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Claynus
10-27-2009, 12:09 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1531813.html

Injury update on Niswanger, Albert

Haley said center Rudy Niswanger’s injured left knee was being examined Monday, and he is not expected to be available for the game at Jacksonville.

Although Wade Smith moved from left tackle and replaced Niswanger against San Diego, he may not play the position against Jacksonville. Haley said backup lineman Andy Alleman is a possibility to play, as well as a practice-squad player Darryl Harris.

“We have some center options, Wade being one of them,” Haley said.

Haley also said starting left tackle Branden Albert, who has missed the last two games because of an ankle injury, is expected to practice this week and be available for Jacksonville.

pr_capone
10-27-2009, 12:10 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1531813.html

Injury update on Niswanger, Albert

Haley said center Rudy Niswanger’s injured left knee was being examined Monday, and he is not expected to be available for the game at Jacksonville.

Although Wade Smith moved from left tackle and replaced Niswanger against San Diego, he may not play the position against Jacksonville. Haley said backup lineman Andy Alleman is a possibility to play, as well as a practice-squad player Darryl Harris.

“We have some center options, Wade being one of them,” Haley said.

Haley also said starting left tackle Branden Albert, who has missed the last two games because of an ankle injury, is expected to practice this week and be available for Jacksonville.

Hope someone takes the spot from him.

SNR
10-27-2009, 12:12 AM
You know what? I'm actually looking forward to that Jacksonville game. Some new bodies like Harris on that line is what we need.

Not expecting anything spectacular, but maybe... just maybe... it will be an improvement.

And hell, with a new starting RB who the hell knows?

BossChief
10-27-2009, 12:23 AM
it sure would be sweet if Wade Smith solidifies the starting center position and Rudy is inserted at RG whenever he returns.

This isnt a total abortion of a oline:

Albert
Waters
Smith
Rudy
Ocallahan

SNR
10-27-2009, 12:35 AM
it sure would be sweet if Wade Smith solidifies the starting center position and Rudy is inserted at RG whenever he returns.

This isnt a total abortion of a oline:

Albert
Waters
Smith
Rudy
OcallahanIt's still pretty awful

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 12:36 AM
it sure would be sweet if Wade Smith solidifies the starting center position and Rudy is inserted at RG whenever he returns.

This isnt a total abortion of a oline:

Albert
Waters
Smith
Rudy
Ocallahan

Harris is a far better guard that Niswanger.

And Richardson may be a better left tackle than Albert, which may require Albert to move inside to LG.

FUCK Waters. He's not the future, anyway.

MadMax
10-27-2009, 12:43 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1531813.html

Injury update on Niswanger, Albert

Haley said center Rudy Niswanger’s injured left knee was being examined Monday, and he is not expected to be available for the game at Jacksonville.

Although Wade Smith moved from left tackle and replaced Niswanger against San Diego, he may not play the position against Jacksonville. Haley said backup lineman Andy Alleman is a possibility to play, as well as a practice-squad player Darryl Harris.

“We have some center options, Wade being one of them,” Haley said.

Haley also said starting left tackle Branden Albert, who has missed the last two games because of an ankle injury, is expected to practice this week and be available for Jacksonville.



Oh noes he had such a nice wanger... what to do? nyuck nyuck nyuck says the 3 stooges.............. Now Matty has even more excuses to fail....

BossChief
10-27-2009, 12:49 AM
It's still pretty awful

and sadly enough might be the best line weve trotted out there in some time...

man how we miss "the line of fame"

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-27-2009, 12:53 AM
Normally, it's poor form to wish injury on others. But given his proclivity for exposing many others to injury due to his incompetence, and the coaching staff's reluctance to remove a dangerous and ineffective player, I have only one response:

http://i29.tinypic.com/348slr5.jpg

Claynus
10-27-2009, 12:56 AM
Normally, it's poor form to wish injury on others. But given his proclivity for exposing many others to injury due to his incompetence, and the coaching staff's reluctance to remove a dangerous and ineffective player, I have only one response:

http://i29.tinypic.com/348slr5.jpg

Hamas' work here is done.

http://i34.tinypic.com/2qwlbhu.gif

BossChief
10-27-2009, 01:00 AM
Harris is a far better guard that Niswanger.

And Richardson may be a better left tackle than Albert, which may require Albert to move inside to LG.

**** Waters. He's not the future, anyway.

Harris has never played RG according to his KCChiefs bio, what are you basing your opinion on (Im not trying to challenge you, honestly want to be better informed) Rudy played very well at RG when he played there a year or so ago.

Barry Richardson is in no way shape or form a better LT than Albert.

The longer he plays, the higher the chance of injuries to our backs and Cassel. IMHO

Didnt Barry gave up the two sacks to Phillips?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-27-2009, 01:00 AM
That due whose gif you keep using fucking freaks me out.

What movie did you get it from? I need to know so I can go to his house and kill him in his sleep...if he sleeps.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-27-2009, 01:02 AM
Harris has never played RG according to his KCChiefs bio, what are you basing your opinion on (Im not trying to challenge you, honestly want to be better informed) Rudy played very well at RG when he played there a year or so ago.

Barry Richardson is in no way shape or form a better LT than Albert.

The longer he plays, the higher the chance of injuries to our backs and Cassel. IMHO

Didnt Barry gave up the two sacks to Phillips?

Phillips got both his sacks against Goff. Merriman was largely shut down by B-Rich.

chiefs1111
10-27-2009, 01:02 AM
great while they are it,put Goff's ass on the bench as well

BossChief
10-27-2009, 01:02 AM
That due whose gif you keep using, ****ing freaks me out.

What movie did you get it from? I need to know so I can go to his house and kill him in his sleep...if he sleeps.

I was just gonna ask him where he got that from, it sure is creepy...

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 01:06 AM
Harris has never played RG according to his KCChiefs bio, what are you basing your opinion on (Im not trying to challenge you, honestly want to be better informed) Rudy played very well at RG when he played there a year or so ago.

Barry Richardson is in no way shape or form a better LT than Albert.

The longer he plays, the higher the chance of injuries to our backs and Cassel. IMHO

Didnt Barry gave up the two sacks to Phillips?

Ugh.

Harris played all five positions in college. He excelled at left guard in preseason but I have no doubt that with his size and athleticism, he could fill a need at LG, RG and even RT. With a transition period, of course.

Richardson, for a 6th round pick on the 53 for a short period of time played extremely well. He didn't commit any penalties that I recall and he didn't shit his pants.

Look, I want to see PROGRESS, not perfection on the offensive line. And Smith at center and Richardson at LT actually showed a little something.

Now, if Cassel could actually hit the open receiver, we might be on to something.

Claynus
10-27-2009, 01:06 AM
That due whose gif you keep using, fucking freaks me out.

What movie did you get it from? I need to know so I can go to his house and kill him in his sleep...if he sleeps.

The only way to kill Count Zarth is to blow up his space station.

http://i35.tinypic.com/fyfuib.gif

It's Star Crash. The movie sucks but it's so bad it's entertaining as hell...and Count Zarth is hilarious. It also stars Christopher Plummer and David Hasselhoff.

And a great set of tits:

http://www.mbgilbride.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/caroline_munro2.jpg

BossChief
10-27-2009, 01:06 AM
Phillips got both his sacks against Goff. Merriman was largely shut down by B-Rich.

McSack could have handled that turd yesterday.

He has not been the same since he quit the roids IMHO, just like John Welborn back in the day. Probowler on the Eagles while on the juice, he goes to KC and still juices till his retirement (or s I immediatly speculated and was proven to be true, he failed a drug test and wanted to hide it and CP helped out), then comes back like a shell of his former self a short while later.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 01:08 AM
McSack could have handled that turd yesterday.

He has not been the same since he quit the roids IMHO, just like John Welborn back in the day. Probowler on the Eagles while on the juice, he goes to KC and still juices till his retirement (or s I immediatly speculated and was proven to be true, he failed a drug test and wanted to hide it and CP helped out), then comes back like a shell of his former self a short while later.

You're moving the goalposts.

Did Richardson perform well or did Merriman suck?

Either way, you're acting like a cockbag.

SNR
10-27-2009, 01:18 AM
You're moving the goalposts.

Did Richardson perform well or did Merriman suck?

Either way, you're acting like a cockbag.Little bit of both, wouldn't you say?

BossChief
10-27-2009, 01:28 AM
You're moving the goalposts.

Did Richardson perform well or did Merriman suck?

Either way, you're acting like a cockbag.

Merriman has no sacks so far this year at about the halfway point, so no Im not, I will be very very blunt and clear about my opinion on BR, so it doesnt get misconstrued:

I think Barry Richardson is a pos, I dont think he will ever amount to a good OT.

He got replaced by a true freshman in college and might have gone undrafted if it werent for us.

I saw nothing from him up until this game... no knee bend and a consistant "lunger" doesnt use his arms effectively, seems to be a trex ot. Hopefully, he has improved his technique drastically, but to me I think he is out of the NFL in a couple years if not sooner.

I will get back to this after I painfully rewatch the recording of the game, specifically the part he played.

If he amounts to anything, I will be surprised as hell.

is that "moving the goalposts"

Ill eat my crow if Im wrong, always do.

gblowfish
10-27-2009, 08:47 AM
Nothing worse than spraining your Niswanger.

TheGuardian
10-27-2009, 09:20 AM
Yes please let it be season ending! Niswanger is teh most suxor center EVER!

Fish
10-27-2009, 09:21 AM
So something good did happen in the game.....

Mr. Laz
10-27-2009, 09:48 AM
Although Wade Smith moved from left tackle and replaced Niswanger against San Diego, he may not play the position against Jacksonville. Haley said backup lineman Andy Alleman is a possibility to play, as well as a practice-squad player Darryl Harris.

“We have some center options, Wade being one of them,” Haley said.

Haley also said starting left tackle Branden Albert, who has missed the last two games because of an ankle injury, is expected to practice this week and be available for Jacksonville.
Why does Haley always avoid the obvious gawd dam solution :banghead:


Wade at center, Alleman at RG


he insists on keeping niswanger and Goff in the lineup


i don't think i like this Muir guy much. :#

Chief Faithful
10-27-2009, 09:52 AM
Phillips got both his sacks against Goff. Merriman was largely shut down by B-Rich.

Not sure what to make of that because Merriman has been shut down by everyone since he stopped taking his special supplement.

Pestilence
10-27-2009, 09:56 AM
Why does Haley always avoid the obvious gawd dam solution :banghead:


Wade at center, Alleman at RG


he insists on keeping niswanger and Goff in the lineup


i don't think i like this Muir guy much. :#

I would put Wade at OC and Ndukwe at RG. Ndukwe played RG for the Dolphins last year and didn't do to bad IIRC.

CoMoChief
10-27-2009, 09:57 AM
Personally I'd like to try this....esp if they think Albert's weight and lack of strength is what's causing his sophomore slump so to speak.

LT Richardson
LG Albert
OC Smith
RG Waters
RT whatever sacraficial goat you wanna put out there.

BossChief
10-27-2009, 09:59 AM
it almost seems like the oline is the worst combination of available talent doesnt it?

CH13FS
10-27-2009, 10:22 AM
[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;6211096

FUCK Waters. He's not the future, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Move waters to center, which he's played, albert to lg, and richardson or smith to lt.

Mr. Laz
10-27-2009, 10:25 AM
I would put Wade at OC and Ndukwe at RG. Ndukwe played RG for the Dolphins last year and didn't do to bad IIRC.Ndukwe was at RG for us earlier this year and kinda sucked?

maybe he just needs more time but Alleman looked good when he replace Goff.

Albert (i guess, he's been playing like crap though)
Waters
Wade
Alleman
O'callaghan

Frosty
10-27-2009, 10:31 AM
Ndukwe was at RG for us earlier this year and kinda sucked?


RT. I don't think he has played guard for the Chiefs yet.

Mr. Laz
10-27-2009, 10:46 AM
RT. I don't think he has played guard for the Chiefs yet.hmmm ... i thought he played both.

not positive though

Frosty
10-27-2009, 10:52 AM
The only time Goff's been out of the line-up, N-dookie was inactive. Alleman filled in for Goff.

patteeu
10-27-2009, 10:58 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1531813.html

Injury update on Niswanger, Albert

Haley said center Rudy Niswanger’s injured left knee was being examined Monday, and he is not expected to be available for the game at Jacksonville.

Although Wade Smith moved from left tackle and replaced Niswanger against San Diego, he may not play the position against Jacksonville. Haley said backup lineman Andy Alleman is a possibility to play, as well as a practice-squad player Darryl Harris.

“We have some center options, Wade being one of them,” Haley said.

Haley also said starting left tackle Branden Albert, who has missed the last two games because of an ankle injury, is expected to practice this week and be available for Jacksonville.

Ironic that this guy might get his chance the week that one of his fanboys, TFG, gets banned from the site.

Mr. Laz
10-27-2009, 11:08 AM
The only time Goff's been out of the line-up, N-dookie was inactive. Alleman filled in for Goff.
fair enough ... muh bad.

LaChapelle
10-27-2009, 11:20 AM
Wasn't Wade at LT before Rudy got injured. That may explain some of Cassel's poor throws. Wade shit his pants at LT and when he was moved to center the fumes fucked with Matt's eyes.

JASONSAUTO
10-27-2009, 11:31 AM
Ironic that this guy might get his chance the week that one of his fanboys, TFG, gets banned from the site.

WHAT happened with tfg?

patteeu
10-27-2009, 11:55 AM
WHAT happened with tfg?

He got banned in DC. I don't think he did anything specifically against the rules, but there were a lot of people whining about the way he posted over there (which was considerably different than the way he posts over here). I don't have much sympathy for him, but it would have been nice if he'd been able to keep posting over here now that there's a chance that his boy might make the roster. It's probably just a temp ban so maybe he'll be back.

googlegoogle
10-27-2009, 12:24 PM
Scary thought - how bad are these replacements?

RINGLEADER
10-27-2009, 05:48 PM
You know what? I'm actually looking forward to that Jacksonville game. Some new bodies like Harris on that line is what we need.

Not expecting anything spectacular, but maybe... just maybe... it will be an improvement.

And hell, with a new starting RB who the hell knows?

That's sort of what happened when DV finally opened his eyes and realized that Priest Holmes was a monster. For all we know the practice squad scrub could be the second-coming of Casey Wiggum...

chiefzilla1501
10-27-2009, 06:03 PM
Ndukwe was at RG for us earlier this year and kinda sucked?

maybe he just needs more time but Alleman looked good when he replace Goff.

Albert (i guess, he's been playing like crap though)
Waters
Wade
Alleman
O'callaghan

I think Albert will get better as the year goes on. He got away with a lot of poor technique last year due to being a spread offense and especially because he played at a higher weight. At least we know he has the athleticism--he just needs to work on limiting the mistakes and working on consistent technique.

Smith can at least play average, whereas Niswanger is garbage at Center.

Alleman isn't a great guard, but he's a huge upgrade over Goff who is an abortion on almost every single play.

This o-line isn't going to be great. But I think it can be upgraded to serviceable if only Haley had the guts to put the right 5 on the field. I don't get it. Smith outplayed Niswanger on Sunday by miles. And Goff has been fucking up all season long. I just don't get why it's taken him so long to make a move.

chiefzilla1501
10-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Wasn't Wade at LT before Rudy got injured. That may explain some of Cassel's poor throws. Wade shit his pants at LT and when he was moved to center the fumes ****ed with Matt's eyes.

Smith played very well in the second half. A big reason Cassel had a clean pocket to work with for most of the half for the first time all season.

RustShack
10-27-2009, 06:08 PM
Albert-Waters-Alleman-Ndukwe-O'Callaghan

OR Smith at C and Alleman at RG.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 06:11 PM
Albert-Waters-Alleman-Ndukwe-O'Callaghan

OR Smith at C and Alleman at RG.

Alleman CANNOT play center. He's got back issues.

Hell, he had back spasms after playing GUARD against the Cowboys.

The guy has talent but he's never been healthy.

RustShack
10-27-2009, 06:13 PM
Alleman CANNOT play center. He's got back issues.

Hell, he had back spasms after playing GUARD against the Cowboys.

The guy has talent but he's never been healthy.

Unless hes playing a 3-4 defense he would be better off at C than G then. Hell even against a 3-4 he wouldn't be the only guy against the NT.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 06:15 PM
Unless hes playing a 3-4 defense he would be better off at C than G then. Hell even against a 3-4 he wouldn't be the only guy against the NT.

It DOES NOT MATTER.

Do you know ANYTHING about the guy, or just his name?

He's had back issues dating back to college. Why do you think the Miami Dolphins traded him? He cannot stay healthy.

JFC.

TEX
10-27-2009, 06:18 PM
it sure would be sweet if Wade Smith solidifies the starting center position and Rudy is inserted at RG whenever he returns.

This isnt a total abortion of a oline:

Albert
Waters
Smith
Rudy
Ocallahan


It's pretty close.

RustShack
10-27-2009, 06:19 PM
The Chiefs must think he has game if they still have him. He must think he has game if he hasn't retired. Play him until he gets hurt, theres no point in having a guy on the roster if your afraid to use him.

TEX
10-27-2009, 06:19 PM
I think Albert will get better as the year goes on. He got away with a lot of poor technique last year due to being a spread offense and especially because he played at a higher weight. At least we know he has the athleticism--he just needs to work on limiting the mistakes and working on consistent technique.

Smith can at least play average, whereas Niswanger is garbage at Center.

Alleman isn't a great guard, but he's a huge upgrade over Goff who is an abortion on almost every single play.

This o-line isn't going to be great. But I think it can be upgraded to serviceable if only Haley had the guts to put the right 5 on the field. I don't get it. Smith outplayed Niswanger on Sunday by miles. And Goff has been ****ing up all season long. I just don't get why it's taken him so long to make a move.

I bet Albert's not the starting LT 2 years from now.

chiefzilla1501
10-27-2009, 06:21 PM
I bet Albert's not the starting LT 2 years from now.

I'm not even making that bet.

He has to learn technique. He's not going to learn it right away. If he doesn't learn it, he doesn't play. If he does, he plays. But it's hard to imagine he won't get at least a little better as he becomes more consistent with technique. And right now, I just want improvement from stopgaps until we can finally get some real pieces.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 06:26 PM
The Chiefs must think he has game if they still have him. He must think he has game if he hasn't retired. Play him until he gets hurt, theres no point in having a guy on the roster if your afraid to use him.

Dude, he's not a fucking center.

End of story.

Elwaysux
10-27-2009, 06:51 PM
Alleman played in 15 games with the Fins, he couldn't have been that beat up. He is only 3 years out of college. The only time he was listed on the injury report was for a shoulder. I'd put him in at RG for Goff and be done with it.

milkman
10-27-2009, 06:59 PM
Harris is a far better guard that Niswanger.

And Richardson may be a better left tackle than Albert, which may require Albert to move inside to LG.

**** Waters. He's not the future, anyway.

Richardson has had years playing LT with the proper technique, and he's solid, but, while he may be better right now because he has that experience, Albert still has far more potential.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 07:01 PM
Alleman played in 15 games with the Fins, he couldn't have been that beat up. He is only 3 years out of college. The only time he was listed on the injury report was for a shoulder. I'd put him in at RG for Goff and be done with it.

Except for fact that he couldn't practice on Tuesday following the Cowboys game because he had back spasms after only a few series.

Do any of you guys actually FOLLOW the Chiefs?

http://www.kffl.com/player/16316/nfl

Check out how many practices he's misses due to shoulder injuries and back spasms.

The guy can't stay healthy.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 07:02 PM
Richardson has had years playing LT with the proper technique, and he's solid, but, while he may be better right now because he has that experience, Albert still has far more potential.

I'm with you. Albert has more potential.

Let's just hope he can live up to it.

milkman
10-27-2009, 07:03 PM
Personally I'd like to try this....esp if they think Albert's weight and lack of strength is what's causing his sophomore slump so to speak.

LT Richardson
LG Albert
OC Smith
RG Waters
RT whatever sacraficial goat you wanna put out there.

So you want to move a guy who's struggling because of weight loss to guard?

ROFL

milkman
10-27-2009, 07:09 PM
I think Albert will get better as the year goes on. He got away with a lot of poor technique last year due to being a spread offense and especially because he played at a higher weight. At least we know he has the athleticism--he just needs to work on limiting the mistakes and working on consistent technique.

Smith can at least play average, whereas Niswanger is garbage at Center.

Alleman isn't a great guard, but he's a huge upgrade over Goff who is an abortion on almost every single play.

This o-line isn't going to be great. But I think it can be upgraded to serviceable if only Haley had the guts to put the right 5 on the field. I don't get it. Smith outplayed Niswanger on Sunday by miles. And Goff has been ****ing up all season long. I just don't get why it's taken him so long to make a move.

The interesting thing in watching Albert's attempt to learn technique is he's actually showing just how athletic he is while struggling.

He's setting up with his feet too wide, and most guys can't keep their bodies up to get their hands on the defender when they do that.

Albert, however is getting his body too high.

That is incredibly difficult.

boogblaster
10-27-2009, 07:10 PM
Noswagger is where he's needed ..... soakin' joints in a hot-tub ....