Obama Is denying Fox News a place at Presser Censorship? [Archive]

HonestChieffan

10-23-2009, 05:44 AM

petegz28

10-23-2009, 06:20 AM

No, Mr. President. People are concerned when the White House starts dictating what is and what isn't news.

petegz28

10-23-2009, 06:22 AM

I am glad to see all the other networks said "if you don't include Fox, then fuck you!".

TFG

10-23-2009, 07:03 AM

If you are going to attack Obama, hit him with something real. The trivial nonsense doesn't help your cause. It makes you look like you desperately grasp any shit to chuck at Obama regardless of whether or not the shit smells.

REAL
Big Spender - Socialist - Marxist pals
ACORN
sukking up to Putin, Chavez, and other Marxists who hate the US
pushing the FRAUD of Global non-Warming
pushing government run healthcare

BS better left alone
fight with FIXED
he's a "muslim"
supporting disrespectful behavior like shouting him down in Congress
paying any attention to what Cheney says
treating him differently than the previous 43

It applies both ways. Obama should not have his folks whining about FIXED or posters of him as a witch doctor.

Real things matter. BS occupies the minds of morons.

Chief Henry

10-23-2009, 07:32 AM

The cloak of secrecy about this president and this adm. is slowly being discovered to more people. This is just another example.

TFG

10-23-2009, 08:03 AM

The cloak of secrecy about this president and this adm. is slowly being discovered to more people. This is just another example.

Curious, since the prior administration had the same cloak... did you express any outrage at that??

blaise

10-23-2009, 08:26 AM

"FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit."

Do you think it's appropriate to say what is or isn't a news channel?

"The american people aren't interested in that."

SHTSPRAYER

10-23-2009, 08:28 AM

"FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit."

Do you think it's appropriate to say what is or isn't a news channel?

"The american people aren't interested in that."

This is just a distraction. The American people want comprehensive health care reform, they don't care about these smears against kevin jennings and van jones.

Fat Elvis

10-23-2009, 09:10 AM

If the Chiefs organization can pull the press credentials from WPI....

wild1

10-23-2009, 09:13 AM

They just make themselves look like they are afraid of discussion and debate.

Chief Henry

10-23-2009, 09:53 AM

Curious, since the prior administration had the same cloak... did you express any outrage at that??

I don't agree with the premis of your question.

President Bush didn't hide his college transcripts.

President Bush didn't have to hide his payments to the college and who paid for his college education.

President Bush didn't hide any of his family history.

President Bush didn't have to spend MILLIONS of $$$ to hide his REAL Birth certificate. Why would anyone want to spend MILLIONS OF $$$ to hide their REAL Birth Certificate ????

President Bush didn't make a promise to be transparent ! Barry is hardly transparent.

Barry has so many people surronding him that are at the very least questionable: Van Jones, Kevin Jennings, Rev. Wright, ACORN thugs, Bill Ayres the bomber who blew up police stations.

You can learn alot about someone by the comapny they keep.

TFG

10-23-2009, 10:13 AM

I don't agree with the premis of your question.

President Bush didn't hide his college transcripts.

President Bush didn't have to hide his payments to the college and who paid for his college education.

President Bush didn't hide any of his family history.

President Bush didn't have to spend MILLIONS of $$$ to hide his REAL Birth certificate. Why would anyone want to spend MILLIONS OF $$$ to hide their REAL Birth Certificate ????

President Bush didn't make a promise to be transparent ! Barry is hardly transparent.

Barry has so many people surronding him that are at the very least questionable: Van Jones, Kevin Jennings, Rev. Wright, ACORN thugs,
Bill Ayres the bomber who blew up police stations.

You can learn alot about someone by the comapny they keep.

W tried to hide his DUI.

W tried to hide the identity of Cheney's Energy Policy Team, in direct violation of the Contract with America.

W surrounded himself with people who cared about another country more than the US: Scooter Libby, Ari Fleischer, George Tenet, Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Ben Bernanke.

As for your obsession with Obama's birth, why do you think the Clinton Campaign didn't bring that up as an issue?

Yeah, 'cause they checked. The "Birthers" are about the lowest life forms in the universe, trying to pray upon prejudice to hide the truth of the disaster they supported - Obama's predecessor.

W's Administration HID

1. the truth about Saddam and OBL - not allies, not pals, wanted each other dead
2. the truth about Saddam and WMD - not happening, just as UN said
3. the truth about why AQ hit us on 911 - our support for Israel's UN violating settlements
4. Madoff and other CHOSEN from PROSECUTION
5. the true cost of SOCIALIZING SENIOR DRUGS, complete with THREATENING the actuary who did the cost estimate to SHUT UP
6. the truth of Iran's cooperation post 911 and W's (more precisely, Doug Feith's) lies about that.

Hypocrisy, idiocy, and bigotry are not going to stop Obama and help the GOP. Rather, those are precisely why the GOP is in the shitcan right now...

kcfanXIII

10-23-2009, 12:23 PM

TFG

10-23-2009, 01:05 PM

TFG, i raised the same concerns with the previous admin. whats your argument now? trying to block fox is wrong. i don't personally watch it, but i completely understand the need to get both sides. somewhere in the middle lies the truth. while i agree both sides are made to play each other and promote a false choice, you can't silence a portion of the population. if the WH continues this path, and censors the media, there will be a major backlash from the american people.

Not cooperating with FIXED = censoring "the media"

FIXED viewers already hate Obama. They believe Iraq was a great idea but cannot explain why. They don't care about what W did or did not do in Afghan because FIXED never complains about it.

I have already posted several times here that Obama is making a mistake picking a fight with FIXED. Obama is making many mistakes. He should have fired McChrystal as soon as reports of his 40k troop request surfaced in the media. A CinC and a general must trust each other, and Obama surely cannot trust McChrystal. McKiernan never did that to W, making his troop requests (rejected by W over and over) public.

The first party that starts paying attention to real issues and ceases being dumbed down to first grade behavior will capture the US public. Well over 40% of Americans are "independent," or not Dem or GOP, the highest level since before the GOP became a major party.

This stuff

1. the fight with FIXED
2. the BIRTHER crap
3. the "bow" to the Saudi king
4. whining about the "Obama the witch doctor" poster
5. interrupting a Presidential address to Congress

that's all fucking

CRAP

We have a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit and a huge recession. We have troops fighting in one country and withdrawing from another. More than half the country still believes the planet Earth is "warming" despite precisely no evidence of that.

Focus on real issues. Treat Obama with the respect you would every other President. Disagree with him, but if you come across hating him and spewing out crap, you lose even if most of the truth is on your side...

HonestChieffan

10-23-2009, 01:07 PM

i googled FIXED. All I got was some bicycle sites and some goofy magazine.

Chief Henry

10-23-2009, 02:59 PM

W tried to hide his DUI.

W tried to hide the identity of Cheney's Energy Policy Team, in direct violation of the Contract with America.

W surrounded himself with people who cared about another country more than the US: Scooter Libby, Ari Fleischer, George Tenet, Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Ben Bernanke.

As for your obsession with Obama's birth, why do you think the Clinton Campaign didn't bring that up as an issue?

Yeah, 'cause they checked. The "Birthers" are about the lowest life forms in the universe, trying to pray upon prejudice to hide the truth of the disaster they supported - Obama's predecessor.

W's Administration HID

1. the truth about Saddam and OBL - not allies, not pals, wanted each other dead
2. the truth about Saddam and WMD - not happening, just as UN said
3. the truth about why AQ hit us on 911 - our support for Israel's UN violating settlements
4. Madoff and other CHOSEN from PROSECUTION
5. the true cost of SOCIALIZING SENIOR DRUGS, complete with THREATENING the actuary who did the cost estimate to SHUT UP
6. the truth of Iran's cooperation post 911 and W's (more precisely, Doug Feith's) lies about that.

Hypocrisy, idiocy, and bigotry are not going to stop Obama and help the GOP. Rather, those are precisely why the GOP is in the shitcan right now...

Lots of opinions there Jew hater. You've got no proof of any of them.

Barry said he would have open meetings on C-Span...barry also said he would
have the the most transparent admn. ever...

Go hate some more Jews this weekend.

kcfanXIII

10-23-2009, 03:03 PM

people need to get angry, its the only way we're going to save this country.

Iowanian

10-23-2009, 03:04 PM

I'd think the administration would have enough to do without worrying about what Foxnews says.

Taco John

10-23-2009, 03:23 PM

Didn't Bush use to do this sort of thing to Helen Thomas?

JohnnyV13

10-23-2009, 03:48 PM

If you are going to attack Obama, hit him with something real.

Real things matter. BS occupies the minds of morons.

Exactly, like interpreting every US foreign policy move as some form of Zionism.

InChiefsHell

10-23-2009, 03:58 PM

Didn't Bush use to do this sort of thing to Helen Thomas?
What, shut her out of the press room? I remember her ugly old ass being in there...:spock:

Stinger

10-23-2009, 04:13 PM

Disagree with him, but if you come across hating him and spewing out crap, you lose even if most of the truth is on your side...

LMAO LMAO LMAO

......Wow just wow coming from this poster .... Irony Defined

Stinger

10-23-2009, 04:15 PM

Didn't Bush use to do this sort of thing to Helen Thomas?

I believe it was that she would not ask the first question of the President like she normally did .... But I think it was because she left her post at the new outlet she was at or something like that.

Iowanian

10-23-2009, 04:26 PM

Didn't Bush use to do this sort of thing to Helen Thomas?

I don't think so, but it wasn't because she's a sour, bitter ole puss....it's because the others around her complained about her leaking DEPENDS in the chairs.

1 reporter is not the same as turning loose half of your Czars on an entire organization...

Mojo Jojo

10-23-2009, 04:38 PM

Going back to the original question...yes it is. In fact the federal courts ruled during the Nixon years this behavior by the White House violates the first, fifth and fourteenth amendments. This is why all the other networks stood up to the White House interviews on Thursday.

Kinda sucks 9 months into your term, and you are being compared to the Nixon White House.

RedNeckRaider

10-23-2009, 05:05 PM

No, Mr. President. People are concerned when the White House starts dictating what is and what isn't news.

I would like to know the difference between FOX and MSNBC as far as towing party lines. I guess MSNBC kissing his ass is ok but FOX kissing the rights ass is not. Both parties a evil in my eyes but unfortunately the left makes me side with the right in many cases "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" Anyone who is not alarmed by what is going on with those in power right now are
A. too busy watching HBO
B. simply ignorant as to what our founding fathers intended when forming our government
C. a shitbag hoping for a handout
D. party loyal and blind.

TFG

10-23-2009, 05:40 PM

Exactly, like interpreting every US foreign policy move as some form of Zionism.

If you want to stick your head in the sand, that is your right.

Politicians are obsessed with fundraising and favorable media coverage. There is a clear and documented case of one particular lobby pushing us to invade and occupy Iraq for close to 20 years now. To deny that is to lie. To ignore things like the ADL's award to George Tenet is to resign yourself that our troops were deployed for lies and nothing in US national interest, and that you are more concerned with shouting down that truth than you are about the lives of US troops lost for precisely nothing but W's ability to get favorable media coverage and cash from a foreign lobby. That is treason. You cheer it, because you care more about Israel than you do about the US. I don't. I don't think the US exists to serve, fund, and defend the world leader in UN violations, a country Jimmy Carter compares to Apartheid, a country that has mass Bible burnings, a country that has lied to us about their intentions in conquered lands for 30 years, a wealthy country we give $3 bil per year and in return we get 911 and Iraq.

TFG

10-23-2009, 05:55 PM

Lots of opinions there Jew hater. You've got no proof of any of them.

Barry said he would have open meetings on C-Span...barry also said he would
have the the most transparent admn. ever...

Go hate some more Jews this weekend.

Clearly, as a Jew, you feel "chosen" to tell us Americans lies.

Just one dose of truth, for a Friday evening... and just for your CHOSEN REAR, a CHOSEN "news" source...

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/07/us/inquiry-confirms-top-medicare-official-threatened-actuary-over-cost-drug.html

"An internal investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services confirms that the top Medicare official threatened to fire the program's chief actuary if he told Congress that drug benefits would probably cost much more than the White House acknowledged."

"Mr. Scully, who resigned in December, in part to become a lobbyist for health care companies, had denied threatening Mr. Foster but had acknowledged having told him to withhold the information from Congress.

The report, by Dara Corrigan, the department's acting principal deputy inspector general, said, ''Our investigation revealed that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services did not provide information requested by Congressional members and staff, and that Scully threatened to sanction Foster if he disclosed unauthorized information.''"

George W Bush's Administration intentionally lied to Congress about the estimated cost of socializing senior drugs, threatening the actuary to SHUT UP or else. Socialization of senior drugs only happened because Bible Thumping Socialist George W Bush put appeasing the drug and senior lobbies over the good of the US, and lied and threatened honest professionals to accomplish the socialization of senior drugs

petegz28

10-23-2009, 06:43 PM

I would like to know the difference between FOX and MSNBC as far as towing party lines. I guess MSNBC kissing his ass is ok but FOX kissing the rights ass is not. Both parties a evil in my eyes but unfortunately the left makes me side with the right in many cases "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" Anyone who is not alarmed by what is going on with those in power right now are
A. too busy watching HBO
B. simply ignorant as to what our founding fathers intended when forming our government
C. a shitbag hoping for a handout
D. party loyal and blind.

Exactly. It's not that I like the Repubs, I just dislike the Dems more.

redsurfer11

10-23-2009, 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=TFG;6199097]Not cooperating with FIXED = censoring "the media"

They believe Iraq was a great idea but cannot explain why.

Did you ever play RISK?

Bwana

10-23-2009, 07:57 PM

Without question and is is backfiring big time. :) Keep running your mouth Barry.

googlegoogle

10-24-2009, 12:42 PM

Only ONE channel is causing all these problems huh?

How did that stimulus package work people?

Jenson71

10-24-2009, 03:22 PM

No, it's not censorship. And it wasn't censorship when Bush declined to give interviews with the New York Times.

SHTSPRAYER

10-24-2009, 04:22 PM

http://www.obamaisamoron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/obamashit3.jpg

scott free

10-24-2009, 04:40 PM

Fox & MSNBC deserve each other, both sides drown out most good points they make with clearly biased slants & often far over the top vitriol.

I definitely do like Wallace over at Fox though, he is hard on both sides.

But overall, i think they only drive most people away.

Its a thin line indeed between Hannity & Berman.

penchief

10-24-2009, 06:47 PM

"FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit. FOX news isn't legit."

Do you think it's appropriate to say what is or isn't a news channel?

"The american people aren't interested in that."

Is Fox more interested in reporting the news or pushing thier political viewpoint? I'd say that a legitimate news outlet would place objective reporting above a political agenda. Yet they are constantly in all-out attack mode. They are constantly peddling fear, anger, and bias.

While I agree that it is not the job of the president to point out that Fox's cartoonish behavior delegitimizes itself as a news channel, it is also obvious that Fox's cartoonish behavior delegitimizes itself as a news channel.

If Fox News is going to continue it's political campaigning, continue fueling outlandish claims and rabble-rousing, and continue cherrypicking information then I don't see how anyone can take them seriously as a legitimate source of news and information.

banyon

10-24-2009, 06:51 PM

blaise

10-24-2009, 09:43 PM

Is the Weekly Word News a legit newspaper?

I think you and penchief are missing my joke. We've heard several comments out of the White House about FOX news being illegitimate, and then when the reporter asks Obama about it he responds with (paraphrasing) "The American people aren't interested in that."
Don't keep saying it and then claim no one cares about it. Talk about double talk.
I don't know what Weekly Word News is. Or World News if that's a typo. I've never seen it.

banyon

10-25-2009, 12:28 AM

I think you and penchief are missing my joke. We've heard several comments out of the White House about FOX news being illegitimate, and then when the reporter asks Obama about it he responds with (paraphrasing) "The American people aren't interested in that."
Don't keep saying it and then claim no one cares about it. Talk about double talk.
I don't know what Weekly Word News is. Or World News if that's a typo. I've never seen it.

I'd like to hear the non-paraphrased version of that.

Here's the WWN:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News

and their most famous cover:

http://www.lavonardo.net/old_blog/archives/pix/wwn-batboy.jpg

craneref

10-25-2009, 10:26 AM

Is Fox more interested in reporting the news or pushing thier political viewpoint? I'd say that a legitimate news outlet would place objective reporting above a political agenda. Yet they are constantly in all-out attack mode. They are constantly peddling fear, anger, and bias.

While I agree that it is not the job of the president to point out that Fox's cartoonish behavior delegitimizes itself as a news channel, it is also obvious that Fox's cartoonish behavior delegitimizes itself as a news channel.

If Fox News is going to continue it's political campaigning, continue fueling outlandish claims and rabble-rousing, and continue cherrypicking information then I don't see how anyone can take them seriously as a legitimate source of news and information.

Let me see Rahter publishing a fraudulent report about President Bush's military service right before the election, Katie Curoc being snide with Srah Palin, Charlie Gibson asking Sarah Palin abouth her opinion of the Bush doctrine with no clarification, yeah those are not partisan attacks and cartoonish behavior. I am not even going to mention Olbermann, (I just vomited a bit in my mouth typing that), and his ilk. Are there opinion shows on FOX, of course there are, but I find their news more fair and balanced than ANY of the other networks, who provide their newstime as advertisment platforms for the current administrations programs, including going to the whitehouse for him. Saying it over and over again does not make something true or not true. FOX, according to independent sutdies is more fair and balanced than any other news organization.