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Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:10 PM
http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/14304/20091027/breaking_news_chiefs_to_release_larry_johnson/

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The league and the team are investigating a pair of recent incidents, including one where Johnson used a gay slur. This is not the first time Johnson has gotten himself in trouble by using a gay slur, having had to apologize for the same offense last season. He was forced to apologize for this, as well as for negative comments directed at head coach Todd Haley. Haley has thus far refused comment.

The team has barred Johnson from any contact with the team.

This is a precursory move before the team formally releases Johnson before the end of the week, according to the source.

Part of the delay in releasing him involves going through the NFL’s disciplinary investigation, but the source was adamant that Larry Johnson has played his last game in Kansas City. [READ] (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:rgmow%28%27/rgmow.php?aid=14304%27,%2714304%27%29)</td></tr></tbody></table>
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Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:11 PM
More good stuff here:

http://www.sbnation.com/2009/10/27/1103259/larry-johnson-chiefs-banned-team-activities#real-gm-chiefs-release-johnson

petegz28
10-27-2009, 09:12 PM
Well, if this is true then the Chiefs just made a huge step in the right direction.

Buck
10-27-2009, 09:14 PM
Shit

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:14 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?

Mr_Tomahawk
10-27-2009, 09:14 PM
Wow...this would make my day.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?

No, not now. And it wouldn't matter anyway because the Chiefs are currently $29 million under the cap.

Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?

I don't think so, he eff'ed himself out of any guaranteed money for '09 and '10 with last year's screw up.

Mr. Plow
10-27-2009, 09:15 PM
Fuggin Sweet!

petegz28
10-27-2009, 09:15 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?

Who gives a fuck??? I would pay another team to take him right now.

Pioli Zombie
10-27-2009, 09:16 PM
Like pinching a loaf.
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DeezNutz
10-27-2009, 09:16 PM
Just makes me think about the fact that we re-signed this dipshit instead of trading him when he had max value.

Depressing.

BigRedChief
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?No. We have to spend some money to get up to the minimum level for this year.

Reerun_KC
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
Damn and all that cockholstering GoChiefs did for LJ................

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
I don't think so, he eff'ed himself out of any guaranteed money for '09 and '10 with last year's screw up.

How'd he manage that?!? (please excuse my ignorism)

Reerun_KC
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
Just makes me think about the fact that we re-signed this dipshit instead of trading him when he had max value.

Depressing.
Part of the Carl shafting of the franchise on his way out the door....

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg

gblowfish
10-27-2009, 09:17 PM
Buh Bye, Leon.

Saleenman607
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
Watch the foolio land in donkey town and run up major yardage on us.......our luck

Fire Me Boy!
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
http://www.theboxset.com/images/reviewcaptures/612capture_tombstone03.jpg

Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
How'd he manage that?!? (please excuse my ignorism)

Spitting on hoes breeched his contract

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
Shit

Looks like GoChiefs lost that bet.

BigRedChief
10-27-2009, 09:18 PM
Just makes me think about the fact that we re-signed this dipshit instead of trading him when he had max value.

Depressing.No chit. That calls for a good ole fashioned .....

DAMNIT CARL! :cuss:

Stinger
10-27-2009, 09:19 PM
Damn and all that cockholstering GoChiefs did for LJ................


Stay Down Bitch!!!!!!!!!!!

Buck
10-27-2009, 09:19 PM
Looks like GoChiefs lost that bet.

LJ is still leading that...

I'm worried he is going to sign elsewhere and run for more yards.

BillSelfsTrophycase
10-27-2009, 09:20 PM
I'm no capologist but, wouldn't that be a huge cap hit?

They're far enough under the cap that it doesn't really matter. Not like they were gonna be making any major signings before the end of the year anyway.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:20 PM
If he signs with anyone he'll be a backup that rarely plays...

mikeyis4dcats.
10-27-2009, 09:20 PM
I'll believe it when i see it. I don't see them doing anything until and unless the league suspends him.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:21 PM
It never made any sense why he was on the team to start the year, so honestly...who cares.

dirk digler
10-27-2009, 09:21 PM
Just makes me think about the fact that we re-signed this dipshit instead of trading him when he had max value.

Depressing.

I agree. BTW love your new avatar. ;)

Sure-Oz
10-27-2009, 09:22 PM
If he signs with anyone he'll be a backup that rarely plays...

I wonder what team would sign him, NE?

Reerun_KC
10-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Stay Down Bitch!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep... I am sure he hears that alot.... "Stay Down Bitch, I havent finished yet!"

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-27-2009, 09:23 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/2diedzt.jpg

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:23 PM
I wonder what team would sign him, NE?

Teams that might take a look at him to spell their back or something like that umm..

Cincy might, Seattle, Matt Forte has been so bad I wouldn't rule out Chicago either.

DeezNutz
10-27-2009, 09:23 PM
I wonder what team would sign him, NE?

Does the Hoodie miss the smell of Pioli's taint as much as Scott misses his?

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Hey, I'm first on the “Fuck LJ bandwagon” but how could it benefit the Chiefs to straight out cut him?
(BTW - I think BUCK wins the pouting in SD bet automatically over Claythan if LJ is no longer a Chief)

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:25 PM
LJ isn't any good anymore, no one is going to trade a damn thing for him, they are just going to have to cut him whether it's now or after the year.

LaChapelle
10-27-2009, 09:25 PM
Former Chiefs coach Marty Schottenheimer said he would not be surprised to see the Chiefs run Larry Johnson "right out of town."

Speaking on his SIRIUS NFL Radio show today, Schottenheimer said of Johnson, who is being held out of team activities after his use of homophobic slurs the last two days:

"Maybe he thinks that he can force his way out (of Kansas City). Let me ask you this, of the other 31 teams in the National Football League, who in the world is going to bring him into their locker room?

"Whether they’re losing or, certainly they won’t if they’re winning. But, to me, the guy doesn’t have the skill level to warrant the kind of b.s. that they’re putting up with out there and I would not be surprised to see them run him right out of town.

"You know, at some point in time you’ve got to stand up for what you believe in. You know, you’re charged as a head coach and as a general manager (to) make tough decisions.

"Hell, anybody can make easy decisions. Make the tough decisions. Make sure there’s consistency about the way you go through that thing and ultimately you’ll be far further ahead than you might otherwise be.”

Schottenheimer expects Johnson to receive
at least a one-game suspension, whether it's from the Chiefs or the league.

"The bottom line is this," Schottenheimer said. "We’re either in this thing together or we’re not. Larry Johnson at this point in time, at the very least, warrants a one-game suspension and quite frankly maybe more than that.”



-Bamm Morris was shocked

Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:26 PM
Hey, I'm first on the “**** LJ bandwagon” but how could it benefit the Chiefs to straight out cut him?
(BTW - I think BUCK wins the pouting in SD bet automatically over Claythan if LJ is no longer a Chief)

It benefits them by sending the message that shit like this will not be tolerated, no matter who you are. No individual is bigger than the team.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:27 PM
LJ isn't any good anymore, no one is going to trade a damn thing for him, they are just going to have to cut him whether it's now or after the year.

So why not keep him for the year and make his life a living hell. He's getting paid regardless...

stlchiefs
10-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Why give him what he wants? Just bench the POS every week.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:27 PM
It benefits them by sending the message that shit like this will not be tolerated, no matter who you are. No individual is bigger than the team.

That's nice and all but for the most part players don't care, if they are good enough another team will sign them.

irishjayhawk
10-27-2009, 09:28 PM
Just makes me think about the fact that we re-signed this dipshit instead of trading him when he had max value.

Depressing.

Yep. And I was so on that bandwagon when it was circling around the camp.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:28 PM
So why not keep him for the year and make his life a living hell. He's getting paid regardless...

They should have cut him before the year, but cutting him does save a bit of a headache.

soundmind
10-27-2009, 09:28 PM
I will open 5 more beers if this is true.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:29 PM
Why give him what he wants? Just bench the POS every week.

Yeah.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:29 PM
I will open 5 more beers if this is true.

Your liver cries.

Chiefs=Good
10-27-2009, 09:30 PM
Larry's story is an interesting yet sad one.. A player that had so much promise meets his untimely demsie through a combination of Herm and ego... Sad...

Sure-Oz
10-27-2009, 09:31 PM
He's been cut in alot of fantasy leagues and earlier this year i traded him straight up for jay cutler lol

Fritz88
10-27-2009, 09:31 PM
release!!!! wait and trade him for anything,,,.in the mean while bench his butt

dirk digler
10-27-2009, 09:31 PM
LJ isn't any good anymore, no one is going to trade a damn thing for him, they are just going to have to cut him whether it's now or after the year.

I call BS. I hear teams are lining to give the Chiefs 2 first rounders for LJ

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Larry's story is an interesting yet sad one.. A player that had so much promise meets his untimely demsie through a combination of Herm and ego... Sad...

He's a 30 year old RB, he was going to meet his demise regardless of anything else.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Larry's story is an interesting yet sad one.. A player that had so much promise meets his untimely demsie through a combination of Herm and ego... Sad...

All ego and sad from Day 1 outta Penn State.

Pioli Zombie
10-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Teams that might take a look at him to spell their back or something like that umm..

Cincy might, Seattle, Matt Forte has been so bad I wouldn't rule out Chicago either.
Leon Washington just got hurt. Jets need all the running backs possible.
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Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:33 PM
Mind you, he had a couple of good days.

old_geezer
10-27-2009, 09:33 PM
So why not keep him for the year and make his life a living hell. He's getting paid regardless...

You do realize that goes both ways, don't you?

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:34 PM
The Jets have Shonn Green they have no need to sign an older shittier version.

CaliforniaChief
10-27-2009, 09:34 PM
They should have cut him before the year, but cutting him does save a bit of a headache.

I agree with this.

I think it will also instantly make our offense better. Then again, it couldn't get much worse right now.

I do think Charles and Smith will be a much better match for the kinds of running plays and short stuff that we've been running.

BigRedChief
10-27-2009, 09:34 PM
release!!!! wait and trade him for anything,,,.in the mean while bench his buttWhen you are losing you don't allow a public malcontent in your locker room to fan the negative flames.

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I agree with this.

I think it will also instantly make our offense better. Then again, it couldn't get much worse right now.

I do think Charles and Smith will be a much better match for the kinds of running plays and short stuff that we've been running.

It's probably going to be about the same, but hey it doesn't really matter.

Sure-Oz
10-27-2009, 09:35 PM
He's a 30 year old RB, he was going to meet his demise regardless of anything else.

He's just an immature bastard, period...

He was a hell of a player for a good 2-3 year period but his attitude always sucked.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:36 PM
You do realize that goes both ways, don't you?

Yeah, but it's like framing a piece of shit to let the young guys know there are consequences for being a piece of shit.

Bane
10-27-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm sure some team will take a chance with him down the road,even if just for a 3rd down back. I'd be fine with never seeing him play another down in the NFL.
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soundmind
10-27-2009, 09:37 PM
Your liver cries.

My liver and I would cry tears of joy together. I don't drink all that much, stopped for a 6-pack of New Castles on the way home from the gym though. Had one down, bout to open another anyway....so I may open 5 more beers even if he doesn't get cut, just cause they're delicious. Actually, maybe I'll spit one on the neighbor girl in celebration...

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:37 PM
He's just an immature bastard, period...

He was a hell of a player for a good 2-3 year period but his attitude always sucked.

I really could careless about that, the team can be full of pricks, as long as they win I don't care.

I don't have dinner with them, they aren't my pals.

Chiefs=Good
10-27-2009, 09:37 PM
He's a 30 year old RB, he was going to meet his demise regardless of anything else.

Yer i know. Still sad that such a talented player goes out the way he does...

Bill Lundberg
10-27-2009, 09:37 PM
He's just an immature bastard, period...

He ran behind one hell of an offensive line for a good 2-3 year period but his attitude always sucked.

Fixed that for you

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:39 PM
He's a 30 year old RB, he was going to meet his demise regardless of anything else.

What are you talking aboot?!? LT's legs are as fresh as they've ever been.

Galileo Humpkins
10-27-2009, 09:40 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/16bfpti.jpg

Chiefs=Good
10-27-2009, 09:40 PM
My liver and I would cry tears of joy together. I don't drink all that much, stopped for a 6-pack of New Castles on the way home from the gym though. Had one down, bout to open another anyway....so I may open 5 more beers even if he doesn't get cut, cause they're delicious.

Homer: If they don't release Larry Johnson I'm going to have to quit drinking. Homer's liver: Yay!!! Homer: Shut up liver!! (Punches himself in the liver) Ow! My liver hurt.

soundmind
10-27-2009, 09:44 PM
Man, if they cut him, everyone should make an effort to show up to the next game wearing Priest jerseys...we can invite the Phelps family, give them our 27 jerseys and tees....we should just fill the stadium with jubilation and zeal at his release like it's a playoff win. Happy Priest Day.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Yeah, since it was Merriman who took Holmes out, it would be classier this way.

Count Alex's Losses
10-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Shit

Hahahahahaha.

Not so confident now, eh?

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:48 PM
Hahahahahaha.

Not so confident now, eh?

You've practically lost.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-27-2009, 09:48 PM
Hahahahahaha.

Not so confident now, eh?

LMAO Could be the best thing to happen to your wallet in some time. Watch him sign with NE. I mentioned this in another thread. They are broke down in the RB department right now.

Delano
10-27-2009, 09:48 PM
What are you talking aboot?!? LT's legs are as fresh as they've ever been.

Yeah and he's still got that nose for the goal line. AMIRITE?

Count Alex's Losses
10-27-2009, 09:48 PM
You've practically lost.

Not if someone else picks him up.

http://i33.tinypic.com/2e2qanl.jpg

Chiefs=Good
10-27-2009, 09:48 PM
What are you talking aboot?!? LT's legs are as fresh as they've ever been.

http://i26.tinypic.com/5jvi9u.jpg

.

Mr. Flopnuts
10-27-2009, 09:49 PM
You've practically lost.

Get real. LT could break a pinkie and be done for the year on his very next carry.

MahiMike
10-27-2009, 09:49 PM
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WildTurkey
10-27-2009, 09:50 PM
Yeah and he's still got that nose for the goal line. AMIRITE?
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Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:50 PM
Hahahahahaha.

Not so confident now, eh?

You guys didn't have a stipulation for which team they played for?
Wow. Your stock has just risen.

InChiefsHell
10-27-2009, 09:51 PM
LJ has meant precisely nothing to this team for 3 seasons. If the Chiefs want to cut him, why oh why would ANYONE give a shit? I think it would show the guts and determination of the leadership to flat out cut the fucker and just be done with it.

And I think that is exactly what they will do...

Mecca
10-27-2009, 09:52 PM
Nah if anyone signs him, he'll probably be suspended first, then he'll have to learn a new playbook and he'll be at best 2 on the depth chart.

Odds of LJ doing much the rest of this year are slim.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:54 PM
Get real. LT could break a pinkie and be done for the year on his very next carry.

LT's acting like a virgin. He's scared of holes.

jAZ
10-27-2009, 09:57 PM
I don't know anything about this site or its sources, but I can't really see them keeping him. They almost *have* to cut him or find some way to end his career with the Chiefs.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 09:58 PM
Nah if anyone signs him, he'll probably be suspended first, then he'll have to learn a new playbook and he'll be at best 2 on the depth chart.

Odds of LJ doing much the rest of this year are slim.

He could still beat LT after the suspension. He's almost # 2 on our depth chart. The sideline pouting is what's keeps him starting over Sproles.

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 09:59 PM
Great now everyone knows how to get out of KC and try to sign with a winner.

RJ
10-27-2009, 10:00 PM
http://i26.tinypic.com/5jvi9u.jpg

.



Where is the cat?

Sure-Oz
10-27-2009, 10:00 PM
Great now everyone knows how to get out of KC and try to sign with a winner.

almost the whole roster would be out of the league without this team

Coach
10-27-2009, 10:02 PM
If that's the case....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/SwedeCarlson/Official%20Game%20Thread/2wnwdhv.gif

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Great now everyone knows how to get out of KC and try to sign with a winner.

Why do you think Eli whined his way out of SD? He wanted the money from advertising…

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 10:04 PM
almost the whole roster would be out of the league without this team

You raise a valid point, but I was pretty much talking about D-Bowe, Dorsey, and...................actually thats about it I think.

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 10:06 PM
Why do you think Eli whined his way out of SD? He wanted the money from advertising…

Exactly he needs fans to make advertising bucks. The 10 charger faithfuls wouldn't get him paid.

soundmind
10-27-2009, 10:07 PM
Great now everyone knows how to get out of KC and try to sign with a winner.

No one else is this infinitely stupid.

almost the whole roster would be out of the league without this team

This is an unfortunate truth. I bet the actual number for that is at least 20-30 players.

ChiefsCountry
10-27-2009, 10:08 PM
RealGM is a legit site. It is the best source on the web for NBA news.
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Iowanian
10-27-2009, 10:14 PM
I won't bother me a bit if its true.


I sure hope he doesn't get to go to a good team and isn't signed by one with bright lights and night life.


I hope he goes to Cleveland to start his death spiral.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 10:16 PM
I won't bother me a bit if its true.


I sure hope he doesn't get to go to a good team and isn't signed by one with bright lights and night life.


I hope he goes to Cleveland to start his death spiral.

He should be sentenced to Jacksonville

Iowanian
10-27-2009, 10:18 PM
They already have a couple of decent RBs.

I want him to go somewhere like Seattle....as far away from the lights as possible.


I think LJ's comments are Freudian....he's Gay for JZ.

Tribal Warfare
10-27-2009, 10:20 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/ubrzn.jpg

A Pioli WIN

Reerun_KC
10-27-2009, 10:21 PM
They already have a couple of decent RBs.

I want him to go somewhere like Seattle....as far away from the lights as possible.


I think LJ's comments are Freudian....he's Gay for JZ.

Maybe he can go play in the USFL?

KcFanInGA
10-27-2009, 10:23 PM
Well, I have been an LJ fan, and I have supported him, thinking he would run hard again for us this year, like in 2005 and such. But other than a couple of plays, he has shown nothing but an inability to remain upright and total lack of vision. Dump him, I'm done with backing up someone who just doesn't have the desire to win. Now whose Jersey should I buy?

blazzin311
10-27-2009, 10:27 PM
Leon Washington just got hurt. Jets need all the running backs possible.
Posted via Mobile Device

No they don't. Thomas Jones has been doing quite well for himself there in NY, and I'd be willing to bet Shawn Greene ends up being a very fine backup for the rest of the year for them. Kids got talent.

soundmind
10-27-2009, 10:28 PM
A Pioli WIN

:thumb: Pioli has been saving the following text in draft mode since he received the tweets Sunday night.

@ToonIcon - U no longr cakn, patna

:LOL:

blazzin311
10-27-2009, 10:31 PM
Nah if anyone signs him, he'll probably be suspended first, then he'll have to learn a new playbook and he'll be at best 2 on the depth chart.

Odds of LJ doing much the rest of this year are slim.

This. And might I add Cheers fellow planeteers for the Chiefs finally being rid of this douche! :toast:

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 10:31 PM
They already have a couple of decent RBs.

I want him to go somewhere like Seattle....as far away from the lights as possible.


I think LJ's comments are Freudian....he's Gay for JZ.

Seattle's got a great night scene...

Iowanian
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
But its cold, dreary a significant portion of the year......and a long, long way from his gay desire, Jayz

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 10:34 PM
But its cold, dreary a significant portion of the year......and a long, long way from his gay desire, Jayz

I suppose.

Personally, I love Seattle.

It's a great town with a great vibe.

Jacksonville? Not so much.

Too bad the Aleution Islands aren't hosting an NFL team.

CaliforniaChief
10-27-2009, 10:34 PM
I'm sure San Francisco would welcome him with open arms.

Red Beans
10-27-2009, 10:37 PM
Please God let this be the truth.

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 10:37 PM
But its cold, dreary a significant portion of the year......and a long, long way from his gay desire, Jayz

It's also got such a high suicide rate.....it's perfect!

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 10:42 PM
It's also got such a high suicide rate.....it's perfect!

325 days of rain and clouds does that to a person

KC kid
10-27-2009, 10:46 PM
I hope LJ is gone. He has not been the same since the foot injury. I was one of the only people hoping to God they would trade him a few year ago. KC fans tend to fall for their players a little too much and overvalue them. If there was any trade involving a first rounder for LJ, we should have taken it. Hindsight though, right? I do not see him getting work this year. I am not sure about next either. He is a non factor in the passing game. He really can't be in on third and long. He is slow and now does not seem to break tackles. I do not see him adding any value to any team .

All in all. . .

Later loser (spits in LJ's face)

KCtotheSB
10-27-2009, 10:47 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

His patented "run 2 yards, hit the back of an offensive lineman and fall down" will surely be missed....

:(

Iowanian
10-27-2009, 10:49 PM
I'm sure San Francisco would welcome him with open arms.

That would be perfect.


I have no issue with Seattle, I've never been there. I just thought with the liberal granolas and being so far away from his precious East Coast Cakn-bake...

Reerun_KC
10-27-2009, 10:51 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

His patented "run 2 yards, hit the back of an offensive lineman and fall down" will surely be missed....

:(

We recovered from LJ's Fore father Donnell Bennett... I am pretty sure things will go on and before you know it, we will suck again and have a back that GoChiefs wants to sex 2.7 yards at a time...

baitism
10-27-2009, 10:51 PM
Now he can't break Priest Holmes rushing record with the Chiefs. LMAO

Spott
10-27-2009, 10:51 PM
I wonder if he'll keep his number 27 when he starts playing in Oakland.

DeezNutz
10-27-2009, 10:52 PM
San Fran is strange.

Beautiful surroundings. Great restaurants. Cool things to do. But the city itself is a disgusting shit hole.

splatbass
10-27-2009, 10:59 PM
What are you talking aboot?!? LT's legs are as fresh as they've ever been.

They should be. How hard is it to take 3 steps and fall down?

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 11:00 PM
San Fran is strange.

Beautiful surroundings. Great restaurants. Cool things to do. But the city itself is a disgusting shit hole.

Oh, I LOVE San Fran.

I've had some of the craziest nights ever as a young lad at the peep shows, strip clubs and Mitchell Brothers that you could ever imagine.

I proposed to my wife on Pier 39. I had sushi for the first time ever in the Haight. I've met an amazing amount of great people in the Bay area. Lifelong friends.

DeezNutz
10-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Oh, I LOVE San Fran.

I've had some of the craziest nights ever as a young lad at the peep shows, strip clubs and Mitchell Brothers that you could ever imagine.

I proposed to my wife on Pier 39. I had sushi for the first time ever in the Haight. I've met an amazing amount of great people in the Bay area. Lifelong friends.

Don't get me wrong: it's a cool place and I've loved visiting and it sounds like you have some great memories of the city.

But it's one of the dirtier cities I've visited. Much worse, IMO, than, say, Chicago or NY.

KC kid
10-27-2009, 11:03 PM
LJ takes his "faggot ass" to san fran lol

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 11:03 PM
Don't get me wrong: it's a cool place and I've loved visiting and it sounds like you have some great memories of the city.

But it's one of the dirtier cities I've visited. Much worse, IMO, than, say, Chicago or NY.

Interesting.

Maybe it was the time of year? Or year?

I'm curious because I've never found it to be anything less than breathtaking.

We'd move to Marin in a heartbeat.

If we could afford it.

DeezNutz
10-27-2009, 11:08 PM
Interesting.

Maybe it was the time of year? Or year?

I'm curious because I've never found it to be anything less than breathtaking.

We'd move to Marin in a heartbeat.

If we could afford it.

This past Jan. Don't know what the deal was...

Now, crossing over the into the Mt. Tam area, however, is a completely different story. Sign me up. Love it.

splatbass
10-27-2009, 11:11 PM
I suppose.

Personally, I love Seattle.

It's a great town with a great vibe.

Jacksonville? Not so much.

Too bad the Aleution Islands aren't hosting an NFL team.

Green Bay. Small city, frozen north woods.

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 11:12 PM
325 days of rain and clouds does that to a person

I don't care how you slice it, if you kill yourself because it's rainy..........your overreacting. It's not a real mental illness if you can cure it with an umbrella.


Kurt Cobain was from Seattle, he shot himself and I thought it was drug addiction....no thundershowers.

Count Alex's Losses
10-27-2009, 11:27 PM
No one gets to use it until the deal is actually done.

The first person to strike will live in infamy.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 11:30 PM
I don't care how you slice it, if you kill yourself because it's rainy..........your overreacting. It's not a real mental illness if you can cure it with an umbrella.


Kurt Cobain was from Seattle, he shot himself and I thought it was drug addiction....no thundershowers.

Do you live in Seattle? if so, for how long?

They're not the suicide capitol of America for no reason.

No sunshine is depressing.

KCDC
10-27-2009, 11:33 PM
LJ is still leading that...

I'm worried he is going to sign elsewhere and run for more yards.

Maybe the Bolts will sign him so that LT and LJ can play over the hill RBs in stereo.

Gadzooks
10-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Maybe the Bolts will sign him so that LT and LJ can play over the hill RBs in stereo.

We already have Bennett who's 30+, better & more inspired than your refuse.

Kyle DeLexus
10-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Do you live in Seattle? if so, for how long?

They're not the suicide capitol of America for no reason.

No sunshine is depressing.

That's actually a Jim Norton joke.

No, I have never lived in Seattle. Personally, I would enjoy it. I can understand how it could be depressing but why kill yourself when there's a much more viable option like...oh....moving.

DaneMcCloud
10-27-2009, 11:42 PM
That's actually a Jim Norton joke.

No, I have never lived in Seattle. Personally, I would enjoy it. I can understand how it could be depressing but why kill yourself when there's a much more viable option like...oh....moving.

Look, I'm not going to get into the whole psychology of why it can be depressing for some to live in Seattle, but I can definitely tell you that you are NOT FUNNY, nor are you a COMEDIAN.

I find it rather insulting AND disheartening that someone who's never lived in a given place can make fun of it so easily, especially given the topic.

Furthermore, it's tenuous at best to "assume"t that you'd like living in a place where you've never lived, thousands of miles away from everything you've ever known.

KCrockaholic
10-27-2009, 11:44 PM
Actually Vegas is pretty well known for being the suicide capital of America, FYI.

Count Alex's Losses
10-27-2009, 11:58 PM
Babb:

Considering everything I've heard, and mixing in some logic gathered from the team's "investigation," I don't think LJ will be cut this wk.

KCrockaholic
10-28-2009, 12:03 AM
Babb:
No, bullcrap! Cut him now!

DRU
10-28-2009, 12:09 AM
My favorite part about this is that he won't break Priest's franchise record for yards rushing.

Holmes = 6,070
Johnson = 5,996

I was upset that this bastard was going to be our all time leader. Now he's not. :)

Kyle DeLexus
10-28-2009, 12:16 AM
Look, I'm not going to get into the whole psychology of why it can be depressing for some to live in Seattle, but I can definitely tell you that you are NOT FUNNY, nor are you a COMEDIAN.

I find it rather insulting AND disheartening that someone who's never lived in a given place can make fun of it so easily, especially given the topic.

Furthermore, it's tenuous at best to "assume"t that you'd like living in a place where you've never lived, thousands of miles away from everything you've ever known.

I didn't make fun of the situation, so I don't know why you would find that insulting or disheartening about anything that I said (well unless the LJ line got to you and in that case, for a guy thats been wounding vaginas since whenever it was you need to get some thicker skin). I simply put a bit from a famous comedian, I never said I was a comedian, Jim Norton is though and a very successful one I might add.

I really don't get why you wouldn't move or get help if you are feeling depressed given Seattle's history. Like I said, I can certainly see why it could be depressing for some (how many I question though, I think you have to have something else wrong with you to begin with if you commit suicide), but that doesn't mean I understand why it would cause suicide when you can easily get help for your depression or move. Then again, I have never lived there, I wouldn't know for sure.

I still assume that I wouldn't mind living there since well I like those kinds of days and prefer dark cloudy days to sunny days, and actually have a few friends in the area. Sure, you never know until you actually live there, but did you think you would like living where there is nice weather? Do you think people that move to Florida figured they would like to live there? How about those that move to Canada because they like the cold? Should they all not assume they would like to live at those places since they have never lived there?

If this doesn't make sense I apologize in advance, I took some medicine for my flu and dozed off. I'm sure there's something in there that could be better explained or just flat out doesn't make sense.

sparkky
10-28-2009, 12:56 AM
No, not now. And it wouldn't matter anyway because the Chiefs are currently $29 million under the cap.

I find it ironic they won't pay to bring in good players but they WILL to get rid of unhappy, bad ones.

RINGLEADER
10-28-2009, 02:17 AM
How long until Brian Waters starts dropping homophobic epitaths left and right?

salame
10-28-2009, 02:27 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HuegrK2s-SA/SRt7JJzumnI/AAAAAAAAAi4/iBGweKXkoOI/s400/larry-johnson.jpg

the Talking Can
10-28-2009, 06:07 AM
thank god

Guru
10-28-2009, 06:25 AM
LJ is still leading that...

I'm worried he is going to sign elsewhere and run for more yards.He will go the raiders and torch us. I don't even care if he does.:shake:

InChiefsHell
10-28-2009, 06:46 AM
He will go the raiders and torch us. I don't even care if he does.:shake:
THat's kinda where I'm at. Sure, LJ might go to another team and light it up, but I just really don't give a shit. I want him out of KC. He's done nothing here for 3 seasons, why keep him and put up with all his other BS?

NY CHIEF
10-28-2009, 07:13 AM
We have given him EVERY CHANCE to take the diapers off... BYE BYE:clap:

BigRedChief
10-28-2009, 07:14 AM
He will go the raiders and torch us. I don't even care if he does.:shake:
Yeah, that might happen but on this we agree, I don't want him in a Chiefs uniform ever again.

CHIEFS58
10-28-2009, 07:39 AM
this man has needed to be our RB since day 1.

http://top-fantasy-football.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jamaal-charles.jpg

Chiefless
10-28-2009, 07:41 AM
I don't care how you slice it, if you kill yourself because it's rainy..........your overreacting. It's not a real mental illness if you can cure it with an umbrella.


Kurt Cobain was from Seattle, he shot himself and I thought it was drug addiction....no thundershowers.

Not that I disagree with you, but 9 months without seeing the sun will wear on you. It's a pretty dreary town.

suds79
10-28-2009, 07:57 AM
this man has needed to be our RB since day 1.

http://top-fantasy-football.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jamaal-charles.jpg

I can't wait.

Our running game is about to get better (hard to be worse) and that'll help the passing game.

milkman
10-28-2009, 08:03 AM
I'll believe when I see it.

I have very little faith.

They should have cut his useless ass while walking in the door.

penchief
10-28-2009, 08:16 AM
Man, if they cut him, everyone should make an effort to show up to the next game wearing Priest jerseys...we can invite the Phelps family, give them our 27 jerseys and tees....we should just fill the stadium with jubilation and zeal at his release like it's a playoff win. Happy Priest Day.

Priest was ten times classier than LJ but he was no saint either. I can't get past how he jerked the team around during his injury. I loved him as a running back but got turned off when he held the team hostage. Plus, he didn't do the team any favors when he snubbed LJ instead of providing some veteran leadership for a guy who apparently needed someone to take him under their wing. Instead, he fed into LJ's festering resentment over how the team was handling him.

I was one of the biggest advocates for LJ's talent. He had more potential than anyone this team has seen in a long while. Unfortunately, his weak character and the team's mishandling of him laid waste to what could have been a brilliant career.

He was never utilized properly on the field. You don't take a talent like LJ and ram him up the center's ass against eight and nine man fronts all day long. Not to mention that Vermiel's form of tough love (neglecting him as a player) backfired in a big way by compounding LJ's character flaws.

That said, I am as eager as anyone to close the chapter on the LJ saga. I do not want someone with his character issues representing the chiefs. Moving on is probably long overdue. He and the team got off on the wrong foot and were never able to get in sync. It has always been an volatile relationship, both on the field and in the locker room.

Fire Me Boy!
10-28-2009, 08:21 AM
Priest was ten times classier than LJ but he was no saint either. I can't get past how he jerked the team around during his injury. I loved him as a running back but got turned off when he held the team hostage. Plus, he didn't do the team any favors when he snubbed LJ instead of providing some veteran leadership for a guy who apparently needed someone to take him under their wing. Instead, he fed into LJ's festering resentment over how the team was handling him.

I was one of the biggest advocates for LJ's talent. He had more potential than anyone this team has seen in a long while. Unfortunately, his weak character and this team's mishandling of him laid waste to what could have been a brilliant career.

He was never utilized properly on the field. You don't take a talent like LJ and ram him up the center's ass against eight and nine man fronts all day long. Not to mention that Vermiel's form of tough love (neglecting him as a player) backfired in a big way by compounding LJ's character flaws.

That said, I am as eager as anyone to close the chapter on the LJ saga. I do not want someone with his character issues representing the chiefs. Moving on is probably long overdue. He and the team got off on the wrong foot and were never able to get in sync. On the field or in the locker room.

I agree. I think Priest was a great player and a model citizen, but I always chuckle when everyone talks about what a great team player he was. Let's not forget he demanded to restructure his contract and made no bones about the fact he wanted to get paid and wouldn't run if he didn't get it.

That said, I loved having Priest on our field, and can't wait for LJ to GTFO.

Chiefnj2
10-28-2009, 08:21 AM
Priest was ten times classier than LJ but he was no saint either. I can't get past how he jerked the team around during his injury. I loved him as a running back but got turned off when he held the team hostage. Plus, he didn't do the team any favors when he snubbed LJ instead of providing some veteran leadership for a guy who apparently needed someone to take him under their wing. Instead, he fed into LJ's festering resentment over how the team was handling him.

I was one of the biggest advocates for LJ's talent. He had more potential than anyone this team has seen in a long while. Unfortunately, his weak character and this team's mishandling of him laid waste to what could have been a brilliant career.

He was never utilized properly on the field. You don't take a talent like LJ and ram him up the center's ass against eight and nine man fronts all day long. Not to mention that Vermiel's form of tough love (neglecting him as a player) backfired in a big way by compounding LJ's character flaws.

That said, I am as eager as anyone to close the chapter on the LJ saga. I do not want someone with his character issues representing the chiefs. Moving on is probably long overdue. He and the team got off on the wrong foot and were never able to get in sync. It has always been an volatile relationship, both on the field and in the locker room.

Vermeil's tough love ended up being 100% warranted.

soundmind
10-28-2009, 08:45 AM
Priest was ten times classier than LJ but he was no saint either. I can't get past how he jerked the team around during his injury. I loved him as a running back but got turned off when he held the team hostage. Plus, he didn't do the team any favors when he snubbed LJ instead of providing some veteran leadership for a guy who apparently needed someone to take him under their wing. Instead, he fed into LJ's festering resentment over how the team was handling him.

I was one of the biggest advocates for LJ's talent. He had more potential than anyone this team has seen in a long while. Unfortunately, his weak character and the team's mishandling of him laid waste to what could have been a brilliant career.

He was never utilized properly on the field. You don't take a talent like LJ and ram him up the center's ass against eight and nine man fronts all day long. Not to mention that Vermiel's form of tough love (neglecting him as a player) backfired in a big way by compounding LJ's character flaws.

That said, I am as eager as anyone to close the chapter on the LJ saga. I do not want someone with his character issues representing the chiefs. Moving on is probably long overdue. He and the team got off on the wrong foot and were never able to get in sync. It has always been an volatile relationship, both on the field and in the locker room.

I feel like agreeing with ya here, and Priest was certainly taking care of himself first, but what do you mean by "never utilized properly"? What do you think is the best way to use someone like LJ....? I mean for the last few years, I haven't really seen a single cut or move that made me think he had a chance on the edge or in the open field. He doesn't, and arguably never had breakaway speed...while he ran mean and angry, I'd think the most obvious move was a very straight forward "hope he doesn't get hit before he gets moving" approach. If the hole is there, LJ is dangerous. If it's not, he has absolutely nothing.

Molitoth
10-28-2009, 08:51 AM
"never utilized properly"? What do you think is the best way to use someone like LJ....?

LJ Was utilized properly back in 04-05 where they would feed him the ball on screens, dumps, and sweeps. Once LJ gets past the first layer, he is a tough sob to bring down and has open field speed. The majority of nice runs by LJ would have come with these 3 plays.

Once Sperm Edwards came along, and now Haley.... all they do is run LJ up the centers ass every first and second down. It's predictable bullshit playcalling and the defense knows it's coming.

ChiTown
10-28-2009, 08:52 AM
:shake:

Thanks, Carl.

penchief
10-28-2009, 09:02 AM
Vermeil's tough love ended up being 100% warranted.

I don't think so. There could have been better approaches that wouldn't have wasted LJ's talent, alienated him from the team, and fueled his charachter defects.

I'm all for tough love. I'm an advocate for tough love. But one still has to apply it effectively. DV may have been right that LJ needed tough love but the way he administered it only compounded the problem. He thoroughly mismanaged LJ both on and off the field.

Frazod
10-28-2009, 09:08 AM
He will go the raiders and torch us. I don't even care if he does.:shake:

Shit, I'd take any of their RBs over him at this point. Why the fuck would they want him?

Braincase
10-28-2009, 09:09 AM
If we release him, he can go play for someone else, and we're still stuck paying his salary. I say put him on freakin' injured reserve and let his ass rot for the duration of his contract. I never want his name at the top of the Chiefs career rushing list.

ChiTown
10-28-2009, 09:09 AM
Shit, I'd take any of their RBs over him at this point. Why the **** would they want him?

Cuz he's an CAKE MAKN, OUTLAW, PATNA!

Mr. Arrowhead
10-28-2009, 09:13 AM
If we release him, he can go play for someone else, and we're still stuck paying his salary. I say put him on freakin' injured reserve and let his ass rot for the duration of his contract. I never want his name at the top of the Chiefs career rushing list.

nope after last offseason his contract is no longer guaranteed. So we cut him, we dont owe him a dam thing.

Frazod
10-28-2009, 09:14 AM
Cuz he's an CAKE MAKN, OUTLAW, PATNA!

I really need to brush up on my ebonics. :D

mikeyis4dcats.
10-28-2009, 09:16 AM
nope after last offseason his contract is no longer guaranteed. So we cut him, we dont owe him a dam thing.


link? I have heard different...

Chief Henry
10-28-2009, 09:16 AM
Fuggin Sweet!

this

CoMoChief
10-28-2009, 09:21 AM
Priest was ten times classier than LJ but he was no saint either. I can't get past how he jerked the team around during his injury. I loved him as a running back but got turned off when he held the team hostage. Plus, he didn't do the team any favors when he snubbed LJ instead of providing some veteran leadership for a guy who apparently needed someone to take him under their wing. Instead, he fed into LJ's festering resentment over how the team was handling him.

I was one of the biggest advocates for LJ's talent. He had more potential than anyone this team has seen in a long while. Unfortunately, his weak character and the team's mishandling of him laid waste to what could have been a brilliant career.

He was never utilized properly on the field. You don't take a talent like LJ and ram him up the center's ass against eight and nine man fronts all day long. Not to mention that Vermiel's form of tough love (neglecting him as a player) backfired in a big way by compounding LJ's character flaws.

That said, I am as eager as anyone to close the chapter on the LJ saga. I do not want someone with his character issues representing the chiefs. Moving on is probably long overdue. He and the team got off on the wrong foot and were never able to get in sync. It has always been an volatile relationship, both on the field and in the locker room.

What did Priest do that was so bad? Seriously?

Dayze
10-28-2009, 09:23 AM
i think the only thing he's guaranteed is this years pro-rated bonus + any games he plays in. The special master person
Ruled in favor of the Chiefs and essentially determined the LJ breeched his contract; therefore previously ‘guaranteed’ pro-rated bonus money was no longer ‘guaranteed’. I think by LJ being on the active 53 at the start of the season, triggered some sort of clause that guaranteed this years pro-rated bonus.

If they cut him, they’re only on the hook for this years bonus money, and the remaining penalty of his ‘salary’ for the remaining years of his contract. So, I think the Chiefs are off the hook for eating his signing bonus money in the remaining years; but still might be on the hook for a portion of the salary piece of his contract.

Mr. Arrowhead
10-28-2009, 09:32 AM
link? I have heard different...

http://cjonline.com/sports/2009-04-06/chiefs_need_not_pay_ljs_bonuses

Chiefs need not pay LJ's bonuses
Arbitrator rules suspended running back violated contract
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April 6, 2009 - 1:21pm

The Kansas City Chiefs will not have to pay controversial running back Larry Johnson his $3.7 million guaranteed signing bonuses over the next two seasons, an arbitrator ruled Monday.

Special master Richard Burbank ruled that Johnson violated terms of his August 2007 contract when he was suspended by the league last year following nightclub-related incidents that resulted in him being arrested twice in 2008.

The league suspended Johnson for one game last year after the Chiefs made him inactive for three games, citing violations of team rules as their reason. Johnson's contract contained specific language that voided the payment of future bonuses in the event of a league suspension, Burbank ruled.

Johnson can still earn his salary and bonuses if the team continues to keep him. But published reports indicated the Chiefs were inclined to release Johnson if the arbitrator found they did not have to pay him a $3.5 million bonus due in 2009 or another $200,000 in 2010.

Johnson, who rushed for 1,750 yards in both the 2005 and 2006 campaigns before demanding a new contract, has not played up to those levels since signing the new deal. A foot injury caused him to miss the final half of the 2007 campaign. Last year he lost much of his role in an offense designed around him when quarterback injuries prompted the Chiefs to go to a spread offense designed around replacement quarterback Tyler Thigpen.

Johnson subsequently asked to be traded, saying he no longer felt he had a role with the team. He did, however, report at the start of the team's offseason conditioning program last week.

Johnson recently pleaded guilty to two reduced municipal charges of disturbing the peace following arrests in two separate incidents involving women in Kansas City nightclubs. He was placed on two years probation, given 40 hours of community service and ordered not to be in bars after 9 p.m.

In a separate action Monday, Burbank ruled in favor of Giants receiver Plaxico Burress in his bid to retain $1 million in already earned bonus money, something the Giants wanted to take away following an incident in which Burress accidentally shot himself at a New York nightclub.

NFL Players Association general counsel Richard Berthelsen said Burbank ruled that bonus money already earned cannot be forfeited by a player.

Burress has since been released by the Giants.
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Brock
10-28-2009, 09:35 AM
Oooohhh, Larry. That's got to hurt.

Demonpenz
10-28-2009, 09:37 AM
Priest was a bitch about his contract and the fact he didn't want to catch screens and wanted to rush for 2,000, but overall he was alot classier than your average athlete or even blue collar worker

Norman Einstein
10-28-2009, 09:38 AM
I would love to see the NFL give him a one or two year suspension to get his head straight. The dude is messed up in the worst way, he actually thinks it's all about him and not the team.

Rooster
10-28-2009, 09:39 AM
What did Priest do that was so bad? Seriously?

I have no idea. There are some out there that think he should have done more some how.

alpha_omega
10-28-2009, 09:40 AM
Funny, even Marty knows LJ sucks.

Mr. Plow
10-28-2009, 09:44 AM
http://cjonline.com/sports/2009-04-06/chiefs_need_not_pay_ljs_bonuses

Chiefs need not pay LJ's bonuses
Arbitrator rules suspended running back violated contract
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By Staff And Wire Reports
April 6, 2009 - 1:21pm

The Kansas City Chiefs will not have to pay controversial running back Larry Johnson his $3.7 million guaranteed signing bonuses over the next two seasons, an arbitrator ruled Monday.

Special master Richard Burbank ruled that Johnson violated terms of his August 2007 contract when he was suspended by the league last year following nightclub-related incidents that resulted in him being arrested twice in 2008.

The league suspended Johnson for one game last year after the Chiefs made him inactive for three games, citing violations of team rules as their reason. Johnson's contract contained specific language that voided the payment of future bonuses in the event of a league suspension, Burbank ruled.

Johnson can still earn his salary and bonuses if the team continues to keep him. But published reports indicated the Chiefs were inclined to release Johnson if the arbitrator found they did not have to pay him a $3.5 million bonus due in 2009 or another $200,000 in 2010.

Johnson, who rushed for 1,750 yards in both the 2005 and 2006 campaigns before demanding a new contract, has not played up to those levels since signing the new deal. A foot injury caused him to miss the final half of the 2007 campaign. Last year he lost much of his role in an offense designed around him when quarterback injuries prompted the Chiefs to go to a spread offense designed around replacement quarterback Tyler Thigpen.

Johnson subsequently asked to be traded, saying he no longer felt he had a role with the team. He did, however, report at the start of the team's offseason conditioning program last week.

Johnson recently pleaded guilty to two reduced municipal charges of disturbing the peace following arrests in two separate incidents involving women in Kansas City nightclubs. He was placed on two years probation, given 40 hours of community service and ordered not to be in bars after 9 p.m.

In a separate action Monday, Burbank ruled in favor of Giants receiver Plaxico Burress in his bid to retain $1 million in already earned bonus money, something the Giants wanted to take away following an incident in which Burress accidentally shot himself at a New York nightclub.

NFL Players Association general counsel Richard Berthelsen said Burbank ruled that bonus money already earned cannot be forfeited by a player.

Burress has since been released by the Giants.
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ROFL

Fuck you LJ. Fuck you.

CaliforniaChief
10-28-2009, 09:46 AM
Hopefully this ends the era of big contract running backs in Kansas City. We need to be the team drafting RB's in the middle rounds of the draft, developing them, letting them get a ton of carries, and letting Oakland/Washington sign them for big guaranteed money.

Priest's record should be safe for a LONG time.

Braincase
10-28-2009, 09:48 AM
ROFL

**** you LJ. **** you.

That's from last April. The way I heard it, if he made the team, he got his bonus. It says right there that Johnson can still earn his salary and bonuses if the team continues to keep him. He's on the team now, so his contract is in force, which is why I want him to sit and rot. I want Marcus Allen's final years with the Raiders to look like a Caribbean vacation.

Skip Towne
10-28-2009, 09:51 AM
His jersey number matches his rushing average. Get outta town LJ

Mr. Plow
10-28-2009, 09:57 AM
That's from last April. The way I heard it, if he made the team, he got his bonus. It says right there that Johnson can still earn his salary and bonuses if the team continues to keep him. He's on the team now, so his contract is in force, which is why I want him to sit and rot. I want Marcus Allen's final years with the Raiders to look like a Caribbean vacation.


Helps if I look at the date, but my statement still stands.

Bill Lundberg
10-28-2009, 09:59 AM
In completely unrelated news to the LJ gay slurs. Jeff Garcia has stated that he hates the Chiefs...

milkman
10-28-2009, 10:08 AM
That's from last April. The way I heard it, if he made the team, he got his bonus. It says right there that Johnson can still earn his salary and bonuses if the team continues to keep him. He's on the team now, so his contract is in force, which is why I want him to sit and rot. I want Marcus Allen's final years with the Raiders to look like a Caribbean vacation.

NFL salaries are not guaranteed.

He earned his roster bonus and salary for this season, but the Chiefs can still cut him and not be on the hook for his '10 bonus and future salaries.

Mr. Laz
10-28-2009, 10:09 AM
I'd rather the chiefs find some way to suspend him for 4 weeks and then cut him. I don't want him to go to another team and get to play.

it's almost like getting a reward if he goes to Pittsburgh or something and gets to play again for a team that makes the playoffs.

Norman Einstein
10-28-2009, 10:13 AM
I'd rather the chiefs find some way to suspend him for 4 weeks and then cut him. I don't want him to go to another team and get to play.

it's almost like getting a reward if he goes to Pittsburgh or something and gets to play again for a team that makes the playoffs.

Make it hurt, right? I agree, the guy needs to either "take the diaper off" and grow up. He sounds like a little kid that isn't getting his way and is throwing a tantrum.

NY CHIEF
10-28-2009, 10:15 AM
He dug his own hole :cuss:

Christofire
10-28-2009, 10:16 AM
In the scheme of things, this will have minimal impact on the Chiefs. Our offense wasn't built around him to begin with, and he wasn't producing yards behind our offensive line anyway.

But IF we're moving forward with Kolby, Jamaal and company (which is fine with me), I'd be pretty excited to see a whole slew of Darren Sproles-ish plays designed for these quick, elusive backs.

Fire Me Boy!
10-28-2009, 10:16 AM
I say IR him. Don't waste a roster spot, but end the fucker's season.

wild1
10-28-2009, 10:17 AM
I'd rather the chiefs find some way to suspend him for 4 weeks and then cut him. I don't want him to go to another team and get to play.

it's almost like getting a reward if he goes to Pittsburgh or something and gets to play again for a team that makes the playoffs.

Unless there is a financial advantage, suspend him for the rest of the season and then cut him loose as late as practicable in the offseason.

You don't want him to get what he wants. It will set a bad example for other players.

Mr. Laz
10-28-2009, 10:18 AM
In the scheme of things, this will have minimal impact on the Chiefs. Our offense wasn't built around him to begin with, and he wasn't producing yards behind our offensive line anyway.

But IF we're moving forward with Kolby, Jamaal and company (which is fine with me), I'd be pretty excited to see a whole slew of Darren Sproles-ish plays designed for these quick, elusive backs.
like running a spread offense


where's Chan Gailey when you need 'em :)

Mr. Laz
10-28-2009, 10:19 AM
I say IR him. Don't waste a roster spot, but end the ****er's season.
nah ... on IR he still gets paid for just sitting on his butt.

gotta be some kind of suspension so he doesn't get paid AND doesn't get to go to another team and play.


The best thing would be for the league to suspend him for awhile and then for the Chiefs to cut him as soon as the suspension is over.

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 10:33 AM
I have a feeling we can't suspend him and not pay him...

I bet they just have him sit the rest of the year and get rid of him after the season

CaliforniaChief
10-28-2009, 10:37 AM
nah ... on IR he still gets paid for just sitting on his butt.

gotta be some kind of suspension so he doesn't get paid AND doesn't get to go to another team and play.


The best thing would be for the league to suspend him for awhile and then for the Chiefs to cut him as soon as the suspension is over.

I hope that's what this "investigation" is all about. Not getting the facts, verifying he tweeted it, etc...but investigating how to screw him over as badly as possible.

Mr. Laz
10-28-2009, 10:39 AM
I have a feeling we can't suspend him and not pay him...

I bet they just have him sit the rest of the year and get rid of him after the season
why ... he lost his case last year after screwing up. His contract isn't guaranteed even for the year.

Chiefs can cut him right now and not pay him anything else.

The question is ... can we screw him in some more and inventive ways. :)

soundmind
10-28-2009, 10:40 AM
The NFLPA will keep the Chiefs from screwing him too hard, even suspending him for the maximum of 4 games and cutting him, they'd basically end up fighting to get Larry money after we cut him. We'd probably be smarter to just cut him after the suspension (whatever the league mandates) and wash our hands of him. Where he goes...don't care. Just not here.

Can't really imaginatively screw him, but he's really done so already himself. In the eyes of the league, Larry isn't exactly on strike one. He's now proven a pattern of not being able to control himself or his emotions and it's cost the team/league on multiple occasions. I have a feeling the NFL, or the team will give him 1-2 games and we'll release him after that.

Christofire
10-28-2009, 10:42 AM
Maybe Goodell can use his all-powerful commish powers and let us retroactively trade him to the Rams. That way he's still stuck in missouri, still in the vicinity of his adoring fanbase (not) and still on a team that's terrible.

Shag
10-28-2009, 11:03 AM
I have a feeling we can't suspend him and not pay him...

I bet they just have him sit the rest of the year and get rid of him after the season

I know players have been suspended from teams without pay in the past for "conduct detrimental to the team". Happened to Winslow Jr last year, as a recent example, though that was only one game - I'm sure there are others. The NFL could also suspend him without pay, as they did with Stallworth...

milkman
10-28-2009, 11:29 AM
why ... he lost his case last year after screwing up. His contract isn't guaranteed even for the year.

Chiefs can cut him right now and not pay him anything else.

The question is ... can we screw him in some more and inventive ways. :)

Actually, Laz, once he went into the season on the roster, his salary for this season is gauranteed.

He can be, as you suggested, be suspended without pay.

LaChapelle
10-28-2009, 11:37 AM
Isn't LJ's sideline designing clothes. Maybe "those" people are to blame for his other failure. If only in his mind.

LaChapelle
10-28-2009, 12:11 PM
According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Larry Johnson will miss at least one game after the Chiefs barred him from their facility and all team matters.

Kansas City is on a bye currently, but Johnson will miss Week 9 against Jacksonville, which will likely give Jamaal Charles a start. Dantrell Savage and Kolby Smith, assuming he's activated from PUP, are backup options. Charles has suddenly gained the most fantasy value among all of Todd Haley's running backs and needs to be owned in all formats. His rise to the starting job may also result in a more pass-heavy offense. -Rotoworld

MikeMaslowski
10-28-2009, 12:36 PM
Maybe now he can move into Jay Z's spare bedroom.

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 01:07 PM
Larry Johnson-RB-Chiefs Oct. 28 - 1:55 pm et

ESPN's Michael Smith said on SportsCenter Live Wednesday that he doesn't expect Larry Johnson to play for the Chiefs again this year.
Smith predicts that L.J. will be cut, and notes that the Chiefs "got a lot of calls" from fans who were angered by Johnson's gay-bashing and coach-denouncing comments. The Chiefs may sleep on what to do with L.J. during their Week 8 bye, then formally release him before facing the Jaguars in Week 9.

Mr. Laz
10-28-2009, 01:16 PM
Actually, Laz, once he went into the season on the roster, his salary for this season is gauranteed.
i don't think so, i think there is some kind of exemption because of the arbitrator's ruling about LJ

Pink Paradise 2010
10-28-2009, 01:37 PM
he is just a pice of crap anyways. plus he has not tried anything that he used to do this year.....

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 01:38 PM
i don't think so, i think there is some kind of exemption because of the arbitrator's ruling about LJ

I believe if he is cut, he gets nothing the rest of the year.

milkman
10-28-2009, 01:42 PM
I believe if he is cut, he gets nothing the rest of the year.

I'm pretty sure that regardless of the special master's ruling, that once a player makes the regular season roster, NFL rules guarantee his salary for that season.

The ruling only affected his contract if he were cut prior to the season.

But, I admit, I'm not absolutely certain.

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 01:47 PM
I'm pretty sure that regardless of the special master's ruling, that once a player makes the regular season roster, NFL rules guarantee his salary for that season.

The ruling only affected his contract if he were cut prior to the season.

But, I admit, I'm not absolutely certain.

I've been listening on the radio and they seem to be certain he'd lose out on about 1.9mill if he got cut...but i am not 100% either, that is where i've heard it from the last few days.

Will be interesting to see what happens...I can see them just paying him the rest of the season and have him suspended the rest of the year.

EDIT-Looks like i heard wrong...you are correct.

beach tribe
10-28-2009, 01:52 PM
They better Marcus Allen/Keyshawn Johnson this punk. Let his ass ROT. Don't let him go somewhere and get another chance. Make him watch. hell dress him out, and let him sit on the sideline as an emergency/3rd string RB.

Ari Chi3fs
10-28-2009, 01:52 PM
I thought that since he made the opening day roster that all bets were off... if they had parted ways with him prior to the season... they were off the hook... but since he made the roster... his salary is guaranteed in 2009 and 2010... not positive though

sedated
10-28-2009, 01:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that regardless of the special master's ruling, that once a player makes the regular season roster, NFL rules guarantee his salary for that season.

The ruling only affected his contract if he were cut prior to the season.

this is correct. one of the radio guys interviewed LJ's agent, and the contract is guaranteed since he was put on the 53-man.

He said that no contract, despite any ruling, can be a "game-by-game" contract.

the only way LJ misses a game-check is if the NFL suspends him without pay.

splatbass
10-28-2009, 01:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that regardless of the special master's ruling, that once a player makes the regular season roster, NFL rules guarantee his salary for that season.

The ruling only affected his contract if he were cut prior to the season.

But, I admit, I'm not absolutely certain.

I think you are right. The way I read it, if they had cut him right after the ruling they wouldn't have owed him any money, but by keeping him on the roster this year they forfeited that option. I could be wrong, but that is how it looked to me.

rad
10-28-2009, 02:00 PM
Just wondering........Walter Payton was "Sweetness"......

So I wanted to coin the nickname for LJ: "Tweetness"


Did I make it?

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 02:01 PM
this is correct. one of the radio guys interviewed LJ's agent, and the contract is guaranteed since he was put on the 53-man.

He said that no contract, despite any ruling, can be a "game-by-game" contract.

the only way LJ misses a game-check is if the NFL suspends him without pay.

Well there is confirmation there...i should've known what i heard earlier this week was false.

Bill Lundberg
10-28-2009, 02:05 PM
Does anyone have the number as to what last years spitsident cost LJ? I bet it's mind boggling.

wild1
10-28-2009, 02:09 PM
So when is the release happening?

InChiefsHell
10-28-2009, 02:11 PM
I don't understand why all the personal anger towards LJ, wanting to make it hurt, bench him, make him dress out but not play...just cut his ass and be done with it. If you can save a couple bucks by suspending him for detrimental conduct, do that and then cut his ass. Pay him and get him the fuck out of here...

Bill Lundberg
10-28-2009, 02:11 PM
So when is the release happening?

They can't/won't do anything until the NFL has completed its investigation.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:14 PM
They can't/won't do anything until the NFL has completed its investigation.

Like the NFL have done the Chiefs any favors. :rolleyes:

I'd just go ahead and cut him, regardless of what the NFL wants to do. If the NFL doesn't like it, well, fuck em.

milkman
10-28-2009, 02:17 PM
Like the NFL have done the Chiefs any favors. :rolleyes:

I'd just go ahead and cut him, regardless of what the NFL wants to do. If the NFL doesn't like it, well, **** em.

We don't want him to be cut.

We want him suspended without pay.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:17 PM
We don't want him to be cut.

We want him suspended without pay.

And why would you choose that direction?

Just askin.

Sure-Oz
10-28-2009, 02:21 PM
And why would you choose that direction?

Just askin.

So we don't have to pay him...

and he doesn't get what he wants right away, which is to get out of KC

milkman
10-28-2009, 02:21 PM
And why would you choose that direction?

Just askin.

Because if you cut him, you have to pay him, and he still can sign somewhere else and get paid more.

I don't want that useless bastard, who hasn't earned the money he's been paid, to continue get paid, and potentially get paid more.

OnTheWarpath58
10-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Because if you cut him, you have to pay him, and he still can sign somewhere else and get paid more.

I don't want that useless bastard, who hasn't earned the money he's been paid, to continue get paid, and potentially get paid more.

I don't see another team signing him, much less paying him more.

Matter of fact, I think that whatever terms the new team comes to, is that amount less we have to pay him.

Just cut him, and be done with it. The entire idea of "the right 53" is already showing cracks, keeping him all but validates the thought of it being a sham.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:27 PM
Because if you cut him, you have to pay him, and he still can sign somewhere else and get paid more.

I don't want that useless bastard, who hasn't earned the money he's been paid, to continue get paid, and potentially get paid more.

Understandable, but what is the potentional harm if he does go and sign somewhere else?

I think Larry is done becuase of Herman Fucking Edwards ran him to the ground with that 416 carries in a single season.

I would have a hard time seeing another team paying him big money, becuase of his lack of production and most deftinaly a concern of his off-the-field issues/maturity issues.

If the NFL is going to suspend him for the rest of the season, then that's fine with me. I don't have a problem with that. However two problems I see. One is, I haven't seen a history of a player (to my knowledge, and I can be wrong on this) that a player get 4+ games suspension for making inappropriate comments. Secondly, after the NFL announces the suspension (if there is one, that is), LJ and his agent can appeal it.

And when the appeal is in the process, LJ isn't technically "suspended" until there is a decision made. I could see this dragging on and on until the end of the season.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:28 PM
I don't see another team signing him, much less paying him more.

Matter of fact, I think that whatever terms the new team comes to, is that amount less we have to pay him.

Just cut him, and be done with it. The entire idea of "the right 53" is already showing cracks, keeping him all but validates the thought of it being a sham.

Goddammit! :cuss:










:D

Kyle DeLexus
10-28-2009, 02:35 PM
Understandable, but what is the potentional harm if he does go and sign somewhere else?

I think Larry is done becuase of Herman ****ing Edwards ran him to the ground with that 416 carries in a single season.

I would have a hard time seeing another team paying him big money, becuase of his lack of production and most deftinaly a concern of his off-the-field issues/maturity issues.

If the NFL is going to suspend him for the rest of the season, then that's fine with me. I don't have a problem with that. However two problems I see. One is, I haven't seen a history of a player (to my knowledge, and I can be wrong on this) that a player get 4+ games suspension for making inappropriate comments. Secondly, after the NFL announces the suspension (if there is one, that is), LJ and his agent can appeal it.

And when the appeal is in the process, LJ isn't technically "suspended" until there is a decision made. I could see this dragging on and on until the end of the season.
"Under the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players' union, a team can suspend a player for as much as four games without pay during the regular season for conduct detrimental to the club."


We can still suspend him without pay for 4 weeks. There's no way he's getting suspended for the rest of the year by the NFL, but if he gets a 2-4 game suspension then the Chiefs pocket his gameday checks. If you expect him to be cut before the NFL either takes action or doesn't, it won't happen.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:38 PM
"Under the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players' union, a team can suspend a player for as much as four games without pay during the regular season for conduct detrimental to the club."


We can still suspend him without pay for 4 weeks. There's no way he's getting suspended for the rest of the year, but if he gets a 2-4 game suspension then the Chiefs pocket his gameday checks. If you expect him to be cut before the NFL either takes action or doesn't, it won't happen.

Okay, so there's 4 games, if the Chiefs decide to go with that direction. There's still 5 games left. One way or another, he's going to get paid, unless he gets suspended for the remainer of the season, which is unlikely.

So, it's probably best to suspend him for 4 games, and then cut him after that, finacially-wise speaking.

But then, it's also best to just cut him right now and not have to deal with the drama. Becuase if he does get suspended, then there'll be more drama, once the suspension is lifted. Cut him? Reactivating him? etc. etc. I think it creates more headaches.

milkman
10-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Understandable, but what is the potentional harm if he does go and sign somewhere else?

I think Larry is done becuase of Herman ****ing Edwards ran him to the ground with that 416 carries in a single season.

I would have a hard time seeing another team paying him big money, becuase of his lack of production and most deftinaly a concern of his off-the-field issues/maturity issues.

If the NFL is going to suspend him for the rest of the season, then that's fine with me. I don't have a problem with that. However two problems I see. One is, I haven't seen a history of a player (to my knowledge, and I can be wrong on this) that a player get 4+ games suspension for making inappropriate comments. Secondly, after the NFL announces the suspension (if there is one, that is), LJ and his agent can appeal it.

And when the appeal is in the process, LJ isn't technically "suspended" until there is a decision made. I could see this dragging on and on until the end of the season.

No harm.

I just can't stand the bastard and don't want to see him getting paid for doing nothing any longer.

OnTheWarpath58
10-28-2009, 02:42 PM
No harm.

I just can't stand the bastard and don't want to see him getting paid for doing nothing any longer.

He's been stealing a paycheck for several years, another 9 games isn't going to hurt anything.

Cut his ass, make an example of him, or the entire idea of the right 53 loses all credibility.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:43 PM
No harm.

I just can't stand the bastard and don't want to see him getting paid for doing nothing any longer.

You're not alone. I can't stand him either.

And here's something to ponder. May not be much, but it's a start, I suppose. from KFFL.com

Chiefs | Could inquire whether L. Johnson violated contract conditions

Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:00:39 -0700 ESPN.com reports the Kansas City Chiefs could be checking to see whether RB Larry Johnson violated contract provisions that would allow the Chiefs to cut him with reduced financial obligation after Johnson's use of a gay slur. Last spring, an arbitrator ruled that the Chiefs could release the running back and not owe him $3.5 million in guaranteed money because he had violated contract conditions by pleading guilty to disturbing the peace in another incident. The issue became moot when the team elected not to cut him.

So, apparently, it looks like KC is looking into the contract to see if there is a loophole where KC can release him without any financial obigations.

milkman
10-28-2009, 02:45 PM
He's been stealing a paycheck for several years, another 9 games isn't going to hurt anything.

Cut his ass, make an example of him, or the entire idea of the right 53 loses all credibility.

TRudy Niswanger, Mike Goff, Mike Brown, plus all the tree free agents.

Yeah, like that "Right 53" ever had any credibility.

OnTheWarpath58
10-28-2009, 02:46 PM
TRudy Niswanger, Mike Goff, Mike Brown, plus all the tree free agents.

Yeah, like that "Right 53" ever had any credibility.

Valid point.

Coach
10-28-2009, 02:46 PM
TRudy Niswanger, Mike Goff, Mike Brown, plus all the tree free agents.

Yeah, like that "Right 53" ever had any credibility.

Damn, that's some strong sauce.

Norman Einstein
10-28-2009, 02:50 PM
When LJ was producing his antics were kind of slid under the table, now that he is a non-producer there is no reason to put up with the diaper wearing child.

Iowanian
10-28-2009, 02:56 PM
They could run LJ out of KC, but at 2.3 ypc, it would take him a year and a half to get to Liberty, let alone the airport.

Easy 6
10-28-2009, 04:16 PM
I'm just ready to move clean on from this, its time.

For the record, i truly think Larry tried to put his best foot forward this year... he was proactive, coming to camp already slimmed down & saying ALL of the right things, i thought he'd bought in.

But... we forgave this, we forgave that, we forgave the other thing... this was just one too many.

Even the Planet is unanimous :eek:.

tonyetony
10-28-2009, 04:20 PM
He's gone this time. Time to move on. LJ might have briefly quit walking and talking like a duck but make no mistake this asshole was and will always be a fucking duck.

sedated
10-28-2009, 04:41 PM
"Under the collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players' union, a team can suspend a player for as much as four games without pay during the regular season for conduct detrimental to the club."


We can still suspend him without pay for 4 weeks. There's no way he's getting suspended for the rest of the year by the NFL, but if he gets a 2-4 game suspension then the Chiefs pocket his gameday checks. If you expect him to be cut before the NFL either takes action or doesn't, it won't happen.

Last year he was also suspended for conduct detrimental (Herm inactivated him for 3 weeks and the NFL suspended him for 1 more)

That makes this a 2nd offense, so the NFL can suspend him for 8 games without pay.

That only leaves the last week of the season, where we would keep him inactive.

Given the racial slurs and the reaction of the gay community, I could see the NFL going all the way with a suspension.

chefsos
10-28-2009, 05:16 PM
Here's what I think: Whatever it is that the Chiefs ultimately do with LJ, it should be done without emotion or malice or childishness (e.g., screwing him over as badly as possible). They should just do it, and be done with it, and let the chips fall where they may.

Just business, nothing personal.

HotRoute
10-28-2009, 05:25 PM
listen to the 10/28 Haley interview "With all due respect, I’m not answering anything on Larry Johnson thing. Period"

i think they are hoping he shuts his mouth, so they can bench him for a couple games and then play his ass for the rest of the season. all other twitter violations and stuff have only been met with fines. if they were smart they would let him play out the rest of the season and do well so he can build his trade value, because theres not much there now.

but as far as the "Right 53" mumbo jumbo, thats out the window if he isnt at least benched. kinda convieniant the timing of this, Lj must have known its the bye week, after the trade deadline, whats the worst they could do? bench me and still get paid? ugh ok i guess.. thats not the right 53 mentality thats where's my paycheck mentality and that sh*t belongs in Jokeland.

NY CHIEF
10-28-2009, 05:36 PM
I hope hes done with the chiefs!!!I dont want that dumb ass to get the record ROFL

Bwana
10-28-2009, 05:44 PM
They need to run him off now. He never should have been on the field at all this year, but it's time to kick him to the curb now. Don't let the door hit you in the ass thug boy.

Chief Faithful
10-28-2009, 05:51 PM
Best scenario is for him to return and play well so they can trade his a**.

FD
10-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Kolby Smith has been back and practicing for over a week now, is there any word coming out about how he's doing and the plans for him long term?

Count Alex's Losses
10-28-2009, 06:21 PM
Kolby Smith has been back and practicing for over a week now, is there any word coming out about how he's doing and the plans for him long term?

He's doing awesome.

Considering he had to re-learn how to walk.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/10/28/chiefs_insider_blog_whats_next/

The_Doctor10
10-28-2009, 07:06 PM
Best scenario is for him to return and play well so they can trade his a**.

He's a 30-tear old RB. He's got an untradeable contract. He's WORTHLESS. Cut him outright, NOW.

Spicy McHaggis
10-28-2009, 07:16 PM
Trade him to the Raiders for a conditional draft pick. As in, if they take him, we'll conditionally give them a pick.

Kyle DeLexus
10-28-2009, 07:18 PM
He's doing awesome.

Considering he had to re-learn how to walk.
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/10/28/chiefs_insider_blog_whats_next/

Just how bad was this injury that he had to re-learn how to talk?!?!

from the article

“It felt like a year,” Smith said. “First getting over the injury and learning how to talk again, jog and make cuts. Not doing anything with the team through the OTAs or training camp and up until the season until the last week. It felt like a long time.“

booger
10-28-2009, 07:25 PM
Larry Johnson. As somebody who handcuffed Jamaal Charles several weeks ago in fantasy football, I wish Johnson the best on his Nixon-like descent into madness. Funny story: I saw Johnson in person two weeks ago when the Chiefs played the Redskins. Without a doubt the worst body language I’ve ever seen from an athlete. I was texting Michael Lombardi with updates from my seat behind the Kansas City bench, it was so bad. Refusing to stretch, staying 20 yards from his position group, and, my personal favorite, making a big show of untucking his jersey in front of Todd Haley. The best part came when he managed to string together a few nice runs, prompting his thirty or so family and friends a few rows ahead of me to break out in cries of “One more year!” In retrospect, they were probably a bit optimistic.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Do-Not-Trust-These-Men-6594.html

Jerm
10-28-2009, 07:26 PM
Babb is saying on Twitter he's being suspended for two weeks.

KCrockaholic
10-28-2009, 07:59 PM
Larry Johnson. As somebody who handcuffed Jamaal Charles several weeks ago in fantasy football, I wish Johnson the best on his Nixon-like descent into madness. Funny story: I saw Johnson in person two weeks ago when the Chiefs played the Redskins. Without a doubt the worst body language I’ve ever seen from an athlete. I was texting Michael Lombardi with updates from my seat behind the Kansas City bench, it was so bad. Refusing to stretch, staying 20 yards from his position group, and, my personal favorite, making a big show of untucking his jersey in front of Todd Haley. The best part came when he managed to string together a few nice runs, prompting his thirty or so family and friends a few rows ahead of me to break out in cries of “One more year!” In retrospect, they were probably a bit optimistic.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Do-Not-Trust-These-Men-6594.html

ROFL What a loser.