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pr_capone
10-22-2009, 11:41 PM
Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to design a car where you have to take half the front end apart to change a fucking headlight?

All that and I still could not get the headlight bulb changed because the damn headlight would not come out!!!

Really guys... something that burns out like clock work should be much more easily accessible than this. It's a fucking joke.

I will never again buy a Dodge Stratus.

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Baconeater
10-22-2009, 11:46 PM
You shouldn't need to pull the whole headlight out to change the bulb, you should be able to access it from the engine compartment.

CoMoChief
10-22-2009, 11:49 PM
Did you make sure there was enough head light fluid in the lighting chamber?

pr_capone
10-22-2009, 11:52 PM
You shouldn't need to pull the whole headlight out to change the bulb, you should be able to access it from the engine compartment.

One would think that would be the case. Had anyone other than a brain damaged moron designed this, I would agree with you. Apparently Dodge hires middle school drop outs to design the front end of their vehicles.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5323/28364667.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/28364667.jpg/)

Baconeater
10-22-2009, 11:58 PM
Huh, that's strange. I haven't ran across that in any of the Dodges I have now or any in the past. Although now that I think about it, I seem to recall having to do something like that in the wife's old Camry, but I'm not sure if it was the headlight bulb or the side marker light I had to replace. I remember having to pry with quite a bit of force to get the headlight out, enough so that I was worried about breaking the damn thing, that sucker was in there tight.

Hog Farmer
10-23-2009, 12:02 AM
Wait until you get a flat tire. Yuo've got to drop the transmission just to change the damn thing.

HoneyBadger
10-23-2009, 12:03 AM
I hope you dont wonder why they are always filing for bankruptcy

pr_capone
10-23-2009, 12:03 AM
Huh, that's strange. I haven't ran across that in any of the Dodges I have now or any in the past. Although now that I think about it, I seem to recall having to do something like that in the wife's old Camry, but I'm not sure if it was the headlight bulb or the side marker light I had to replace. I remember having to pry with quite a bit of force to get the headlight out, enough so that I was worried about breaking the damn thing, that sucker was in there tight.

My problem exactly.

I think that the manual is generic because mine only has 2 clips. Even then I managed to destroy all the plastic around the clip trying to get the damn thing out and it would not budge.

I tried just yanking on the headlight and got it to come out part way but was afraid to pull much harder because I thought I would break something.

Dodge can kiss my ass.

Baconeater
10-23-2009, 12:05 AM
I hope you dont wonder why they are always filing for bankruptcy
Yes because Hondas and Toyotas are so fucking easy to work on. :rolleyes:

ClevelandBronco
10-23-2009, 12:05 AM
Wait until you get a flat tire. Yuo've got to drop the transmission just to change the damn thing.

The only time I drove a Dodge I didn't get the chance to drop the transmission. The car dropped it for me.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-23-2009, 12:16 AM
I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!! I'M IMPORTANT!!

pr_capone
10-23-2009, 12:19 AM
I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS!! I'M IMPORTANT!!

It's my wife's car.

Baconeater
10-23-2009, 12:23 AM
WTF is that supposed to mean Hamas?

Anyway, I was doing some poking around on some Dodge forums, and it looks like I'll have to go through a similar ordeal to change the headlight bulb in my Dakota. At least I'll know ahead of time to set aside a couple hours to do it when the time comes.

Kyle DeLexus
10-23-2009, 02:26 AM
WTF is that supposed to mean Hamas?

Anyway, I was doing some poking around on some Dodge forums, and it looks like I'll have to go through a similar ordeal to change the headlight bulb in my Dakota. At least I'll know ahead of time to set aside a couple hours to do it when the time comes.

Will Ferrell SNL skit from back in the day.

Saccopoo
10-23-2009, 02:39 AM
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bevischief
10-23-2009, 07:11 AM
Yes because Hondas and Toyotas are so ****ing easy to work on. :rolleyes:

ROFLROFL

Deberg_1990
10-23-2009, 07:18 AM
Yes because Hondas and Toyotas are so ****ing easy to work on. :rolleyes:

You dont have to work on them because they never break. :)

MOhillbilly
10-23-2009, 07:40 AM
got a 79 d-150 and love it. thing is a tank. ive had new off the lot trucks,used trucks,hotrod trucks. i just tore em up(used em like a truck).

Mr. Flopnuts
10-23-2009, 08:27 AM
My wife has one. I am as fucking car retarded as they come. I was not happy when I discovered this.

Chazno
10-23-2009, 08:47 AM
Changing the headlamps in a car is one of the few mechanic tasks I can do, so when I went to test drive a new Malibu that is something I look for. After the test drive, I pop the hood. No access to the headlamp. The salesman is clueless but suggests we drive it over to the service department and ask them. We asked 3 different mechanics in the service Depot, and even while looking at the car, not one could make more than a guess. We ended up consulting their computer.

It ended up you were going to have to take off the front grill just to gain access, then slide out the lamp like above. Freaking ridiculous.

Frazod
10-23-2009, 09:01 AM
I remember how easy it was to do minor crap like this to my '85 Cutlass. That was last car I owned that I would actually work on myself. I couldn't even find the fucking battery in my '05 Mustang.

Fish
10-23-2009, 09:19 AM
My mother has a Dodge Intrepid. And she had a water pump go out recently. I thought I could replace it for her. Holy shit no... You practically had to remove the entire front clip to get to the damn thing... radiator, fan, bumper, everything. I couldn't believe it...

TEX
10-23-2009, 09:34 AM
One would think that would be the case. Had anyone other than a brain damaged moron designed this, I would agree with you. Apparently Dodge hires middle school drop outs to design the front end of their vehicles.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5323/28364667.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/28364667.jpg/)


Then, it will cost Dodge about $150 / hour to employ said moron. Then Dodge will file for bankruptsy, get a bail out, and carry on as usual...Perfect!

pr_capone
10-23-2009, 09:59 AM
I remember how easy it was to do minor crap like this to my '85 Cutlass. That was last car I owned that I would actually work on myself. I couldn't even find the ****ing battery in my '05 Mustang.

No shit. You have to take the drivers side tire off to change the battery in the wife's car.

WTF?!?!?!?

Frazod
10-23-2009, 10:26 AM
No shit. You have to take the drivers side tire off to change the battery in the wife's car.

WTF?!?!?!?

Seriously? That's insane. :shake:

Garcia Bronco
10-23-2009, 10:31 AM
Yes because Hondas and Toyotas are so ****ing easy to work on. :rolleyes:

My Toyota is super easy to work on(simple maintenance). From compartments to change bulbs to having the oil filter on the top. No longer do I have to get under the car, contort my arm in an S -shape, to get the oil filter.

bowener
10-23-2009, 10:34 AM
One would think that would be the case. Had anyone other than a brain damaged moron designed this, I would agree with you. Apparently Dodge hires middle school drop outs to design the front end of their vehicles.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5323/28364667.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/28364667.jpg/)

No, they designed this fucker just how they wanted to. It is no accident that they made it about impossible for you to change. It requires you take it to a dealership this way, which means 2 things: A)dealerships make money off the hourly wages, and B) dodge makes money off your headlamp replacement AND now the mechanic is going to "look" over the car for anything else that may need replacing. I guess C) could be they count on you trying it yourself, breaking some of the plastic clips that hold the entire front fascia on, and thus you must go buy more, have a mechanic change your bulb and fix the fucking clips you broke...

They fucked you just like they wanted to fuck you.

bowener
10-23-2009, 10:36 AM
No shit. You have to take the drivers side tire off to change the battery in the wife's car.

WTF?!?!?!?

One day I was looking around under the hood, confused because it is all covered in plastic, but I realized there was no battery (trying to jump a friends car). There are "posts" marked for you to use when jumping or charging, but no battery. Found the fucking thing a few months later in the back of the car under the removable plastic tub-thing and above the spare tire... crazy bastards... at least I can get to that myself.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 10:37 AM
My Toyota is super easy to work on(simple maintenance). From compartments to change bulbs to having the oil filter on the top. No longer do I have to get under the car, contort my arm in an S -shape, to get the oil filter.

YEP right until that hot exhaust manifold burns the shit out of your arm



well on most toyotas, you probably drive an suv and it's in a trough on top, just remembered that

Garcia Bronco
10-23-2009, 10:46 AM
YEP right until that hot exhaust manifold burns the shit out of your arm



well on most toyotas, you probably drive an suv and it's in a trough on top, just remembered that

It's a 2007 FJ TRD. No the hardest part is the plug...which ain't hard at all.

El Jefe
10-23-2009, 10:52 AM
Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to design a car where you have to take half the front end apart to change a ****ing headlight?

All that and I still could not get the headlight bulb changed because the damn headlight would not come out!!!

Really guys... something that burns out like clock work should be much more easily accessible than this. It's a ****ing joke.

I will never again buy a Dodge Stratus.

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AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH


Yep we work on these babies all day long. They do this so they weed more of the "do it yourself" folks out and try and make them go back to the dealer.

dtebbe
10-23-2009, 12:49 PM
The battery is hidden inside the front fenderwell on those too. Stupid shit.

One of my employees had a dead battery, and I had a spare in my shop that I was sure would work... if I could only find the MFer....

DT

Baconeater
10-23-2009, 01:06 PM
lol, I love some of the hate in this thread. This isn't really a Dodge, or domestic car issue at all. It's a result of making cars fuel efficient, which means lower, more steeply raked front ends at the sacrifice of engine compartment space. How often does anyone change a headlamp bulb anyway, I usually only have to replace them once, if that, over the course of owning any vehicle, which is generally 4-5 years. If you're having to do it on an annual basis it's probably because your touching the bulb with your fingers, which greatly shortens the life of it.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-23-2009, 01:25 PM
lol, I love some of the hate in this thread. This isn't really a Dodge, or domestic car issue at all. It's a result of making cars fuel efficient, which means lower, more steeply raked front ends at the sacrifice of engine compartment space. How often does anyone change a headlamp bulb anyway, I usually only have to replace them once, if that, over the course of owning any vehicle, which is generally 4-5 years. If you're having to do it on an annual basis it's probably because your touching the bulb with your fingers, which greatly shortens the life of it.

True. Now that I've got my wife's car done, I know I won't have to worry about it again as we'll get rid of it in the next 2 years.

SDChiefs
10-23-2009, 01:49 PM
I remember how easy it was to do minor crap like this to my '85 Cutlass. That was last car I owned that I would actually work on myself. I couldn't even find the ****ing battery in my '05 Mustang.

Did you try under the hood? Its right there in plain sight.

Bwana
10-23-2009, 01:51 PM
I am changing out two Intrepid headlights tomorrow.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 01:54 PM
I am changing out two Intrepid headlights tomorrow.

IIRC those have either two pins you pull out and remove the headlight assy, OR two long bolts 5.5 MM maybe and again the whole assy pretty much falls out

blaise
10-23-2009, 01:56 PM
Not a Dodge related comment, but I think the new Ford Taurus's are some of the nicest looking American sedan type cars I've seen in a long time. They sort of have an Acura look to them.

Bwana
10-23-2009, 01:57 PM
IIRC those have either two pins you pull out and remove the headlight assy, OR two long bolts 5.5 MM maybe and again the whole assy pretty much falls out

That warms my heart to know. It should be a snap then.

blaise
10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
No shit. You have to take the drivers side tire off to change the battery in the wife's car.

WTF?!?!?!?

That's insane.

Frazod
10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
Did you try under the hood? Its right there in plain sight.

Hmm. I may be thinking about a different car.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 01:58 PM
That warms my heart to know. It should be a snap then.

well for one or two years it was a bitch. here's hoping it's not one of those.....



:D

seclark
10-23-2009, 01:59 PM
That warms my heart to know. It should be a snap then.

you just got some time to do something you really wanted to do, huh?
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Bwana
10-23-2009, 01:59 PM
Not a Dodge related comment, but I think the new Ford Taurus's are some of the nicest looking American sedan type cars I've seen in a long time. They sort of have an Acura look to them.

Heh, when I was in the car business we called them "Cle's." As in Cle-Taurus. Some of us didn't share your lust for the Taurus. If a person wanted one, you could rip one coming through the ring for nothing though.

Bwana
10-23-2009, 02:02 PM
you just got some time to do something you really wanted to do, huh?
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You bet buddy and it SHOULD be going elk and wolf hunting. :shake: My son has a high school football game tomorrow and I didn't want to miss it.

blaise
10-23-2009, 02:04 PM
Heh, when I was in the car business we called them "Cle's." As in Cle-Taurus. Some of us didn't share your lust for the Taurus. If a person wanted one, you could rip one coming through the ring for nothing though.

Yeah, I used to deal with Ford dealership guys. They called the Explorers "Exploders". I wasn't big on the old Taurus's with the roundish body style, and I haven't been inside one of the new ones, but just from the eye test from the ones I've seen they look a lot better now than they did.

CoMoChief
10-23-2009, 02:06 PM
Im tellin ya its your headlight fluid

Bwana
10-23-2009, 02:06 PM
Yeah, I used to deal with Ford dealership guys. They called the Explorers "Exploders".

As did we and for good reason.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-23-2009, 02:07 PM
Yep we work on these babies all day long. They do this so they weed more of the "do it yourself" folks out and try and make them go back to the dealer.

And honestly I think that's a big reason why they're having the problems they are right now. The DIY guys will buy something they can actually do themselves.

Skip Towne
10-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Yes because Hondas and Toyotas are so fucking easy to work on. :rolleyes:

You don't have to work on Hondas and Toyotas. They never break down.

SDChiefs
10-23-2009, 02:16 PM
One day I was looking around under the hood, confused because it is all covered in plastic, but I realized there was no battery (trying to jump a friends car). There are "posts" marked for you to use when jumping or charging, but no battery. Found the ****ing thing a few months later in the back of the car under the removable plastic tub-thing and above the spare tire... crazy bastards... at least I can get to that myself.

BMW? Have a friend who has one and its the same setup.

crispystl420
10-23-2009, 06:38 PM
You dont have to work on them because they never break. :)

Not as often anyways.