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BigRedChief
10-23-2009, 07:41 PM
From a partisan show, Olnerman. But, I don't think anyone thinks Olberman is fair and balanced. Thats the point. There is no fair and balanced news anymore. Not Olberman, Not MSNBC, Not Fox News. No one.

This is very John Stewartish, cutting and cherry picking from shows but still......
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#33455924


Fox News has a right to slant their news. Just don't call it fair and balanced.
Bwana
10-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Is Obama fair and balanced?
headsnap
10-23-2009, 07:57 PM
There is no fair and balanced news anymore.
anymore?!?!


there never was...
Rooster
10-23-2009, 08:00 PM
No, but no different than MSNBC IMO.
GoHuge39
10-23-2009, 08:01 PM
Is Obama fair and balanced?Was Bush? I voted for him and 2000 and 2004 (only because the Dems couldn't give me a better option than Kerry's ass.) I think a news source should be without having to say it, but they're a bunch of right wing fanatics. I won't watch, listen, or go to that website and I'm a registered republican. O'Reilly is the biggest blow hard and self promoter out there besides maybe Rush. My favorite Letterman episode was when he owned O'Reilly. Foxnews.com is nothing but a propoganda machine for the right and the people that visit it are going there to get the slant they want. It's sick!
BigRedChief
10-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Is Obama fair and balanced?No. There is no such thing as fair and balanced. Maybe Meet the Press back in the 60's. But even Edward R. Morrow and Walter Cronkite wern't truly fair and balanced.

I would just like to have a news outlet give me just the facts mamn approach. You could have partisan guests and pieces, just mark it as such and give the other side the same oppertunity.

It would seem that would be a business model that would succeed.
headsnap
10-23-2009, 08:05 PM
I would just like to have a news outlet give me just the facts mamn approach.
someone will still have to decide which 'facts' to report on...
BigRedChief
10-23-2009, 08:11 PM
someone will still have to decide which 'facts' to report on...No they wouldn't. Show me the different interpetations of the data. Not just one side.
Bwana
10-23-2009, 08:13 PM
Was Bush? I voted for him and 2000 and 2004 (only because the Dems couldn't give me a better option than Kerry's ass.) I think a news source should be without having to say it, but they're a bunch of right wing fanatics. I won't watch, listen, or go to that website and I'm a registered republican. O'Reilly is the biggest blow hard and self promoter out there besides maybe Rush. My favorite Letterman episode was when he owned O'Reilly. Foxnews.com is nothing but a propoganda machine for the right and the people that visit it are going there to get the slant they want. It's sick!

I didn't see Bush crying about the news outlets and he got ABUSED next to what Barry is seeing. Christ, the Dan the Rather blood lust alone was more than Obama is likely to see all year.<O:p
<O:p
Barry needs to get "something" done other than cry, bitch and moan about a news station. Jobs are in the shitter, consumer confidence is low and the stimulus did what? Seriously, WTF did it do? <O:p
<O:p
stfu Mr. President, stop running your mouth and lets see some of your so called Hope and Change. Running your pie hole is certainly “Change,” but I have a feeling it’s not the kind of change the people who voted for you had in mind.<O:p
headsnap
10-23-2009, 08:14 PM
No they wouldn't. Show me the different interpetations of the data. Not just one side.

Even with a 24 hour news show there will have to be some editing. As humans, we are thinking, feeling, EMOTING beings... absence of bias is impossible.
Mr. Kotter
10-23-2009, 08:14 PM
No they wouldn't. Show me the different interpetations of the data. Not just one side.

That's why FOX exists....because, RARELY, do any of the major broadcast networks or cable news channels ever give more than a cursory view of the "right" side or conservative take of anything political. It's why FOX does so well, ratings-wise; they are the ONLY right wing show in town....and there are a half a dozen or so "networks" sharing the moonbat and progressive views. If you want conservative, FOX is really the only show in town...which, as you imply, is too bad.

Unfortunately, most Americans (if they are interested at all) are ONLY interested in having their OWN views....reinforced. Otherwise, we might have to think. Unfortunately, the ratings and results for more balanced and "objective" presentation of political issues...don't fare too well these days.

Welcome to politics in the modern battle of ideologues and morons.
BigRedChief
10-23-2009, 08:19 PM
Even with a 24 hour news show there will have to be some editing. As humans, we are thinking, feeling, EMOTING beings... absence of bias is impossible.I understand your point. I agree that its probably a truism. But its still something we could strive for, work torwards, couldn't we? Surely there would be a market for it?
GoHuge39
10-23-2009, 09:16 PM
I didn't see Bush crying about the news outlets and he got ABUSED next to what Barry is seeing. Christ, the Dan the Rather blood lust alone was more than Obama is likely to see all year.<O:p
<O:p
Barry needs to get "something" done other than cry, bitch and moan about a news station. Jobs are in the shitter, consumer confidence is low and the stimulus did what? Seriously, WTF did it do? <O:p
<O:p
stfu Mr. President, stop running your mouth and lets see some of your so called Hope and Change. Running your pie hole is certainly “Change,” but I have a feeling it’s not the kind of change the people who voted for you had in mind.<O:pWell if Obama actually causes a huge shit storm and the country falls to it's knees under him like it did Bush I hope the media gets after him. Like I said I'm a reg. republican, but Bush had no business ever being a President. Vastly under qualified (not because of experience, but brain power). Dude drove this country off a cliff, and that really was our only option because both of his elestions where against fuckwads. Bush/Gore Bush/Kerry both losing situations so I went with what I figured was probably the lesser of two evils. Far from a Bush or Obama supporter right here. I'm an equal-opportunity politician hater.
SHTSPRAYER
10-23-2009, 09:20 PM
The American people have spoken. Just look at the ratings.

Asshole.
petegz28
10-23-2009, 09:26 PM
I voted No. But I voted No for MSNBS too.
KCWolfman
10-23-2009, 10:05 PM
We are worried about whether Fox is truth in advertisting?


So how's "don't ask, don't tell", "shovel ready projects", and "transparency" working out for you?

Geez, the free pass you guys give the POTUS while worrying about a news agency is just plain ridiculous.
Bwana
10-23-2009, 11:02 PM
Well if Obama actually causes a huge shit storm and the country falls to it's knees under him like it did Bush I hope the media gets after him. Like I said I'm a reg. republican, but Bush had no business ever being a President. Vastly under qualified (not because of experience, but brain power). Dude drove this country off a cliff, and that really was our only option because both of his elestions where against ****wads. Bush/Gore Bush/Kerry both losing situations so I went with what I figured was probably the lesser of two evils. Far from a Bush or Obama supporter right here. I'm an equal-opportunity politician hater.

Oh, I agree with you on Bush, but I'm not convinced Obama is any smarter and he is spending our money like a drunken sailer. Millions of people in the US and we end up having to choose between two dipshitps 99% of the time when it comes time to vote. :shake:
Silock
10-24-2009, 12:14 AM
There are no unbiased media sources.
2bikemike
10-24-2009, 12:51 AM
I would say that Fox is about as fair and balanced as any of them. They all have their slant.

I also believe that Fox is the minority on the right side of the meida line. Which is why Talk Radio is so prevalent.

IMHO its important that Fox and the Conservative Radio continues to try and balance out the more prevalent liberal media.
BigRedChief
10-24-2009, 04:57 AM
Even if it's more fair and balanced than the remainder of the major news sources?There is no "more" fair and balanced than the others. You either are "Fair and Balanced" or not.
PRIEST
10-24-2009, 05:26 AM
Nope not at all , but neither is MSNBC
Guru
10-24-2009, 05:27 AM
There is no "more" fair and balanced than the others. You either are "Fair and Balanced" or not.AGreed on the fact that nobody is more fair and balanced than another but I trust Fox more than the other networks.
Pioli Zombie
10-24-2009, 05:34 AM
I think its very important,since they are all biased, to watch both sides. Otherwise, Righties who watch only Fox will be totally brainwashed and lefties who watch only MSNBC will be totally brainwashed and you will have two totally moronic viewpoints dominating politics. Kind of like what we have now.
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BigRedChief
10-24-2009, 06:10 AM
AGreed on the fact that nobody is more fair and balanced than another but I trust Fox more than the other networks.And thats perfectly kosher. Just don't call it fair and balanced.
Bwana
10-24-2009, 07:24 AM
I would say that Fox is about as fair and balanced as any of them. They all have their slant.

I also believe that Fox is the minority on the right side of the meida line. Which is why Talk Radio is so prevalent.

IMHO its important that Fox and the Conservative Radio continues to try and balance out the more prevalent liberal media.

Bingo, you just nailed it.
Baby Lee
10-24-2009, 07:54 AM
Larry in full scream.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1336660059?bctid=1336721556
MarcBulger
10-24-2009, 08:01 AM
Fox is the only "news" channel that actually asks tough questions to Liberals...Liberals have been so used to being asked easy questions..

I remember during Clinton/Dole, Katie Couric was interviewing them, and praises Clinton for his going after the Tobbacco Companies and then Looks at Dole and asked why did he support a company that kills people...Classic...

Dems are just babies and are spoiled brats who always got their way with the press....
LOCOChief
10-24-2009, 08:15 AM
At least FOX does report and gives you a chance to decide.

ACCORN
Van Jones
Bill Ayers
Rev. Wright

The list goes on and on, and if not for FOX you wouldn't have heard a peep from the others.
I don't think that they are completely fair and balanced, but they are as close as it gets and that's why they have the ratings they have.

I'd like to hear what BRC thinks has been reported inaccurately by FOX (specifics)
patteeu
10-24-2009, 08:33 AM
Was Bush? I voted for him and 2000 and 2004 (only because the Dems couldn't give me a better option than Kerry's ass.) I think a news source should be without having to say it, but they're a bunch of right wing fanatics. I won't watch, listen, or go to that website and I'm a registered republican. O'Reilly is the biggest blow hard and self promoter out there besides maybe Rush. My favorite Letterman episode was when he owned O'Reilly. Foxnews.com is nothing but a propoganda machine for the right and the people that visit it are going there to get the slant they want. It's sick!

:rolleyes: Another "registered republican" who "voted for [Bush]" who never has anything good to say about Republicans, Bush or anything the least bit conservative. You've already gone full retard, what's stopping you from registering as a democrat or at least as an independent?
patteeu
10-24-2009, 08:38 AM
It's hard for some liberals to deal with it when the cocoon of the liberal media echo chamber is breached by a fair and balanced outfit like FOXNews.
Pioli Zombie
10-24-2009, 09:22 AM
Its Fair and Balanced when you agree with what they say.
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TFG
10-25-2009, 06:59 AM
I didn't see Bush crying about the news outlets and he got ABUSED next to what Barry is seeing. Christ, the Dan the Rather blood lust alone was more than Obama is likely to see all year.<O:p
<O:p
Barry needs to get "something" done other than cry, bitch and moan about a news station. Jobs are in the shitter, consumer confidence is low and the stimulus did what? Seriously, WTF did it do? <O:p
<O:p
stfu Mr. President, stop running your mouth and lets see some of your so called Hope and Change. Running your pie hole is certainly “Change,” but I have a feeling it’s not the kind of change the people who voted for you had in mind.<O:p



So, you think W had nothing to do with the current economic situation?


In 2004, every "news" outlet was calling opponents of Iraq "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror."

You call that "anti-Bush." I call you a treasonous MORON who fell for it.
craneref
10-25-2009, 10:18 AM
So, you think W had nothing to do with the current economic situation?


In 2004, every "news" outlet was calling opponents of Iraq "soft on (Israel's, not our) terror."

You call that "anti-Bush." I call you a treasonous MORON who fell for it.

You think that policies by Clinton didn't affect the crash of the housing market? It is not hard to notice that there are a "few" people who live in this country who absolutely loathe America, I believe they are un-American. As for people against Iraq, they had their right to their opinion, but when they blatently call US Military baby killers and they it was ALL a lie to make money for Conservative Leaders, even though ALL of the Democratic leaders thought there were WMD's in Iraq, goes beyond having a disagreeing opinion.
Velvet_Jones
10-26-2009, 06:54 AM
Hehehe - its funny when Fox is compared to MSNBC. MSNBC is a joke and is losing viewership - Fox - not so much.

Its funny - you take ABC+CBS+NBC+MSNBC and compare it to FOX + CNN and you can then see the media Bias on TV.

If you add in the major news papers, the bias is really apparent.
BigRedChief
10-26-2009, 10:09 AM
Velvet, if you try to use reality to win the argument you are just heaping coals on the fire. Those that hate Fox don't want to hear facts.how about the fact that the good economic news this am thats on all news outlets as a big story isn't even a side bar story on Fox. Isn't even listed on their site.

http://www.foxnews.com/

Fair and balanced? my azz. How can you ignore this economic report on jobs? It's an apolitical news item. Just the facts.
Amnorix
10-26-2009, 11:58 AM
Why be redundant? Everyone else is living on it, why just put more of the exact same information out? Fox is looking for the true facts that the others ignore. Will you ever get the point?

You're kidding right? Why be redundant with other major news organizations? That's your argument?
patteeu
10-26-2009, 12:53 PM
how about the fact that the good economic news this am thats on all news outlets as a big story isn't even a side bar story on Fox. Isn't even listed on their site.

http://www.foxnews.com/

Fair and balanced? my azz. How can you ignore this economic report on jobs? It's an apolitical news item. Just the facts.

It looks like the NABE does this survey every month. Do all those other news outlets who have carried this month's report carry the NABE's results every month? Has FoxNews ever carried their survey results? These are important pieces of information if we want to assess how this affects the "fair and balanced" status of these various news outlets.
BigRedChief
10-26-2009, 01:46 PM
It looks like the NABE does this survey every month. Do all those other news outlets who have carried this month's report carry the NABE's results every month? Has FoxNews ever carried their survey results? These are important pieces of information if we want to assess how this affects the "fair and balanced" status of these various news outlets.Good questions. But its still a non-political article. But if you read it you might think things are better and thats bad for Republicans and Foix news?
SHTSPRAYER
10-26-2009, 01:48 PM
WWMD.

“What Would Mao Do?”
patteeu
10-26-2009, 01:56 PM
Good questions. But its still a non-political article. But if you read it you might think things are better and thats bad for Republicans and Foix news?

I don't think that's true at all. I read it and it didn't lead me to think things are better.
BigRedChief
10-26-2009, 02:13 PM
I don't think that's true at all. I read it and it didn't lead me to think things are better.It is not a "slanted" article or news story. It deserved to be on Fox News.
patteeu
10-26-2009, 03:19 PM
It is not a "slanted" article or news story. It deserved to be on Fox News.

It's not a news story at all. It's more like a press release.
Guru
10-26-2009, 11:38 PM
It is not a "slanted" article or news story. It deserved to be on Fox News.I don't even know what story you are talking about. I just spent 3 glorious days not watching any newschannels or local news at all. Everyone should try it.
Jenson71
10-26-2009, 11:46 PM
Watch PBS and CSPAN. Do not watch Fox News. Do not watch CNN. Do not watch MSNBC. Watch PBS and CSPAN and find good sites on the internet. Subscribe to good journals (Foreign Affairs) and magazines (The Week). Read The New York Times with a critical eye, even if it's editorials lean Democratic. The New York Times, like it or not, is the closest thing to our national newspaper and people in the know write for it and read it. Read good books. Tell all of your friends this.

Our country deserves better than Fox News and CNN and MSNBC. We deserve better than Rush Limbaugh. We are good people. We must resist the temptation of corporate-run gimmicks and celebrity bickering. Please, I urge you. Reach for the Franklin, Adams, Washington, and Jefferson in you. Corporate television news is junk food. We have an obesity problem in America. Please fight against the intellectual problem presented by television news.
Guru
10-27-2009, 12:25 AM
Watch PBS and CSPAN. Do not watch Fox News. Do not watch CNN. Do not watch MSNBC. Watch PBS and CSPAN and find good sites on the internet. Subscribe to good journals (Foreign Affairs) and magazines (The Week). Read The New York Times with a critical eye, even if it's editorials lean Democratic. The New York Times, like it or not, is the closest thing to our national newspaper and people in the know write for it and read it. Read good books. Tell all of your friends this.

Our country deserves better than Fox News and CNN and MSNBC. We deserve better than Rush Limbaugh. We are good people. We must resist the temptation of corporate-run gimmicks and celebrity bickering. Please, I urge you. Reach for the Franklin, Adams, Washington, and Jefferson in you. Corporate television news is junk food. We have an obesity problem in America. Please fight against the intellectual problem presented by television news.Now there is a statement I can get behind.:thumb:
ClevelandBronco
10-27-2009, 08:33 AM
Fair is impossible and overrated.

Balanced, yes — in their own manner. They are the right-center leaning balance against the unabashedly left-center leaning networks such as ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC...
patteeu
10-27-2009, 08:36 AM
Fair is impossible and overrated.

Balanced, yes — in their own manner. They are the right-center leaning balance against the unabashedly left-center leaning networks such as ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC...

This sounds like the right answer to me.
Guru
10-27-2009, 06:02 PM
Fair is impossible and overrated.

Balanced, yes — in their own manner. They are the right-center leaning balance against the unabashedly left-center leaning networks such as ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC...that is the part that consistently gets overlooked. If not for Fox there would be absolutely no balance to all the national broadcasts.
mlyonsd
10-27-2009, 06:23 PM
Fair is impossible and overrated.

Balanced, yes — in their own manner. They are the right-center leaning balance against the unabashedly left-center leaning networks such as ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC...

I see it the opposite.

Fair, yes - because if they post something wrong they retract it. I'm talking Special Report and Fox Sunday....those are the only things I watch, so I could be wrong. I consider any of their other shows as opinion based and I don't watch them for the same reason I don't watch Olbermann. It becomes too over the top to keep my attention.

Balanced, is where I see them off the mark. They are balanced only in the sense they make the same attempt to be balanced as the left MSM does.
mlyonsd
10-27-2009, 06:25 PM
that is the part that consistently gets overlooked. If not for Fox there would be absolutely no balance to all the national broadcasts.

In that sense I agree, they add balance to the tipping to port MSM, but within their own entity they aren't.
ILChief
10-30-2009, 04:36 AM
The American people have spoken. Just look at the ratings.

Asshole.

I think the American people spoke at the last election.
Guru
10-30-2009, 04:51 AM
I think the American people spoke at the last election.Unfortunately they did. Hopefully that gets remedied in 2010 and 2012.
Saggysack
10-30-2009, 05:45 AM
Unfortunately they did. Hopefully that gets remedied in 2010 and 2012.

It's unfortunate the American people spoke at the last election. And you hope they don't in speak up in the next couple of elections?

Did you really just say that? I think you did.
jidar
10-30-2009, 06:29 AM
CNN is a lot closer to fair than either MSNBC or Fox News.
They take a lot of flak from both sides. They do still have a slightly anti-right wing slant but that's probably because reality has an anti-right wing slant.
patteeu
10-30-2009, 07:52 AM
CNN is a lot closer to fair than either MSNBC or Fox News.
They take a lot of flak from both sides. They do still have a slightly anti-right wing slant but that's probably because reality has an anti-right wing slant.

It's pretty obvious that you're not a good judge of "fair".
Baby Lee
10-30-2009, 07:56 AM
It's unfortunate the American people spoke at the last election. And you hope they don't in speak up in the next couple of elections?

Did you really just say that? I think you did.

Seems he said something more like, 'they said something stupid in the last election and hopefully they'll say something smarter in the next.'
Saggysack
10-30-2009, 08:44 AM
Seems he said something more like, 'they said something stupid in the last election and hopefully they'll say something smarter in the next.'


This isn't a court of assumptions here, Mr. Attorney. :p

I think the American people spoke at the last election.

Unfortunately they did. Hopefully that gets remedied in 2010 and 2012.
BigRedChief
10-30-2009, 08:53 AM
It's pretty obvious that you're not a good judge of "fair".IMHO
"Fair and Balanced" doesn't = "More Fair and Balanced" than the other guys.
Chief Henry
10-30-2009, 08:57 AM
Is Obama fair and balanced?

To a Chicago inner city crack whore that goes to the weekly Acorn
meetings he is.
Chief Henry
10-30-2009, 09:01 AM
WWMD.

“What Would Mao Do?”


QFT