is a lot of music out there so they try to break it up by genre. Also to help sell other albums that might just be of similar taste. Eminem will always be found in the "Rap/Hip Hop" section. Beastie Boys on the contrary are found in the "Rock/Pop" section. Take your pick as to which you prefer them to be labled, but if they were Rap they would be placed in the former, rather than the latter.

Archie F. Swin
10-22-2009, 05:03 PM
Must be new to your part of the world. Ill try to explain. Follow along. Here in Cali we have places called music stores. Theres are places where people go to find CDs, DVDs, posters and such of their favorite singers, rappers, rockers and what ever else tickles their fancy. There is a lot of music out there so they try to break it up by genre. Also to help sell other albums that might just be of similar taste. Eminem will always be found in the "Rap/Hip Hop" section. Beastie Boys on the contrary are found in the "Rock/Pop" section. Take your pick as to which you prefer them to be labled, but if they were Rap they would be placed in the former, rather than the latter.

a few short years from now there will be no reason for music stores to exist

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:05 PM
Must be new to your part of the world. Ill try to explain. Follow along. Here in Cali we have places called music stores. Theres are places where people go to find CDs, DVDs, posters and such of their favorite singers, rappers, rockers and what ever else tickles their fancy. There is a lot of music out there so they try to break it up by genre. Also to help sell other albums that might just be of similar taste. Eminem will always be found in the "Rap/Hip Hop" section. Beastie Boys on the contrary are found in the "Rock/Pop" section. Take your pick as to which you prefer them to be labled, but if they were Rap they would be placed in the former, rather than the latter.
That's racist. Beasties are totally and completely hip hop.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:08 PM
a few short years from now there will be no reason for music stores to exist

So youre saying classifying into genres will no longer exist as well. All anarchy will break loose as Power 106 plays Bone Thugs followed by the new smash hit of Tim McGraw.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:10 PM
That's racist. Beasties are totally and completely hip hop.

Tell that to their record label. Who deems them Rock/Pop. So that said music stores will put them in similar music so that some one else buying another album might take a look at it and say "hey, this looks like it could be interesting." If you put Garth Brooks next to Tupac, that would not happen.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:12 PM
Tell that to their record label. Who deems them Rock/Pop. So that said music stores will put them in similar music so that some one else buying another album might take a look at it and say "hey, this looks like it could be interesting." If you put Garth Brooks next to Tupac, that would not happen.
I'm just going to go ahead and say that there are objective musical genres and people can be wrong about classifying bands. Think about how many people consider (very incorrectly) hard rock bands like Disturbed or Slipknot to be metal.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:19 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and say that there are objective musical genres and people can be wrong about classifying bands. Think about how many people consider (very incorrectly) hard rock bands like Disturbed or Slipknot to be metal.

Disturbed and Slipknot are not considered metal. They are considered Nu Metal and Alternative Metal. Beastie Boys I believe to be in the Alternative Rock catagory because it is Rock music (for the most part, they have won a grammy for best rap song.) that they rap along to. Just so everyone knows, I am in no way saying I do not like Beastie Boys. I love them. I would prefer them to Eminem. But thats not what the poll asked.

KCUnited
10-22-2009, 05:22 PM
BB transcend genre, that's what sets them apart.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:22 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and say that there are objective musical genres and people can be wrong about classifying bands. Think about how many people consider (very incorrectly) hard rock bands like Disturbed or Slipknot to be metal.

And yes, there are a lot of people who do. But im talking in the industry. Not just Joe Blow who buys an album.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:22 PM
Disturbed and Slipknot are not considered metal. They are considered Nu Metal and Alternative Metal. Beastie Boys I believe to be in the Alternative Rock catagory because it is Rock music (for the most part, they have won a grammy for best rap song.) that they rap along to. Just so everyone knows, I am in no way saying I do not like Beastie Boys. I love them. I would prefer them to Eminem. But thats not what the poll asked.
No such genre as Alternative Metal. Trust me. I will cut a ho.
I still maintain that the Beastie Boys are hip-hop/rap. They meet all of the qualifications. And they meet essentially none of the rock qualifications.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:23 PM
BB transcend genre, that's what sets them apart.

Lol. Fair enough.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:29 PM
No such genre as Alternative Metal. Trust me. I will cut a ho.
I still maintain that the Beastie Boys are hip-hop/rap. They meet all of the qualifications. And they meet essentially none of the rock qualifications.

Then I don't know where you are looking. Alternative Metal is a genre. I know people who are listed in said genre. Five Finger Death Punch, Korn, Disturbed, Tool, Slipknot. If they meet all qualifications for hip/hop and none for Rock, then why have they so many rock awards. Why are they played all the time on Rock stations as opposed who a few songs once in a great while on rap stations and why are they always listed as Rock? Just the industry playing jokes on us? You may consider them Hip Hop, but they are not. They are Rap/Rock. Which would fall under the Alternative Rock catagory. Same as Linkin Park and POD. Are they different. Yes. But they have the same principles just as Slipknot and Tool and Korn. All Nu Metal. All different sounds.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:32 PM
Then I don't know where you are looking. Alternative Metal is a genre. I know people who are listed in said genre. Five Finger Death Punch, Korn, Disturbed, Tool, Slipknot. If they meet all qualifications for hip/hop and none for Rock, then why have they so many rock awards. Why are they played all the time on Rock stations as opposed who a few songs once in a great while on rap stations and why are they always listed as Rock? Just the industry playing jokes on us? You may consider them Hip Hop, but they are not. They are Rap/Rock. Which would fall under the Alternative Rock catagory. Same as Linkin Park and POD. Are they different. Yes. But they have the same principles just as Slipknot and Tool and Korn. All Nu Metal. All different sounds.

Not saying Beastie Boys is Nu Metal. Refering to them as Alternative Rock. Same as all the other bands. There is no metal in them. Just wanted to clarify.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:36 PM
Then I don't know where you are looking. Alternative Metal is a genre. I know people who are listed in said genre. Five Finger Death Punch, Korn, Disturbed, Tool, Slipknot. If they meet all qualifications for hip/hop and none for Rock, then why have they so many rock awards. Why are they played all the time on Rock stations as opposed who a few songs once in a great while on rap stations and why are they always listed as Rock? Just the industry playing jokes on us? You may consider them Hip Hop, but they are not. They are Rap/Rock. Which would fall under the Alternative Rock catagory. Same as Linkin Park and POD. Are they different. Yes. But they have the same principles just as Slipknot and Tool and Korn. All Nu Metal. All different sounds.
None of those "alternative metal" bands are metal at all. They don't play the scales, modes or time signatures indicative of metal music. Metal is, contrary to popular belief, not simply "harder hard rock."

As for Beasties being rock, well they don't employ rock instrumentation for one (that's a biggie). They have a number of samples with guitars featured, but there's almost never a rock rhythm section on a Beastie Boys song. The Beastie Boys have won Grammys for pop instrumental album and alternative music album (a very, very vague catagory). What rock awards have they won?

scott free
10-22-2009, 05:40 PM
What a pointless argument, everyone trying to quantify, classify, once & for all categorize music/art.

Beasties cross all lines...from a marketing standpoint, from most fans standpoint, from any standpoint. Period.

What pretentious bullshit.

Pestilence
10-22-2009, 05:41 PM
Are you 17 years old?

No....I just don't like their shit.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:41 PM
What a pointless argument, everyone trying to quantify, classify, once & for all categorize music/art.

Beasties cross all lines...from a marketing standpoint, from most fans standpoint, from any standpoint. Period.

What pretentious bullshit.
They do not cross all lines, sir. You would not say that the Beastie Boys play anything close to bluegrass, say.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:42 PM
None of those "alternative metal" bands are metal at all. They don't play the scales, modes or time signatures indicative of metal music. Metal is, contrary to popular belief, not simply "harder hard rock."

As for Beasties being rock, well they don't employ rock instrumentation for one (that's a biggie). They have a number of samples with guitars featured, but there's almost never a rock rhythm section on a Beastie Boys song. The Beastie Boys have won Grammys for pop instrumental album and alternative music album (a very, very vague catagory). What rock awards have they won?

Best Rock song. And such bands are listed as Metal. Like I said before, Alternative metal and Nu metal. You will find everyone of them in Metal Edge magazine. I have met several people in said bands and similar. All considered, by those in the Industry, not your brain, to be Alternative Metal and Nu Metal. Hell, My roommate is in one and all they do is play with like bands. And Craig Goldie, most certainly considers them an off shoot of metal. To say they are Metal is incorrect. To say they are Nu Metal or key word "ALTERNATIVE" Metal is very much so correct.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:45 PM
Unfortunately a pesky little band called Korn had to come out and start their own genre that mixes, METAL, hip hop, ska, and rock elements. Hence the term Nu Metal.

Pablo
10-22-2009, 05:45 PM
Guys, I don't like the Beastie Boys that much. Sorry to offend some of you. That's probably because I'm 23; not 33...or 43. They don't appeal to me and never have. Never will. I don't find their lyrics particularly intelligent or engaging; and I'll never to be a fan of cheesy/cartoony beats. Which is also why I don't really like some of Eminem's comical songs.

Just not my thing. Sure, they have longevity going for them; but that really doesn't color my personal opinion as I wasn't old enough to listen to most of their "good" music.

Eminem is a far superior lyricist; and that's what I'm most interested in when I listen to rap/hip-hop. And as far as Sammy Kershaw goes; if loving Sammy is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

scott free
10-22-2009, 05:45 PM
They do not cross all lines, sir. You would not say that the Beastie Boys play anything close to bluegrass, say.

I'm going to assume that you're smart enough to know what i meant.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:46 PM
Best Rock song. And such bands are listed as Metal. Like I said before, Alternative metal and Nu metal. You will find everyone of them in Metal Edge magazine. I have met several people in said bands and similar. All considered, by those in the Industry, not your brain, to be Alternative Metal and Nu Metal. Hell, My roommate is in one and all they do is play with like bands. And Craig Goldie, most certainly considers them an off shoot of metal. To say they are Metal is incorrect. To say they are Nu Metal or key word "ALTERNATIVE" Metal is very much so correct.
Nu metal is not metal though, its strictly hard rock with some hip hop influence if you analyze the music theory. Nu metal is not a subgenre of metal, it is a subgenre of rock.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:49 PM
Best Rock song.
Link? Or just the name of the institution that gave out that award?

JASONSAUTO
10-22-2009, 05:49 PM
Guys, I don't like the Beastie Boys that much. Sorry to offend some of you. That's probably because I'm 23; not 33...or 43. They don't appeal to me and never have. Never will. I don't find their lyrics particularly intelligent or engaging; and I'll never to be a fan of cheesy/cartoony beats. Which is also why I don't really like some of Eminem's comical songs.

Just not my thing. Sure, they have longevity going for them; but that really doesn't color my personal opinion as I wasn't old enough to listen to most of their "good" music.

Eminem is a far superior lyricist; and that's what I'm most interested in when I listen to rap/hip-hop. And as far as Sammy Kershaw goes; if loving Sammy is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

you know i dont really like the beastie boys either, and i love rap always have, but i grew up in the ghetto and like the harder stuff. the BBs always were like joke rap to me. and i'm older than 23 by a ways

Pablo
10-22-2009, 05:51 PM
you know i dont really like the beastie boys either, and i love rap always have, but i grew up in the ghetto and like the harder stuff. the BBs always were like joke rap to me.Yeah, I like darker material, hence my thorough enjoyment of The Marshall Mathers LP. Cheesy Em isn't really my thing. Which is why the BB aren't my thing.

Except for Sabotage. I'll give them that song.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:51 PM
Nu metal is not metal though, its strictly hard rock with some hip hop influence if you analyze the music theory. Nu metal is not a subgenre of metal, it is a subgenre of rock.

Metal is a subgenre of rock. It all starts at a point, rock being said point. As I said it does have metal in it. As well as hard rock, hip hop and ska. Hence the term Nu or NEW for those that aren't following along. No one said it was an offshoot of metal. If I came across that way I am sorry. Metal is an offshoot of Rock. So is Nu Metal. Its like Resident Evil the movie. 2 strands of the same DNA on parallel paths. But it is an Alternative to metal because it has relation to it. Its its cousin if you will.

SDChiefs
10-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Link? Or just the name of the institution that gave out that award?

I can't remember if it was MTV or a Grammy. Im thinking MTV they became the first to get best rock song and best rap song from the same album. Intergalactic and Body Movin IIRC.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:54 PM
Metal is a subgenre of rock. It all starts at a point, rock being said point. As I said it does have metal in it. As well as hard rock, hip hop and ska. Hence the term Nu or NEW for those that aren't following along. No one said it was an offshoot of metal. If I came across that way I am sorry. Metal is an offshoot of Rock. So is Nu Metal. Its like Resident Evil the movie. 2 strands of the same DNA on parallel paths. But it is an Alternative to metal because it has relation to it. Its its cousin if you will.
You're wrong about metal. Its most-influenced by rock, sure, but it isn't a clean subgenre. Metal is essentially equal parts divined from rock, jazz and classical. Which is really evident when you look at the music theory. Rock gets a slight edge in the influence amount for using rock instrumentation and general guitar tone.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 05:59 PM
I can't remember if it was MTV or a Grammy. Im thinking MTV they became the first to get best rock song and best rap song from the same album. Intergalactic and Body Movin IIRC.
I couldn't find any record of the Beasties winning a rock Grammy or VMA.

Blindside58
10-22-2009, 06:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBZYBL0KYdI

Like Jimmy Walker I am DYN-O-MITE!

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 06:09 PM
Because I'm intercontinental when I eat French toast.

Ebolapox
10-22-2009, 07:24 PM
what, bubba sparxxx wants none of this fight?

thurman merman
10-22-2009, 08:03 PM
atmosphere is better than eminem now. eminem was better than atmosphere 5-10 years ago.

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 08:08 PM
I voted for Em, but I enjoy all three.

luv
10-22-2009, 08:09 PM
I thought the guy from Atmosphere was hispanic.

Either way, I'd have to choose Eminem, hands down.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 08:11 PM
I love me some BB but probably because of my age.

I am more of a rock fan in music preference. Probably anothe reason I like BB since they use a lot of Zepplin beats and riffs.

People discussing some rappers being better lyricist than others crack me up, its all stupid shit not to be taken seriously.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 08:13 PM
People discussing some rappers being better lyricist than others crack me up, its all stupid shit not to be taken seriously.
Get the fuck out of here. Leave, you fuckfuck.

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 08:16 PM
Hey fellas, did you know rap rhymes with crap???

Durrr

Rausch
10-22-2009, 08:18 PM
I voted for Em, but I enjoy all three.

We are no longer friends...

luv
10-22-2009, 08:20 PM
I love me some BB but probably because of my age.



How old are you?

And how are rap lyrics different than rock lyrics? Both tend to rhyme and tell stories.

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 08:21 PM
We are no longer friends...Sorry man.

luv
10-22-2009, 08:21 PM
We are no longer friends...

And I know you didn't vote Atmosphere. You referred to them as country rap on the way to the bash last year.

You went BB. Wait. You don't even like rap. WTF are you doing in here?

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 08:24 PM
Get the **** out of here. Leave, you ********.

I find that funny.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 08:31 PM
How old are you?

And how are rap lyrics different than rock lyrics? Both tend to rhyme and tell stories.

I am 38.

Even though I play music I listen to lyrics in music as much as anything and I haven't found too many rap songs that grabbed my attention lyrically unless it was just fun stuff, which I have no issue with. All music does not have to be taken seriously.

Listen to a song like One Thing by Finger Eleven and tell me what rap song has that type of feeling and really tells the story in the same way.

A also don't thing rap music can build tension in a song the way some rock songs can. My opinion.

Again it's a matter of choice. I don't have issue with people liking stuff I don't. I just don't get it. The same way people may not get what I like.

luv
10-22-2009, 08:34 PM
I am 38.

Even though I play music I listen to lyrics in music as much as anything and I haven't found too many rap songs that grabbed my attention lyrically unless it was just fun stuff, which I have no issue with. All music does not have to be taken seriously.

Listen to a song like One Thing by Finger Eleven and tell me what rap song has that type of feeling and really tells the story in the same way.

A also don't thing rap music can build tension in a song the way some rock songs can. My opinion.

Again it's a matter of choice. I don't have issue with people liking stuff I don't. I just don't get it. The same way people may not get what I like.

Is it really the lyrics that build tension, or is it the music (guitar riffs, drum solos, etc)?

Not saying I disagree with anything you're saying. I'm a fan of most genres. Best song ever written, IMO, was American Pie.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 08:44 PM
Is it really the lyrics that build tension, or is it the music (guitar riffs, drum solos, etc)?

Not saying I disagree with anything you're saying. I'm a fan of most genres. Best song ever written, IMO, was American Pie.

Well, it's a combination of music and lyrics IMO.

For example (and I may get flamed for this this but I don't care) there is an old song by AC/DC called Live Wire.

It's a very simple song to play musically but the dynamics of the music and vocals build the song to a point where the tension IMO is huge by the end of the song.

It builds, and builds and builds while doing very little different in chord structure. It's the dynamic of the song that gets it going.

Again just my opinion. Someone like Reaper will think I am a simpleton for using something like old AC/DC to make my point but it rings true.

Another thing I would wonder is if in a live show environment rap has the same energy you can get in a rock show. I ask that without ever going to a live rap show but somehow I have to doubt it has the same energy as great tube amped stringed instruments , huge drums and screaming vocals.

Again that's just my opinion.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 08:45 PM
I am 38.

Even though I play music I listen to lyrics in music as much as anything and I haven't found too many rap songs that grabbed my attention lyrically unless it was just fun stuff, which I have no issue with. All music does not have to be taken seriously.

Listen to a song like One Thing by Finger Eleven and tell me what rap song has that type of feeling and really tells the story in the same way.

A also don't thing rap music can build tension in a song the way some rock songs can. My opinion.

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You are REFUTED, sir. REFUTED.

88TG88
10-22-2009, 08:48 PM
bea

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 08:48 PM
Well, it's a combination of music and lyrics IMO.

For example (and I may get flamed for this this but I don't care) there is an old song by AC/DC called Live Wire.

It's a very simple song to play musically but the dynamics of the music and vocals build the song to a point where the tension IMO is huge by the end of the song.

It builds, and builds and builds while doing very little different in chord structure. It's the dynamic of the song that gets it going.

Again just my opinion. Someone like Reaper will think I am a simpleton for using something like old AC/DC to make my point but it rings true.

Another thing I would wonder is if in a live show environment rap has the same energy you can get in a rock show. I ask that without ever going to a live rap show but somehow I have to doubt it has the same energy as great tube amped stringed instruments , huge drums and screaming vocals.

Again that's just my opinion.
I don't think that at all. You speak well about rock music but ignorantly about rap, that's all.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 08:53 PM
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You are REFUTED, sir. REFUTED.

I will give you credit there is tension in that, still not my thing. I may be ignorant on rap but most but not all I have heard doesn't do it for me. It doesn't move me like a good rock song.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 08:59 PM
I will give you credit there is tension in that, still not my thing. I may be ignorant on rap but most but not all I have heard doesn't do it for me. It doesn't move me like a good rock song.
Not just tension but AMAZING lyrics; definitely not just "silly stuff" as you previously dismissed the genre to be about.

Whether you like to listen to it or not is a different matter than no one can argue with you about.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 09:01 PM
Also -- note for posterity that it was I who first called someone a "fuckfuck."

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 09:03 PM
I will give you credit there is tension in that, still not my thing. I may be ignorant on rap but most but not all I have heard doesn't do it for me. It doesn't move me like a good rock song.That's just a matter of taste. Nothing wrong with that.

Just understand that not everyone shares your tastes.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 09:10 PM
Not just tension but AMAZING lyrics; definitely not just "silly stuff" as you previously dismissed the genre to be about.

Whether you like to listen to it or not is a different matter than no one can argue with you about.

Well I may be wrong once again but I guess I am stereotyping a type of music. I think the vast majority of rap music does not have the dynamic or lyrical content of the video you posted.

Granted, thinking about it there is a shit ton of Rock that has shit lyrics and no dynamic involved as well. I don't like all rock either.

I suppose rap is like rock where as you like some and despise others.

Send me the specific songs by artist of the rap music you like and I will give it a listen.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 09:11 PM
That's just a matter of taste. Nothing wrong with that.

Just understand that not everyone shares your tastes.

I fully understand that and have stated it.

But I still love me some BB.

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 09:13 PM
Well I may be wrong once again but I guess I am stereotyping a type of music. I think the vast majority of rap music does not have the dynamic or lyrical content of the video you posted.

Granted, thinking about it there is a shit ton of Rock that has shit lyrics and no dynamic involved as well. I don't like all rock either.

I suppose rap is like rock where as you like some and despise others.

Send me the specific songs by artist of the rap music you like and I will give it a listen.
You're exactly right when you suspect that there is a lot of shitty, worthless music in both rap and rock. And there are vital, important artists in both genres, too.

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 09:13 PM
I fully understand that and have stated it.

But I still love me some BB.Me too, man... me too.

salame
10-22-2009, 09:14 PM
I kind of like atmosphere
and I LOVED eminem when I was like 15

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 09:15 PM
Hilarious side-story: I thought that we had reached a nice place of mutual niceties just now, so I was seconds away from giving you a positive rep to make up for the angry neg rep I gave you earlier. But then I saw that you had returned the neg rep favor AFTER we came to a nice understanding. Hilarious timing.

88TG88
10-22-2009, 09:16 PM
bea

stie

Reaper16
10-22-2009, 09:18 PM
stie
toys

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 09:22 PM
Hilarious side-story: I thought that we had reached a nice place of mutual niceties just now, so I was seconds away from giving you a positive rep to make up for the angry neg rep I gave you earlier. But then I saw that you had returned the neg rep favor AFTER we came to a nice understanding. Hilarious timing.

Damn, I was at the same point.
Alright. Pos rep to make up.

Marcellus
10-22-2009, 09:23 PM
Ah shit, wont let me. Back at you later.

luv
10-22-2009, 09:25 PM
Hilarious side-story: I thought that we had reached a nice place of mutual niceties just now, so I was seconds away from giving you a positive rep to make up for the angry neg rep I gave you earlier. But then I saw that you had returned the neg rep favor AFTER we came to a nice understanding. Hilarious timing.

Damn, I was at the same point.
Alright. Pos rep to make up.

:grouphug:

luv
10-22-2009, 09:26 PM
I kind of like atmosphere
and I LOVED eminem when I was like 15

So, you're, like, 20 now?

thurman merman
10-22-2009, 09:29 PM
And how are rap lyrics different than rock lyrics?

rap lyrics are 1000000 times harder to write.

KcMizzou
10-22-2009, 09:35 PM
rap lyrics are 1000000 times harder to write.GOOD rap lyrics have to kinda... stand on their own.

DaKernal
10-22-2009, 09:45 PM
Slim Shady fucking wrecks the beasties or any other white rapper, and honestly in my opinion is second to no one except Pac and Biggie

88TG88
10-22-2009, 10:14 PM
Slim Shady fucking wrecks the beasties or any other white rapper, and honestly in my opinion is second to no one except Pac and Biggie

Nasty Nas , imo, is better than shady. He has fewer "sellout" songs than em.

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 10:34 PM
what, bubba sparxxx wants none of this fight?

JES
US

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 10:38 PM
I will give you credit there is tension in that, still not my thing. I may be ignorant on rap but most but not all I have heard doesn't do it for me. It doesn't move me like a good rock song.

your opinion sucks. No one can grab me by the balls like a Wu Tang song, or em song. WU TANG WILL SLICE YOU UP, and days later you will be asking yourself WTF did I just hear. Maybe it's just because I am from the streets.

J
town playa!

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 10:43 PM
They do not cross all lines, sir. You would not say that the Beastie Boys play anything close to bluegrass, say.Um...

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Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 10:44 PM
yeah i knew there was a bluegrass song on the beasties cd but it just a throw away track because they are goofballs

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 10:51 PM
yeah i knew there was a bluegrass song on the beasties cd but it just a throw away track because they are goofballsOh, I thought you said "anything."

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 10:54 PM
Oh, I thought you said "anything."

I don't know what this means, but when reaper said something about them not being mistaken for bluegrass. I immediately remembered that song you posted

Thig Lyfe
10-22-2009, 10:55 PM
BB transcend genre, that's what sets them apart.

This.

I can see where their voices might annoy some people, and their really early stuff can be kind of grating, but once they settled into a creative groove and grew out of being a novelty act, they became one of the most revolutionary and inventive bands in the history of American music.

What's everybody's favorite Beasties album? Mine's actually Hello Nasty (all due respect to Paul's Boutique, which is definitely one of the best hip-hop albums ever). Just fun to listen to from beginning to end.

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 10:59 PM
I don't know what this means, but when reaper said something about them not being mistaken for bluegrass. I immediately remembered that song you postedMy bad for the mistake. However, nothing on Paul's should be considered a "throw away."

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 11:01 PM
This.

I can see where their voices might annoy some people, and their really early stuff can be kind of grating, but once they settled into a creative groove and grew out of being a novelty act, they became one of the most revolutionary and inventive bands in the history of American music.

What's everybody's favorite Beasties album? Mine's actually Hello Nasty (all due respect to Paul's Boutique, which is definitely one of the best hip-hop albums ever). Just fun to listen to from beginning to end.I'm glad someone really likes Hello Nasty. I preordered that album through their website and got a cool fridge magnet but never really caught on to the album. I liked a few tracks, but it wasn't as good as their other stuff, IMO.

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 11:02 PM
My bad for the mistake. However, nothing on Paul's should be considered a "throw away."

advice taken

Demonpenz
10-22-2009, 11:02 PM
I love hello nasty. I am glad they play that shit on alt stations too. Nothing like getting pinched in the neck by mr spock!

patteeu
10-22-2009, 11:18 PM
I don't know what this means, but when reaper said something about them not being mistaken for bluegrass. I immediately remembered that song you posted

Uh, that's not bluegrass, it's a derivative of alternative hillbilly country which is completely different than bluegrass based on the way they pick the banjo with 5 fingers instead of four as well as the heavy reliance on irregular backbeats. /reaper :p

Pitt Gorilla
10-22-2009, 11:19 PM
Uh, that's not bluegrass, it's a derivative of alternative hillbilly country which is completely different than bluegrass based on the way they pick the banjo with 5 fingers instead of four as well as the heavy reliance on irregular backbeats. /reaper :pROFL

patteeu
10-22-2009, 11:28 PM
I voted BB. I don't really pay all that much attention to the lyrics in most of the music that I listen to so maybe that takes away from Eminem's appeal. That's not to say that I don't like Eminem, it's just that I like the Beasties' sound better. For the most part, vocals are just another sound producing instrument for me.

Rhyming is good...

Getting the right number of syllables to fit the cadence of the song is a plus...

Tone/melody is important...

A clever phrase here and there is appreciated...

But I usually don't understand, much less care about, whatever deep message the artist is trying to convey.

Reaper16
10-23-2009, 12:13 AM
yeah i knew there was a bluegrass song on the beasties cd but it just a throw away track because they are goofballs
Exactly. That's be like saying rappers can be classified as comedians because of a comedy skit track on their albums.