View Full Version : General Politics The real reason Fox News vs WH? Ailes might run for POTUS
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 08:42 AM
LMAO Fair and balanced BS. If this is true he needs to resign immediately.
http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0910/fox_head_could_make_run.html
Friends and associates are encouraging Fox News chief Roger Ailes to jump into the political arena for real by running for president in 2012, top sources tell POLITICO.
"Ailes knows how to frame an issue better than anybody, and that's what we need now," says one Ailes friend who is encouraging the Fox founder, chairman and CEO to seek the Republican nomination to run against President Barack Obama.
Ailes, 69, has an aggessive, winning personality that made Fox News a huge success — and a huge target for liberal critics.
Frank Luntz, the well-known Republican pollster, said Ailes could be a force if he makes the run.
"I have known Roger Ailes for 29 years," says Luntz. “No one knows how to win better than Roger."
Talk of an Ailes run, which informed sources said is based on more than mere speculation, could escalate the White House war with Fox war in wildly unpredictable – and fun – ways.
It was Ailes who recently held a private meeting with top White House adviser David Axelrod to ease tensions. The meeting was not a success.
Shortly after, the White House stepped up its attack on Fox – and Fox has proudly fired back.
Fox executives are relishing the public spat – so much so that virtually every on-air personality talks about it, and Sean Hannity has made it a central part of his show’s promo.
The biggest reason: ratings at Fox are through the roof.
From his official bio: “Roger Ailes has been Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of FOX News Channel since 1996, Chairman of Fox Television Stations and Twentieth Television since 2005 and Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of FOX Business Network since 2007. Prior to joining the Company, Mr. Ailes was President of CNBC from 1993 to 1996 and served as President of America’s Talking, an information talk channel that later became MSNBC.”
As a legendary Republican political consultant in an earlier career, Ailes helped engineer victories for Ronald Reagan in 1984 and George H.W. Bush in 1988.
HonestChieffan
10-23-2009, 08:47 AM
No doubt. Right. Jeeze Dirk you will fall for anything these days.
Direckshun
10-23-2009, 08:51 AM
It'll never happen. Makes too much money doing what he's doing.
Listen, the real reason for the spat between the White House and Fox News is simple: both sides benefit. Obama's trying to stir up some support, and Fox News is trying to stir up some money. By picking a toothless fight with the other side, both sides win with their base.
This isn't hard to understand if you follow the politics and the money.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 08:53 AM
No doubt. Right. Jeeze Dirk you will fall for anything these days.
LMAO
You are one to talk spamming the board with your bullshit every day.
Oh wait here comes another hcf thread that no one reads because you are an idiot.
wild1
10-23-2009, 08:54 AM
Why ought he resign? He's arguably the most successful person in his job that there is on the scene today.
That being said, I would much prefer someone like Ailes, who has experience running things and being successful at it, over someone like Obama who had never run a hot dog stand, and the results of that we have seen this year.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 08:56 AM
It'll never happen. Makes too much money doing what he's doing.
Listen, the real reason for the spat between the White House and Fox News is simple: both sides benefit. Obama's trying to stir up some support, and Fox News is trying to stir up some money. By picking a toothless fight with the other side, both sides win with their base.
This isn't hard to understand if you follow the politics and the money.
I am not saying he will but he is obviously considering it which should lend more credence that Fox News tilts heavily right.
If I was him I wouldn't do it because right now he has money and some power.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 08:57 AM
Why ought he resign? He's arguably the most successful person in his job that there is on the scene today.
That being said, I would much prefer someone like Ailes, who has experience running things and being successful at it, over someone like Obama who had never run a hot dog stand, and the results of that we have seen this year.
Hello conflict of interest. If you are going to run for POTUS you can't be the head of a supposedly "news" organization. ;)
wild1
10-23-2009, 08:58 AM
I am not saying he will but he is obviously considering it which should lend more credence that Fox News tilts heavily right.
If I was him I wouldn't do it because right now he has money and some power.
Did Michael Bloomberg testing the waters mean that Bloomberg "tilts heavily right"?
Direckshun
10-23-2009, 08:59 AM
Did Michael Bloomberg testing the waters mean that Bloomberg "tilts heavily right"?
What?
Michael Bloomberg doesn't tilt heavily right.
wild1
10-23-2009, 09:00 AM
What?
Bloomberg doesn't tilt heavily right.
That's the point I was trying to make.
Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:00 AM
That's the point I was trying to make.
I meant the guy, not the network.
I guess I'm just missing your point.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 09:01 AM
Did Michael Bloomberg testing the waters mean that Bloomberg "tilts heavily right"?
I don't ever read Bloomberg to give you an honest answer. Do they routinely talk about politics?
SHTSPRAYER
10-23-2009, 09:02 AM
I meant the guy, not the network.
I guess I'm just missing your point.
YOU MISS ALOT OF THINGS! HA HA HA! /J. DIDDY OFF
stevieray
10-23-2009, 09:07 AM
the real reason? lol..its a distraction
..like playing the fool at a town hall and mocking those who oppose you.
wild1
10-23-2009, 09:09 AM
I don't ever read Bloomberg to give you an honest answer. Do they routinely talk about politics?
The path you were going was that Ailes supposedly considering a run for president proves that Fox is biased heavily right. I don't see what those two things have to do with each other.
Bloomberg calls himself a republican and runs a network and it's not widely considered to be "not a news organization" or to be heavily biased right.
I, and I suspect you, know little about Ailes and his political leanings. He was a media relations guy in a few republican administrations, but he could be a hardcore conservative, he could be a RINO, anything. I've known two people who worked in media relations in some degree of opposition to what they normally believe because it was just a job and it breaks them in. And Bloomberg is a moderate by any standard, a liberal by some, his running didn't impute some kind of dubious aire to his network.
My point is, I don't think you have a point.
wild1
10-23-2009, 09:11 AM
For what it's worth, I see nothing here that says Ailes even considers this. All I see is rumor.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that this murmur was started by someone on the left, perhaps even a party confidant, as just another shot in the war the White House is waging on Fox.
This is probably just a made-up story started through back channels intended to discredit the network.
Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:14 AM
Bloomberg calls himself a republican and runs a network and it's not widely considered to be "not a news organization" or to be heavily biased right.
The difference is that Michael Bloomberg is not heavily right-wing.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 09:26 AM
The path you were going was that Ailes supposedly considering a run for president proves that Fox is biased heavily right. I don't see what those two things have to do with each other.
Bloomberg calls himself a republican and runs a network and it's not widely considered to be "not a news organization" or to be heavily biased right.
I, and I suspect you, know little about Ailes and his political leanings. He was a media relations guy in a few republican administrations, but he could be a hardcore conservative, he could be a RINO, anything. I've known two people who worked in media relations in some degree of opposition to what they normally believe because it was just a job and it breaks them in. And Bloomberg is a moderate by any standard, a liberal by some, his running didn't impute some kind of dubious aire to his network.
My point is, I don't think you have a point.
Do you have any idea what Roger Ailes does at Fox? He is the decider of what goes on the air and what doesn't. That is why the Senior VP of Fox News recently admitted they are the "voice of opposition".
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 09:28 AM
For what it's worth, I see nothing here that says Ailes even considers this. All I see is rumor.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that this murmur was started by someone on the left, perhaps even a party confidant, as just another shot in the war the White House is waging on Fox.
This is probably just a made-up story started through back channels intended to discredit the network.
LMAO Luntz basically confirms this information but I guess he is lying as well.
wild1
10-23-2009, 09:37 AM
LMAO Luntz basically confirms this information but I guess he is lying as well.
Where did Luntz do anything close to confirming this?
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 10:01 AM
Where did Luntz do anything close to confirming this?
Luntz works for Fox so I imagine he has the inside scoop and wouldn't have commented if there wasn't some truth in the question.
Add to the fact Politico has very good sources as does the author Roger Allen so I doubt it is made up.
That is not to say that Ailes will eventually decide to run but it appears he is at least thinking about it and people are pushing him to do it.
HonestChieffan
10-23-2009, 10:13 AM
LMAO
You are one to talk spamming the board with your bullshit every day.
Oh wait here comes another hcf thread that no one reads because you are an idiot.
See, you have fallen to the level of the run of the mill Obot. Sve yourself before its too late.
wild1
10-23-2009, 10:17 AM
Luntz works for Fox so I imagine he has the inside scoop and wouldn't have commented if there wasn't some truth in the question.
Again, what did he say that even comes close to confirming it?
This place is hopeless. We can't even read an article in black and white and be able to explain the facts of what it said.
HonestChieffan
10-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Again, what did he say that even comes close to confirming it?
This place is hopeless. We can't even read an article in black and white and be able to explain the facts of what it said.
Obots fear. It is compelling them to silence the opposition and spread rumors like this...and they think its so clever.
Chicago. Think Chicago.
patteeu
10-23-2009, 11:22 AM
Hello conflict of interest. If you are going to run for POTUS you can't be the head of a supposedly "news" organization. ;)
LMAO Where did you get this idea?
Radar Chief
10-23-2009, 11:47 AM
LMAO Where did you get this idea?
From one of those “real” news agencies, of course. ;)
Dallas Chief
10-23-2009, 11:48 AM
Luntz works for Fox so I imagine he has the inside scoop and wouldn't have commented if there wasn't some truth in the question.
Where does his quote say anything about Ailes throwing his hat in for a run at POTUS? He says Ailes knows how to win at things he does. Or are you imagining things?
The difference is that Michael Bloomberg is not heavily right-wing.
No, Mike Bloomberg is a clone of Joe Lieberman, left wing on each and every issue, and fully supportive of using the US military to wipe out all of Israel's enemies. Mike Bloomberg may very well be the most anti-freedom politician in the US, a left wing hater of libertarianism.
wild1
10-23-2009, 11:53 AM
Where does his quote say anything about Ailes throwing his hat in for a run at POTUS? He says Ailes knows how to win at things he does. Or are you imagining things?
The question has been dodged a few times already.
This is just naked speculation, probably coming from the WH or a surrogate, to undermine Fox in their current war of words.
Do you have any idea what Roger Ailes does at Fox? He is the decider of what goes on the air and what doesn't. That is why the Senior VP of Fox News recently admitted they are the "voice of opposition".
HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...
No letting the audience know that Iran and Iraq are bestest buddies right now...
No questions about who forged the Niger document.
No quotes of FBI Director Mueller saying Cheney is 100% full of shit about 'boarding stopping any attacks.
No letting the audience know that Iran was arming and funding The Northern Alliance, at war with Taliban/AQ on 911.
and like his fellow Zionist George Tenet, Jewish "groups" seem to love the lies and misinfo he feeds to American idiots supporting treason...
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb5087/is_200506/ai_n18473739/
"Forward 06-17-2005 Roger Ailes, chairman and chief executive officer of Fox News, was the guest of honor last week at a gala dinner of the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York"
"I suspect you, know little about Ailes and his political leanings. He was a media relations guy in a few republican administrations, but he could be a hardcore conservative, he could be a RINO, anything."
LOL!!!
The guy isn't right or left, RINO or Bible Thumper. Ailes is, shocking...
drumroll...
a FIXED NOISE...
ZIONIST
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 07:13 PM
Well this ended fast. Ailes says he is not running because he can't afford a pay cut.
But I did learn something new about him today. Apparently has worked for every Republican administration in the last 40 years with the exception of GW.
He also worked with Rush Limbaugh when they tried unsuccessfully to bring Rush to TV.
I think that should dispell the notion he isn't a Republican. NTTAWWT
patteeu
10-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Well this ended fast. Ailes says he is not running because he can't afford a pay cut.
But I did learn something new about him today. Apparently has worked for every Republican administration in the last 40 years with the exception of GW.
He also worked with Rush Limbaugh when they tried unsuccessfully to bring Rush to TV.
I think that should dispell the notion he isn't a Republican. NTTAWWT
Are you trying to suggest that Republicans shouldn't operate news networks or that they shouldn't consider running for president? This whole thread seems to lack a reasonable point.
dirk digler
10-23-2009, 07:33 PM
Are you trying to suggest that Republicans shouldn't operate news networks or that they shouldn't consider running for president? This whole thread seems to lack a reasonable point.
Republicans shouldn't run anything except the waste station haven't you figured that out yet? :p
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