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HonestChieffan
11-16-2009, 03:52 PM
Can they screw this up any worse?

First they claim to "save Jobs" and any idiot knows you cannot document something that didn't happen.

Then they overclaim saved and created on a massive scale, and now here it seems we have round three of the White House and Obama's merry go round of facts and figures. Next up. Michelle and the girls will give us an estimate, maybe ask the damn dog for his opinion.

Its understandable why the big Obomites and Obots have gone under cover at this point. This has to be embarrasing. If it wasnt such a huge cost to all of us it would be comedic. As it is its frightening the incompetence they continue to show.



ABC News Exclusive: Obama Admin Slashed 60,000 Jobs From Recent Stimulus Report
Office of Management & Budget Document: 12 Stimulus Recipients Reported 'Unrealistic Job Data'
By MATTHEW JAFFE
Nov. 16, 2009

The Obama administration, under fire for inflating job growth from the $787 billion stimulus plan, slashed over 60,000 jobs from its most recent report on the program because the reporting outlets had submitted "unrealistic data," according to a document obtained by ABC News.

A document from the Office of Management and Budget obtained by ABC News shows that before an Oct....
A document from the Office of Management and Budget obtained by ABC News shows that before an Oct. 30 progress report on the government stimulus program the administration asked the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board to remove information from 12 stimulus recipients that contained "unrealistic data," including "unrealistic job data." OMB deputy director Rob Nabors, pictured, said that most of the information that stimulus recipients provided to the government was good.
(/ABC News)The Office of Management and Budget document shows that before an Oct. 30 progress report on the program the administration asked the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board to remove information from 12 stimulus recipients that contained "unrealistic data," including "unrealistic job data." (Read the document here.)

One recipient Talladega County of Alabama claimed that 5,000 jobs had been saved or created from only $42,000 in stimulus funds.

$72,408 Per Stimulus Job? White House Says No"The administration committed from the start to be upfront with the American people about the impact of the Recovery Act. Overall, the recipients provided good information on the impact of the Recovery Act across the country," Rob Nabors, deputy director at OMB, told ABC News Monday. "The test that we used when examining the data for accuracy was, 'Is that reasonable?' When the answer was no, we acted accordingly."

"For instance," Nabors noted, "there is little chance that a $42,000 grant actually created 5,000 jobs, and we did not want that count to be part of the final jobs report. We are continuing to examine data for inconsistencies or errors, whether small or large. Given the unprecedented nature of this reporting effort, these are cautious, responsible steps to ensure that the information provided to the American people is accurate and reliable."

Some of the other recipients whose data was omitted included Belmont Metropolitan Housing Authority in Ohio that reported 16,120 jobs saved or created after receiving $1.3 million in stimulus funds from the Department of Housing and Urban Development. Shelton State Community College in Alabama reported 14,500 jobs saved or created after receiving $27,000 from the General Accounting Office. And Alkan Builders of Alaska reported 3,000 jobs saved or created after receiving $11 million from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Lawmaker Calls for OMB Testimony on Stimulus Jobs
All told, the omitted data from the 12 outlets reflected 60,803 jobs saved or created from over $20 million in stimulus funds. If the administration had included the data in its report last month, the total job growth from the stimulus would have exceeded 700,000, rather than the 640,000 ultimately reported.

However, OMB's role in filtering the jobs numbers led a senior Republican lawmaker to call for the agency to come to Capitol Hill to testify on its involvement.

On Thursday the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee will hold a hearing on how stimulus recipients account for their use of funds. The hearing will feature Earl Devaney, chair of the Recovery Act board, officials from the Department of Education and the Department of Transportation, and a representative from the Government Accountability Office, but no witnesses from OMB.

In light of the OMB document, the panel's ranking Republican called for an agency representative to be added to the witness list for Thursday's hearing.

"The more we learn about the administration's 'jobs created or saved' methodology, the more questions we have regarding its accuracy and validity," Rep. Darrell Issa told ABC News Sunday night. "Now we learn that OMB is playing an active role in trying to filter information. Given this hands-on role that the administration is playing, it would be appropriate to have OMB represented at Thursday's hearing."

Last month the administration claimed that 640,329 jobs had been saved or created because of the $159 billion in stimulus money allocated as of the end of September.

When the numbers were released October 30, the White House acknowledged that they were not exact, while touting the work they had done to make the report as accurate as possible. Ed DeSeve, senior advisor to the President for Recovery Act Implementation, said he had been "scrubbing" the job estimates so much that he now had "dishpan hands and my fingers are worn to the nub."


As ABCNews.com reported last week, Issa has sent a letter to Devaney challenging the stimulus jobs numbers.

Since the latest stimulus report, there have been numerous media reports that the jobs numbers were inflated.

The Associated Press said the report "significantly overstates the number of jobs spared with money from programs serving families and children, mostly the Head Start preschool program."

The Denver Post also cited overstated federal figures with the Colorado Head Start program, noting that the government reported 269 jobs saved or created by the program, but only three were actually saved or created.

The Chicago Tribune noted that the administration said $4.7 million in stimulus money for schools in north Chicago had saved the jobs of 473 teachers, but the school district only employed 290 teachers. The statistics claiming that stimulus money had helped save or create 14,330 school jobs in Illinois were "riddled with anomalies that raise questions about their validity."

The Boston Globe also reported that Massachusetts recipients of stimulus funds claimed that 12,000 jobs had been saved or created, "that number has been inflated by miscounts, erroneous figures, or claiming jobs for work not yet started."

Chief Henry
11-16-2009, 04:28 PM
mmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmmm Barack Hussein Obama

ROYC75
11-16-2009, 05:05 PM
Well ya know, they don't teach math in those classes.

AndChiefs
11-16-2009, 06:37 PM
even using the reported numbers it's well over 200k a job saved/created.

RedNeckRaider
11-16-2009, 08:03 PM
The list of distortions is shameful. The more it is checked the bigger the lies become. How anyone can defend these dumps is beyond me. How is that change working out so far folks?

KC Dan
11-16-2009, 08:40 PM
even using the reported numbers it's well over 200k a job saved/created.And, over 3.5 million jobs lost since inauguration but the Stimulus will keep unemployment below 8% and create 3-4 million jobs - right...........

Saul Good
11-16-2009, 08:47 PM
And, over 3.5 million jobs lost since inauguration but the Stimulus will keep unemployment below 8% and create 3-4 million jobs - right...........

I've figured it out. 3-4 million jobs created equals 3,999,997 jobs lost. It wasn't 3 million to 4 million, it was 3 minus 4 million. Obama's almost to his goal.

KC Dan
11-16-2009, 08:52 PM
What is amazing is that Obama's supporters and many of the talking heads are backing him up on this. They should be hammering this administratin since THEY (Admin and dems in Congress) touted that the Stimulus was all about "jobs, jobs, jobs". Simply amazing that they are getting a major league pass

Iowanian
11-16-2009, 09:50 PM
YOU LIE!

mikey23545
11-16-2009, 09:54 PM
Obama lied
The economy died.

RedNeckRaider
11-17-2009, 05:10 AM
Where are King Barry's sheep?

Iowanian
11-17-2009, 06:42 AM
WELL, LET DEM EAT CAKE!

BigRedChief
11-17-2009, 07:34 AM
What is amazing is that Obama's supporters and many of the talking heads are backing him up on this. They should be hammering this administratin since THEY (Admin and dems in Congress) touted that the Stimulus was all about "jobs, jobs, jobs". Simply amazing that they are getting a major league passNot from me. I've called BS on this one from the start. I was in favor of a stimulus that created infrastruture jobs, repaired our crumbling roads, bridges, repaired and updated sewer and water lines etc. Instead Pelosi loaded it up with crap she couldn't get through unde Bush and made the bill jobs creating watered down. Obama went along with it because of his philosphy of not letting the perfect get in the way of doing good.

He is responsible for allowing Pelosi to put that BS in the bill.

HonestChieffan
11-17-2009, 07:43 AM
Not from me. I've called BS on this one from the start. I was in favor of a stimulus that created infrastruture jobs, repaired our crumbling roads, bridges, repaired and updated sewer and water lines etc. Instead Pelosi loaded it up with crap she couldn't get through unde Bush and made the bill jobs creating watered down. Obama went along with it because of his philosphy of not letting the perfect get in the way of doing good.

He is responsible for allowing Pelosi to put that BS in the bill.

He had the opportunity to lead, he didn't. He had the opportunity to point out the garbage. He didn't. He has the veto. He didn't.

Can't blame Bush. Can't blame Pelosi. This is his ugly baby.

Otter
11-17-2009, 07:49 AM
Let's not forget 'ol bumfuck Barry wants to reward 15 million boarder jumpers and make them eligible for healthcare, welfare, food stamps, education etc as well as put them in direct competition for what little jobs are left. Where's that money gonna come from?

Aren't we trillions in debt already?

All while Americans lose their houses and jobs by the way.

Bumfuck Barry won't be happy until you can't tell the difference between Mexico and the US. That worthless ass hat and his cronies are hell bent and determined to turn the US into a 3rd world cess pool.

HonestChieffan
11-17-2009, 07:54 AM
15 million votes go a long way in a tight race.....

BigRedChief
11-17-2009, 07:56 AM
He had the opportunity to lead, he didn't. He had the opportunity to point out the garbage. He didn't. He has the veto. He didn't.

Can't blame Bush. Can't blame Pelosi. This is his ugly baby.uhhhh isn't that what I just said?:harumph:

HonestChieffan
11-17-2009, 07:59 AM
uhhhh isn't that what I just said?:harumph:

I took from your comment that you held Nan responsible and not the Prez. If I misread it, my bad.

alpha_omega
11-17-2009, 08:14 AM
Wow...how is anyone sure what to believe anymore?

ROYC75
11-17-2009, 08:40 AM
Wow...how is anyone sure what to believe anymore?

We don't, all we believe is when his lips are moving his mouth is lying. Bought all you can really take for for facts anymore.

Jenson71
11-17-2009, 08:46 AM
We don't, all we believe is when his lips are moving his mouth is lying. Bought all you can really take for for facts anymore.

How much Kentucky moonshine have you been chugging?

RedNeckRaider
11-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Come on sheep spin this shit! Oh wait you know this is only going to get worse the more it is looked into. Good call just wait and hope it drops off the 1st page~

KCTitus
11-17-2009, 07:22 PM
So...does this mean that ABC is now no longer an 'legitimate' news organization because it's critical of the B. Hussein Obama administration?

Have to admit it's suprising to see any 'news' organization other than Fox come up with this story.

RedNeckRaider
11-17-2009, 07:28 PM
So...does this mean that ABC is now no longer an 'legitimate' news organization because it's critical of the B. Hussein Obama administration?

The thought police are interveiwing employees as we type~

petegz28
11-17-2009, 07:49 PM
So...does this mean that ABC is now no longer an 'legitimate' news organization because it's critical of the B. Hussein Obama administration?

Have to admit it's suprising to see any 'news' organization other than Fox come up with this story.

Has to be the second coming of talk radio!

wild1
11-17-2009, 10:25 PM
Let's not forget 'ol bum**** Barry wants to reward 15 million boarder jumpers and make them eligible for healthcare, welfare, food stamps, education etc as well as put them in direct competition for what little jobs are left. Where's that money gonna come from?

Aren't we trillions in debt already?

All while Americans lose their houses and jobs by the way.

Bum**** Barry won't be happy until you can't tell the difference between Mexico and the US. That worthless ass hat and his cronies are hell bent and determined to turn the US into a 3rd world cess pool.

mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm!

KCWolfman
11-18-2009, 12:19 AM
Not a single defense here....

And the press is finally catching on as well.

This thing was supposed to be about shovel ready jobs first and foremost, it has turned out to be nothing but fodder for fat elitists with NO ONE to blame but the liberals in control of all three facets of the Legislative branch.

RedNeckRaider
11-18-2009, 05:27 AM
Not a single defense here....

And the press is finally catching on as well.

This thing was supposed to be about shovel ready jobs first and foremost, it has turned out to be nothing but fodder for fat elitists with NO ONE to blame but the liberals in control of all three facets of the Legislative branch.

That is why I bumped it again, this is going to get worse as the silly claims get looked at closer. The sheep know they can not spin this away. They are whistling though the graveyard looking to pick a fight over Palin or anything besides this.

BigRedChief
11-18-2009, 06:55 AM
Not a single defense here....There can be no excuses. They screwed the pooch on this one by letting Pelosi write the damn thing. And letting Pelosi do that is on Obama. The buck stops there.