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penguinz
01-15-2010, 02:47 PM
Rush Limbaugh is using the catastrophe in Haiti for his own on the air purposes. His infamous scowling at liberals has now been taken to the lowest level possible. Right now, people are donating time and money to help those in dire need, but Rush Limbaugh uses his time to tell his listeners not to donate. Media Matters quotes Rush further (http://mediamatters.org/research/201001130047). He’s using this to once more attack the President. Next, he’ll say the earthquake is ACORN’s fault. I’ll leave you with this:


LIMBAUGH: Would you trust the money’s gonna go to Haiti?
CALLER: No.
LIMBAUGH: But would you trust that your name is gonna end up on the mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?
CALLER: Absolutely.
LIMBAUGH: Absolutely right.
CALLER: That’s the point.
LIMBAUGH: Besides, we’ve already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.


http://bit.ly/5fw2Go

NewChief
01-15-2010, 02:57 PM
I'd imagine that there's some equally reprehensible behavior occurring on the liberal side of the fence on this issue, but that's just sick. And from the 2nd most influential conservative in the country, too.

Brock
01-15-2010, 03:08 PM
I recall that a lot of people donating money to the Red Cross after 9/11 were surprised to find out what happened to that money.

Pitt Gorilla
01-15-2010, 03:11 PM
Our small church put together aid packages after choir on Wednesday and have a family that is personally going to take it to Haiti (once the airports are back online). The family has one adopted Haitian daughter and is/was in the process of adopting another. It's just a complete mess over there.

petegz28
01-15-2010, 03:13 PM
I could understand being hesitant to send cash money. Now food or medical supplies I would have no concerns about.

Rigodan
01-15-2010, 03:17 PM
If you look at the whole thing he's just saying don't go through the white house web site to donate.

Cmon people, this is just a dishonest attempt from the left to make Rush look bad.

Hydrae
01-15-2010, 03:22 PM
Hopefully this causes all kinds of backlash for him and he can take his crap off the air. Not that I think any replacement would be much better but I know I am tired of him being "someone."

patteeu
01-15-2010, 03:26 PM
It's dishonest to tell only part of the story. It's almost as dishonest to quote mediamatters since their SOP is taking their conservative targets out of context.

Even mediamatters tells us that Limbaugh was talking particularly about donating money through links on the White House website. I wouldn't donate through those links either. There are plenty of other ways to help out without giving our narcissist-in-chief the chance to take credit for it and without ending up on a WH email list. Donate through your church. Donate through Jilly's church. Donate directly to the Red Cross. Etc., etc.

Radar Chief
01-15-2010, 03:27 PM
If you look at the whole thing he's just saying don't go through the white house web site to donate.

Cmon people, this is just a dishonest attempt from the left to make Rush look bad.

Funny thing is he predicted this is exactly what would happen.

Bwana
01-15-2010, 03:53 PM
Hopefully this causes all kinds of backlash for him and he can take his crap off the air. Not that I think any replacement would be much better but I know I am tired of him being "someone."

ROFL

Yeah, good luck with that.

BucEyedPea
01-15-2010, 03:58 PM
Geez, Americans freely donated money directly for the Indonesian tusnami and gave more than the heavily taxed socialist countries of Europe gave through their govt.

Give to a known and credible private group you trust.

HonestChieffan
01-15-2010, 04:39 PM
Typical overstatement of what was said.

I gave through the Methodist Church. But to give through Obamas site are you kidding me? Or the red cross?...no I prefer the donation get to the people who need it.

orange
01-15-2010, 04:51 PM
But to give through Obamas site are you kidding me? Or the red cross?...no I prefer the donation get to the people who need it.

The Obama site in question:


The White House Blog

Help for Haiti
Posted by Jesse Lee on January 13, 2010 at 09:53 AM EST

The President has been receiving updates on the urgent situation in Haiti late into last night and throughout the day, and top members of his team have been convening to formulate the government response.

You can also help immediately by donating to the Red Cross to assist the relief effort. Contribute online to the Red Cross (http://american.redcross.org/supporthaiti), or donate $10 to be charged to your cell phone bill by texting "HAITI" to "90999." Find more ways to help through the Center for International Disaster Information. (http://www.cidi.org/incident/haiti-10a/)

Families of Americans living in Haiti are encouraged to contact the State Department at 888-407-4747.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/13/help-haiti

Since you guys are all for "context" and everything.

What there is objectionable again? Is it the link to the Red Cross or the one to the Center for International Disaster Information?

HonestChieffan
01-15-2010, 04:58 PM
http://www.charitywatch.org/

Pitt Gorilla
01-15-2010, 04:58 PM
LIMBAUGH: That place, Haiti, has been run by dictators and communists. And how long is it gonna be, how long is it gonna be before we hear Obama and the left in this country say that what we really need to do is reinstate the communist Aristide to the leadership position down there to coordinate putting the country back together? The Haitian economy is entirely dependent on foreign aid. They produce nothing -- zilch, zero, nada.

HonestChieffan
01-15-2010, 04:59 PM
The Obama site in question:


The White House Blog

Help for Haiti
Posted by Jesse Lee on January 13, 2010 at 09:53 AM EST

The President has been receiving updates on the urgent situation in Haiti late into last night and throughout the day, and top members of his team have been convening to formulate the government response.

You can also help immediately by donating to the Red Cross to assist the relief effort. Contribute online to the Red Cross (http://american.redcross.org/supporthaiti), or donate $10 to be charged to your cell phone bill by texting "HAITI" to "90999." Find more ways to help through the Center for International Disaster Information. (http://www.cidi.org/incident/haiti-10a/)

Families of Americans living in Haiti are encouraged to contact the State Department at 888-407-4747.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/13/help-haiti

Since you guys are all for "context" and everything.

What there is objectionable again? Is it the link to the Red Cross or the one to the Center for International Disaster Information?

There are more efficient charities. Dont get your panty in a wad.

Pitt Gorilla
01-15-2010, 05:01 PM
Typical overstatement of what was said.

I gave through the Methodist Church. But to give through Obamas site are you kidding me? Or the red cross?...no I prefer the donation get to the people who need it.Per your link, the American Red Cross would be one of the better choices. Do you believe your own link or not?

orange
01-15-2010, 05:02 PM
http://www.charitywatch.org/

Means exactly nothing.

Which organization linked on the Obama website is objectionable? Is it the Red Cross or the Center for International Disaster Information?

Pitt Gorilla
01-15-2010, 05:02 PM
It's dishonest to tell only part of the story. It's almost as dishonest to quote mediamatters since their SOP is taking their conservative targets out of context.

Even mediamatters tells us that Limbaugh was talking particularly about donating money through links on the White House website. I wouldn't donate through those links either. There are plenty of other ways to help out without giving our narcissist-in-chief the chance to take credit for it and without ending up on a WH email list. Donate through your church. Donate through Jilly's church. Donate directly to the Red Cross. Etc., etc.Doesn't the link on the White House website go directly to the Red Cross, which you suggested was a good idea?

Why would you not donate directly to the Red Cross? Er, I guess you would.

HonestChieffan
01-15-2010, 05:10 PM
http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/

VAChief
01-15-2010, 05:12 PM
"Haiti? You can't even pick up a prostitute down there without genuine fear of Aids."

Well, at least we know why he chose the Dominican for his romp with the boys with his boner pills (NTTAWWT). .

orange
01-15-2010, 05:14 PM
http://new.gbgm-umc.org/umcor/

Again you dodge the question.

Which organization linked on the Obama website is objectionable? Is it the Red Cross or the Center for International Disaster Information?

More specifically, which one is Limbaugh claiming is crooked?

LIMBAUGH: Would you trust the money’s gonna go to Haiti?

As for giving to the Methodist Church, Rush has already answered that:

LIMBAUGH: Besides, we’ve already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.

HonestChieffan
01-15-2010, 05:16 PM
Red cross is higher cost per dollar delivered. Is that "objectionable?" I dont know, I do'nt object, I just prefer to be as efficient as I can. The point is make an effort where you want to, its your money and they need help in any way they can get it. Just do what you think is right.

wild1
01-15-2010, 06:08 PM
His response:

"It's a lie that I urged people not to give to charity for Haiti. Nobody in their right mind would ever believe that about me or anyone else. I did say find some way to do it other than giving it to the government and Obama, 'cause I know he's going to eliminate the charitable deduction."

orange
01-15-2010, 06:18 PM
His response:

"It's a lie that I urged people not to give to charity for Haiti. Nobody in their right mind would ever believe that about me or anyone else. I did say find some way to do it other than giving it to the government and Obama, 'cause I know he's going to eliminate the charitable deduction."

Of course, there's nothing on that website he was talking about that sends money to "the government and Obama."

Limbaugh's defense is that he spoke in stupid ignorance?

What the website/government DID actually do:

CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller reports that the American public has responded to the Haiti crisis so far by donating more than $8 million to the American Red Cross for Haiti relief — $10 dollars at a time — by texting HAITI to 90999. The Red Cross successfully implemented the text-to-donate solution with the assistance of the U.S. State Department and the promotion of the Obama Administration.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/15/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6100434.shtml

orange
01-15-2010, 06:47 PM
This is nothing but the left-wing drive-by media piling on poor little Rushbo again:

But regardless of the intended context, Limbaugh’s comments have been widely panned.

“They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.”

Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.”

“The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31502.html#ixzz0cjg3WzGk

mlyonsd
01-15-2010, 07:00 PM
Rush is absolutely right on this.

There is no sane reason to go thru a third party to donate money if you know where you want it sent in the first place.

Stupid thread.

WhitiE
01-15-2010, 07:02 PM
If you look at the whole thing he's just saying don't go through the white house web site to donate.

Cmon people, this is just a dishonest attempt from the left to make Rush look bad.

people cant read......

Pitt Gorilla
01-15-2010, 07:27 PM
Rush is absolutely right on this.

There is no sane reason to go thru a third party to donate money if you know where you want it sent in the first place.

Stupid thread.Rush is right in suggesting that the money might not go to Haiti or that "your name is gonna end up on the mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?" The link on the WH site appears to go directly to the American Red Cross. How could it possibly be a bad thing to provide a link to the Red Cross site?

Deberg_1990
01-15-2010, 07:46 PM
I think if Rush showed a little more compassion and empathy, he might not get hammered so much.

I actually believe in most of his political views, but i find him to be a complete, self serving, arrogant D-bag. I cant stand it.

Thig Lyfe
01-15-2010, 07:46 PM
I could understand being hesitant to send cash money. Now food or medical supplies I would have no concerns about.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/haiti/100113/haiti-earthquake-aid

Haiti: Help with money, not stuff
After every major disaster, misguided donations actually worsen the suffering.

By David Case — GlobalPost
Published: January 13, 2010 18:27 ET

BOSTON — The images emerging from Haiti’s massive earthquake are gut-wrenching. As usual in such disasters, Americans are responding generously. Millions of dollars will be raised.

If you’re considering doing your part, that’s great. But, experts say, whatever you do, don’t donate anything but money. Under no circumstances should you mail care packages, toys, food or clothes. Don’t even think about sending drugs. The response to prior disasters shows that regardless of your intentions, you will only be making matters worse.

That’s what happened in the aftermath of the December 2004 tsunami. The disaster was followed by an unprecedented outpouring of global generosity. This dramatically facilitated the grisly chore of cleaning up the tens of thousands of bodies left under the tropical sun, and it funded a reconstruction effort that, while far from perfect, provided roofs over the heads of many.

But aid workers joked that the real tsunami was followed by another tsunami — of misguided goodwill. In an effort to help, people shipped boxes, often following the instructions of local television news programs. And so in Aceh, Indonesia amid the trauma, hunger and devastation, care packages piled up containing everything from pajamas and teddy bears to birth control pills and Bibles — a hodgepodge impossible to sort through. There were boxes filled with half-used ointments and prescription drugs, as if do-gooders had cleaned out their medicine cabinets. And some unscrupulous corporations — exploiting tax write-offs for soon-to-be-expired pharmaceuticals — apparently shipped whatever had been lying around the warehouse for too long.

It all amounted to a mountain of materials that confounded the efforts of the pros, and made it more difficult to deliver essential supplies on the earthquake-ravaged roads.

Months after the aftershocks stopped, the French aid organization Pharmaciens Sans Frontieres (Pharmacists Without Borders) conducted a study of that second tsunami. In a world where most people lack adequate access to medicine, the results were a travesty.

The group found that although officials didn’t request any medicine, they received 4,000 metric tons of it, or more than 4 pounds for each person in the tsunami-affected area. There were multiple-year supplies of antibiotics, and palette loads of drugs unknown to health care providers. Seventy percent of it was labeled in a language that locals did not understand.

Disasters like the Haiti earthquake and the Indian Ocean tsunami present colossal logistical challenges. Nonetheless, in Aceh officials and relief workers did their best to sort through this stock: Drugs were stored in private homes, in hospitals rooms and corridors (despite a desperate shortage of space for patients). Eighty-four percent of the facilities lacked air conditioning, rendering their contents unusable, according to the study. A large depot near Aceh’s airport was so overwhelmed that mountains of pricey pharmaceuticals were dumped outside to rot under the monsoons and tropical sun.

Of course, the donors were only trying to help, but misplaced intentions actually worsened the suffering. Buried under care packages and out of date antibiotics labeled in Thai and Chinese were the world’s most advanced malaria medications. Meanwhile along the coast, people who had just lost homes and families writhed in malarial fever for lack of treatment.

In the end, most of the drugs had to be incinerated — you can’t simply send such a stock to the dump, where it would seep into the ground water and create another health hazard. That cost donors and the Indonesian government millions.

Aceh was by no means unusual in this regard. Massive shipments of useless medicine arrived on the scenes of other heavily televised disasters, such as the Armenian earthquake in 1988 and the Albanian exodus from Kosovo in the late 1990s. After the war ended in Bosnia, 17,000 tons of inappropriate donations had to be burned, according to Pharmaciens Sans Frontieres. Aid workers struggling to ease suffering after Hurricane Mitch reportedly worked late into the night sorting through half-used tubes of Preparation H and opened bottles of Prozac.

Such harmful donations will almost certainly flood Haiti as well in the coming days. But if you want to help, send money to a reputable aid group instead.

mlyonsd
01-15-2010, 07:51 PM
Rush is right in suggesting that the money might not go to Haiti or that "your name is gonna end up on the mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?" The link on the WH site appears to go directly to the American Red Cross. How could it possibly be a bad thing to provide a link to the Red Cross site?

Throw the WH, RC, Haiti, everyone out of the equation.

Tell me, if you wanted to buy something from Cabelas why you would go through Walmart's website to do it?

Now fast forward to the Obama administration's history of spamming emails.

Rush is right.

RJ
01-15-2010, 08:16 PM
Out of curiosity I checked the White House website. There is a link to the Red Cross. When you click it, you immediately leave the White House site with the message "You are leaving the White House server". I don't believe there is any way anyone but the Red Cross could be getting your email address.

Rush has made much ado about nothing, as have his critics. Same old shit, different day.

mlyonsd
01-15-2010, 08:18 PM
Out of curiosity I checked the White House website. There is a link to the Red Cross. When you click it, you immediately leave the White House site with the message "You are leaving the White House server". I don't believe there is any way anyone but the Red Cross could be getting your email address.

Rush has made much ado about nothing, as have his critics. Same old shit, different day.

ROFL

googlegoogle
01-15-2010, 08:21 PM
Hopefully this causes all kinds of backlash for him and he can take his crap off the air. Not that I think any replacement would be much better but I know I am tired of him being "someone."

Over 3 billion dollars to Haiti.

Open your own wallet.

Those people elected corrupt officials.

TEX
01-15-2010, 08:23 PM
Out of curiosity I checked the White House website. There is a link to the Red Cross. When you click it, you immediately leave the White House site with the message "You are leaving the White House server". I don't believe there is any way anyone but the Red Cross could be getting your email address.

Rush has made much ado about nothing, as have his critics. Same old shit, different day.

I suppose you believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the freaking Tooth Fairy too. Man, when will some of you wake up???..:shake:

BTW, I can't dislike you as long as you have # 89 as your AV - so please remove it...Thanks!

googlegoogle
01-15-2010, 08:28 PM
Easy = Bill Clinton and Madonna going to Haiti for photo opportunities and pub.

Hard = Rush going against populism and current sentiment and telling everyone of Haiti's corrupt history where AID dollars have been stolen and money mismanaged and never ever helping the people there. Was most of that money used to build safer buildings? No.

Haiti created this mess with terrible building codes on a earthquake fault.

RJ
01-15-2010, 08:29 PM
ROFL



Why is that funny?



Edit: Ok, it goes straight to the donation page so I guess they can. I'm not that cynical to think that way.

RJ
01-15-2010, 08:37 PM
I suppose you believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the freaking Tooth Fairy too. Man, when will some of you wake up???..:shake:

BTW, I can't dislike you as long as you have # 89 as your AV - so please remove it...Thanks!


Really, you would dislike me cause we disagree about something political? I'm glad I don't do that, otherwise I wouldn't have many friends.

But I'm afraid I gotta keep the av.

VAChief
01-15-2010, 08:51 PM
I think if Rush showed a little more compassion and empathy, he might not get hammered so much.

I actually believe in most of his political views, but i find him to be a complete, self serving, arrogant D-bag. I cant stand it.

The irony of his self serving claims seems to be lost on those willing to lick his taint on a daily basis and condone, ignore and/or justify his hypocrisy. The man has contributed nothing of value to society other than inflame. He is no better than the loons on the fringe left who pander to the unthinking and weakminded.

TigerPig
01-16-2010, 02:37 AM
Rush Limbaugh is an attention whore who consoles his core audience while pissing off those who don't listen (maybe even getting them to tune in in order to see what's next). He has to do this stuff in order to KEEP HIS JOB.

The guy is not intelligent, witty, clever or anything of that sort. He is a celebrity and entertainer. He's like a political version of Jim Rome. Just spouts off some harsh, mildly rude comments and laces it with the occasional whopper to get everyone's attention outside of his core audience.

And for the record this has nothing to do with my political affiliation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out for a radio personality ratings = job security = higher salary. Whether it be politics, sports, celebrity gossip... it doesn't matter.

Saggysack
01-16-2010, 05:07 AM
I suppose you believe in Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and the freaking Tooth Fairy too. Man, when will some of you wake up???..:shake:

No.

But it seems that you still believe in the boogeyman.

patteeu
01-16-2010, 06:37 AM
The Obama site in question:


The White House Blog

Help for Haiti
Posted by Jesse Lee on January 13, 2010 at 09:53 AM EST

The President has been receiving updates on the urgent situation in Haiti late into last night and throughout the day, and top members of his team have been convening to formulate the government response.

You can also help immediately by donating to the Red Cross to assist the relief effort. Contribute online to the Red Cross (http://american.redcross.org/supporthaiti), or donate $10 to be charged to your cell phone bill by texting "HAITI" to "90999." Find more ways to help through the Center for International Disaster Information. (http://www.cidi.org/incident/haiti-10a/)

Families of Americans living in Haiti are encouraged to contact the State Department at 888-407-4747.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/01/13/help-haiti

Since you guys are all for "context" and everything.

What there is objectionable again? Is it the link to the Red Cross or the one to the Center for International Disaster Information?

It's the part about going to the WH site in the first place to make your donation and trusting their choice of charities instead of going directly to the trusted charity of your choice. Sorry if that wasn't already made clear.

patteeu
01-16-2010, 06:41 AM
Per your link, the American Red Cross would be one of the better choices. Do you believe your own link or not?

What's wrong with Limbaugh suggesting that his listeners make that choice for themselves instead of letting the Obama administration make it for them?

patteeu
01-16-2010, 06:43 AM
Well, at least we know why he chose the Dominican for his romp with the boys with his boner pills (NTTAWWT). .

In your experience, are the boys better elsewhere?

mlyonsd
01-16-2010, 06:44 AM
Why is that funny?



Edit: Ok, it goes straight to the donation page so I guess they can. I'm not that cynical to think that way.

Usually I'm not either but the Obama adminisration track record of misusing mailing lists opened this door for Rush.

I'm on record as declaring Rush a pompous windbag A-hole that sometimes does more harm than good but in this case he's got a valid point.

patteeu
01-16-2010, 06:52 AM
Rush is right in suggesting that the money might not go to Haiti or that "your name is gonna end up on the mailing list for the Obama people to start asking you for campaign donations for him and other causes?" The link on the WH site appears to go directly to the American Red Cross. How could it possibly be a bad thing to provide a link to the Red Cross site?

How could it possibly be a bad thing for my neighbor, the child molestor, to give my daughter a ride to school? She's got to go to school anyway doesn't she?

You asked about possibilities, not what is likely. In all likelihood, there's nothing wrong with donating to the Red Cross via Obama's WH website, but there's also nothing wrong with telling people to avoid Obama's website altogether and do whatever donating you're going to do directly. This thread started out as a smear against Limbaugh as if he was trying to tell people not to make donations for assistance to the Haitians at all but, having been discredited, it's now moving to a fall back position of why shouldn't everyone go through the WH website. I'd say that's a pretty big retreat.

mlyonsd
01-16-2010, 07:02 AM
This thread started out as a smear against Limbaugh as if he was trying to tell people not to make donations for assistance to the Haitians at all but, having been discredited, it's now moving to a fall back position of why shouldn't everyone go through the WH website. I'd say that's a pretty big retreat.

A quick search of the thread didn't come up with any hits on 'pill popping' so even though there has been a retreat still no sign of a white flag.

patteeu
01-16-2010, 07:45 AM
A quick search of the thread didn't come up with any hits on 'pill popping' so even though there has been a retreat still no sign of a white flag.

LMAO We have had a dominican boys and boner pills post though so we might need an officials' ruling.

whatsmynameagain
01-16-2010, 07:47 AM
hi, my name is rush limbaugh. see that nothing? time to turn it into something....id like like it all in $100s, thank you!
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patteeu
01-16-2010, 07:50 AM
hi, my name is rush limbaugh. see that nothing? time to turn it into something....id like like it all in $100s, thank you!
Posted via Mobile Device

I must be one of the dumb conservatives because whatsmynameagain is talking over my head. Could one of the smart liberals interpret for me?

stevieray
01-16-2010, 07:58 AM
Rush Limbaugh is an attention whore who consoles his core audience while pissing off those who don't listen (maybe even getting them to tune in in order to see what's next). He has to do this stuff in order to KEEP HIS JOB.

The guy is not intelligent, witty, clever or anything of that sort. He is a celebrity and entertainer. He's like a political version of Jim Rome. Just spouts off some harsh, mildly rude comments and laces it with the occasional whopper to get everyone's attention outside of his core audience.

And for the record this has nothing to do with my political affiliation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out for a radio personality ratings = job security = higher salary. Whether it be politics, sports, celebrity gossip... it doesn't matter.

sounds like you fit your mold perfectly.

VAChief
01-16-2010, 09:57 AM
What's wrong with Limbaugh suggesting that his listeners make that choice for themselves instead of letting the Obama administration make it for them?

Nothing, and there is nothing wrong with suggesting that the political motivation he assumes is the motive is exactly his own motive...considering his past statements on Haiti and their people.

If Al Sharpton suggested don't donate to the government site for Katrina because its only a politically motivated attempt to garner sympathy and votes you wouldn't view that as suspect?

Again, this isn't someone who holds much moral credibility. He didn't initially say "folks be careful, we need to help these people out, but be careful choose a source you are confident that the money will get to those you want to help." No, he immediately MADE it an Obama issue when the whole civilized world is viewing this tragedy in horror.

RedNeckRaider
01-16-2010, 10:01 AM
Nothing, and there is nothing wrong with suggesting that the political motivation he assumes is the motive is exactly his own motive...considering his past statements on Haiti and their people.

If Al Sharpton suggested don't donate to government Katrina because its only a politically motivated attempt to garner sympathy and votes you wouldn't view that as suspect?

Again, this isn't someone who holds much moral credibility. He didn't initially say "folks be careful, we need to help these people out, but be careful choose a source you are confident that the money will get to those you want to help." No, he immediately MADE it an Obama issue when the whole civilized world is viewing this tragedy in horror.

Rep~

VAChief
01-16-2010, 10:06 AM
In your experience, are the boys better elsewhere?

I don't have those feelings Pat, but I support your own curiosity. :)

whatsmynameagain
01-16-2010, 11:10 AM
I must be one of the dumb conservatives because whatsmynameagain is talking over my head. Could one of the smart liberals interpret for me?

It doesn't necessarily have to be because your a conservative that your dumb. Basically I was saying that Rush is taking nothing and making it into an issue and getting publicity = hundred dollar bills yall!

Im really sick of talking "party lines." We are all getting fucked together. The only thing is, that in this fucking, we get no release. I like to release. Divided we fall and that is what is happening. The American people have played right into the hands of the money bags and they are ROFL. Right now our situation would be the same or worse had JM/SP been in the office. Follow the money. From bird flu to swine flu, from the bush to obama, whod the banks pick?

banyon
01-16-2010, 01:22 PM
If the White House really wants your email, they can get it much more easily than some weblink-based charity trick. bottom line, just another paranoid persecution fantasy by Rush.

Calcountry
01-16-2010, 01:33 PM
This is nothing but the left-wing drive-by media piling on poor little Rushbo again:
But regardless of the intended context, Limbaugh’s comments have been widely panned.

“They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.”

Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.”

“The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31502.html#ixzz0cjg3WzGk
Scarburrogh and Buchannan on CNBC acted deplored? :hmmm: Have you ever considered the company they keep on that network? They know who signs their paychecks. Couple of freaking sellouts is what they are.

Buchannan, is an antisemite, nazi sympathiser. Scarburrough is as shake as it gets too, they are just pimpin for cash, plain and simple.

orange
01-16-2010, 02:17 PM
Scarburrogh and Buchannan on CNBC acted deplored? :hmmm: Have you ever considered the company they keep on that network? They know who signs their paychecks. Couple of freaking sellouts is what they are.

Buchannan, is an antisemite, nazi sympathiser. Scarburrough is as shake as it gets too, they are just pimpin for cash, plain and simple.

How about O'Reilly and Gallagher? Sellouts too?

Conservatives Criticize Limbaugh’s Haiti Comments On The O’Reilly Factor
by Joe Coscarelli | 11:05 am, January 16th, 2010» 4 comments

Last night on The O’Reilly Factor, Bill welcomed two radio hosts to discuss “misguided” attacks on President Obama’s response to the tragedy in Haiti. He lead the Impact Segment by calling out “some conservative radio people,” but vying for public enemy #1 (along with Pat Robertson, of course) in terms of insensitivity, is none other than Rush Limbaugh. On The Factor, conservatives agreed: the attacks are over the line.

“It’s not a bad thing he responds quickly to Haiti, is it?” O’Reilly demanded. Mike Gallagher agreed, noting that it was “uncomfortable for me to criticize some of my fellow conservative hosts,” but that Obama-directed criticisms were indeed misguided. “It frustrates the heck out of me,” Gallagher continued. “It’s what the rabid left does — this is the kind of crap they pull. We shouldn’t be doing it on our side and I’m more than a little bit embarrassed by some of it.”

“It’s the antithesis of conservatism!” he fumed on. “The White House is doing plenty with which we can find fault, we don’t need to use an earthquake to beat up Barack Obama over.”

O’Reilly also took the opportunity to cite his own criticism of President Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina, calling Obama’s Haiti response as more effective. It was a moment of complete rationality on The Factor last night, and it’s difficult to not see Gallagher’s point: with the way the upcoming elections seem to be trending, the right might not need cheap shots.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-defending-obama-conservatives-criticize-limbaughs-haiti-comments-on-the-factor/

googlegoogle
01-16-2010, 02:30 PM
Hopefully this causes all kinds of backlash for him and he can take his crap off the air. Not that I think any replacement would be much better but I know I am tired of him being "someone."

Someone doesn't listen.

googlegoogle
01-16-2010, 02:32 PM
How about O'Reilly and Gallagher? Sellouts too?

Conservatives Criticize Limbaugh’s Haiti Comments On The O’Reilly Factor
by Joe Coscarelli | 11:05 am, January 16th, 2010» 4 comments

Last night on The O’Reilly Factor, Bill welcomed two radio hosts to discuss “misguided” attacks on President Obama’s response to the tragedy in Haiti. He lead the Impact Segment by calling out “some conservative radio people,” but vying for public enemy #1 (along with Pat Robertson, of course) in terms of insensitivity, is none other than Rush Limbaugh. On The Factor, conservatives agreed: the attacks are over the line.

“It’s not a bad thing he responds quickly to Haiti, is it?” O’Reilly demanded. Mike Gallagher agreed, noting that it was “uncomfortable for me to criticize some of my fellow conservative hosts,” but that Obama-directed criticisms were indeed misguided. “It frustrates the heck out of me,” Gallagher continued. “It’s what the rabid left does — this is the kind of crap they pull. We shouldn’t be doing it on our side and I’m more than a little bit embarrassed by some of it.”

“It’s the antithesis of conservatism!” he fumed on. “The White House is doing plenty with which we can find fault, we don’t need to use an earthquake to beat up Barack Obama over.”

O’Reilly also took the opportunity to cite his own criticism of President Bush’s response to Hurricane Katrina, calling Obama’s Haiti response as more effective. It was a moment of complete rationality on The Factor last night, and it’s difficult to not see Gallagher’s point: with the way the upcoming elections seem to be trending, the right might not need cheap shots.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/oreilly-defending-obama-conservatives-criticize-limbaughs-haiti-comments-on-the-factor/


I watched it. They don't embody the conservatives. Most people have had it with Haiti is the point.

googlegoogle
01-16-2010, 02:33 PM
Rush Limbaugh is an attention whore who consoles his core audience while pissing off those who don't listen (maybe even getting them to tune in in order to see what's next). He has to do this stuff in order to KEEP HIS JOB.

The guy is not intelligent, witty, clever or anything of that sort. He is a celebrity and entertainer. He's like a political version of Jim Rome. Just spouts off some harsh, mildly rude comments and laces it with the occasional whopper to get everyone's attention outside of his core audience.

And for the record this has nothing to do with my political affiliation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out for a radio personality ratings = job security = higher salary. Whether it be politics, sports, celebrity gossip... it doesn't matter.

that's just wrong. Completely.

Saul Good
01-16-2010, 03:14 PM
If the White House really wants your email, they can get it much more easily than some weblink-based charity trick. bottom line, just another paranoid persecution fantasy by Rush.
Terrific point. They would never even consider doing something like that.

http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=715&doc_id=171702&f_src=internetevolution_sitedefault

SNR
01-16-2010, 04:46 PM
It doesn't necessarily have to be because your a conservative that your dumb. Basically I was saying that Rush is taking nothing and making it into an issue and getting publicity = hundred dollar bills yall!

Im really sick of talking "party lines." We are all getting ****ed together. The only thing is, that in this ****ing, we get no release. I like to release. Divided we fall and that is what is happening. The American people have played right into the hands of the money bags and they are ROFL. Right now our situation would be the same or worse had JM/SP been in the office. Follow the money. From bird flu to swine flu, from the bush to obama, whod the banks pick?i kno rite ok ig et it but i still dont get the hundred dollar biills comment

The Mad Crapper
01-16-2010, 06:51 PM
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2010/01/why-haiti-is-a.html#more

TigerPig
01-16-2010, 10:41 PM
that's just wrong. Completely.

Right, because I'm sure he doesn't care at all what people think of him.

People like him, O'Reilly, Beck are all the same. They say, "whatever they want," as long as its in line with what the Republicans or Democrats are thinking. If he really said what he wanted and didn't give a damn what people thought, he'd be out of a job... If he was for lower taxes but also wanted more gun control or gay marriage, he'd be fired. If he promoted universal health care, but was also Pro-Life and wanted prayer in schools, he'd be fired. There's no audience for these sorts of people, so the companies who hire people like Rush would find someone who got better ratings so they could make more money. Cause its about making money.

This is why I have more respect for John Stewart than any of them. Cause he doesn't try and lie to us about being an entertainer. There's really no difference between John Stewart and Glenn Beck, they're both entertainers whose primary purpose is to generate a larger fan base for their employer, thereby generating more money and hopefully getting a cut from it next contract. The only two differences are which side of the spectrum they draw their crowd from, and how they engage their audience. Stewart uses humor, and if you really pay attention, you'll find Beck mostly uses fear.

I find it difficult to believe that SO MANY PEOPLE who put their heart and soul into the idea of capitalism can be so disillusioned when they find out people like this do stuff for the money, or televangelists are taking money on the side, etc. I'm not saying you're one of those people at all, but you know the type I'm talking about.

patteeu
01-17-2010, 08:07 AM
After many attempts to rationalize and change the subject, it looks like the consensus here is that the thread starter got it wrong (which is what usually happens when you rely on mediamatters). Rush Limbaugh did NOT tell people not to donate money to Haiti afterall.

MarcBulger
01-17-2010, 08:09 AM
I guess Rush can jump his "correct 99.5 % of the time: to 99.7%....

whatsmynameagain
01-17-2010, 08:12 AM
i kno rite ok ig et it but i still dont get the hundred dollar biills comment

him laughing all the way to the bank, $100 bills are the highest denomination in our currency. check the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector
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banyon
01-17-2010, 09:32 AM
Terrific point. They would never even consider doing something like that.

http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=715&doc_id=171702&f_src=internetevolution_sitedefault

They addressed that: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-10148844-46.html

and, it is also just Youtube and Google which can now track you through cookies through links to their site, not the WH. The Whitehouse knows the url's of everyone who visits their pages, but so does anyone who runs a website, so I don't think that's noteworthy.

The Mad Crapper
01-17-2010, 10:53 AM
After many attempts to rationalize and change the subject, it looks like the consensus here is that the thread starter got it wrong (which is what usually happens when you rely on mediamatters). Rush Limbaugh did NOT tell people not to donate money to Haiti afterall.

Stop interfering with a libtard show trial.

:)

PunkinDrublic
01-17-2010, 11:04 AM
God I can't wait for Rushs heart to fail.
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Saul Good
01-17-2010, 11:10 AM
God I can't wait for Rushs heart to fail.
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Hurry up and denounce this guy, banyon. He's a liberal, so I'm really going to hold my breath.

Saul Good
01-17-2010, 11:13 AM
They addressed that: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-10148844-46.html

and, it is also just Youtube and Google which can now track you through cookies through links to their site, not the WH. The Whitehouse knows the url's of everyone who visits their pages, but so does anyone who runs a website, so I don't think that's noteworthy.

They only addressed it after they got called out on it. My creepy neighbor promised to stop molesting kids, so that issue has been addressed. Nobody should discourage people from using him as a babysitter, right?

banyon
01-17-2010, 11:22 AM
They only addressed it after they got called out on it. My creepy neighbor promised to stop molesting kids, so that issue has been addressed. Nobody should discourage people from using him as a babysitter, right?

Well, no. But if your neighbor was doing it in your utility shed and then you found out about it and told him to stay out of your shed, people probably should not say you molested the child when you didn't, just because it was your shed.

Saul Good
01-17-2010, 11:23 AM
Well, no. But if your neighbor was doing it in your utility shed and then you found out about it and told him to stay out of your shed, people probably should say you molested the child when you didn't, just because it was your shed.

True, but they would be smart to keep their kids away from my shed in the future given the fact that I'm obviously not monitoring it closely.

The Mad Crapper
01-17-2010, 11:24 AM
God I can't wait for Rushs heart to fail.
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You're thuch an outlaw!

Saul Good
01-17-2010, 11:26 AM
You're thuch an outlaw!

Burn in Hell, Norma. It's okay to wish death on somebody, but you have been known to type posts in all capital letters. We can't have that.

The Mad Crapper
01-17-2010, 11:28 AM
Burn in Hell, Norma. It's okay to wish death on somebody, but you have been known to type posts in all capital letters. We can't have that.

"Punkin drublic"

That ith tho clever! Oooh, my nipples are erect!

PunkinDrublic
01-17-2010, 11:34 AM
"Punkin drublic"

That ith tho clever! Oooh, my nipples are erect!

Oh I get it your trying to imitate one of those homosexuals. Damn you are clever.
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The Mad Crapper
01-17-2010, 11:49 AM
Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, puts the quid pro quo in simple terms: “We spent a fortune to elect Barack Obama — $60.7 million to be exact.”

60 million bucks?!

Wow, that could have bought alot of condoms and moonpies for the Haitians!

ROFL

patteeu
01-17-2010, 12:01 PM
Burn in Hell, Norma. It's okay to wish death on somebody, but you have been known to type posts in all capital letters. We can't have that.

LMAO

SNR
01-17-2010, 01:31 PM
him laughing all the way to the bank, $100 bills are the highest denomination in our currency. check the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector
Posted via Mobile Devicesry but tht wuz a dum jok how could any1 laff at that

whatsmynameagain
01-17-2010, 03:27 PM
sry but tht wuz a dum jok how could any1 laff at that

it wasnt a joke
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