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Taco John
01-18-2010, 10:54 PM
I have a hard time believing that when the time finally came for a state to step up and save America from falling off the ugly precipice of socialism, that it was the Massachussettians who stepped up to the plate and saved the nation.

I suppose it hasn't happened yet, but I've got that feeling in my bones like before Elway won the Superbowl. Like it's a new day in America and there is HOPE!

Guru
01-19-2010, 01:20 AM
It would be a hell of a thing for that particular state to be the one to bail out America.

Taco John
01-19-2010, 01:57 AM
It would be a hell of a thing for that particular state to be the one to bail out America.

I was totally mind blown thinking about it driving home tonight from dinner. I can't imagine being a democrat congressman right now, and watching Massachusetteians turning over "Teddy Kennedy's seat" (which it was) to a fresh faced Republican that came from out of nowhere. Can you imagine how their guts must feel watching this?

Guru
01-19-2010, 03:15 AM
I certainly hope the democrat loses that race so we can find out.

Reaper16
01-19-2010, 06:30 AM
Seeing as how you just (indirectly but still) related "saving America from socialism" with John Elway, I think I can get 100% behind the socialist platform now.

InChiefsHell
01-19-2010, 06:32 AM
I have a hard time believing that when the time finally came for a state to step up and save America from falling off the ugly precipice of socialism, that it was the Massachussettians who stepped up to the plate and saved the nation.

I suppose it hasn't happened yet, but I've got that feeling in my bones like before Elway won the Superbowl. Like it's a new day in America and there is HOPE!

As long as you are NOT going to "Go ahead and call it"...like when you said Plumber was going to take y'all to the SB...

...FWIW, I hope the dems lose in Massachusetts.

Reaper16
01-19-2010, 06:34 AM
As long as you are NOT going to "Go ahead and call it"...like when you said Plumber was going to take y'all to the SB...


QUENTIN GRIFFEN IZ TEH NEXT BARRY SANDERS!

Otter
01-19-2010, 07:26 AM
I don't label myself as democrat or republican but I'm hoping for GOP to come through on this simply for the message it will send.

jiveturkey
01-19-2010, 07:36 AM
I'm hoping for a GOP win as well. The stupidity in congress has reached an all time high.

It feels as if the GOP will be taking a great deal of seats later this year as well. I just hope that they don't think it's a mandate for their stupid social agenda.

Bwana
01-19-2010, 07:49 AM
The fact that this race is even close, speaks volumes. People are getting tired of all the "Hope and Change."

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 07:49 AM
I have a hard time believing that when the time finally came for a state to step up and save America from falling off the ugly precipice of socialism, that it was the Massachussettians who stepped up to the plate and saved the nation.

I suppose it hasn't happened yet, but I've got that feeling in my bones like before Elway won the Superbowl. Like it's a new day in America and there is HOPE!

Keep your fingers crossed.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 07:50 AM
I'm hoping for a GOP win as well. The stupidity in congress has reached an all time high.

It feels as if the GOP will be taking a great deal of seats later this year as well. I just hope that they don't think it's a mandate for their stupid social agenda.

Priority number one is derailing B.O. We'll sort the rest out later.

Bwana
01-19-2010, 08:23 AM
The moon bats over at MSNBC are getting desperate. :)

http://www.thefoxnation.com/massachusetts-senate-race/2010/01/19/nbc-news-brown-homophobic-racist-teabagging-misogynist

Mile High Mania
01-19-2010, 08:25 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/polls_open_in_s_1.html

Republican Scott Brown has surged more than 30 points in the polls in his bid to upset the one-time frontrunner, Democrat Martha Coakley, for a seat her party has held for generations.

Mile High Mania
01-19-2010, 08:26 AM
The moon bats over at MSNBC are getting desperate. :)

http://www.thefoxnation.com/massachusetts-senate-race/2010/01/19/nbc-news-brown-homophobic-racist-teabagging-misogynist

DAMN

thecoffeeguy
01-19-2010, 08:26 AM
Heard that Brown is up by 5+ points.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:30 AM
Jan. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Democrats face the possibility of losing their most iconic U.S. Senate seat, held for almost 47 years by the late Edward Kennedy, in a Massachusetts election today that could also cost them their 60-vote Senate supermajority needed to help pass a health-care overhaul.

In just more than a week, Democrat Martha Coakley, the state attorney general once considered a sure bet for the Senate, has watched her lead evaporate. Some polls show her trailing state Senator Scott Brown, who was more than 30 points behind last November.

Democrats are mobilized by the prospect of conceding a Senate seat in a state where they control all 10 House seats. President Barack Obama stumped for Coakley in a trip to Boston Sunday. He also cut a new television ad, while his grassroots organizing group says it placed 93,000 calls across the state on Jan. 16 alone.

“In some ways, Republicans have already won,” said Jennifer Duffy, the Senate analyst for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report in Washington. “Nobody ever imagined a special election in Massachusetts for Ted Kennedy’s seat would ever get remotely competitive.”

Research “strongly suggests” that Brown, 50, will defeat Coakley, 56, the Washington-based nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report said. That outcome or even a narrow Coakley win could discourage House or Senate Democrats in competitive districts and states from running in this November’s elections amid a sagging economy and declining poll numbers for Obama.

Supermajority at Stake

At stake is the presidential party’s 60-vote majority that helps Democrats avoid Republican attempts to kill legislation, including Obama’s signature issue, a health-care bill before Congress that many Democrats also consider a tribute to Kennedy’s decades of work to expand medical coverage.

Still, “the key is what’s the turnout of independents,” who aren’t as likely as Democrats or Republicans to vote, said Jeffrey Berry, a political science professor at Tufts University in Medford, Massachusetts. “A big turnout of independents probably favors Brown.”

While Democrats outnumber Republicans 3-to-1 in the state, 51 percent of voters aren’t registered with a party.

Obama warned that much of his agenda in Congress, specifically his health-care overhaul and proposed fee on big banks, hinges on retaining Kennedy’s former seat.

“We’ve begun to deliver on the change you voted for,” Obama told a crowd of about 1,500 people Jan. 17 at Northeastern University in Boston.

Race Tightening

Polls show the race tightening in the closing days of the campaign. One poll by Boston’s Suffolk University gave Brown a 4-percentage-point lead. Another poll by Survey USA, conducted Jan. 15-17, gave Brown a 7-point advantage. An InsiderAdvantage poll conducted Jan. 17 for Politico showed Brown leading by 9 percentage points.

The polls all have a margin of error of less than 5 percentage points.

Coakley had led by 31 points in a Suffolk poll last November.

Brown has cast himself as a populist and political outsider in a state with abuse-of-power scandals involving Democratic lawmakers including a former speaker of the House, Salvatore DiMasi, who was indicted on federal corruption charges.

The last Republican senator from Massachusetts was Edward Brooke, who served two terms before being defeated in 1978.

While Coakley campaigned with Obama and former President Bill Clinton, Brown crisscrossed the state in a pickup truck and recruited celebrities with blue-collar appeal. Joining him yesterday were Red Sox pitching legend Curt Schilling and John Ratzenberger, an actor who played the mail carrier on the “Cheers” television comedy.

‘Political Machine’

“I’m running in the name of every independent-thinking voter to take on the political machine and their candidate,” Brown says in a recent Web advertisement.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said Jan. 17 that the Massachusetts race shows the extent of popular opposition to Obama’s health-care proposal.

Some analysts say local issues such as taxes loom larger.

“People are just really angry” about the economy, tax increases and corruption, said Fred Bayles, director of Boston University’s Statehouse Program. “Coakley should have been aware of what the situation was.”

Democrats took aim at Brown’s opposition to Obama’s plan to tax the largest financial firms, including Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America Corp., to recoup losses from companies that got federal aid from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program.

Focus on Banks

“Bankers don’t need another vote in the United States Senate -- they’ve got plenty,” Obama said in Boston, signaling a broader political strategy to tie Republicans in this year’s races to Wall Street greed.

Brown has said banks will pass on the cost of Obama’s proposed tax to consumers in the form of higher fees.

Outside groups poured money into the race. The Tea Party Express, which opposes Obama’s health-care plan, said it has spent more than $300,000 supporting Brown. The National Rifle Association put almost $20,000 behind Brown.

Service Employees International Union groups reported on Jan. 13 spending almost $740,000 to back Coakley.

“The whole nation’s watching what’s happening in Massachusetts,” Coakley told supporters in Boston on Jan. 15.

The Massachusetts winner will replace Paul Kirk, a former Democratic National Committee chairman appointed to the Senate after Kennedy died last August at age 77. Kirk didn’t run to serve the remaining three years of Kennedy’s term.

To contact the reporters on this story: Heidi Przybyla in Washington at hhprzybyla@bloomberg.net;


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=akSDnaiIh6Qc

beer bacon
01-19-2010, 08:31 AM
Yes, just think about all the ways socialism has taken over our country since Obama became President:

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:32 AM
Yes, just think about all the ways socialism has taken over our country since Obama became President:

And the American people are going to keep it that way.

Brock
01-19-2010, 08:32 AM
It's fitting that when Kennedy finally croaked, people up there realized they had only been voting for him out of habit.

memyselfI
01-19-2010, 08:37 AM
Hopefully they will save us from Lite and the loons who created him.

beer bacon
01-19-2010, 08:37 AM
1. Obama elected President
2. ....
3. SOCIALISM!!! Oh no!!

Taco John
01-19-2010, 08:38 AM
Seeing as how you just (indirectly but still) related "saving America from socialism" with John Elway, I think I can get 100% behind the socialist platform now.

Not like anyone was confused about where you were on that in the first place...

wild1
01-19-2010, 08:38 AM
"In Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees."


I think the level of desperation and the shrill meter is at an all-time high.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:39 AM
1. Obama elected President
2. ....
3. SOCIALISM!!! Oh no!!

Meltdown in frozen foods!

ROFL

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:39 AM
I think the level of desperation and the shrill meter is at an all-time high.

What happened to hope and change?

:doh!:

wild1
01-19-2010, 08:40 AM
What happened to hope and change?

:doh!:

The thing is, Brown could be any one of those things and if he were a liberal, Olbermann and the rest of the left would make excuses for him all day and all night.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:41 AM
The thing is, Brown could be any one of those things and if he were a liberal, Olbermann and the rest of the left would make excuses for him all day and all night.

ie Al Franken.

beer bacon
01-19-2010, 08:45 AM
Meltdown in frozen foods!

ROFL

Just so you know, I could give two shits about the Democrats losing the super majority since they are just a bunch of corporate whores that won't ever do anything with it. It is just interesting to see a bunch of dumbshits convince themselves that a center right President is the anti-christ harbinger of socialism.

If Obama was a Republican most Republicans would have anointed him as the next Reagen. Democrats excuse stuff like our nation's continued abuse of civil rights because their is a Democrat in the White House now, and Republicans are frothing at the mouth that it isn't their guy doing the war-mongering and budget exploding right now. The idiocy over Obama leading the rescue charge in Haiti is just wonderfully entertaining.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:46 AM
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The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 08:54 AM
THIS IS THE DAY!
THIS IS THE DAY!
THIS IS THE DAY THAT THE LORD HAS MADE!
LET'S BE GLAD AND REJOICE IN IT!

stevieray
01-19-2010, 09:00 AM
, I think I can get 100% behind the socialist platform now.

...it's good to see the socialists finally claiming their status.

Bwana
01-19-2010, 09:08 AM
...it's good to see the socialists finally claiming their status.

It's nice to see he has the nuts to admit it. :doh!:

bluehawkdoc
01-19-2010, 09:22 AM
If Brown wins, Chris Matthews and his MSNBC cronies will replace the "tingle" down their leg with urine.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 09:30 AM
If Brown wins, Chris Matthews and his MSNBC cronies will replace the "tingle" down their leg with urine.

Those cheerleading lying bastards should be tarred and feathered for the fraud that they perpetrated on the American people.

Warrior5
01-19-2010, 09:37 AM
If Brown wins, Chris Matthews and his MSNBC cronies will replace the "tingle" down their leg with urine.

ROFL

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 09:46 AM
I have a hard time believing that when the time finally came for a state to step up and save America from falling off the ugly precipice of socialism, that it was the Massachussettians who stepped up to the plate and saved the nation.

I suppose it hasn't happened yet, but I've got that feeling in my bones like before Elway won the Superbowl. Like it's a new day in America and there is HOPE!
It's where the original Tea Party took place. The once names "Cradle of Liberty!" They must still have a liberty streak in them.

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 09:48 AM
If Brown wins, Chris Matthews and his MSNBC cronies will replace the "tingle" down their leg with urine.

Matthews finally came out and admitted he was a socialist. The first step to recovery is admitting it. Now, if only those of like mind in this forum would admit it too. That is the one's who refuse to admit it.

Royal Fanatic
01-19-2010, 10:10 AM
Just so you know, I could give two shits about the Democrats losing the super majority since they are just a bunch of corporate whores that won't ever do anything with it. It is just interesting to see a bunch of dumbshits convince themselves that a center right President is the anti-christ harbinger of socialism.
Did you just seriously say that Obama is a "center right" President? What the fuck scale are you using?

wild1
01-19-2010, 10:18 AM
Did you just seriously say that Obama is a "center right" President? What the **** scale are you using?

Brezhnev would even be laughing at that assessment.

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 10:24 AM
Don't get over confident Republicans...it ain't over yet. Now we may have to deal with fraud and have the election tied up in the courts to pass HC while that sorts out.

Instead, you should be humble and be praying right now. It ain't over 'til it's over.
Pride comes before a fall.

thecoffeeguy
01-19-2010, 10:37 AM
anyone know where the numbers are at right now?

ClevelandBronco
01-19-2010, 10:39 AM
Just so you know, I could give two shits about the Democrats losing the super majority since they are just a bunch of corporate whores that won't ever do anything with it. It is just interesting to see a bunch of dumbshits convince themselves that a center right President is the anti-christ harbinger of socialism.

If Obama was a Republican most Republicans would have anointed him as the next Reagen. Democrats excuse stuff like our nation's continued abuse of civil rights because their is a Democrat in the White House now, and Republicans are frothing at the mouth that it isn't their guy doing the war-mongering and budget exploding right now. The idiocy over Obama leading the rescue charge in Haiti is just wonderfully entertaining.

A center right president? I think you just admitted much more about your own position than you did about his.

RJ
01-19-2010, 10:55 AM
Massachussettians?

Is that a real word?

I hope the Republican wins and it serves as a bucket of cold water in the face of Congress. I'm not counting on it, but I'm hoping for it.

oldandslow
01-19-2010, 10:58 AM
I place him at center right as well...

of course everyone should know where I live.

mlyonsd
01-19-2010, 11:05 AM
I place him at center right as well...

of course everyone should know where I live.

Center right from who, Pelosi?

oldandslow
01-19-2010, 11:10 AM
All Obama has done is subsidize companies...from cars and banks to insurance.

He has not done one single thing domestically other than that.

On the foreign policy front he has sent more troops and money to a never ending war.

Those are not progressive policies.

Anyway not by my definition.

KC native
01-19-2010, 11:19 AM
All Obama has done is subsidize companies...from cars and banks to insurance.

He has not done one single thing domestically other than that.

On the foreign policy front he has sent more troops and money to a never ending war.

Those are not progressive policies.

Anyway not by my definition.

Remember you are answering the CP RW echo chamber here. The RW's here are definitely far from the mainstream.

Royal Fanatic
01-19-2010, 11:22 AM
All Obama has done is subsidize companies...from cars and banks to insurance.

He has not done one single thing domestically other than that.

On the foreign policy front he has sent more troops and money to a never ending war.

Those are not progressive policies.

Anyway not by my definition.
Maybe the answer is that Obama is doing such a terrible job that NOBODY wants to claim him.

oldandslow
01-19-2010, 11:23 AM
Maybe the answer is that Obama is doing such a terrible job that NOBODY wants to claim him.

I won't argue with that.

Baby Lee
01-19-2010, 11:36 AM
What amazes me is when a race is close enough that a Dem could win, the talking heads yammer incessantly about how the cursed Reps are destroying the country by cheating in the vote count. But when it's clear that the Rep could win fair and square, they yammer about how sad it is that the Dems aren't cheating enough, because it's a fight you win by any means necessary.

Reaper16
01-19-2010, 02:19 PM
...it's good to see the socialists finally claiming their status.

It's nice to see he has the nuts to admit it. :doh!:
Its either be socialist or be a Broncos fan. I know which side of that divide I want to be on.

Chocolate Hog
01-19-2010, 02:42 PM
This Brown guy seems like a pretty big moron.

Bwana
01-19-2010, 02:45 PM
This Brown guy seems like a pretty big moron.

Really? How so?

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 02:49 PM
I just noticed Taco spelled it Massachussettes.

Ha ha ha!

Chocolate Hog
01-19-2010, 02:50 PM
Really? How so?

Pro-choice guy who posed nude in a magazine in the 80's. I mean it's cool if he defeats health care but looking at his record he doesn't seem like a conservative.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 02:51 PM
Center right from who, Pelosi?

ROFL

That's another BS narrative the moonbats have tried to create---

Pelosi and B.O. are cut from the same dirty dishrag.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 02:52 PM
Pro-choice guy who posed nude in a magazine in the 80's. I mean it's cool if he defeats health care but looking at his record he doesn't seem like a conservative.

Nobody is saying this guy is Barry Goldwater, but in Massachussetts he's too the right of Attilla the Hun.

Chocolate Hog
01-19-2010, 02:53 PM
Nobody is saying this guy is Barry Goldwater, but in Massachussetts he's too the right of Attilla the Hun.

That's true. Hopefully he isn't another Rudy Guiliani cock bag.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 02:58 PM
That's true. Hopefully he isn't another Rudy Guiliani cock bag.

If he stops cap and trade and nationalized healthcare then it's all good.

STOP THE BLEEDING. Businesses won't start hiring again until those two priorities of the leftists are deep sixed.

bluehawkdoc
01-19-2010, 03:00 PM
Anyone know of a good non-partisan website to watch real-time poll results trickle in? Other than CP, of course.:)

Guru
01-19-2010, 03:02 PM
The moon bats over at MSNBC are getting desperate. :)

http://www.thefoxnation.com/massachusetts-senate-race/2010/01/19/nbc-news-brown-homophobic-racist-teabagging-misogynistWhy they allow that idiot on the air baffles me.

The Mad Crapper
01-19-2010, 03:06 PM
Why they allow that idiot on the air baffles me.

The NFL pays him.

:mad:

Taco John
01-19-2010, 07:00 PM
I wonder if there is a bath tub big enough for the slit wrists at Huffington Post?

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 07:01 PM
Pro-choice guy who posed nude in a magazine in the 80's. I mean it's cool if he defeats health care but looking at his record he doesn't seem like a conservative.

And he is gorgeeeeeeeooous in those. I bet he locks up the women's vote!

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 07:01 PM
I wonder if there is a bath tub big enough for the slit wrists at Huffington Post?

What about here? :) Or should I say he'ah in my accent.

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 07:02 PM
That's true. Hopefully he isn't another Rudy Guiliani cock bag.

ROFL

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 07:03 PM
If he stops cap and trade and nationalized healthcare then it's all good.

STOP THE BLEEDING. Businesses won't start hiring again until those two priorities of the leftists are deep sixed.

Exactly!

BucEyedPea
01-19-2010, 07:03 PM
Did you just seriously say that Obama is a "center right" President? What the **** scale are you using?

That just means he very far left. It's called perspective....how you view it from where one sits.

Amnorix
01-19-2010, 07:26 PM
Apparently it has -- not that health care reform is "socialism" per se of course.

Donger
01-19-2010, 07:34 PM
Apparently it has -- not that health care reform is "socialism" per se of course.

So, who'd you vote for, Amno?

Amnorix
01-19-2010, 07:43 PM
So, who'd you vote for, Amno?

On train to work at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 8:30. Missed it. Need to get back to work shortly. Rough month...

I would have voted for Brown, however. Pathetic to miss the first state-wide election that was truly contested in a very long time, but needs must when the devil drives.

Lzen
01-19-2010, 10:03 PM
Did you just seriously say that Obama is a "center right" President? What the fuck really kick ass weed are you smoking?

FYP

KCWolfman
01-20-2010, 02:59 AM
Pro-choice guy who posed nude in a magazine in the 80's. I mean it's cool if he defeats health care but looking at his record he doesn't seem like a conservative.

Good point. So what does that say about the liberals who are painting him to the right of Rush Limbaugh, such as the POTUS and other DEMS stumping against him? Are they:

A. More deluded than those on this board?

B. Out of touch with what the American people actually want?

C. Poignant liars who want us to believe their BS so they can control this nation without interference from those who elect them?

D. All of the above?

I am going with D.

Norman Einstein
01-20-2010, 04:49 AM
I was totally mind blown thinking about it driving home tonight from dinner. I can't imagine being a democrat congressman right now, and watching Massachusetteians turning over "Teddy Kennedy's seat" (which it was) to a fresh faced Republican that came from out of nowhere. Can you imagine how their guts must feel watching this?

The people that voted for the democrat probably feel like they have been kicked in the gut. Those that voted for Brown probably have a warm fuzzy feeling that they may have saved America.

At the very least the vote in Mass. is most likely the first step to get the mix in DC back to a level playing field.

Otter
01-20-2010, 05:36 AM
A small but significant victory.

Now let's stop fighting over whether someone has an (R), (D), or (I) in front of their name and start picking the best man for the job. There is good and bad players on each side.

Educate yourself by researching the background on elected officials and don't let the same media who is owned by these scumbags decide who you vote for next time around. If voters would have done this in the first place we wouldn't be in this cluster ****.

Keep it rolling. Get these ****ing no good, bought and paid for career politicians out of office and keep the turnover going until they get the message.

Power to the people. No Amnesty for illegals, keep your grubby hands off of health care and our civil rights. Make them adhere to The Constitution of the United States like they were intended.

Thank You Massachusetts!

BucEyedPea
01-20-2010, 05:51 AM
A small but significant victory.
Yes it is small. Afterall, this guy did vote for RomneyCare in Mass, which has driven premiums up and increased taxes. The pressure still has to be kept on.

A victory in that is sends a message. Not just on HC but the corruption and lack of transparency in govt.

Inspector
01-20-2010, 08:34 AM
In the war of Americans vs. Socialists...

America wins this battle.

Score one for the good guys! Hooray for the U.S.A....Americans are going to take their country back! This is a great day!

The Mad Crapper
01-20-2010, 08:37 AM
In the war of Americans vs. Socialists...

America wins this battle.

Score one for the good guys! Hooray for the U.S.A....Americans are going to take their country back! This is a great day!

Hallelujah!

http://www.iaza.com/work/100121C/ObamaDeficit9609033189-iaza.jpg