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wild1
01-17-2010, 08:13 PM
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/after_obama_ral.php

After Obama Rally, Dems Pin Blame On Bush
January 17, 2010 6:16 PM | Permalink | Comments (114) |

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By Felicia Sonmez


As audience members streamed out of Pres. Obama's rally on behalf of AG Martha Coakley (D) here tonight, the consensus was that the fault for Coakley's now-floundering MA SEN bid lies with one person -- George W. Bush.

"People are upset because there's so many problems," Rosemary Kverek, 70, a retired Charleston schoolteacher said as tonight's rally wrapped up. "But the problems came from the previous administration. So we're blaming poor Obama, who's working 36 hours a day ... to solve these problems that he inherited."

Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI), speaking with a gaggle of reporters after the event, said that while state Sen. Scott Brown (R) offers voters a quick fix, in reality, the problems created by "George Bush and his cronies" are not so easily solved.

"If you think there's magic out there and things can be turned around overnight, then you would vote for someone who could promise you that, like Scott Brown," Kennedy said. "If you don't, if you know that it takes eight years for George Bush and his cronies to put our country into this hole ... then you know we have a lot of digging to do, but some work needs to be done and this president's in the process of doing it and we need to get Marcia Coakley to help him to do that."

(Curiously, Kennedy mentioned Coakley repeatedly during his remarks to reporters, each time referring to her as "Marcia," not "Martha.")

More Kennedy: "One thing the Democrats have done wrong? We haven't kept the focus on this disaster on the Republicans who brought it upon us. We've tried too hard to do that right thing, and that's to fix it, as opposed to spend more of our time and energy pointing the finger at who got us [here] in the first place."

Blaming their problems on Bush does carry a risk for Dems, however -- with their sights so firmly focused on the past, Brown's campaign has managed to wrest the "change" mantle from them.

Meanwhile, even as Kennedy took on both Bush and Brown head-on, some attendees were more muted in their criticism of Brown.

"I mean, he is handsome," Christine DiPitro, 61, of Malden, said of Brown.

"He does appeal to the regular guy with his truck, but that's about all."

The Mad Crapper
01-18-2010, 06:21 AM
"He's handsome and he appeals to guys with trucks"

WTF?

Norman Einstein
01-18-2010, 06:33 AM
It's not hard to believe this story. Up to date the democrats seem to be incapable of taking responsibility for their own actions. Bush is an easy target, he made his share of mistakes while in office, but I don't believe that the mistakes he made will even come close to those made by obama - maybe even to date, let alone the further mistakes that are presenting themselves as we move towards the end of his 4 year term.

donkhater
01-18-2010, 08:10 AM
Further evidence that even the Democrats know that they didn't win the presidency on their ideas. It's was merely the vote against Bush that did it. Now that they actually have to show what their 'ideas' are, the public doesn't like it.

wild1
01-18-2010, 08:24 AM
Further evidence that even the Democrats know that they didn't win the presidency on their ideas. It's was merely the vote against Bush that did it. Now that they actually have to show what their 'ideas' are, the public doesn't like it.

When all else fails, as it has with Coakley, they see if they can get any more miles out of "blame Bush"

Chiefshrink
01-18-2010, 10:20 AM
Further evidence that even the Democrats know that they didn't win the presidency on their ideas. It's was merely the vote against Bush that did it. Now that they actually have to show what their 'ideas' are, the public doesn't like it.

Bottom line: The more the Dems resort to "Bush bashing" the more they show and prove their "INCOMPETENCE" and "PURPOSEFUL" at that!!!!!:thumb:

True Americans won't put up with this "political finger pointing" any longer because they are seeing through these "FRAUDS IN THE WH":thumb:

petegz28
01-18-2010, 10:21 AM
Bottom line: The more the Dems resort to "Bush bashing" the more they show and prove their "INCOMPETENCE" and "PURPOSEFUL" at that!!!!!:thumb:

True Americans won't put up with this "political finger pointing" any longer because they are seeing through these "FRAUDS IN THE WH":thumb:

She pulled it again at the MLK breakfast this morning.

MarcBulger
01-18-2010, 01:12 PM
Dems seem to forget the 90% of the Hosing crisis is THEIR fault.....Everyone should not have a home mortgage twice the amount that they can afford...

Saul Good
01-18-2010, 02:06 PM
Dems seem to forget the 90% of the Hosing crisis is THEIR fault.....Everyone should not have a home mortgage twice the amount that they can afford...

In defense of the Democrats, an awful lot of them got sweetheart loans and real estate deals, so they did their parts not to overextend themselves.

ROYC75
01-18-2010, 02:53 PM
The Dems are crying over spill milk ? All they are doing is spilling more of it. ( normal democrat ) Let's throw more money at it, it will turn around!

Been that way for years and will never change.

Velvet_Jones
01-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Dems seem to forget the 90% of the Hosing crisis is THEIR fault.....Everyone should not have a home mortgage twice the amount that they can afford...

Last time I had a hosing crisis I had to go to the doctor and get a shot.

KCTitus
01-22-2010, 05:15 PM
Despite the criticism, Obama is still popular on the Hill, and most Democrats acknowledge the enormity of the problems he faced when he took office.

“At this point, the challenge that they have had, and we have had, is that there were so many problems that were dumped in their lap when they took over,” said Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow. “They have been moving quickly on a hundred different points, so I think that’s their biggest challenge.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31839_Page2.html

I dont think this will ever end...sad.

HonestChieffan
01-22-2010, 05:19 PM
This bunch is making it far too easy.

Saul Good
01-22-2010, 05:23 PM
His first term is more than 25% done. This is his baby.

HonestChieffan
01-22-2010, 05:25 PM
warm up for the State of the Blame address

HonestChieffan
01-22-2010, 05:38 PM
Bad Review on todays performance...
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/

But perhaps Obama is in a "stump slump." Maybe it's me; maybe I can't see any Obama speech as a good one these days. But today in Ohio, it seemed like the president was way off his game. But I thought he was defensive, prickly, almost indignant that he's found himself in the tough spot that he's in.
He began by talking about how much he didn't like being in Washington, and apparently said something about the job being stifling. Sir, you spent two years trying to get this job.

One of his rallying cries as, "This is not about me!" Yes, Mr. President, but it's about the decisions you make and the policies you're trying to enact.

He made a reference to bankers who "click their heels and watch their stocks skyrocket." Was he going with a Dorothy in Oz metaphor? Do bankers click their heels?

"I won't stop fighting to bring back jobs here," worked as an applause line, but I wondered how it worked outside the venue. That insinuates he's been doing it for the first year, as unemployment has steadily increased. He's calling on Congress to "pass a jobs bill." I thought the stimulus was supposed to do that.

As Caleb Howe noticed, he said "I won't stop fighting to open up government" while breaking the promise about health care bill negotiations being on C-SPAN.

I realize he's using it to justify a new tax on banks, but I think "we want our money back" is a dangerous chant for a man who so steadily expands government spending.

UPDATE: A very out-of-rhythm speech was followed by some of the most obscure and unhelpful questions ever uttered at a town-hall meeting. I was left with a bit of sympathy for President Obama, as questioner after questioner asked about their own specific concerns, often way out of the president's duties, responsibilities, and realm of expertise: One guy was an inventor who wanted to give him a sales pitch, one woman lamented the impatience of the American people before complaining about a slow response from the state environmental agency over her toddler's lead poisoning, one guy wanted to read the president a poem; there was a woman who talked about the problem of finding students for her truck-driving school, an old lady who was upset that her Social Security didn't have a cost-of-living increase, and a guy who had the patent for some wind-turbine issue that he was in a fight with some company about. One poor soul raised his hand and just wanted to shake Obama's hand

KCTitus
01-24-2010, 05:22 PM
From James Carville, no less...

Democrats need to learn the blame game

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5d87e54e-0925-11df-ba88-00144feabdc0.html

patteeu
01-24-2010, 05:50 PM
Carville must have spent the entire year 9000 miles away (and under a rock) if he's serious when he says that Obama hurt himself by failing to blame Bush. WTF?

The Mad Crapper
01-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Obama is a fraud. He's a worthless piece of shit. Anybody defending him at this point is insane.

KCTitus
01-28-2010, 11:00 AM
From the Man himself...

...By the time I took office, we had a one-year deficit of over $1 trillion and projected deficits of $8 trillion over the next decade. Most of this was the result of not paying for two wars, two tax cuts and an expensive prescription drug program. On top of that, the effects of the recession put a $3 trillion hole in our budget. All this was before I walked in the door...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/28/us/politics/AP-US-Obama-State-of-the-Union-Text.html?pagewanted=5

FWIW, Im not going to quibble on the prescription drugs thing. That was horrible.

patteeu
01-28-2010, 11:31 AM
From the Man himself...

...By the time I took office, we had a one-year deficit of over $1 trillion and projected deficits of $8 trillion over the next decade. Most of this was the result of not paying for two wars, two tax cuts and an expensive prescription drug program. On top of that, the effects of the recession put a $3 trillion hole in our budget. All this was before I walked in the door...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/01/28/us/politics/AP-US-Obama-State-of-the-Union-Text.html?pagewanted=5

FWIW, Im not going to quibble on the prescription drugs thing. That was horrible.

Yeah, but what he doesn't admit is that the democrats wanted an even bigger, more expensive prescription drug program.

FishingRod
01-28-2010, 02:47 PM
It is old and it is tired. The Bush administration certainly tried to blame anything and everything they could on the Clinton administration, Clinton on Bush, Regan on Carter and so forth. If it weren't for that fat ass Taft we wouldn't have any of these problems. I guess this is just more hope and change.

patteeu
01-28-2010, 02:57 PM
It is old and it is tired. The Bush administration certainly tried to blame anything and everything they could on the Clinton administration, Clinton on Bush, Regan on Carter and so forth. If it weren't for that fat ass Taft we wouldn't have any of these problems. I guess this is just more hope and change.

This is actually not true. Bush took considerable criticism from the right wing for being reluctant to blame the prior administration for the most part. This was especially true in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Despite being pummeled (unfairly IMO) for failing to "connect the dots" leading up to the attack, he insisted on taking a forward-looking approach to the nation's challenges.

FishingRod
01-28-2010, 03:07 PM
I partially cave to your rebuttal and agree that Bush himself didn't do much of that but their certainly were a number of republicans wanted to point the finger at the past administration. Unfortunately I have some pesky work stuff so gotta run for a bit if I get back soon enough I would enjoy contrasting the two.

patteeu
01-28-2010, 04:02 PM
I partially cave to your rebuttal and agree that Bush himself didn't do much of that but their certainly were a number of republicans wanted to point the finger at the past administration. Unfortunately I have some pesky work stuff so gotta run for a bit if I get back soon enough I would enjoy contrasting the two.

I agree that many Republicans did it. I just wanted to make it clear that there was a distinct difference between the way Bush and Obama behaved in this regard.

KCTitus
01-30-2010, 11:38 AM
More from the Man himself...

...While acknowledging double-digit unemployment could not be tolerated, Obama also reminded the lawmakers of the high joblessness and huge budget deficit he had inherited from his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60S5JY20100129?type=politicsNews?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

mlyonsd
01-30-2010, 11:47 AM
More from the Man himself...

...While acknowledging double-digit unemployment could not be tolerated, Obama also reminded the lawmakers of the high joblessness and huge budget deficit he had inherited from his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60S5JY20100129?type=politicsNews?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

When did the dems take over both the house and senate again?

KCTitus
01-30-2010, 11:54 AM
When did the dems take over both the house and senate again?

2006, BUT Obama steadfastly opposed all deficit spending and bailouts during his long tenure in the senate.

The Mad Crapper
01-30-2010, 01:24 PM
2006, BUT Obama steadfastly opposed all deficit spending and bailouts during his long tenure in the senate.

ROFL

ChiefaRoo
01-30-2010, 02:10 PM
This is actually not true. Bush took considerable criticism from the right wing for being reluctant to blame the prior administration for the most part. This was especially true in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Despite being pummeled (unfairly IMO) for failing to "connect the dots" leading up to the attack, he insisted on taking a forward-looking approach to the nation's challenges.

That is exactly right. Bush was even asked if 911 was Clinton's fault in an interview I saw. He specifically did not lay the blame at Bill's feet.

RNR
01-30-2010, 03:00 PM
Obama is a fraud. He's a worthless piece of shit. Anybody defending him at this point is insane.

He is an embarrassment and his presidency will go down as a total failure. Jimmy Carter loves this guy as his debauchery of a term looks much better by comparison. Anyone as I have said before still defending this puppet for the well established left core can not be taken seriously~

mlyonsd
01-31-2010, 08:09 AM
2006, BUT Obama steadfastly opposed all deficit spending and bailouts during his long tenure in the senate.

When republicans hold the presidency and congress it's....the republicans fault.

When the republicans hold the presidency and the dems congress it's...the republican's fault.

When the dems hold the presidency and a super majority in congress...it's the republican's fault.

I hope this clears thins up for everyone and we can move on to the important questions of the day, like is it just me or is Michelle's butt getting bigger?

bevischief
01-31-2010, 05:44 PM
Bottom line: The more the Dems resort to "Bush bashing" the more they show and prove their "INCOMPETENCE" and "PURPOSEFUL" at that!!!!!:thumb:

True Americans won't put up with this "political finger pointing" any longer because they are seeing through these "FRAUDS IN THE WH":thumb:

This.

The Mad Crapper
02-06-2010, 06:16 PM
The jackass is at it again:

Faced with mounting national opposition to his party’s platform, the president reminded voters the real reason the trillion-dollar stimulus package still hasn’t reduced unemployment to 8 percent as promised: Bush did it, and it’ll take a lot of time to undo it.

“The country cannot return to the “dereliction of duty that helped deliver this recession,” Obama said. He added that the previous administration’s role in the economic meltdown was the “real outrage.”

Can you believe this guy?

Norman Einstein
02-06-2010, 06:58 PM
2006, BUT Obama steadfastly opposed all deficit spending and bailouts during his long tenure in the senate.

I wonder how many of the 145 days in office he had that he did any more than vote present?

KCTitus
02-17-2010, 06:44 AM
On the ever increasing debt...

"It keeps me awake at night, looking at all that red ink," said President Obama in Nashua, N.H., on Feb. 2. "Most of it is structural and we inherited it...."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-debt-budget-deficit-scary-forecast-taxpayers/story?id=9854459

patteeu
02-17-2010, 09:13 AM
On the ever increasing debt...

"It keeps me awake at night, looking at all that red ink," said President Obama in Nashua, N.H., on Feb. 2. "Most of it is structural and we inherited it...."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-debt-budget-deficit-scary-forecast-taxpayers/story?id=9854459

There's some truth to that. Most of the structural deficit (the out of control entitlements problem) is inherited from previous generations of democrats. Obama is horrible, but he's not the only socialism-loving democrat ruining the country by overloading us with suffocating levels of fiscal insanity.

mlyonsd
02-17-2010, 10:26 AM
There's some truth to that. Most of the structural deficit (the out of control entitlements problem) is inherited from previous generations of democrats. Obama is horrible, but he's not the only socialism-loving democrat ruining the country by overloading us with suffocating levels of fiscal insanity.

It's like discovering you have a garage fire and grabbing the first container of liquid you can reach, only to find out it was snowblower gas.

(or lawn mower gas for all those GW believers)

KCTitus
02-17-2010, 06:04 PM
There's some truth to that. Most of the structural deficit (the out of control entitlements problem) is inherited from previous generations of democrats. Obama is horrible, but he's not the only socialism-loving democrat ruining the country by overloading us with suffocating levels of fiscal insanity.

Right...there is some truth to the fact that he inherited huge debt and deficits, the only problem is to identify that as a problem, yet vote for 1T more and have a budget of +1.5T in increased deficit and debt pretty much says, "Im cool with this..."

When the shit hits the fan...am I still going to hear this was Bush's fault...does the pope crap in the woods?

The Mad Crapper
02-26-2010, 12:56 PM
More from the Man himself...

...While acknowledging double-digit unemployment could not be tolerated, Obama also reminded the lawmakers of the high joblessness and huge budget deficit he had inherited from his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush...

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60S5JY20100129?type=politicsNews?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Jackass says "We inherited the worst situation since the Great Depression".
He continues to blame Bush, but Bush didn't write the budget. Congress did-- the mammoth deficits of 2008 and 2009 came from budgets approved by a Congress run by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, and good ol' Sen. Barack Obama signed yay.

So how is it that this bastard has the nerve to keep saying it's not his fault?

wild1
02-26-2010, 02:29 PM
There was another "problems we inherited" sighting yesterday at the health care circus.

stevieray
02-26-2010, 02:36 PM
So how is it that this bastard has the nerve to keep saying it's not his fault?


...the same way he told McCain yesterday that the campaign is over, when it's all he's done since 18 months before the election.

The Mad Crapper
02-27-2010, 12:39 PM
...the same way he told McCain yesterday that the campaign is over, when it's all he's done since 18 months before the election.

http://thepeoplescube.com/images/Obamacare_Flag_Nazi_Logo_Troops.jpg

KCTitus
05-26-2010, 06:10 PM
It's been almost 90 days....and just like a dammed stream, it had to burst at some point.

Oh yes, the oil spill, is Bush's fault...err...because of the last 8 years...um starting a year and a half ago.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/05/breaking-chris-dodd-blames-bush-for-gulf-oil-spillactual-video.html

KCTitus
06-16-2010, 03:28 PM
Pool Report 6-15-10
Sam Youngman
White House correspondent
The Hill

"I'm a politician, and I'm proud of it." -- VPOTUS

VPOTUS addressed a small crowd of Democratic supporters and MOC at the end of the DCCC's issues conference at the Andrew W. Mellon Auditorium here in DC.

DCCC Chairman Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) introduced House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to the less than 100 gathered. CVH said "the vice president has been working hand in hand with us to make sure we maintain that majority to work with himself and the president."

Other MOC spotted: Dem Reps. Allyson Schwartz (Pa.), Silvestre Reyes (Texas), Jim Clyburn (S.C.), Bruce Braley (Iowa), Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), Steve Israel (N.Y.), Nita Lowey (N.Y.), Nick Lampson (Texas) and Norm Dicks (Wash.). Apologies if someone was missed.

Pelosi introduced VPOTUS as "the new sheriff in town." Said she thinks of him as "the All-American boy," before repeating the word "boy" followed by a long, awkward pause.

Pelosi said the Obama administration has already saved or created 2.8 million jobs. Said that number will be 3.7 million by end of year. Said the admin has "already created more jobs than in the eight years of the Bush administration."

VPOTUS came in with his usual flourish of self-deprecating jokes. Said he has been to campaign in 40 House races -- "They were all winning when I go there, and I made Chris's job a lot harder."

VPOTUS then alternated between listing admin's accomplishments and lauding Pelosi, one of the best legislators he has ever seen.

Went on at length about the "God-awful mess" he and POTUS inherited. Said he used to call Bush "Houdini" for turning surpluses into deficits.

After quite a bit of that, VPOTUS said: "We couldn't dwell on the past. That's not how we got elected. The American people don't want to hear about what we inherited and how tough it is."

VPOTUS praised House Dems for their "gumption and courage," making "votes that are quite frankly hard to explain" to a nation of more than 300 million.

Pledged that if politicians will do what's in the country's best interest, America's best days are ahead.

"That's not Ronald Regan sunshine in America. That's literally, literally true."

VPOTUS returned to talking about how bad the economy was when they took office, saying one of the "first serious discussions Barack and I sat in on" in Chicago, they were discussing whether POTUS would have to declare a bank holiday after he was sworn in.

Back to Pelosi praise, saying healthcare was dead "but like the Lord had Lazarus rise up and pick up his bed..."

Credited Pelosi for passing stimulus and healthcare, drew some chuckles on the latter when saying "that healthcare deal is every bit as big a deal as I said it was."

When speaking of the House Dems, VPOTUS said "they all love, admire and respect Nancy Pelosi."

Talked about the need to continue to make progress to ensure that the U.S. is top dog over China and India.

"You might call that chauvenism. I call it a necessary reality."

Talked about banks paying back their loans and GM starting to do the same.

Admonished the crowd, "if all of you in this room would drive American cars, and only American cars, they could pay back that loan a lot quicker."

On Iraq, "Politics has broken out."

On Iran, "We reached out our hand. It got slapped back."

On the Gulf, VPOTUS wouldn't step on POTUS's Oval address, but he did say one WH official joked "it would be nice if we had to clean up a disaster we made."

Said that Republicans "success rests in our failure," and as they are "egged on by tea partiers," compromise has become a "dirty word" and working with POTUS and Pelosi has become a "dirty deed."

Pledged Democratic wins in November: "To paraphrase Samuel Clemens, the reports of our demise are premature."