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raybec 4
10-23-2009, 01:25 PM
I haven't done one of these for a while. To the casual fan there aren't many big names on this card other than Shogun v Machida. There is the potential to be some great fights on this one though. The main card features Velazquez vs Rothwell, could be a really good one, Tibau Vs Neer and Joe Stephenson vs Spencer Fisher should not disappoint either.

big nasty kcnut
10-23-2009, 01:35 PM
Machida,Stephenson and Velazquez for the win.

Bwana
10-23-2009, 01:35 PM
I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to buy this one or not.

wildcat09
10-23-2009, 01:37 PM
I want to see Machida fight.....I hear he is quite the badass

Detoxing
10-23-2009, 01:37 PM
I want to get it, but all my friends are broke and I ain't going to pony up 60 bucks all my byself

CoMoChief
10-23-2009, 01:37 PM
Machida is a badass.....but this isn't going to be a big draw card.

I'll wait to get the next fight where Lesnar will pound the shit out of Carwin.

wildcat09
10-23-2009, 01:45 PM
Machida is a badass.....but this isn't going to be a big draw card.

I'll wait to get the next fight where Lesnar will pound the shit out of Carwin.


I may hit a bar and watch the fight.

Lesnar, hate him or not, is an ass kicking machine.......damn that guys scares me

raybec 4
10-23-2009, 01:48 PM
Machida is a badass.....but this isn't going to be a big draw card.

I'll wait to get the next fight where Lesnar will pound the shit out of Carwin.

You're right, it won't be one of their top cards but it will have some of the most competitive fights. Anthony Johnson's fighting too, there are some really tough guy's going at it.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 02:02 PM
MY BOY the rosedale reaper rob kimmons is fighting on this card woot woot!!!!

and i hope rua kicks machida's ass

CoMoChief
10-23-2009, 02:03 PM
MY BOY the rosedale reaper rob kimmons is fighting on this card woot woot!!!!

and i hope rua kicks machida's ass

ROFL won't happen

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 02:06 PM
ROFL won't happen

Yeah i didnt say i would bet on it, just hoping.

ArrowheadHawk
10-23-2009, 02:18 PM
Yeah I hope machida loses. I don't think he will though. He gave my favorite fighter(rashad) his first L.
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raybec 4
10-23-2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah I hope machida loses. I don't think he will though. He gave my favorite fighter(rashad) his first L.
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He didn't GIVE Rashad that loss, Rashad fought for it.

raybec 4
10-23-2009, 02:23 PM
MY BOY the rosedale reaper rob kimmons is fighting on this card woot woot!!!!

and i hope rua kicks machida's ass

He's got his hands full with Rivera.

Zeke Ziggle
10-23-2009, 02:50 PM
While hes not on the main card it'll be good for Yushin Okami to be back after a bunch of injuries.

And there is almost no way Machida gets beat nor would i want to see it.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 03:07 PM
He's got his hands full with Rivera.

OH we ALL know that, but my money's on tha reaper:D

raybec 4
10-23-2009, 03:09 PM
OH we ALL know that, but my money's on tha reaper:D

I believe he'll get it done as well. Rivera's on the downhill side of his career but you can never count him out completely. Good luck to your buddy though.

wildcat09
10-23-2009, 03:13 PM
OH we ALL know that, but my money's on tha reaper:D

I saw Kimmons fight locally not too awful long ago......didn't know he made it to UFC.....congrats to him

Crashride
10-23-2009, 03:14 PM
Im pulling for Machida, im a big fan of his style and patience.

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 03:16 PM
I saw Kimmons fight locally not too awful long ago......didn't know he made it to UFC.....congrats to him

he's actually fought in the ufc before. but yeah everyone's excited. just sucks that he's not on the main card.

Here's hoping he will be one of the spike fights.:D

wildcat09
10-23-2009, 03:20 PM
he's actually fought in the ufc before. but yeah everyone's excited. just sucks that he's not on the main card.

Here's hoping he will be one of the spike fights.:D


Did he fight that Diesel guy ?......can't remember his name

raybec 4
10-23-2009, 03:28 PM
he's actually fought in the ufc before. but yeah everyone's excited. just sucks that he's not on the main card.

Here's hoping he will be one of the spike fights.:D

He fought one of the Miller brothers didn't he?

JASONSAUTO
10-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Did he fight that Diesel guy ?......can't remember his name

joe riggs? yeah hes lost to riggs, marvin eastman, ryan jenson, and dan miller in his career. all have been in the UFC at some point or other. he's 2-1 in the ufc
beaten joe vedepo and rob yundt, lost to dan miller at fight night 15 IIRC. he's a banger, likes to throw.
The fight against eastman was a WAR, rob should have had him too IMO, just got gassed. it wasnt in the ufc the IFO IIRC. it was up for fight of the year on sherdog in 2007 i believe.

Watch him if you can he's a fun fighter to watch if you like guys who want to knock someone's head off. has a decent ground game too been working hard on it

raybec 4
10-23-2009, 03:37 PM
joe riggs? yeah hes lost to riggs, marvin eastman, ryan jenson, and dan miller in his career. all have been in the UFC at some point or other. he's 2-1 in the ufc
beaten joe vedepo and rob yundt, lost to dan miller at fight night 15 IIRC. he's a banger, likes to throw.
The fight against eastman was a WAR, rob should have had him too IMO, just got gassed. it wasnt in the ufc the IFO IIRC. it was up for fight of the year on sherdog in 2007 i believe.

Watch him if you can he's a fun fighter to watch if you like guys who want to knock someone's head off. has a decent ground game too been working hard on it
No shame at all in losing to any of those guys, they are all top tier dudes.

wildcat09
10-23-2009, 03:44 PM
joe riggs? yeah hes lost to riggs, marvin eastman, ryan jenson, and dan miller in his career. all have been in the UFC at some point or other. he's 2-1 in the ufc
beaten joe vedepo and rob yundt, lost to dan miller at fight night 15 IIRC. he's a banger, likes to throw.
The fight against eastman was a WAR, rob should have had him too IMO, just got gassed. it wasnt in the ufc the IFO IIRC. it was up for fight of the year on sherdog in 2007 i believe.

Watch him if you can he's a fun fighter to watch if you like guys who want to knock someone's head off. has a decent ground game too been working hard on it

I met him once through a guy I knew named John Cornett. I worked for a guy who was best friends with Cornett so we went to fights all the time. Good to see Rob is doing well.

Bwana
10-24-2009, 07:46 PM
Man, I couldn't help myself, I bought it. I hope it's worth a damn.

pr_capone
10-24-2009, 07:52 PM
live stream:

http://www.stream2watch.com/watch/1089/1/watch-online-Other-UFC-104-Machida-vs-Shogun-live-stream

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 07:54 PM
Im pulling for Machida, im a big fan of his style and patience.Likewise.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 07:56 PM
F it, I'm in... can't resist.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:13 PM
Rooting for Rumble here...

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:15 PM
Damn...

Delano
10-24-2009, 08:16 PM
Rooting for Rumble here...

Jesus - Rumble throws FUCKING TORPEDOS.

Stanley Nickels
10-24-2009, 08:17 PM
live stream:

http://www.stream2watch.com/watch/1089/1/watch-online-Other-UFC-104-Machida-vs-Shogun-live-stream

rrrrrrrep

Bwana
10-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Jesus - Rumble throws ****ING TORPEDOS.

Yeah, that didn't take long. Whap, Whap, Whap, DROP.

Jerm
10-24-2009, 08:18 PM
Rumble weighed in 6 pounds over yesterday, pretty pathetic for a professional TBH.

Dude throws bombs though.
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KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:20 PM
Yeah, that didn't tale long. Whap, Whap, Whap, DROP.Yeah, quick fights = more fights, too.

Bwana
10-24-2009, 08:21 PM
Yeah, quick fights = more fights, too.

Indeed! :thumb:

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Tough call... I like both of these guys.

I guess I'll root for Joe Daddy. He needs the win.

Delano
10-24-2009, 08:25 PM
live stream:

http://www.stream2watch.com/watch/1089/1/watch-online-Other-UFC-104-Machida-vs-Shogun-live-stream

Anyone else getting lag on this stream?

pr_capone
10-24-2009, 08:25 PM
Anyone else getting lag on this stream?

skips every now and then but its been solid for the most part

refresh fixes it for me

pr_capone
10-24-2009, 08:26 PM
Tough call... I like both of these guys.

I guess I'll root for Joe Daddy. He needs the win.

I love the way Joe fights. Definitely pulling for him.

Bwana
10-24-2009, 08:41 PM
Great short elbows.

Delano
10-24-2009, 08:41 PM
Yeah, that's a good stoppage.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:42 PM
Brutal elbows

Delano
10-24-2009, 08:43 PM
Yoda. LMAO

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 08:43 PM
"My little sister and big sister used to team up and do that to me. Put makeup on me."

LMAO

Delano
10-24-2009, 08:44 PM
Was that Ivanka Trump? Right behind Tubby Tucker.

swayy07
10-24-2009, 08:44 PM
has machida fought yet?

pr_capone
10-24-2009, 08:49 PM
has machida fought yet?

nope

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 09:05 PM
That was a boring ass fight.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 09:32 PM
LA douchebags....

Rogan rocks.

Easy 6
10-24-2009, 09:37 PM
Without knowing a thing...i say Machida by tapout late in the third.

Shogun isnt the same tactician as Machida, if there was ever going to be a New Age Bruce Lee...its Machida.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 09:40 PM
Without knowing a thing...i say Machida by tapout late in the third.

Shogun isnt the same tactician as Machida, if there was ever going to be a New Age Bruce Lee...its Machida.Shit, don't jinx him.

Easy 6
10-24-2009, 09:50 PM
Shit, don't jinx him.

...:doh!:

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 09:59 PM
C'mon Machida.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 10:44 PM
WTF???

pr_capone
10-24-2009, 10:45 PM
WOW.

Unbelievable.

Bwana
10-24-2009, 10:48 PM
What a bullshit call. Shogun won that fight.

BigCatDaddy
10-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Seriously, who judges this shit? Shogun won at least four of those rounds.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 10:51 PM
Machida lost that fight. That's the worst decision I've seen in ages.

(And I was rooting for Machida.)

Easy 6
10-24-2009, 10:58 PM
Shit, don't jinx him.

:shake::shake::shake:

I totally ****ed it up.

JASONSAUTO
10-24-2009, 10:59 PM
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KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 10:59 PM
:shake::shake::shake:

I totally ****ed it up.Thanks, asshole. :)

JASONSAUTO
10-24-2009, 11:00 PM
shogun got fucking jobbed
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BigCatDaddy
10-24-2009, 11:04 PM
This is the reason everybody quit watching boxing.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 11:04 PM
This is the reason everybody quit watching boxing.Seriously.

WTF is going on?

Crashride
10-24-2009, 11:14 PM
This is the reason everybody quit watching boxing.

Thread over.

KcMizzou
10-24-2009, 11:15 PM
What really pisses me off, is the fact that Shogun accepted it like he knew what the outcome would be. If I were in his shoes..... I'd be pissed.

Bwana
10-24-2009, 11:36 PM
This is the reason everybody quit watching boxing.

That's exactly what I told my wife when the fight was over. I told her one more of those and I won't pay for any more.

TrickyNicky
10-24-2009, 11:43 PM
the three blind mice of mma - Peoples, Hamilton and Rosales

the constant between boxing and UFC is the NSAC. They have always been like this.

blazzin311
10-25-2009, 12:28 AM
Machida lost that fight. That's the worst decision I've seen in ages.

(And I was rooting for Machida.)

Agreed 100%!

Crashride
10-25-2009, 09:03 AM
the three blind mice of mma - Peoples, Hamilton and Rosales

the constant between boxing and UFC is the NSAC. They have always been like this.

please explain

JASONSAUTO
10-25-2009, 09:07 AM
that was the worst judging i have ever seen last night, shogun absolutely dominated that fight, how he could lose a unanimous decision is way beyond me

Bwana
10-25-2009, 09:29 AM
that was the worst judging i have ever seen last night, shogun absolutely dominated that fight, how he could lose a unanimous decision is way beyond me

Yeah he got boned big time. As I stated before, all it's going ot take is one more shill job decision like that and my checkbook is closed to future MMA fights.

I have spent years being a judge in martial arts fights and have no idea WTH the judge's were looking at last night. I don't know if they were stupid, getting paid off, or if this has turned into the WWE where the winner is picked in advance? Irregardless, anyway you slice it, it was a bull shit call.

TrickyNicky
10-25-2009, 10:22 AM
please explain

The Athletic Commissions appoint the judges and refs. The NSAC and CSAC just don't have a clue and refuse to get people who can actually score MMA fights correctly. UFC has no real control over who is appointed for each fight. If they did, I'm sure Cecil Peoples would be long gone by now. Bar none the worst judge ever. They need to revamp the entire process and get some knowledgable MMA judges like Matt Hume. Cecil Peoples background is competitive Kempo Karate and the bias was clearly on display.

In reality, they should do away with the 10-point must and have a scoring criteria that suits all the phases of MMA better.

raybec 4
10-26-2009, 10:13 AM
The Athletic Commissions appoint the judges and refs. The NSAC and CSAC just don't have a clue and refuse to get people who can actually score MMA fights correctly. UFC has no real control over who is appointed for each fight. If they did, I'm sure Cecil Peoples would be long gone by now. Bar none the worst judge ever. They need to revamp the entire process and get some knowledgable MMA judges like Matt Hume. Cecil Peoples background is competitive Kempo Karate and the bias was clearly on display.

In reality, they should do away with the 10-point must and have a scoring criteria that suits all the phases of MMA better.

You have some excellent points but if they do away with the 10 point system, they run the risk of losing credibility. The sport is too young here in the states for that IMHO. The Japanese don't have a 10 point system, they don't even score by rounds. Whoever tried the most to finish the fight usually wins. That would also do away with a lot of the lay and pray wins too.

Chiefnj2
10-26-2009, 10:19 AM
This is the reason everybody quit watching boxing.

Sketchy decisions which led to big dollar "rematches" and then a third fight because the first two were split.

JASONSAUTO
10-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Yeah he got boned big time. As I stated before, all it's going ot take is one more shill job decision like that and my checkbook is closed to future MMA fights.

I have spent years being a judge in martial arts fights and have no idea WTH the judge's were looking at last night. I don't know if they were stupid, getting paid off, or if this has turned into the WWE where the winner is picked in advance? Irregardless, anyway you slice it, it was a bull shit call.

IMO the problem is that they use boxing judges to also judge MMA Fights, shogun primarily used his legs....