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Red Coater
10-26-2009, 04:40 PM
Did anyone know who Tod Haley was before Arizona went to the playoffs last year? Is he even head coach material? Or did Boldin and Fitz make him look good? Our O sucks, if he was such a good cordinator how come our looks like SH**?

Sure-Oz
10-26-2009, 04:41 PM
he taught tiger how to golf /LJ/

kstater
10-26-2009, 04:41 PM
I'm pretty sure Arizona knew who he was prior to the playoff run. They did hire him.

Bane
10-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeah he was the guy T.O yelled at on the sideline in San Fran!ROFL

Bill Lundberg
10-26-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeah he was the guy T.O yelled at on the sideline in San Fran!ROFL

FAIL.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 04:43 PM
I heard about him in Dallas. And I know Fitz said Haley made him look good.

The Bad Guy
10-26-2009, 04:44 PM
It's like putting a Nascar driver in a broken down el camino. I don't know how you can accurately criticize his skills until we get some real talent around him to coach.

Bane
10-26-2009, 04:44 PM
FAIL.

Uh its the truth.

MahiMike
10-26-2009, 04:45 PM
He's the man that will take this sorry franchise to the BIG game. THAT's who he is!!!

chiefzilla1501
10-26-2009, 04:46 PM
His resume isn't that much different from Josh McDaniels or Mike Tomlin.

WhitiE
10-26-2009, 04:47 PM
Uh its the truth.

i thought it was dallas, but wtf do i know?

Saccopoo
10-26-2009, 04:47 PM
Our O sucks, if he was such a good cordinator how come our looks like SH**?

Because it's made up of first day cutdown castoffs from mediocre teams. Because Carl decided that he would draft a college guard with the #15 overall pick and make him the starting left tackle. Because Herm went with a "youth movement" concept and let Casey Weigmann walk to the Broncos and a Pro Bowl. Because Carl pissed off Tait. Because Will Shields never missed a game. Because Roaf was so dominant that it made Waters look like a Pro Bowl level guy. Because we have the absolute worst offensive line in the NFL, and even Casey Printers couldn't make this collection of misfits into chicken salad.

BigMeatballDave
10-26-2009, 04:48 PM
WE HAVE LITTLE TALENT ON THIS TEAM!

Weather Haley is a good coach remains to be seen...

Bane
10-26-2009, 04:51 PM
i thought it was dallas, but wtf do i know?

Maybe Im wrong.I could swear it was when he was OC in San Fran and T.O went off on him on the sidelines.Either way I just threw it in for fun,Im still a Haley fan.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 04:53 PM
I'm pretty sure Arizona knew who he was prior to the playoff run. They did hire him.

I'm talking about us, Chiefs fans or football fans in general.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 04:57 PM
should we have waited another year to have better Head Coach options. Was Haley the best option?

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 04:58 PM
Maybe Im wrong.I could swear it was when he was OC in San Fran and T.O went off on him on the sidelines.Either way I just threw it in for fun,Im still a Haley fan.

So Haley was your #1 choice for HC

Bane
10-26-2009, 04:59 PM
should we have waited another year to have better Head Coach options. Was Haley the best option?

I think for a team in rebuild mode we made a good choice.I say wait till next year around this time and ask again.

Bane
10-26-2009, 05:01 PM
So Haley was your #1 choice for HC

No he wasn't.

JuicesFlowing
10-26-2009, 05:01 PM
It's like putting a Nascar driver in a broken down el camino. I don't know how you can accurately criticize his skills until we get some real talent around him to coach.

I agree.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:15 PM
Fitz and Boldin were good players. So he made Fitz better, that doesn't mean he will be a good HC.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:20 PM
Yeah making players better doesn't make you a good coach. The Cards offense wasn't as good before Haley got there and its not as good after he left.

Brock
10-26-2009, 05:22 PM
Whether he's got enough talent or not, some of his calls are screwy. Like to the point that you're amazed at the stupidity of it when you're watching.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Yeah making players better doesn't make you a good coach. The Cards offense wasn't as good before Haley got there and its not as good after he left.

they were good for one year. I said that doesn't mean he will be a good Head Coach.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:24 PM
We just need a better line plane and simple. Haley could call the same exact plays with the 03 Chiefs and we would still be a top offense.

KCUnited
10-26-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm more concerned about the shit for brains running the defense than I am Haley.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:25 PM
they were good for one year. I said that doesn't mean he will be a good Head Coach.

I'm not talking about the Cardinals, I'm talking about their offense. You know the part Haley actually coached... their offense wasn't only good one year under him.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:25 PM
A good coach makes things work.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm not talking about the Cardinals, I'm talking about their offense. You know the part Haley actually coached... their offense wasn't only good one year under him.

I think Fitz and Boldin made that O good. A coach with great players don't have to be good.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:28 PM
A good coach makes things work.

Not the first year with a team this bad. Good coaches get the best out of talent, and the talent needs to want to be coached. Our most talented players like LJ don't want to be coached. Yeah great coaches can get away with lesser talent who want to be successful, but they can't with no talent. ESPECIALLY so early in the first season.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:28 PM
I think Fitz and Boldin made that O good. A coach with great players don't have to be good.

With that Logic the Chargers would have a couple Super Bowl trophies right now.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-26-2009, 05:30 PM
His resume isn't that much different from Josh McDaniels or Mike Tomlin.

LMAOLMAO

Brock
10-26-2009, 05:30 PM
He might not be able to win with this lineup, but he could at least show some good decision making ability.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:31 PM
With that Logic the Chargers would have a couple Super Bowl trophies right now.

you can't compare Fitz and Boldin to the Chargers WR's. Fitz and Boldin are game breakers.

RustShack
10-26-2009, 05:33 PM
you can't compare Fitz and Boldin to the Chargers WR's. Fitz and Boldin are game breakers.

I'm not comparing them to their WR's at all. I'm saying for awhile they were the most talented team in the NFL, talent isn't everything.

Brock
10-26-2009, 05:33 PM
you can't compare Fitz and Boldin to the Chargers WR's. Fitz and Boldin are game breakers.

You're avoiding the point. The Chargers have had enough talent to win super bowls in years past, but their coaching wasn't up to the job.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:34 PM
I just not feeling to good about Haley. Unless we trade for Boldin and Fitz

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:36 PM
You're avoiding the point. The Chargers have had enough talent to win super bowls in years past, but their coaching wasn't up to the job.

who did you want for HC? Where was Haley on your list?

Bane
10-26-2009, 05:37 PM
I just not feeling to good about Haley. Unless we trade for Boldin and Fitz

Either trade would cost us a lot of picks.

Brock
10-26-2009, 05:37 PM
who did you want for HC? Where was Haley on your list?

He wasn't on my list at all.

Gadzooks
10-26-2009, 05:37 PM
You're avoiding the point. The Chargers have had enough talent to win super bowls in years past, but their coaching wasn't up to the job.

Marty wasn't up to the job. Norf has had injury issues and bad luck. I don't think Tomlin or anyone else would have gotten the Chargers a SB last year.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:40 PM
He wasn't on my list at all.

how did your list look like?

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:42 PM
Either trade would cost us a lot of picks.

Yea, It sucks being a Chiefs fan

Brock
10-26-2009, 05:42 PM
how did your list look like?

1. Spag

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 05:44 PM
What makes Haley a good HC?

Bane
10-26-2009, 05:45 PM
Yea, It sucks being a Chiefs fan

I don't really think so.I hate the losing,no playoff wins,and our inability to develop a Qb of our own but Im having no problem being a Chiefs fan.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 06:04 PM
I don't really think so.I hate the losing,no playoff wins,and our inability to develop a Qb of our own but Im having no problem being a Chiefs fan.

Iwill be a Chiefs fan till the day I die, it still sucks though.

Bane
10-26-2009, 06:05 PM
Iwill be a Chiefs fan till the day I die, it still sucks though.

:thumb:

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 06:09 PM
:thumb:

would you take O- player or D- player with our first pick?

Bane
10-26-2009, 06:12 PM
would you take O- player or D- player with our first pick?

Im not in the best player on the board boat,and I think we need O line help more than anything else.Having said that everyone says you don't take a OT as high as our first rounder will be,so I don't know.I think if it were up to me Id go with Berry with our first rounder but I damn well would go O line with both 2nd rounders.

Bill Lundberg
10-26-2009, 06:13 PM
Maybe Im wrong.I could swear it was when he was OC in San Fran and T.O went off on him on the sidelines.Either way I just threw it in for fun,Im still a Haley fan.

He was never the OC in San Fran.

Bane
10-26-2009, 06:14 PM
He was never the OC in San Fran.

Well my bad,me being wrong isn't that rare.I am sorry.Guess I just thought that guy looked like Haley.

Red Coater
10-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Im not in the best player on the board boat,and I think we need O line help more than anything else.Having said that everyone says you don't take a OT as high as our first rounder will be,so I don't know.I think if it were up to me Id go with Berry with our first rounder but I damn well would go O line with both 2nd rounders.

our O-line sucks, maybe we can help the line with some FA's

Bane
10-26-2009, 06:24 PM
our O-line sucks, maybe we can help the line with some FA's

I don't care where they get the help as long as they just get it.ROFL

Hog Farmer
10-26-2009, 07:22 PM
A good coach makes things work.

I agree. I'm sick and tired of hearing this team has no talent. Thats bullshit!

Our coaching sucks ,plain and simple.!

I really wish Cowher could find a way here. HC or DC.

Haley is going to only make this team worse. Oops , he already has!

Page and Pollard were a hella of a lot better than Mcgraw/Brown and trading Gonzo was just FUCKING stupid!

If he cuts DJ I'm fucking done! Sitting him is just fucking stupid!

Hog Farmer
10-26-2009, 07:24 PM
I know ! Lets go for it on 4th and 1 on our own 40 in the first fucking qtr. DUUUUHHHH!

tonyetony
10-26-2009, 07:44 PM
The retention of Krumrie and firing of Gailey aren't real good signs of Haley's assistant coaching evaluation skills, in my opinion.