Obama least Presidential of recent Presidents

[petegz28]

It has become painfully obvious Obama is more interested in trash talking and campaign rhetoric rather than sounding Presidential. It gets very annoying when this guy speaks when he continues with a tone that is more of one who is ab athlete getting ready for a game as opposed to the leader of the most powerful country in the world. "I'm not tired, I'm just getting started" and the like is campaign talk, not Presidential speak. I find it hard for anyone to be able to deny this.

This isn't a game, this isn't Chicago thugery. We are talking about the President of the United States of American. His constant one liners and attempts at tough talk are beneath past Presidents. Including Bush Jr. and Bill Clinton. In fact, Bill Clinton always sounded Presidential when he spoke. Obama sounds like he is getting ready for a Sunday on the football field. I dare say, he has too much of a street mentality when it comes to him giving speeches. He sounds more like Jesse Jackson than a President. And for a man who claims to be the one to unite Americans, he is very disrespectful to those who disagree with him. I don't mean his Admin sycophants. I mean him.

He seems to think he is Obama and the world should bow. I don't know if he is trying to mold his talk after MLK's "I have a dream", but it seems every time he talks it has more of that tone than of one who is in charge.

Regardless of policies or whatever, the man needs to start acting like a President and speaking like one. Not like a prize fighter or football player.

[Reaper16]

It has become painfully obvious Obama is more interested in trash talking and campaign rhetoric rather than sounding Presidential. It gets very annoying when this guy speaks when he continues with a tone that is more of one who is ab athlete getting ready for a game as opposed to the leader of the most powerful country in the world. "I'm not tired, I'm just getting started" and the like is campaign talk, not Presidential speak. I find it hard for anyone to be able to deny this.

This isn't a game, this isn't Chicago thugery. We are talking about the President of the United States of American. His constant one liners and attempts at tough talk are beneath past Presidents. Including Bush Jr. and Bill Clinton. In fact, Bill Clinton always sounded Presidential when he spoke. Obama sounds like he is getting ready for a Sunday on the football field. I dare say, he has too much of a street mentality when it comes to him giving speeches. He sounds more like Jesse Jackson than a President. And for a man who claims to be the one to unite Americans, he is very disrespectful to those who disagree with him. I don't mean his Admin sycophants. I mean him.

He seems to think he is Obama and the world should bow. I don't know if he is trying to mold his talk after MLK's "I have a dream", but it seems every time he talks it has more of that tone than of one who is in charge.

Regardless of policies or whatever, the man needs to start acting like a President and speaking like one. Not like a prize fighter or football player.
That. Just. Happened.

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That. Just. Happened.

RACIST!!!

[petegz28]

That. Just. Happened.

Shanke and Bake, mother fucker!

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[Reaper16]

Shanke and Bake, mother fucker!

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What was the occasion for that clip? He was speaking to what seemed like a pretty partisan crowd. It sounded like an informal sort of event where an informal tone was appropriate but I can't say for sure until I know for what reason he was speaking then.

[petegz28]

What was the occasion for that clip? He was speaking to what seemed like a pretty partisan crowd. It sounded like an informal sort of event where an informal tone was appropriate but I can't say for sure until I know for what reason he was speaking then.

It was a Town Hall meeting. And really it doesn't matter. Is the man the President, running for President or an activist?

[Reaper16]

It was a Town Hall meeting. And really it doesn't matter. Is the man the President, running for President or an activist?
I don't see the tone as being unfit for the President to use. Its informal and personable, sure, but I don't see those as negative things necessarily.

[petegz28]

I don't see the tone as being unfit for the President to use. Its informal and personable, sure, but I don't see those as negative things necessarily.

That's cause young pups like you have no idea what Presidential means, I am afraid.

[alnorth]

This reverential holiness some people seem to want the president to live up to doesnt exist anywhere else. Not even in GB, and not in the USA before around the depression. For a while there (if you look at history), the president wasnt even seen as a particularly important topic of conversation.

We didnt even bother protecting them until we started losing a few to some nutcases and had to add another responsibility to the guys who were just in charge of looking into counterfeit money.

He's a powerful politician and perhaps our chief diplomat. Nothing more. All things and politics being equal (obviously they never are), I'd rather have a guy who is comfortable enough with his image to be casual outside the most formal of settings rather than someone figuratively always looking at the mirror obsessively trying to adhere to a certain image.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Remember during the campaign when he tried to distance himself from Bill Ayers? And gullible jackasses believed his BS and voted for him anyway? And then he hires ON OUR DIME scumbags worse than Ayers like Jennings and Van Jones. But wait, it gets even more absurd, let's pretend their is any integrity to a "green jobs czar" (I mean, what the fuck is that??? Does anybody know?)...

What qualifications did Van Jones bring to the table?

O-Bots can you stop pretending the jackass you sucked off and continue to suck off, that greasy turd shit out of Mayor Daley's ass in Chicago, B.O. is not a communist? If you dig communism, great, just admit. Stop with the BS.

[petegz28]

The Town Hall is just an example. He has had this tone in his formal addresses as well. And saying things like "I will not tolerate...". I am sorry, the man comes off more as a dictator and trash talker than a President. Perhaps it is just a sign of how much our education system sucks compared to the past? I don't know. I just don't think the man tends to come off as Presidential as he does confrontational, cocky and activist.

[Reaper16]

Remember during the campaign when he tried to distance himself from Bill Ayers? And gullible jackasses believed his BS and voted for him anyway? And then he hires ON OUR DIME scumbags worse than Ayers like Jennings and Van Jones. But wait, it gets even more absurd, let's pretend their is any integrity to a "green jobs czar" (I mean, what the fuck is that??? Does anybody know?)...

What qualifications did Van Jones bring to the table?

I would think that a green jobs czar is someone who, by authority of the executive branch that the office is a part of, works closely with government agencies to coordinate the development and implementation of environmentally sustainable policies and consequent positions of employment.
Van Jones was the founder of an green jobs organization and the author of a book advocating green jobs, so it appears that he was imminently qualified.

[stevieray]

Van Jones was the founder of an green jobs organization and the author of a book advocating green jobs, so it appears that he was imminently qualified.
ya, except that "we're gonna change the whole system" rant...

[SHTSPRAYER]

I would think that a green jobs czar is someone who, by authority of the executive branch that the office is a part of, works closely with government agencies to coordinate the development and implementation of environmentally sustainable policies and consequent positions of employment.
Van Jones was the founder of an green jobs organization and the author of a book advocating green jobs, so it appears that he was imminently qualified.

Gee, that's swell, stooge boy.

Name one example. This is like that other moron Formica Jones and his "go to the library and see".

[petegz28]

I would think that a green jobs czar is someone who, by authority of the executive branch that the office is a part of, works closely with government agencies to coordinate the development and implementation of environmentally sustainable policies and consequent positions of employment.
Van Jones was the founder of an green jobs organization and the author of a book advocating green jobs, so it appears that he was imminently qualified.

Horseshit.

[Reaper16]

ya, except that "we're gonna change the whole system" rant...
Yes. That stands apart from what are his objective qualifications for the position.

Gee, that's swell, stooge boy.

Name one example. This is like that other moron Formica Jones and his "go to the library and see".
One example of what? I was just answering that question.

Horseshit.
What?

[petegz28]

Yes. That stands apart from what are his objective qualifications for the position.


One example of what? I was just answering that question.


What?

So every Tom, Dick and Reaper that starts an organization and writes a book is qualified to run something for the entire country regardless of their other issues?

[Direckshun]

What does it mean to be "presidential"?

[Reaper16]

So every Tom, Dick and Reaper that starts an organization and writes a book is qualified to run something for the entire country regardless of their other issues?
Well, it was a very influential book. And the organization was a leading one in the field.

[Reaper16]

What does it mean to be "presidential"?
Don't use the word "I;" it makes you sound like you're from the street.

[petegz28]

What does it mean to be "presidential"?

I am not surprised in the least that you of all people would ask that.

[petegz28]

Well, it was a very influential book. And the organization was a leading one in the field.

In what field? There are all kinds of "influential books". It still does not qualify him to run something for a country that he obviously did not like.

[Reaper16]

In what field? There are all kinds of "influential books". It still does not qualify him to run something for a country that he obviously did not like.
The green jobs field. Environmentally sustainable jobs.

[SHTSPRAYER]

What does it mean to be "presidential"?

Dunno, but it's a safe bet we can rule out TOTUS.

[SHTSPRAYER]

The green jobs field. Environmentally sustainable jobs.

Name a green job. Who has one? Where are these "green jobs" and why do we need a "czar" for green jobs?

[SHTSPRAYER]

Did anybody even read that f'n book? I doubt it. Just more moonbat BS.

[petegz28]

The green jobs field. Environmentally sustainable jobs.

Define "envrionmentally sustainable jobs" and contrast that to unsustainable.

[petegz28]

Just in case someone wants a "Green Job", here you go.

http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/greendreamjobs.main/state/0/country/0/category/0/level/0?page=1

Seems a background in anything from Computers to Marketing to Sales constitute a "Green Job".

[SHTSPRAYER]

Define "envrionmentally sustainable jobs" and contrast that to unsustainable.

He's speed reading Wikepedia right now.

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[Reaper16]

Name a green job. Who has one? Where are these "green jobs" and why do we need a "czar" for green jobs?
Those are fair questions. I doubt that many people would dispute that jobs in environmental sustainability are a bad thing, but the disputing the need for an Executive office concerning policy towards this end is a fair dispute. I would argue in favor of the office but I'm still one of those bozos who believes in man-made warming.

Define "envrionmentally sustainable jobs" and contrast that to unsustainable.
I mean two things. One: jobs that are sustainable with respect to the environment; jobs that don't negatively impact the environment, that don't use resources that it can't replenish. But more accurately, Two: jobs in the sector of environmental sustainability. Jobs that are involved in preserving environmental quality or that use natural resources in such a way that is "responsible." Think about solar or wind energy jobs -- those are green jobs.

[InChiefsHell]

What does it mean to be "presidential"?

In my opinion, to be presidential is to be representative of an entire nation. Not to talk about yourself more than you talk about the country. We not I. After all he is supposed to be the leader of the nation, not the leader of a movement. BO acts and sounds like a cheerleader and a narcissistic one at that. He can't help but talk about HIMSELF and what HE is going to do and what the world expects of HIM.

JMO. BO does not sound like a president. He sounds like a community organizer...

...oh wait...

[petegz28]

Those are fair questions. I doubt that many people would dispute that jobs in environmental sustainability are a bad thing, but the disputing the need for an Executive office concerning policy towards this end is a fair dispute. I would argue in favor of the office but I'm still one of those bozos who believes in man-made warming.


I mean two things. One: jobs that are sustainable with respect to the environment; jobs that don't negatively impact the environment, that don't use resources that it can't replenish. But more accurately, Two: jobs in the sector of environmental sustainability. Jobs that are involved in preserving environmental quality or that use natural resources in such a way that is "responsible." Think about solar or wind energy jobs -- those are green jobs.

So you think labor won't be outsourced and such in that industry the same as it is in every other? The biggest myth right now is that of the "creation of sustainable green jobs". We do not need a "Green Jobs Czar". that is just plain idiotic.

But since we are on the topic of Czars, the sheer numer of Czars, let alone their appointed titles, lends little the credibility of Obama as President and more to Obama the Dictator.

[petegz28]

In my opinion, to be presidential is to be representative of an entire nation. Not to talk about yourself more than you talk about the country. We not I. After all he is supposed to be the leader of the nation, not the leader of a movement. BO acts and sounds like a cheerleader and a narcissistic one at that. He can't help but talk about HIMSELF and what HE is going to do and what the world expects of HIM.

JMO. BO does not sound like a president. He sounds like a community organizer...

...oh wait...

Well said. The man who says he would unite us is doing more to divide us than anything.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Think about solar or wind energy jobs -- those are green jobs.

So "solar or wind energy jobs" need a "czar"? And Van Jones is the most qualified person for this this... whatever it is?

This is why I call you people moonbats.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Well said. The man who says he would unite us is doing more to divide us than anything.

Of course he is. He's a communist.

Interesting link I found googling green jobs myth:

http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/morriss-green-jobs-myths.pdf

[InChiefsHell]

I wonder when he will appoint a "Czar" czar...you know, a single point of contact that controls all those underlings who were not elected and just answer to that one guy...like a dictator type person...

...oh...wait...

[SHTSPRAYER]

I wonder when he will appoint a "Czar" czar...you know, a single point of contact that controls all those underlings who were not elected and just answer to that one guy...like a dictator type person...

...oh...wait...

It's funny. It's absurd. It's insane.

It's also serious

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2368946/posts

[Reaper16]

So you think labor won't be outsourced and such in that industry the same as it is in every other? The biggest myth right now is that of the "creation of sustainable green jobs". We do not need a "Green Jobs Czar". that is just plain idiotic.
These sound like tough jobs to outsource.

But since we are on the topic of Czars, the sheer numer of Czars, let alone their appointed titles, lends little the credibility of Obama as President and more to Obama the Dictator.
I believe that there is only one more czar right now under Obama than there were under W. Bush (though Obama has plans for, I think, three more positions).

[SHTSPRAYER]

These sound like tough jobs to outsource.




Of course, they don't exist.

[petegz28]

These sound like tough jobs to outsource.


I believe that there is only one more czar right now under Obama than there were under W. Bush (though Obama has plans for, I think, three more positions).

How so? How are they tough to outsource? You think they can't bring in computer guys from India just because it is a "Green Job"?

[Reaper16]

How so? How are they tough to outsource? You think they can't bring in computer guys from India just because it is a "Green Job"?
I'm thinking about the more local-centered jobs that could arise. Ones focused on the specific, local environment.

[SHTSPRAYER]

I'm thinking about the more local-centered jobs that could arise. Ones focused on the specific, local environment.

You're thinking government jobs.

[petegz28]

I'm thinking about the more local-centered jobs that could arise. Ones focused on the specific, local environment.

So then basically the job creation is minimal at best,

[Reaper16]

You're thinking government jobs.
In [large]part, probably, yeah.

So then basically the job creation is minimal at best,
That's fair.

[Pioli Zombie]

I love whiney, subjective viewpoints like this. Liberals said the same thing about W. If you don't like the guy you're not going to like his style. Not matter what he does or says you won't like it, we get it.
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[petegz28]

I love whiney, subjective viewpoints like this. Liberals said the same thing about W. If you don't like the guy you're not going to like his style. Not matter what he does or says you won't like it, we get it.
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Actually I commended Obama on his speaking ability and style during his campaign. Now it is time to be President and not the guy running for President.

[InChiefsHell]

I love whiney, subjective viewpoints like this. Liberals said the same thing about W. If you don't like the guy you're not going to like his style. Not matter what he does or says you won't like it, we get it.
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Actually, there is a LOT of truth to that. I remember reading the vitriolic hatred for Bush from the left, and just not being able to understand it and thinking that you lefties were just petty haters. Now the tables are turned, and we on the right are being thought of in this way. I finally can honestly say I know what you lefties felt like during the Bush years.

Having said that, Obama sucks. Thank you.

[SHTSPRAYER]

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