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petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:00 AM
A White House effort to undermine conservative critics is generating a backlash on Capitol Hill — and not just from Republicans.


“It’s a mistake,” said Rep. Jason Altmire, a moderate Democrat from western Pennsylvania. “I think it’s beneath the White House to get into a tit for tat with news organizations.”


Altmire was talking about the Obama administration’s efforts to undercut Fox News. But he said his remarks applied just the same to White House efforts to marginalize the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a powerful business lobby targeted for its opposition to climate change legislation.


“There’s no reason to gratuitously piss off all those companies,” added another Democrat, Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia. “The Chamber isn’t an opponent.”


POLITICO reported earlier this week on an all-fronts push by the White House to cut the legs out from under its toughest critics, whether it’s the Chamber, radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck and the rest of the Fox News operation.


White House Communications Director Anita Dunn has defended the push, saying the administration made “a fundamental decision that we needed to be more aggressive in both protecting our position and in delineating our differences with those who were attacking us.”


Congressional Republicans counterattacked Thursday. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said the administration was “targeting those who don’t immediately fall in line” with “Chicago-style politics” aimed at “shutting the American people out and demonizing their opponents.”


Boehner’s No. 2, Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) complained that the nation’s problems are growing while the White House “bickers with a cable news network.”


Liberal Democrats have little heartburn over the administration’s attacks on Fox and Limbaugh. But the attacks make moderates uneasy — especially when they extend to the Chamber of Commerce.


While Limbaugh and Fox commentators like Beck make no secret of their dislike for Democrats, the Chamber’s Republican lean is partially counteracted by nominal and financial support for pro-business Democrats who need to win votes from pro-business Republicans. The campaign websites of moderate Democrats from across the country are filled with endorsements from the Chamber of Commerce.


Rep. Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, for example, has this testimonial from a Chamber official on his site: “On issues ranging from lowering taxes to increasing trade, Indiana’s businesses and workers have no better friend than Brad Ellsworth.”


Ellsworth got a $5,000 campaign contribution from the Chamber in the past election.


Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.), another recipient of a Chamber contribution, said Thursday that he had no intention of stepping into the middle of a fight between the White House and the Chamber, but he did note that he had won an award for his voting record from the national Chamber of Commerce.


A senior House Democrat, speaking on the condition of anonymity while questioning the wisdom of the White House strategy, said: “I have no problem with [going after] Rush at all. I don’t have much of a problem with Fox. I think the Chamber’s another story.”


The Democrat took issue with Chamber leaders in Washington, who he said “do not do a good job of representing the interests of their members.” But he also acknowledged the benefits the Chamber’s goodwill can confer on certain segments of the caucus.


He said that the White House is trying to “take advantage of the discontent within the Chamber. Several flagship companies, including Apple and PG&E, have cut ties with the Chamber to protest its opposition to the climate change legislation that passed the House earlier this year.


Some Democratic critics of the White House attacks say it may strengthen the relationship between the Chamber and moderate Democrats in Congress, who will fast become the organization’s best hope for addressing its concerns if it is frozen out by the White House.


“I don’t think the White House’s relationship with the Chamber will have any effect on individual members’ relationships with the Chamber,” said Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, a centrist Democrat. “I think we’ll be judged on how we conduct ourselves.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28638.html

SHTSPRAYER
10-23-2009, 09:03 AM
What moderate democrats?

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:03 AM
I've started to go to the Drudge Report every morning to see how many of Drudge's links become DC threads.

Almost invariably, it's been roughly three a day.

petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:06 AM
I've started to go to the Drudge Report every morning to see how many of Drudge's links become DC threads.

Almost invariably, it's been roughly three a day.

So drudge made Politic write this? Is that your argument?

Your powers are growing weak, old man.

petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:07 AM
I've started to go to the Drudge Report every morning to see how many of Drudge's links become DC threads.

Almost invariably, it's been roughly three a day.

You're such the detective...

Drudge Healine: "DEMS BLAST WHITE HOUSE ENEMIES LIST STRATEGY... "

Politico Headline: "White House attacks worry moderate Democrats"

Which one was posted, dumbass?

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:09 AM
So drudge made Politic write this? Is that your argument?

My argument is that you get all your news from Drudge.

Virtually every thread you start with an article I've been able to trace back to Drudge in 10 seconds.

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:10 AM
You're such the detective...

Drudge Healine: "DEMS BLAST WHITE HOUSE ENEMIES LIST STRATEGY... "

Politico Headline: "White House attacks worry moderate Democrats"

Which one was posted, dumbass?

It's the same article. Drudge just linked to the Politico article.

The fact that you know exactly what headline I'm talking about proves my point.

wild1
10-23-2009, 09:14 AM
I've started to go to the Drudge Report every morning to see how many of Drudge's links become DC threads.


Could that be because he posts links to the day's major news items?

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:15 AM
Could that be because he only posts links to the day's major pro-Republican/anti-Obama news items?

FYP

petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:18 AM
My argument is that you get all your news from Drudge.

Virtually every thread you start with an article I've been able to trace back to Drudge in 10 seconds.

Wow, Drudge has headlines from a vast array of sources. But don't assume that I only go to Drudge. It shows what a dumbass you really are.

Virtually every major political headline regardless of source can be traced back to Drudge.

petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:20 AM
FYP

W.H.: Cheney failed on Afghanistan
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1009/no_dithering_72c09e61-e372-4ec7-b600-719ace41adbd.html

Wow, this was linked to Drudge!!!

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:25 AM
But don't assume that I only go to Drudge. It shows what a dumbass you really are.

You only post articles that you get from Drudge.

blaise
10-23-2009, 09:25 AM
Yes because threads from liberals never seem to match what's on the HuffingtonPost that day.

Simplex3
10-23-2009, 09:27 AM
I've started to go to the Drudge Report every morning to see how many of Drudge's links become DC threads.

Almost invariably, it's been roughly three a day.

Strange that a political blog and a political forum would have similar content. Couldn't be coincidence.

petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:28 AM
You only post articles that you get from Drudge.

Dude, do you ever get tired of making a dumbass of yourself?

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:30 AM
W.H.: Cheney failed on Afghanistan
http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1009/no_dithering_72c09e61-e372-4ec7-b600-719ace41adbd.html

Wow, this was linked to Drudge!!!

Do you really want to get into the business of defending Drudge's objectivity? It is a secret to no one that the guy is hard right-wing.

On drudgereport.com, that article you just headlined is below the following headlines:
Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years... JULIUS AT FCC WANTS TO 'REGULATE' INTERNET Boehner: Obama's 'Chicago-Style Politics'.. PRUDEN: Third World get-the-press rant... NOONAN: It's His Rubble Now... Top Democrats seek to shield Obama in case of Virginia election loss... Corzine, N.J. Challengers Feud Over Taxes, Waste in Last Debate... Labels listing 'carbon dioxide emissions' appearing on grocery items, restaurant menus... New York suspends mandatory flu shots for health workers... White House economist: Stimulus already losing steam? DEMS BLAST WHITE HOUSE ENEMIES LIST STRATEGY... Abortion divides House Dems in health care debate... After Obama snubs, Disappointed Sarkozy shifts gaze from Washington...
So let's not kid ourselves. We know where the guy's coming from. And we know why you rely on him.

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:31 AM
Strange that a political blog and a political forum would have similar content. Couldn't be coincidence.

Hey, I'm accused of being Obama's PR bitch every day. But I'm not running around simply relinking the Drudge Report.

mlyonsd
10-23-2009, 09:32 AM
Strange that a political blog and a political forum would have similar content. Couldn't be coincidence.ROFL

wild1
10-23-2009, 09:35 AM
Hey, I'm accused of being Obama's PR bitch every day. But I'm not running around simply relinking the Drudge Report.

That's your template until all this blows over? Not even complaining about sources any longer, but through what internet sites people got to the sources?

blaise
10-23-2009, 09:37 AM
I notice a lot of the sports stories on the main page are similar to stories that are on ESPN.

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 09:37 AM
That's your template until all this blows over? Not even complaining about sources any longer, but through what internet sites people got to the sources?

Nope, just a thing I've noticed with Pete.

wild1
10-23-2009, 09:40 AM
I notice a lot of the sports stories on the main page are similar to stories that are on ESPN.

I've noticed that a majority of the football threads are about one particular football team.

BucEyedPea
10-23-2009, 10:19 AM
I notice a lot of the sports stories on the main page are similar to stories that are on ESPN.

ESPN suks!

RINGLEADER
10-23-2009, 11:35 AM
It's irrelevant whether the stories are true or not if Drudge links to them.

:shake:

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 12:49 PM
It's irrelevant whether the stories are true or not if Drudge links to them.

:shake:

It's relevant if that's the only place you seem to get your news.

HonestChieffan
10-23-2009, 12:55 PM
you are attacking the site? Why? Is the information correct?

wild1
10-23-2009, 12:56 PM
It's relevant if that's the only place you seem to get your news.

Whether or not drudge links something has nothing to do with whether that story is true or not.

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 01:00 PM
Whether or not drudge links something has nothing to do with whether that story is true or not.

I don't know what you want me to do with this information.

wild1
10-23-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't know what you want me to do with this information.

Stop acting like it delegitimizes a story?

Direckshun
10-23-2009, 01:02 PM
Stop acting like it delegitimizes a story?

I'm not even talking about the story.

Not one post in this thread have I talked about the story.

Keep your eye on the ball, Flapjack.

petegz28
10-23-2009, 04:39 PM
I'm not even talking about the story.

Not one post in this thread have I talked about the story.

Keep your eye on the ball, Flapjack.

Yes, we know you are not talking about the story. That's the point.

CoMoChief
10-23-2009, 04:49 PM
Liberals are retards.